Linux-Misc Digest #38, Volume #28 Tue, 5 Jun 01 16:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Please help me get WIN98 back!! ("Somphong K")
Re: Replicating Linux computers (Michael Heiming)
Re: Replicating Linux computers (Steve Lamb)
Re: Making Linux partition bigger (Grant Edwards)
Re: Replicating Linux computers ("Peter T. Breuer")
HELP Looking for this board ("Howard D. Brenner")
Lotus Domino at startup and on different console ("Martin Adler")
Re: root password problem (Steve)
Laptop umruesten (Dennis)
Re: Lotus Domino at startup and on different console (Grant Edwards)
Re: linux freezin (Whizguru)
Re: Replicating Linux computers (Michael Heiming)
Re: seeking Windows & Linux compatible email client ("Jay")
Re: RH6.2 crashes, then /var/log directory lost, then .... ("Jay")
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From: "Somphong K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Please help me get WIN98 back!!
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:23:50 -0400
When I mentioned I could not boot from Wind98 recover diskette,
I meant the PC read the floppy for a few seconds, then turn to
read the C drive (/dev/hda) over and over. I could see the disk
access indicator lit on and off. The only way to get out was to
do ctrl-alt-del :-) It happened the same way with Win98 CD.
I reshuffled boot device sequence a few times (floppy/HD/CDROM)
but to no avail.
Please find herewith the fdisk diskplay of both drives. I would
really appreciate some advice how to fix the problem.
Rgds somphong
[root@localhost /etc]# fdisk /dev/hda
The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 3736.
There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
and could in certain setups cause problems with:
1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
(e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
Command (m for help): p
Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3736 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 * 1 2040 16386268+ b Win95 FAT32
Command (m for help): v
27246302 unallocated secotrs
Command (m for help): x
Expert command (m for help): p
Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3736 cylinders
Nr AF Hd Sec Cyl Hd Sec Cyl Start Size ID
1 80 1 1 0 254 63 1023 63 32772537 0b
2 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00
3 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00
4 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00
Expert command (m for help):
======================================================
[root@localhost /etc]# fdisk /dev/hdb
The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 2100.
There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
and could in certain setups cause problems with:
1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
(e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
Command (m for help): p
Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 2100 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdb1 * 1 3 24066 83 Linux
/dev/hdb2 4 2100 16844152+ 5 Extended
/dev/hdb5 4 1023 8193118+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdb6 1024 1661 5124703+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdb7 1662 1820 1277136 83 Linux
/dev/hdb8 1821 1886 530113+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdb9 1887 1952 530113+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdb10 1953 2018 530113+ 82 Linux swap
/dev/hdb11 2019 2084 530113+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdb12 2085 2100 128488+ 83 Linux
Command (m for help): v
555 unallocated secotrs
Command (m for help): x
Expert command (m for help): p
Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 2100 cylinders
Nr AF Hd Sec Cyl Hd Sec Cyl Start Size ID
1 80 1 1 0 254 63 2 63 48132 83
2 00 0 1 3 254 63 1023 48195 33688305 05
3 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00
4 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00
5 00 1 1 3 254 63 1022 63 16386237 83
6 00 1 1 1023 254 63 1023 63 10249407 83
7 00 1 1 1023 254 63 1023 63 2554272 83
8 00 1 1 1023 254 63 1023 63 1060227 83
9 00 1 1 1023 254 63 1023 63 1060227 83
10 00 1 1 1023 254 63 1023 63 1060227 82
11 00 1 1 1023 254 63 1023 63 1060227 83
12 00 1 1 1023 254 63 1023 63 256977 83
Expert command (m for help):
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hda c/h/s = 3736/255/63
hdb c/h/s = 2100/255/63
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"Somphong K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9f0sna$a37$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> During this Memorial weekend, I installed Redhat 7.1 (Kernel 2.4.2-2)
> on my PC at home. Win98 is on IDE drive/A and Rh7.1 completely on IDE
> drive/B. I did not realize at the time that part of linux, such as /boot
> partition, had to be on drive/A to use LILO.
>
> During graphic installation,I was prompted where to put LILO i.e. in MBR
> or linux drive's boot partition. Unfortunately I decided to avoid fooling
> with MBR and opted for the later.
>
> The lilo installation ended up with failure. Everything else went fine.
> I created boot diskette. I then realized I was no longer able to boot
> Win98. Everybody in my household jumped on me!! My wife wanted to search
> webs about her stock investment, my kid wanted to play starcraft with his
> folks, ....
>
> I hoped to restore MBR by executing 'fdisk /MBR' under MSDOS but I was
> surprised to learn that all my Windows rescue and MSDOS diskettes failed
> to even boot. PC tried to boot from the floppies but hang after reading/
> loading a few blocks.
>
> When I mounted on to /dev/hda1, I could see that all Win98 directories
> and files were still intact. I just do not know why drive/A broke when I
> tried my best < which was obviously not good enough :-( > not to disturb
> its MBR.
>
> I would appreciate any advice that can pull me out of this mess.
>
> 1) What corruptions on drive/A and how to restore it??
>
> 2) I configured lilo to boot either linux and win98 but the later never
> came up - it hang just like when I booted off diskettes. Could you
> offer me a copy of /etc/lilo.conf to compare. My copy is at home.
>
> 3) I configured printer OK but not my sound card (Turtle Beach Montogo II
> and Altec Lansing 495). sndconfig autoprobe concluded it was Altec
> ADA305 and mentioned it is not supported by Linux yet. I tried without
> probe but there were only 2 Turtle Beach choices and my Montego II was
> not ont the list. I tried both and they all ended up in errors.
>
> Does it mean I'm out of luck as far as sound card is concerned?
>
> 4) Does Linux support HP 6200C scanner?? If affirmative, how?
>
> 5) I have MSN connection which I usually use their 'MSN Internet Access'
> tool to connect. Could and how I connect to MSN from Linux??
>
> Please asnwer to my e-mail address. Thanks for kind assistance.
>
> Rgds somphong
>
>
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Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 20:41:33 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Replicating Linux computers
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> Christopher Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Uri Van Creveld wrote:
> >> I have 50 identical PC's on which I want to run Linux.
> >> I don't want to run the installation on each one,
> >> And I'm not so keen on using dd because it means opening them all up etc.
>
> dd if=/dev/hda1 bs=102400 | ssh other_machine dd of=/dev/hda1 bs=102400
>
> >> What is the best way to do it? Is ghost good for it? something else?
>
> or
>
> tar cvlpfC - /mnt/hda1 . | ssh other_machine tar xvlpfC - /mnt/hda1
You need some kind of rescue system CD/disk to boot, it has to contain
a module for your NIC and sshd. On the other hand, 50 workstations with
Linux? I would seriously take a look at www.ltsp.org, makes
administration
& backup a lot easier...
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Subject: Re: Replicating Linux computers
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 18:43:27 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 20:41:33 +0200, Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>You need some kind of rescue system CD/disk to boot, it has to contain
>a module for your NIC and sshd.
The Linuxcare business card is great for this. :)
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Making Linux partition bigger
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 18:49:06 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Frank McCormick wrote:
>The question is can I shrink the W95 partition and enlarge the
>Linux partition without problems.
Yes.
>Won't the bigger portion of the ex2 partition have no file
>system
You have to use a parititioning program (e.g. Partition Magic
or Gnu parted) that knows how to deal with that issue by
"growing" and "shrinking" the filesystems along with the
partitions.
>( well it'll have a FAT file system as the drive was formatted
>FAT32 originally ). What will Linux say about this ?
Linux will be perfectly happy as long as the filesystem is
"grown" along with the partition.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! You can't hurt
at me!! I have an ASSUMABLE
visi.com MORTGAGE!!
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Replicating Linux computers
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 20:44:23 +0200
Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>>
>> Christopher Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Uri Van Creveld wrote:
>> >> I have 50 identical PC's on which I want to run Linux.
>> >> I don't want to run the installation on each one,
>> >> And I'm not so keen on using dd because it means opening them all up etc.
>>
>> dd if=/dev/hda1 bs=102400 | ssh other_machine dd of=/dev/hda1 bs=102400
>>
>> >> What is the best way to do it? Is ghost good for it? something else?
>>
>> or
>>
>> tar cvlpfC - /mnt/hda1 . | ssh other_machine tar xvlpfC - /mnt/hda1
> You need some kind of rescue system CD/disk to boot, it has to contain
Well of course. For "ghost" too! You can't do a copy without an
operating system.
> a module for your NIC and sshd. On the other hand, 50 workstations with
> Linux? I would seriously take a look at www.ltsp.org, makes
The only difference between ghost and tar or dd over ssh or rsh is
that ghost uses a broadcast protocol, so it's log(#machines) faster.
> administration
> & backup a lot easier...
Peter
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From: "Howard D. Brenner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm,de.comp.hardware.misc
Subject: HELP Looking for this board
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:41:24 -0400
We are in need of a device that comes close to the specs below, if not
exact. The only absolute requirments is: Sychronous and with a RS-422
connector.
A. Data Signals: Send Data (SD), Receive Data (RD)
B. Data Rates: 122 bps to 5.1 Mbps
C. Format: Digital, Serial Binary, NRZ, 50%+/- 10% duty
cycle
D. Interface Spec: TIA/EIA-422-B for 5.1 Mbps
E. Timing Signals: Terminal Timing In (TT), Receive Timing Out
(RT)
F. Frequency: 122 Hz to 5.1 MHz
Thanks
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From: "Martin Adler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Lotus Domino at startup and on different console
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:24:10 +0200
Hi there,
How do I setup a Lotus Domino server to start at bootup and have it's
console on a different Linux Console (example Alt+F6)?
Please help.... thanx in advance,
Martin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: root password problem
Date: 5 Jun 2001 19:26:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 09:47:59 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
>I finally ! got around to changing my root password ( I'm the only
>person using this machine so it's no big deal ) and now when I login as
>root, and type the password there is a 45 to 50 sec delay before the
>BASH prompt returns. This never happened before . Anyone have an ideas
>as to what I could look for ?
I've heard of something like this before, but can't remember what the
solution was.
What happens if you just login as a user and su to root, do you still get
the delay or not?
--
Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
web http://www.zeropps.uklinux.net/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
7:30pm up 123 days, 20:19, 2 users, load average: 1.20, 1.07, 1.02
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From: Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Laptop umruesten
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:27:32 +0200
Hallo an alle!
Ich habe hier ein etwas groesseres Problem. Ich habe vor kurzem einen alten
Laptop (i386, 400 MB Harddisk, 66 Mhz) geschenkt bekommen. Als
Betriebssystem ist Windows 3.1 installiert. Es ist nur ein 3,5 Zoll
Disketten-Laufwerk vorhanden, kein CD-Rom Laufwerk.
Jetzt meine Frage. Wie kann ich auf ein zwar mageres und
speicherplatzschonendes aber Internettaugliches Linux umruesten?
Evtl. mit einem ext. CD-Rom Laufwerk? Oder vorher schon den Kernel
kompilieren und auf Diskette ziehen? Ich weiss da echt keine wirklich gute
Loesung (weil ich auch noch nicht ganz aus dem 'Newbie-Stadium' 'raus bin
;))
Also, fuer eine etwas ausfuehrlichere Antwort waere ich sehr dankbar.
CU, Dennis.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Lotus Domino at startup and on different console
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 19:33:21 GMT
In article <9fjbh7$24s$07$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Martin Adler wrote:
>How do I setup a Lotus Domino server to start at bootup and have it's
>console on a different Linux Console (example Alt+F6)?
One idea: You could put a line in one of your startup scripts
(e.g. /etc/rc.d/rc.local) that uses the "openvt" command from
the consol-tools package to start a program on a particular
console. Or you could setup an init script and associated
symlinks (in accordance with whatever init system you use) that
does much the same thing.
=================================================================
OPENVT(1) Linux User's Manual OPENVT(1)
NAME
openvt - start a program on a new virtual terminal (VT).
SYNOPSIS
openvt [-c vtnumber] [-s] [-u] [-l] [-v] [--] command com�
mand_options
DESCRIPTION
openvt will find the first available VT, and run on it the
given command with the given command options, standard
input, output and error are directed to that terminal. The
current search path ($PATH) is used to find the requested
command. If no command is specified then the environment
variable $SHELL is used.
OPTIONS
-c vtnumber
Use the given VT number and not the first avail�
able. Note you must have write access to the sup�
plied VT for this to work.
-s Switch to the new VT when starting the command. The
VT of the new command will be made the new current
VT.
[...]
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! I just had a NOSE
at JOB!!
visi.com
Console tools 19 Jul 1996 2
>
>Please help.... thanx in advance,
>
>
>Martin
>
>
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! I just heard the
at SEVENTIES were over!! And
visi.com I was just getting in touch
with my LEISURE SUIT!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Whizguru)
Subject: Re: linux freezin
Date: 5 Jun 2001 12:45:25 -0700
"objbuilder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> if you're running X then it's possible that your kernel is still running
> fine. Try the following:
>
> ctrl-alt-f1
> login as root
> kill `pidof X`
> (notice the single back-quotes above)
> if X doesn't start back up...
> startx
>
>
> "alik blochin" wrote:
>
> > Hi
> > i have a very strange problem:
> > i recently installed mandrake 8.0 and everything goes alright but every
> > 2-3 hours i get a completely freezed system(only power button helps) and
> > nothing seems wrong:
> > all the drivers are installed properly.... The system freezes
> > particulary on screensaver...
> >
> > has anybody seen this before ?
> >
I am running Red Hat 7 with the 2.2 kernel. My machine locks up in or
out of X, although I more frequently use X. I try ^-Alt-bksp, and
^-Alt-Fx keys, but nothing helps. Today, all I had running in X was
XMMS. The computer continued to play the song although the display
was frozen (except the mouse), but did not continue on to the next
song. My eth0 was not active before the lockup, or I would have tried
to telnet in. Any ideas?
The Linux/Unix guru here at my office has never seen anything like it.
He is using the same basic machine (HP Omnibook 6000 P3 700, but mine
is a 600), as are several other Linux users and has had no problems
with it. I am thinking that it could be the Alsa drivers I loaded for
my sound, but now that I think about it, I think it froze once before
I got them loaded.
Thanks in advance,
-wg
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Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 22:13:10 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Replicating Linux computers
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> >>
> >> Christopher Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > Uri Van Creveld wrote:
> >> >> I have 50 identical PC's on which I want to run Linux.
> >> >> I don't want to run the installation on each one,
> >> >> And I'm not so keen on using dd because it means opening them all up etc.
> >>
> >> dd if=/dev/hda1 bs=102400 | ssh other_machine dd of=/dev/hda1 bs=102400
> >>
> >> >> What is the best way to do it? Is ghost good for it? something else?
> >>
> >> or
> >>
> >> tar cvlpfC - /mnt/hda1 . | ssh other_machine tar xvlpfC - /mnt/hda1
>
> > You need some kind of rescue system CD/disk to boot, it has to contain
>
> Well of course. For "ghost" too! You can't do a copy without an
> operating system.
Agreed. But why even bother with using a hd in some workstations?
> > a module for your NIC and sshd. On the other hand, 50 workstations with
> > Linux? I would seriously take a look at www.ltsp.org, makes
>
> The only difference between ghost and tar or dd over ssh or rsh is
> that ghost uses a broadcast protocol, so it's log(#machines) faster.
I haven't used ghost, however from the ltsp homepage:
Linux makes a great platform for deploying diskless workstations that
boot from a network server. The LTSP is all about running thin client
computers in a GNU/Linux environment."
Regards
Michael Heiming
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From: "Jay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: seeking Windows & Linux compatible email client
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 20:09:42 GMT
Would Netscape or Opera email software fit the criteria?
"bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:04ZS6.633$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Doctor X" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > Can anyone recommend an email client which I can use across these 3
> > platforms on the SAME set of offline (downloaded) email folders?
>
> afaik, pine http://www.washington.edu/pine/ will do what you want. its
> folders are quite simple formatted. at worst, you might have to run
unix2dos
> or a similar program to resolve the perennial CRLF problem.
>
> Not a glitzy client, but it does work.
>
>
>
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From: "Jay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: RH6.2 crashes, then /var/log directory lost, then ....
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 20:09:43 GMT
"the_ginzter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> I would like some advice from others who may know more about
> linux (specifically RH6.2) internals.
>
> After nearly 6 problem-free months with my RH6.2, it all of a sudden
> started to behave weirdly.
>
> - First, it wouldn't allow me to "su" to root. (If I logged out, and
> logged in as root, no problem. Login as myself, and su to root, I
> keep getting an "incorrect password".)
>
> - Second, when I ran xlock to temporarily lock my display, I
> got the same treatment, forcing me to do a hard shutdown and
> reboot.
>
> - On reboot, I noticed that:
> 1. I can't su to to any user.
> 2. I can only mount floppies, and cdroms if I logged in as root.
> Before, regular users were able to mount filesystems
> tagged with the "users" option in /etc/fstab.
> 3. /var/log dir tree is missing
> 4. After creating (via mkdir) /var/log, /var/log/httpd, etc,
> there's are persistent error logs that show up (repeatedly)
> in /var/log/messages:
>
> > localhost init: cannot execute "/sbin/mingetty"
> > ...
> > localhost init: Id "2" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
> > localhost init: Id "3" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
> > localhost init: Id "4" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
> > localhost init: Id "6" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
> > localhost init: Id "5" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
> > ...
> > localhost rpc.statd[1998]: gethostbyname error for ^X���^X���^Y���^
[junk deleted]
>
>
> QUESTIONS:
>
> 1. Any ideas on what caused this?
Odd dunno. Had a problem once with Cyrix cpu and Mandrake distro. Cyrix cpu
died.
Could it be heat related? Insufficient free space df/du ? What had you
changed prior?
Any other hints from /var/log/messages or /var/log/secure ?
>
> 2. I'm ready to re-install RH6.2 (or install RH7.x on top). Can I do so
> without having to kill my current Linux partitions?
Yes I think you can do a reinstall without destroying existing partitions
from the main menu.
>
> Thanks in advance.
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