Linux-Misc Digest #64, Volume #26 Tue, 17 Oct 00 17:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Can not shutdown properly (Rafael - LumesITSupport)
Warning: Command is not ELF ("J.Smith")
Re: Warning: Command is not ELF (Robert Kiesling)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (2:1)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (2:1)
Keep getting: inetd[520]:exit status 1. Please help! (Niek van Suchtelen)
Re: Persistent password problem
recommend a database (Frank Stetzer)
Help!: BTTV + Hauppauge ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[Fwd: probs with stylus 600] (TM)
Re: Help with winmodem (rasteri)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (John Hasler)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (John Hasler)
Re: file is *really* tough to delete (Jim Schlemmer)
Re: file is *really* tough to delete (Jim Schlemmer)
Re: [Fwd: probs with stylus 600] (Robert Heller)
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From: Rafael - LumesITSupport <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can not shutdown properly
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:20:46 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I can shutdown and halt my RedHat 7.0 properly. It stops at:
INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel
When I press CTRL ALT DEL it do
INIT: switching to runlevel: 6 and waiting for ever.
Thus it no unmount file system and than it takes a long time to start
again. Where the problem is. How to force it to shutdown properly
Rafael
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From: "J.Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Warning: Command is not ELF
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:17:02 +0200
Hi.
I have just recompiled my shiny new 2.2.16 kernel, and now when I execute
some commands I get the message:
Warning: XXX is not ELF
After which the command *seems* to run as expected :)
I have both ELF and aout support build into the kernel, there not modules.
Is this message some kind of friendly version of "Hey Stupid! Why are you
still using aout?". Should I recompile all commands I get this on as ELF or
something?
All info is certainly appreciated.
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Warning: Command is not ELF
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 17 Oct 2000 15:28:16 -0400
"J.Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have just recompiled my shiny new 2.2.16 kernel, and now when I execute
> some commands I get the message:
>
> Warning: XXX is not ELF
What is the "XXX?"
> After which the command *seems* to run as expected :)
>
> I have both ELF and aout support build into the kernel, there not modules.
> Is this message some kind of friendly version of "Hey Stupid! Why are you
> still using aout?". Should I recompile all commands I get this on as ELF or
> something?
I believe it means that the program wouldn't run at all if the kernel
didn't support a.out binaries. Because most systems now use ELF,
a.out support is considered--I guess--not essential to a standard
distribution.
>
> All info is certainly appreciated.
As I said in a previous message, you can use 'ldd program-name' to
find out what dynamic libraries the executable expects to find at
run-time. Whether or not you want to rebuild the executables is
certainly your decision.
--
http://www.mainmatter.com/linux-faq/toc.html http://www.mainmatter.com/
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:26:40 +0100
Harry Lewis wrote:
>
> Grant Edwards wrote:
> >
> > In article <8seufm$c7d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, MH wrote:
> >
> > >Latex is fine. But try to give this to an experienced user of Word and it's
> > >not going to happen in this life time.
> >
> > Wow. Word must be far worse than I had initially thoought if using it
> > causes so much brain damage that it renders the user incapable of learning
> > simple tasks with even a lifetime to do so.
> >
> > Learning to use LaTeX is certainly no more difficult than learning to use
> > Word. Provided with a set of LaTeX templates, I've seen people with no
> > typesetting or programming experience whatsoever producing within a day
> > documents that looked like they were professionally typeset. You can spend
> > the rest of your life plus most of the next one futzing with Word and will
> > never end up with anything that wouldn't make a discerning reader gag.
> >
> > --
> > Grant Edwards grante Yow! My mind is making
> > at ashtrays in Dayton...
> > visi.com
>
> If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
>
> If all you have is a typesetting program, everything looks like a
> typesetting problem.
>
> Problem is, everything isn't a typesetting problem. Typesetting is the
> business of printers. Word processing is what users do.
>
> Harry
You've misunderstood latex. LaTeX allows you to write a document without
worrying about typesetting. You just say, "this is a new section",
"emphasize this", etc etc. LaTeX typesets for you. With word, you have
to do the typesetting yourself, such as 2 spaces after a full stop,
underlining or emboldening titles, and section numbering by hand.
The point about latex is that it does the typesetting for you, not the
other way round (although you can force it to do what you want).
I as a user prefer not to have to worry about typesetting, so I use
LaTeX/TeX. I also prefer the much higher quality output.
So your right, not everything is a typesetting problem, which is why the
task of seting type (what must be done in order to print the thing in
any system) is best left to a computer program.
-Ed
--
Konrad Zuse should recognised. He built the first | Edward Rosten
binary digital computer (Z1, with floating point) the | Engineer
first general purpose computer (the Z3) and the first | u98ejr@
commercial one (Z4). | eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:32:37 +0100
> PowerPoint? again, forget it.
You're bullshitting here. One of my lecture courses is done in
StarImpress and it looks as good as any PowerPoint presentation.
The best presentation I've seen (in terms of quality) is a LaTeX based
package that renders each frame to an image file and displays them in
netscape. It preduces very good looking results. And you can embed
audio, video, etc, etc.
> Plus, I don't understand the following statement, "SO is as good as MS
> office in that it doesn't crash like MS Office". What the hell does this
> mean? SO doesn't crash? That's pure BS. SO crashes less then MS office?
> That's completely unsupported by any facts you bring to the table. (none).
> OK, let us say the SO does crash less than MS office,would that and that
> alone make it better than MS office? But WE CAN'T say that, can we? Because
> we offer no evidence that that is the case. This is what I DETEST about
> linux advocacy. If I have a complaint about Linux, or a linux application. I
> say why, in no uncertain terms what it is I dislike, and will be happy to
> give particulars to back it up. You, and your cola partners in crime, on the
> other hand, make assertions like the above. You have nothing to back it up
> but the weight of your signature and the ubiquity of your presence on
> usenet. That and 50 cents might buy you a paper. Meanwhile, MILLIONS of
> people are using MS office every minute of every day. And yes, they DO get
> work done! That's the reality of what is facing Linux. That is THE desktop.
> You can dance around it, but if your argument is going to always resemble
> what you proffer above, you're in deep shit people.
You complain here about bull shit despite spouting it forth in great
volumes yourself (see top of message for one example). At least have a
leg to stand on when you try to complain.
-Ed
--
Konrad Zuse should recognised. He built the first | Edward Rosten
binary digital computer (Z1, with floating point) the | Engineer
first general purpose computer (the Z3) and the first | u98ejr@
commercial one (Z4). | eng.ox.ac.uk
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:48:08 +0200
From: Niek van Suchtelen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,comp.os.linux
Subject: Keep getting: inetd[520]:exit status 1. Please help!
Hi,
I'm relatively new to Linux. I just got my own dedicated server a few
days ago, and i'm running into a problem i can't find an answer to
anywhere (I looked in deja.com and everything). Sometimes, i send out a
mailing list using a Java program i made. It sends out about 6000 emails
using qmail (actually i made it for sendmail (using sendmail -bs), but
qmail is is installed on this computer, so i think all sendmail requests
are automatically taken care of by qmail).
The problem is that sometimes the whole system crashes, and it needs to
be restarted again. That happens when it's sending out those emails (it
doesn't always happen though). I now changed my program so it only sends
one email/second, and this might have solved it. However, in my system
logs, i still get error messages, that may or may not be related to this
problem:
I found out that WHEN the system goes down, it's after one of these
messages. But very often i just get them and the system doesn't go down
(i think only when at the same time i'm sending the emails).
I'm using Redhat 6.2, JDK 1.3 (from sun), also tested it with JDK1.2.2
from blackdown
I copied this from /var/log/messages
==
Oct 17 14:41:25 localhost checkpoppasswd: POP3 connect from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1]
Oct 17 14:41:25 localhost checkpoppasswd: pop3checkpasswd: POP3 user
bounce : /usr/local/plesk/qmail/mailnames/mydomain.com/bounce logged in
from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1]
Oct 17 14:46:22 localhost inetd[520]: pid 29117: exit status 1
==
I get this ALWAYS when i log into 110 to check my POP mail. It's
obviously checking the password, and then inetd exits! Why? What can i
do to fix this or prevent it? The following two lines are from my
inetd.conf:
==
smtp stream tcp nowait root
/usr/local/plesk/qmail/bin/tcp-env tcp-env
/usr/local/plesk/qmail/bin/smtp
pop-3 stream tcp nowait root
/usr/local/plesk/qmail/bin/tcp-env tcp-env
/usr/local/plesk/qmail/bin/pop3
==
Also, in the past, with sendmail (on my other computer), the messages i
sent out (emails) weren't *immediately* sent, like with qmail. They were
put in the queue and then sent every half an hour or whatever. I used
this option "sendmail -bs -ODeliveryMode=d". Now, with qmail, it seems
like it's overloading the server or something. I set qmail-remote to a
maximum of 10 (concurrencyremote) instead of 20, because i was afraid it
was making too many connections at once and maybe that crashed it. This
didn't make any difference though.
I hope someone can help me, because it's really frustrating!
Thanks a lot in advance, and if you reply, please also reply to my email
address since i don't check these newsgroups on a regular basis.
Niek
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Persistent password problem
Date: 17 Oct 2000 19:38:04 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Ron Ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> help. i'm confused.
> i have a linux redhat 6.2 (2.2.14-5.0smp) machine. in my /etc i have two
> files for passwords and shadows:
> chubba-<28> ls -al /etc/pass*
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 576 Oct 12 22:27 /etc/passwd
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 576 Oct 12 22:27 /etc/passwd-
> chubba-<29> ls -al /etc/shad*
> -r-------- 1 root root 545 Oct 12 22:27 /etc/shadow
> -r-------- 1 root root 545 Oct 12 22:27 /etc/shadow-
> first, what are these secondary files? "passwd-" and "shadow-"?
> second, why is my entry the only one that differs between the two?
> (entries below truncated for brevity and my peace of mind)
snip...
You changed your password... the "-" files are a backup.
As to being able to use BOTH passwords to log on -- are you
on NIS when your home is NFS mounted? If so, maybe one password
is the local password, and the other comes from NIS...
Ratboy666.
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From: Frank Stetzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: recommend a database
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 15:06:09 -0500
I need a recommendation for a database system.
I'd like to move several small databases from MS Access on Win98
to Redhat 6.2. Ideally what I want will:
1. Have a nice GUI frontend for adding/deleting/updating records
2. Be able to import/export in some common Windoze format, eg DBF
3. Allow perl access to tables via DBI or ODBC.
I don't care what the behind-the-scenes engine is (MySQL, GBD, etc),
what I need is a frontend that will be friendly to Windoze refugees
and import/export ability.
......................................................................
Frank Stetzer "...a cheerful comrade is better
[EMAIL PROTECTED] than a waterproof coat and a
Employed by, but not speaking for foot-warmer." Henry Van Dyke,
Univ of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, USA "Fisherman's Luck", 1899.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help!: BTTV + Hauppauge
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 20:04:02 GMT
Hi,
I'm getting crazy trying to have a Hauppauge WinTV PCI working under
SuSE 6.x / Linux 2.2.7
Under win95 Hauppauge support asked me to change both base memory audio
& video address
to the following, and it's working:
video: 78000000 - 78000FFF
audio: 78002000 - 78002FFF
IRQ9
my graphics card is a Diamond S3 Vision 968 PCI at IRQ11:
000C0000 - 000C7FFF
000A0000 - 000AFFFF
000B0000 - 000BFFFF
F8000000 - F9FFFFFF
Under Linux the card is detected but the base address seems bad (see
below).
the channel scans work but kwintv or xawtv show distorted images.
triton1 did'nt help
I've recompiled the module, I've also tried to use the vidmem parm but I
get an
"invalid parameter parm_vidmem"
any hints? thanks.
Olivier.
=============================================================
modprobe of bttv 0.6.4h:
================
Oct 15 22:48:44 texavery kernel: i2c: initialized
Oct 15 22:48:44 texavery kernel: i2c: driver registered: tuner
Oct 15 22:48:46 texavery kernel: Linux video capture interface: v0.01
ALPHA
Oct 15 22:48:46 texavery kernel: bttv: Host bridge 82437FX Triton PIIX
Oct 15 22:48:46 texavery kernel: bttv0: Brooktree Bt878 (rev 17) bus: 0,
devfn: 72, irq: 9, memory: 0xfbfff000.
^^^^^^^^^ ?????
Oct 15 22:48:46 texavery kernel: PCI: Enabling bus mastering for device
00:48
Oct 15 22:48:46 texavery kernel: bttv: Enabling 430FX compatibilty for
bt878
Oct 15 22:48:46 texavery kernel: bttv: 1 Bt8xx card(s) found.
Oct 15 22:48:46 texavery kernel: bttv0: Hauppauge eeprom: tuner=Philips
FI1216MF MK2 (3)
Oct 15 22:48:46 texavery kernel: bttv0: model: BT878(Hauppauge new
(bt878))
Oct 15 22:48:46 texavery kernel: i2c: bus registered: bt848-0
Oct 15 22:48:46 texavery kernel: tuner: type is 3 (Philips SECAM)
Oct 15 22:48:46 texavery kernel: i2c: device attached: tuner (addr=0xc2,
bus=bt848-0, driver=tuner)
=========================================================
Hauppauge.txt:
==========
Model 38066 Rev. B409
Serial #3938646
Tuner Formats: PAL (B/G) / SECAM (L/L')
Tuner Audio: Mono
Video Formats: NTSC ( M ) PAL ( B G H I D K M N NCOMBO ) SECAM ( L L' )
Audio Outputs: BackPanel
External Inputs: 1
S-Video Inputs: 0
Teletext: Yes (Software)
Radio: None
Decoder: BT878
Tuner Model: Philips FI1216MF MK2
EEprom Contents:
84 12 00 00 05 50 0e 7f 24 09 01 b2 94 19 44 89 00 00 00 00 04
84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 56 19 3c 00
74 02 01 00 02
79 26
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: TM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Fwd: probs with stylus 600]
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 22:21:13 +0200
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From: TM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: probs with stylus 600
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 15:07:27 +0200
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Xref: isdnethub comp.periphs.printers:68008
hi,
I have some trouble with a stylus 600 printer used with linux. I
configured the printing service to use exactly this model with a
definition of 360x360 dpi. The text is very well printet but the whole
page is also covered with thin regular blue lines. I tried also 720x720
and then the lines are much more close one to another.
Any idea?
Thanks
TM
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From: rasteri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Help with winmodem
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:41:25 +0100
It still doesn't work. I have followed the instructions to the letter, and
still no replies from any of my modem commands. I am setting the serial ports
right in minicom. Is this model of modem known to work under linux? It is
mandrake 7.1, will that make any difference? Does anybody know the email
address of the person who wrote this driver so I can contact them?
thanks
andrew
"M. Buchenrieder" wrote:
> [Note FollowUp-To: header]
>
> rasteri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >I have a advent laptop with a built in pci (I think) modem. I have
> >reason to beleive that it is a winmodem. When I go to hyperterminal and
> >type ati3 I get "Pctel 7.5504MS" as the reply. In the modems section of
> >control panel it calls itself a "V.90 K56flex HSP PCI modem".
>
> PCTel Winmodem.
>
> >Is there
> >any hope of getting this to run under linux? I have tried a few pctel
> >drivers from http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
>
> [...]
>
> You'll have to precisely follow the instructions with the pctel.o
> module, especially as far as using the matching modules and kernel
> versions are concerned.
>
> Michael
> --
> Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
> Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
> Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:57:39 GMT
Jean-David Beyer writes:
> I want one tool that works for e-mail, browsing, and newsgroups.
Gnus does an excellent job on email and news. I don't know why anyone
would want to combine those with Web browsing, though.
> That way, when I am running the browser or the newsreader, I am
> automatically notified of incoming e-mail.
I am automatically notified of incoming e-mail regardless of what I am
doing. That is what biff, xbiff, and their imitators are for. Biff has
been around for decades.
> I am automatically notified of incoming e-mail. I do not normally care to
> use /bin/mail or elm for e-mail because they do not render MIME very well
> (at all).
Try Gnus or Mutt or one of the many other email clients.
> I forget the news reader I used in the old pre-Netscape days (news?)
> because it does not notice incoming e-mail, etc.
There are zillions of newsreaders available now.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:45:08 GMT
Robert Heller writes:
> Important documents in the past went as typewriten *manuscripts* to a
> *professional* typesetter, who used *natural* intelligence to *deduce*
> formatting issues from the (basically *unformatted*) typewriten
> manuscripts.
Unformatted but marked up with typesetting symbols by an editor. Guess
where the phrase "markup language" came from.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: Jim Schlemmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: file is *really* tough to delete
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 15:34:16 -0400
Robert Surenko wrote:
>
> Have you tried rm -F ??
My rm doesn't take a -F. I've tried -f but, as anticipated, that merely
suppresses squawks.
> Although, I'm not in front of a system right now but it seems to me that
> maybe the file is "open" by some process.
I wondered this myself -- or wondered if somehow the file was locked. I
doubt this is what's happening though, as I've found a few other files
that exhibit the same traits. These 'undeleteable' files are apparently
authentic too, not trojan versions. This tends to make me believe that
there's inode confusion or something.
> If ps doesn't show you anything you may have to boot in single user mode.
> What does /etc/inetd.conf look like, anything unusual?
Everything's blocked out except ftpd which is run through tcpd, which
(now) disallows any hosts outside of our one tiny domain. sshd is a
daemon process.
> I'm not infront of a system, what does ftpcount do?
Apparently an program that comes with wu-ftp and which tallies up the
number of users in various classes.
Thanks.
-jim
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From: Jim Schlemmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: file is *really* tough to delete
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 15:36:09 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> To be safe you need to low level format all the drives in this system and
> start over. If somebody got in then you better beleive that they changed
Unfortunately, it's looking like you're right.
> a lot more than your ftp deamon files.
Really?
> If you like being hacked then by
> all means just keep doing what you are doing.
Thanks!
-jim
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: probs with stylus 600]
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:03:05 -0000
TM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Tue, 17 Oct 2000 22:21:13 +0200, wrote :
T> hi,
T> I have some trouble with a stylus 600 printer used with linux. I
T> configured the printing service to use exactly this model with a
T> definition of 360x360 dpi. The text is very well printet but the whole
T> page is also covered with thin regular blue lines. I tried also 720x720
T> and then the lines are much more close one to another.
T>
T> Any idea?
T>
T> Thanks
T>
T> TM
I produce execelent printouts using the uniprint driver. Here the
postscript.cfg files I use:
'fastcolor' (Epson Stylus Color 600, 720x720DpI, Plain Paper):
#
# configuration related to postscript printing
# generated automatically by PRINTTOOL
# manual changes to this file may be lost
#
GSDEVICE=uniprint
RESOLUTION=NAxNA
COLOR=stc600p
PAPERSIZE=letter
EXTRA_GS_OPTIONS=""
REVERSE_ORDER=
PS_SEND_EOF=NO
#
# following is related to printing multiple pages per output page
#
NUP=1
RTLFTMAR=18
TOPBOTMAR=18
'color' (Epson Stylus Color 600, 1440x720DpI, Inkjet Paper):
#
# configuration related to postscript printing
# generated automatically by PRINTTOOL
# manual changes to this file may be lost
#
GSDEVICE=uniprint
RESOLUTION=NAxNA
COLOR=stc600ih
PAPERSIZE=letter
EXTRA_GS_OPTIONS=""
REVERSE_ORDER=
PS_SEND_EOF=NO
#
# following is related to printing multiple pages per output page
#
NUP=1
RTLFTMAR=18
TOPBOTMAR=18
--
\/
Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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