Linux-Misc Digest #64, Volume #20 Wed, 5 May 99 00:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Peter Seebach)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Phil Hunt)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Phil Hunt)
CD-R as backup device ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Linux enforcment of file permissions... (ser du huset?)
Netscape 4.51 question (Jim Bailey)
Re: Linux enforcment of file permissions... ("David Z. Maze")
Re: where is makedepend (mist)
Re: newbie linux questions (mist)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Jim Richardson)
Re: line filter utility? (Ron Bergeron)
Re: HELP!! Linux Server crashes every 3-4 hours (Desmond Coughlan)
Re: Newbie: Learning Linux And Databases (Philip W. Darnowsky)
Re: How to exit windowmaker without dialog? (Charles M)
Re: NetZero ("Steve D. Perkins")
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Jim Richardson)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Jim Richardson)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Jim Richardson)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Jim Richardson)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Jim Richardson)
Re: lilo overwritten by windows (Tom Dow)
/etc/profile, xdm and a .xsession file ("Brent A")
Color printers (Charles M)
Re: Please Bug test my site ("Steve D. Perkins")
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Michael Powe)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach)
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 00:50:43 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>We can argue all we want, but the real world is where these decisions
>are being made. If we meet again in ten years we will see that Free
>software will have come to dominate some segments, but will have
>utterly failed to make inroads in others.
Yes.
And ten years after that, it will have dominated more segments, but will
still have failed to make inroads in others. :)
>The "Free software is so good that it will naturally take over" crowd
>is no different than the "communism is so good" crowd. Both assume the
>capitalists sit still and don't adapt.
Not so! I believe that free software is one of the ways the capitalists
are adapting.
>Consumers will decide in the end. My opinion is that it's not a one or
>the other type choice. Both will serve the needs they both are best
>at.
True enough.
-s
--
Copyright 1999, All rights reserved. Peter Seebach / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
C/Unix wizard, Pro-commerce radical, Spam fighter. Boycott Spamazon!
Will work for interesting hardware. http://www.plethora.net/~seebs/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Hunt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Wed, 05 May 99 01:25:38 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Andrew Carol" writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Phil Hunt
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Andrew Carol" writes:
> > > People would scream. There would be talk of boycotts.
> >
> > And lots of people would move over from BillyShit Bloatware to Linux.
>
> You make the common mistake of thinking that you are the typical case.
>
> "Linux must be the most popular. Everyone I know is using it."
I don't think that, but i do think that Linux is becoming increasingly
popular, and I know that if that trend continues, it will eventually
overtake Windows.
> My mom has a PC and runs Windows 98. She loves it. (I think she's
> nuts). If it turned out her PC had a dongle built in and MS Office
> required it, she'd never even notice or care.
What if she's bying a new PC, she goes into a shop and sees two,
one of which runs Linux and costs $400, the other runs Winodws and
costs $550, due to the extra costs involved in paying M$ royalties
for Windows and Office, and the extra hardware involved in running
these programs and the dongle? I think she might notice that
difference, and care about it.
> My point is that most people will simply go with the flow. If the
> dongle were built in, and software was "activated" while registering
> on-line, most people would not care. The only people who know enough
> to care are a very, very, very, tiny minority.
Until they are made aware of the lower-cost, higher spec Linux
alternative.
I recently bought a PC. It cost 870 pounds and runs Linux, Apache, PHP,
etc very nicely. Would nayone like to hazard a guess as to whether
a Windows NT box bought for the same budget would make as good a web
server? Would GBP 870 even cover the cost of NT and IIS license fees?
--
Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Hunt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Wed, 05 May 99 01:26:07 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Mike Coffin" writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
> > I had a long e-mail conversation with him. He's not only
> > anarcho-capitalist, but a hard-core libertarian, too. I fully expect
> > every libertarian to go nuts some day.
>
> Why would you think that? I've never heard of a libertarian going
> nuts.
Is that cos they're all nuts to start with?
--
Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CD-R as backup device
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 21:44:30 GMT
Does anyone know how to use a CD-R drive as a backup device
under linux? I want to do multiple backups on a single CD.
I've tried to follow the multi-session instructions for
cdrecord, without success.
I have TEAC R55S, running on an alpha.
I would love to have a script which did automated backups.
David Jaffe
Dept. of Math. and Stat.
Univ. of Nebraska - Lincoln
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ser du huset?)
Subject: Linux enforcment of file permissions...
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 01:54:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm really wondering how Linux enforces file permissions.
Theoratically, any program that reads the disk directly can access any
file on the hard drive (if it knows the file system, not encrypted
files)
So does Linux prohibits its application from doing that or something
else?
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From: Jim Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape 4.51 question
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 22:04:32 -0400
Reading newsgroups I sometimes want to mark a message or group of
messages as unread so the next time I open it, I can remind myself whats
going on. SURELY there's a way to mark a message as unread. I guess I
just can't find it. BTW - can anyone recommend another browser or
mailer or newsreader. Netscape is driving me nuts !
-- jim bailey
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux enforcment of file permissions...
Date: 04 May 1999 22:45:34 -0400
ser du huset? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
ser> I'm really wondering how Linux enforces file permissions.
ser> Theoratically, any program that reads the disk directly can
ser> access any file on the hard drive (if it knows the file system,
ser> not encrypted files)
This is why you don't allow arbitrary programs to read the hard drive
devices:
{1} dmaze% ls -l /dev/hda /dev/hda2
brw-rw---- 1 root disk 3, 0 Jul 20 1998 /dev/hda
brw-rw---- 1 root disk 3, 2 Jul 20 1998 /dev/hda2
So only users that are root or in group disk can access the drive
directly, but not the general public.
--
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/
"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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From: mist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where is makedepend
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:17:55 +0100
Reply-To: mist <new$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Bob van der Poel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed to us that -
>A few people have reported failures when attempting to compile my Ved
>Editor since there system (Red Hat 5.1) don't have makedepend installed.
>I think that makedepend is a part of another package...but I've never
>had to find it. Where can folks grab makedepend or the package it comes
>in. Thanks.
>
Are you sure it's not
make depend
as two separate words? (IE that the command is "make".)
--
Mist.
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From: mist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie linux questions
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:20:07 +0100
Reply-To: mist <new$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Albert Goins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed to us that -
>I have installed Red Hat 5.1 on my new machine after not having a
>machine to put Linux on for 3 years. A lot has changed in that time and
>I have a few questions I am having trouble finding answers to.
>
>1. Why doesn't LILO work?
<snip> Most likely because the windows 98 partition is formatted as
FAT32 and the two are incompatible. (Lilo and FAT32).
>
<snip>
>
>3. Why won't my windows 98 drive mount to /win98 like I told it to?
I've no idea. How are you trying to mount it? What's the error?
>How do I do this other than using disk Druid in the Red Hat install?
>What about my cdrom (IDE)?
What about it?
--
Mist.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: 5 May 1999 00:07:15 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 03 May 1999 20:25:02 -0600,
Craig Kelley, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>Ed Avis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> >If software copyrights were abolished the industry would simply and
>> >easily take matters into their own hands. They would push hard for
>> >copy protection to be rolled into the hardware. They would require
>> >downloading of "tokens" from the net to allow software to work etc.
>>
>> But it would be an easy matter to modify the software so that it
>> didn't require such 'tokens'. Even if the software were binary-only,
>> a 'crack' would not be too difficult.
>
>Not if your CPU had a unique ID. Give them the ID, they compute a
>hash of some sort and the software can verify it all.
given that we allready have emulators, which emulate the entire chip,
how difficult would it be to emulate the ID? F00F is a good start.
Intercepting a hardware call does have some performance issues, but it's
not impossible.
>
> [snip]
>
>Let them do it. See how many users jump ship just like rats (both in
>terms of buying NON-Intel CPUs and NON-Copyrighted software).
>
>--
>The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
>Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
--
Jim Richardson
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: Ron Bergeron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: line filter utility?
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 18:31:33 -0400
How about:
head -10 filename | tail -8
Tim Herzog wrote:
>
> of like a grep that matches a range of lines instead of a regex. For
> example: dump lines 3-10 from a file to stdout. I've been all over the
> man pages trying to figure out if this program exists, or if I could use
> grep, cat, head, sed or something similar to do what I want. Does this
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From: Desmond Coughlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP!! Linux Server crashes every 3-4 hours
Date: 04 May 1999 23:36:53 +0200
Ron Bergeron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I had a similar problem where the machine would just completely
> freeze. It used to happen 8-10 times a week. The load on the machine
> made no difference. The only way to recover was to power cycle the
> box. It turned out to be the Intel Etherexpress network card. I
> replaced the card over a year ago and haven't had the problem since.
My server occasionally freezes, but when I check out /var/logs/syslog,
I note that it always happens when my ISP's DHCP server interrogates
my server.
It just happened a few seconds ago. :-)
--
Desmond Coughlan |Restez zen ... Linux peut le faire
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[www site under construction]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip W. Darnowsky)
Subject: Re: Newbie: Learning Linux And Databases
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 22:52:37 GMT
Martin Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: On Tue, 4 May 1999 08:05:10 -0000, "Paul McRae"
: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: >Try the book The Linux Database by dorothy forbes
: >its got a lot of info and free databases.
: Surely that's Fred Butzen.
I've got a copy here, and the spine says that the author was "Butzen
Forbes." So you're both wrong. :)
===============================================================
Phil Darnowsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Remove spam, eggs, bacon, spam, and dot to reply.
Why is it that "Virginia is for lovers?" Wouldn't it make more
sense to say "Virginia is for virgins?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles M)
Subject: Re: How to exit windowmaker without dialog?
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 17:49:59 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> I'd like to set the exit menu to exit windowmaker without having to confirm.
> I didn't see anything like this in the docs I've seen.
>
> Cheers,
> dar
>
Click on the preferences icon and under the menu choices, find the exit
entry. There should be a "Don't prompt" type check box (Sorry if a bit
vague, I'm doing this from memory as I'm on a Windows machine right now).
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From: "Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: NetZero
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 19:33:44 -0400
> Is NetZero (free ISP) or a similar one available on Linux/i386. Thanks!
Contrary to some popular opinion, it IS possible to make NetZero work
under Linux (and to remove the advertisments as well, for that matter). I
haven't done it personally (the nearest access number is long-distance for
me anyway)... but if you do a search through DejaNews or something you'll
find that the question has been answered awhile ago in this group. Good
luck!
Steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: 5 May 1999 02:12:28 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 4 May 1999 14:50:02 +0200,
Matthias Warkus, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>It was the 4 May 1999 03:03:18 GMT...
>..and Jim Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 May 1999 15:47:34 +0200,
>> Matthias Warkus, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> brought forth the following words...:
>>
>> >It was the 03 May 1999 01:01:39 -0700...
>> >..and Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >[may Raymond and Perens duke it out some day?]
>> >> The false notion that Raymond had threatened Perens with violence was
>> >> first propagated by Perens in response to a statement from Raymond
>> >> that Perens interpreted to mean that Raymond might shoot him. Perens
>> >> subsequently retracted his interpretation of Raymond's statements and
>> >> admitted he had misunderstood them. You guys really should pay more
>> >> attention to what's going on ... even if it means less time spent
>> >> gossipping about what you don't know.
>> >
>> >I fully expect ESR to go completely nuts someday. Maybe it's not
>> >Perens whom he'll shoot. We'll see.
>> >
>> >mawa
>>
>> Why do you expect ESR to go completely nuts some day? do you have a
>> rational reason for this expectation?
>
>I had a long e-mail conversation with him. He's not only
>anarcho-capitalist, but a hard-core libertarian, too. I fully expect
>every libertarian to go nuts some day.
>
Kind of an odd position to take given the libertarian rejection of initiation
of force...
I'd say your bias' are showing...
>mawa
>--
>"An Amiga a day keeps the Apples away"
> -- David Jung, U. of Adelaide, S. Oz.
--
Jim Richardson
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: 5 May 1999 02:12:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 04 May 1999 14:04:55 -0700,
Andrew Carol, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>In article <7gnjrq$295$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roger Espel Llima
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Still not convinced. It reminds me of those fonts that were
>> RSA-encrypted (or somesuch) in .pdf files, yet someone figured out that
>> the key was embedded in the reader, and just extracted it.
>
>Well I guess they had a stupid implementation. I would not expect
>Intel to be so stupid as to provide a key visible to the software.
>
>There are packaging technologies which can make it very hard to extract
>information such as a key from the hardware. Some are actually quite
>good. I would imagine that if billions of dollars were at stake, Intel
>could figure it out.
>
if you know what a squid is, (and I ain't referring to a mollusc here.)
then you'll know that the hardware can be cracked.
>If they screwed up the first time, they would learn and try again.
>Having tens of billions to spend to protect hundreds of billions is
>quite formatible.
>
>I don't look forward to such a thing, but see it coming someday.
>
>Oh well...
--
Jim Richardson
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: 5 May 1999 02:12:35 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 04 May 1999 14:14:22 -0700,
Andrew Carol, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>In article <7gnk3q$2h1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roger Espel Llima
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> If vendors know the key to encode, then you do too (unless you posit
>> secret channels between Intel and every software vendor, which wouldn't
>> remain secret very long anyway).
>>
>> Or if they use public key crypto, you could create your own key pair,
>> give one key to the software vendor, and decrypt with the other.
>
>1 - Person buys software which is encrypted by vender.
>NOTE - Vender may change keys frequently.
>
>2 - Person registers software on-line.
via a n IP_masqueraded box, which strips out the ID (encrypted ot plain)
and inserts it's own.
>
>3 - CPU provides ID of CPU to vender.
>
>4 - Vender passes that to Intel via web channel.
>
>5 - Intel returns CPU's public key.
>This prevents spoofing. Intel knows all id->public key pairs
Assuming that the vendor is not in cahoots with the user.
>
>6 - Vender uses CPU's public key to encode software decode key. Give
>this to the user.
>
>7 - User writes this "magic" value to hardrive.
>
>8 - When run, the CPU reads the "magic" value, decodes with private
>key, and now obtains the software decode key.
squid sniffs out the decode key from the registers on the chip.
>
>9 - Software runs, even kernel level code can't see the actual key, or
>the actual decoded binary.
>
>Oh well......
oh well...
There are at least 3 avenues of attack for this encryption system that do
_not_ require a squid, and using a squid, the system breaks down completely.
Sorry...
--
Jim Richardson
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: 5 May 1999 02:12:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 4 May 1999 20:18:22 +0200,
Matthias Warkus, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>It was the 04 May 1999 10:27:42 -0700...
>..and Mike Coffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
>>
>> > I had a long e-mail conversation with him. He's not only
>> > anarcho-capitalist, but a hard-core libertarian, too. I fully expect
>> > every libertarian to go nuts some day.
>>
>> Why would you think that? I've never heard of a libertarian going
>> nuts.
>
>Well, In My Arrogant Opinion(TM), you must be at least a bit biased
>towards general nuttiness to *become* a libertarian to start with.
>
>That ideology is plain silly in my book. Most ideologies are plain
>silly, that is -- my way of looking at the world is not ideology-based
>but largely my own knitting.
which is still an ideology.
>
>mawa
>--
>DLRG, die:
> _Baywatch_ f�r Pfadfinder
--
Jim Richardson
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: 5 May 1999 02:12:37 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 04 May 1999 12:07:18 -0700,
Andrew Carol, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>In article <ubDX2.400$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Mikkelson
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Or the bad stuff, which has had the "dongle checking" code removed
>> by some enterprising cracker.
>
>
>Or encrypted so that it can't be removed. Why assume the dongle is
>under software control? This is a brave new world. Dongles need not
>be like the crude ones we are used to.
>
>--- Andrew
The problem with this approach is that the crackers have their hands on the
hardware, you can't stop them from tearing it apart. If you think that
they are limited to oscopes and ohmeters, you are mistaken.
You have two conflicting requirements, useability, and security, and they
are, to a large extent, diametrically opposed. You can tie a system up
so tight, that it is unusable. So you compromise somewhere in the middle.
Unfortunately, the crackers have more resources to direct at cracking, than
you have at securing. Securing data is one thing, securing an executable
is a whole nother world. Since it is dynamic, and controllable, the cracker
can run the equivilent of dictionary attacks on the system, He doesn't need
to know the code, just be able to replicate the hardware signals at some
point.
--
Jim Richardson
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: Tom Dow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lilo overwritten by windows
Date: 5 May 1999 03:41:13 GMT
On Tue, 04 May 1999, Donald wrote:
>i have a dual boot system. something went wrong with windows today, so i
>had to reinstall. i completely forgot that windows overwrites the mbr
>and i didn't make a boot disk for linux. any way of restoring lilo?
>any help is appreciated.
If you have the original Linux CD(s), there is usually a utility called
"rawwrite". This is a DOS program that will allow you to create a linux boot
floppy from a disk image that can also be found on the CD.
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From: "Brent A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: /etc/profile, xdm and a .xsession file
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 13:57:22 +1000
I'm using debian slink 2.1 and am having trouble with getting linux to read
in the settings from /etc/profile when someone logs in. It only seems to not
work if the user logs in using xdm, and a .xsession file. Seems to work fine
when the user has no .xsession file, or logs in through the one of the
consoles. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?
Thanks in advance for any help,
Brent
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles M)
Subject: Color printers
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 18:28:39 -0500
What is a good color printer for Linux? I have an old Epson color printer
that while OK under windows, shows degradation under Linux (because it
uses Windows software drivers for the higher quality effect). Does a
printer like the HP inkjets with their Ret mechanism produce high quality
that is OS independent? I'm not talking megabuck high grade commercial
printing quality here , but a close to photographic quality that doesn't
have obvious dithering.
CMM
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From: "Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Please Bug test my site
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 19:31:59 -0400
Sounds like a great idea... but the site doesn't seem to be taking browser
requests yet, nor does it respond when I ping it (although I am able to find it
when I do a "nslookup" for the address).
Steve
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 04 May 1999 21:07:13 -0700
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>>>>> "Matthias" == Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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Matthias> Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 May 1999 15:47:34 +0200, Matthias Warkus, in the
>> persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, brought forth the following
>> >It was the 03 May 1999 01:01:39 -0700... >..and Michael Powe
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >[may Raymond and Perens
>> duke it out some day?] >> The false notion that Raymond had
>> threatened Perens with violence was >> first propagated by
>> Perens in response to a statement from Raymond >> that Perens
>> interpreted to mean that Raymond might shoot him. Perens >>
>> subsequently retracted his interpretation of Raymond's
>> statements and >> admitted he had misunderstood them. You guys
>> really should pay more >> attention to what's going on ... even
>> if it means less time spent >> gossipping about what you don't
>> know. > >I fully expect ESR to go completely nuts
>> someday. Maybe it's not >Perens whom he'll shoot. We'll see. >
>> Why do you expect ESR to go completely nuts some day? do you
>> have a rational reason for this expectation?
Matthias> I had a long e-mail conversation with him. He's not only
Matthias> anarcho-capitalist, but a hard-core libertarian, too. I
Matthias> fully expect every libertarian to go nuts some day.
Hmm, they already are. The only question is whether their "burn the
ville in order to save it" mentality will ever reach critical mass.
mp
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