Linux-Misc Digest #64, Volume #24 Thu, 6 Apr 00 22:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: recieving mail with pin (Dances With Crows)
Re: Bloody clock is an hour fast (Mark Ferraretto)
Re: Did I kill my monitor?? (Mark Valiukas)
mail forwarding (Mike Sullivan)
Re: cgi returning UTC for LOCALTIME ! (Pierre Royal)
help! I erased my boot disk! ("Benjamin S. Jones")
Re: Bloody clock is an hour fast (Mark Ferraretto)
Re: RedHat gets "echo" wrong (Craig Macbride)
Re: Linux Reliability (Christopher Browne)
Re: pppd dies from SIGHUP (John Loukidelis)
Re: Is someone hacking into my machine !!? (Oktay Altunergil)
Re: how projects within linux commnunity work? (Robert Heller)
Re: pppd dies from SIGHUP (Bill Unruh)
Get Rid of MSh*t ^M's <CR> from a file... (Alan Fay)
belt around cdrom writer folder (me)
Yet another benchmark? (bv)
problem to add a network card ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: BOOKS ON LINUX ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
how to mount a second hard drive ("Deterrant")
How to add more swap space to an existing system? (mike)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: recieving mail with pin
Date: 06 Apr 2000 20:16:59 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 06 Apr 2000 15:55:35 -0400, Russell Schreiber
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>How do you configure pine for an external mail server. I dont know if I
>have this set up correctly or not. Also, when its set up, what keys to
>you hit to download the messages. No messages ever appear in my inbox.
>From the main menu, "C"onfig, "S"etup, and change the "inbox-path" to
something like so:
{pop3.foo.mailprovider.org:110}inbox (for POP3 servers)
{imap.foo.mailprovider.org:143}inbox (IMAP servers)
Also change the smtp-path to the right SMTP server. When it's set up
correctly, quit Pine and restart it... if everything's fixed right, then
you will be asked for username and password, then all your mail should
show up in Pine's window. HTH,
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Ferraretto)
Subject: Re: Bloody clock is an hour fast
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 00:21:30 GMT
On 05 Apr 2000 09:26:51 -0400, Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Ferraretto) writes:
>
>> I'm running Mandrake 7.0. Daylight Savings (summer time) finished
>> here a couple of weeks ago and ever since, my PC has been booting up
>> an hour fast! I run date to set the time back and all is OK until
>> the next reboot!
>
>did you boot into windows? ms-dos and its derivates have a
>fundamentally broken notion of time.
No, it's a 100% linux box (with VMWare installed but that's not the
problem).
>
>> I'm running a Toshiba laptop and it doesn't let me set the clock in
>> the BIOS so date's the only way to go. I'm running NTP but it dies
>> because the variation is too great.
>
>> Any ideas?
>
>can you run the hardware clock in zulu time (aka universal coordinated
>time (UTC)? utc is greenwich mean time *without* daylight savings
>schenanigans. linux will consult a table to find your local time
>offset and give you local times. this is the only sane way to run
>your computer clock.
>
>if you have microsoft, there's nothing you can do about it. live with
>raw utc there. let microsoft lose -- it's what they do best.
>
I was going to set the clock to UTC but there's no way to set it in
the BIOS. I figure if I use date to do it I won't get much more joy.
--
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Ferraretto IT Services Fax: +61 8 8396 7176
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Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 09:21:19 +1000
From: Mark Valiukas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Did I kill my monitor??
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> And verily, didst Joe Schottman hastily scribble thusly:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> <snip>
> > Be VERY carefull working with electronics if you don't know what you're doing.
> > Even with no power, there can be capacitance that takes a long time to
> > discharge.
>
> Especially around the CRT itself. That thing can REALLY pack a punch.
> (25,000 volts worth)
Although, thankfully, with very little ability to follow through with large currents
for long
periods of time (unlike the huge and deadly capacitors in microwave ovens, many of
which don't have bleeder resistors and can stay live for weeks - if not longer...)
If anyone really *must* work on their own monitor, without the benefit of adequate
technical
training, let me make two suggestions:
Twiddle the trimpots with plastic alignment tools, not metal screwdrivers. Most of
the wipers
on trimpots have plastic slots on them these days, but you never know when you might
slip
or what you might accidentally brush the screwdriver against.
Work with one hand in your pocket - don't keep both hands on the gear.
This is intended to minimise the chance of forming a current path through
your heart.
You might like to take a look at a few electronics repair/safety FAQ's - I
seem to recall that there were a few a year or two ago.
Whatever you choose to do, do it safely.
Mark.
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From: Mike Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mail forwarding
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 00:30:21 GMT
I am trying to increase security and reliability of our current network
mail structure. We have T1 access with a full Class C.
Situation: Currently I have 20+ windoze nt workstations using a MS
Exchange server for email. The Exchange server is outside our firewall so
that means all of our internal mail is insecure.
Proposed Solution: I want to move the MS Exchange server behind the
firewall and use it for only internal mail. I am then going to setup a
Linux-Sendmail based mail server outside our firewall to handle all the
internet e-mail.
Problem: The users on the network need the email to be at their
workstation imediately upon arrival to the mail server, just as it is with
Exchange currently, so pop3 every 60 seconds is not an option. Replacing
NT and Exchange is NOT and option (for now).
My Idea: I want to recieve the mail on the linux box as mail.mycompany.com
and then have the mail immediately forwarded to the Exchange mail server
called int-mail.mycomany.com via a private network connection, such as a
second network card in each of the machines running on a non routable ip.
I guess this would be mail routing?
How this be done?
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From: Pierre Royal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cgi returning UTC for LOCALTIME !
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 20:41:45 -0400
On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 17:58:27 GMT, Paul Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I'm running into a problem with a particular cgi program that returns
>time in UTC instead of localtime ! I'm moving to a new dedicated
>server, and I've never seen this behavior before. I have several other
>perl scripts on this server that properly return localtime. Also, I
>have the problem program running on another server that properly
>returns localtime.
>
>Does anyone know of any server configuration issues that might be
>causing this strange behavior?
>
I also have that strange behaviour with a samba server since the last
time change. I was using a logon script to set the time on the client
machines. Everything was working fine until last week. Now that server
always return time in UTC instead of localtime.
I have an other server that return the time in localtime. Both servers
are running Slackware 7 and are running Samba 2.0.5a. I looked
everywhere for a clue on that strange behaviour without any success.
Pierre Royal
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From: "Benjamin S. Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help! I erased my boot disk!
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:48:16 -0500
I had LILO on a boot disk which I used to boot up RH5.2 on a PC running
Win95 and linux. I acidentally erased that disk, and now I can't boot
linux. I do have a rescue disk, but it only gives me a few limited
commands so I can't seem to repair anything. Is there any way I can get
back in? If not, is there any way I can at least retrieve a few files on
the linux partition of my hard drive?
B. Shawn Jones
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Ferraretto)
Subject: Re: Bloody clock is an hour fast
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 00:48:09 GMT
On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 14:53:17 GMT, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Mark writes:
>> Any ideas?
>
>man hwclock.
Problem solved.
Thanks
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Ferraretto IT Services Fax: +61 8 8396 7176
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Subject: Re: RedHat gets "echo" wrong
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Macbride)
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 00:57:18 GMT
Tom Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Can't you put this into $HOME/.bashrc:
> alias echo='echo -e'
You can, but it won't do anything, for two reasons:
1) Bash doesn't run .bashrc when it's invoked as /bin/sh instead of /bin/bash.
2) .bashrc doesn't get run by non-interactive scripts.
(As one would expect, otherwise scripts would exhibit all manner of
unpredictable behaviour, depending on the individual who ran them.)
>Hmmm. IIRC there is some magic required to let you alias a builtin.
Yep. "enable -n" ... Unfortunately, there's no easy way to run it for every
shell script. (... except to edit every shell script.)
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=======================http://www.nyx.net/~cmacbrid========================
"It's a sense of humour like mine, Carla, that makes me proud
to be ashamed of myself." - Captain Kremmen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Linux Reliability
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 00:57:10 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Saurabh would say:
>Hello,
>I have Windows 95. I am planing to add LInux in my PC but the problem is
>there are frequent power cuts ion our city. The power cuts does not create
>any problem even if my PC is on in case of windows 95 as it simply runs the
>scandisk when PC restarts agian. What about linux ? Will linux create any
>problem if computer goes off when linux is on ?
>Please help me. Should i Install linux.
If you have serious and common problems with power outages, I would
strongly suggest that you look into getting a UPS, regardless of what
OS you plan to run. The resultant power fluctuations can be harmful
to your computer hardware, irrespective of any data issues.
Linux has a utility called "fsck" that is rather like a "seriously
souped-up SCANDISK" that will run any time you shut your system down
uncleanly. That almost always fixes the problems that result from
unclean shutdowns.
There are also several "journalling" filesystems on Linux that are
approaching usability; they build a "log" of the most recent updates
to the filesystem, usually the last 32MB worth of changes or some
similar quantity. This means that when you reboot, rather than the
filesystem checker having to look through your entire 8GB drive to see
what changes may not have been complete, it only needs to examine the
32MB of material to see what portions of _that_ haven't been fully
committed to the filesystem.
ReiserFS is the nearest to being generally useful; watch for this
stuff in another six months.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Loukidelis)
Subject: Re: pppd dies from SIGHUP
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 01:13:34 GMT
I'm having a similar problem except that I get the SIGHUP every *2d*
time my script tries to dial in. It'll die the first time it tries to
get in; it'll then connect the 2d time without any problem.
On 4 Apr 2000 03:57:33 GMT, Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dennis Marshall
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ]I have had a similar problem with
>the same pppd, but on Redhat 6.1. It will dial ]up and as soon as
>the ppp daemon starts, it hangs up. It could be that i am using ]a
>Winmodem with linux drivers on /dev/ttys14.. but that shouldn't be a
>problem.. ]i've tried connecting with minicom, kppp, and
>linuxconf... all die whenever the ]pppd is started. This seems to
>have been a bug with Redhat introduced into pppd. Go to their site
>and update kppp and pppd-- or get the source and compile it yourself.
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From: Oktay Altunergil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is someone hacking into my machine !!?
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 21:30:05 GMT
When you install some distrubitons, they run some checks on your system at a
particular time everyday (week or
month). For example my Linux-Mandrake system checks to see if there are any world
writable files and since this
involves going through all of the hard drive (feels much like 'find /' if you are
logged in at that time) this slows things
quite a lot. Again in my distro the cron deamon sends an e-mail report to the 'root'
after it finishes checking the
system for various stuff. You might want to check to see if there is any e-mail in
your 'root' users mailbox. Even if you
don't have any, it might still be crond checking various stuff only not sending an
e-mail to the root.
My humble contribution.
Thanks.
Oktay
PS: Add NOSPAM to my address if you will spam me.
Alexander Maus wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > I'm a bit worried. I think someone tried to hack onto my box while I
> was
> > surfing the web yesterday.
> >
> ...
> > As I was surfing EVERYTHING suddenly became really slow (I clicked on a
> > netscape menu and it would take 3 secs to popup), and my windows would
> > suddenly lose focus (become inactive).
> >
> > I tried to alt-tab between apps and noticed a whole lot (maybe 15) other
> > processes running besides what I had opened (but I could not switch to
> > them so I don;t know what they were).
> ...
> > Anyone have any ideas as to what might have happened ?
> >
> > One more thing : I installed Netscape 4.61 a while ago but it didn't
> > completely install (and I forgot about it). While searching thru my dirs
> > I found the netscape 4.61 executable and thought I see if there was an
> > improvement in speed (over 4.51). Is it possible that the 'incomplete'
> > installation some how left some security loop holes ? In which case if I
> > run 4.51 I shouldn't have a problem right !?
>
> You see, when Linux is running cron (a daemon which starts tasks
> depending on time) starts system-checks and so on in periods. This may
> cause a slow down of your system. There are many tasks started if
> running X Windows (try 'ps -a' in a shell und XWin). Many of them are
> invisible (background running) tasks. And the tasks started by cron are
> added. I don't think an incomplete installation of NS causes a security
> hole. It works or it doesn't work.
>
> That's a possible simple answer.
>
> Greetings
> Alexander
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how projects within linux commnunity work?
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 22:12:28 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In a message on Thu, 06 Apr 2000 18:22:38 GMT, wrote :
s> Dear Ma'am/Sir:
s>
s> Our group is researching the topic of "How projects within the Linux
s> community work".
s> It seems to us that every project is done by volunteers throughout the
s> world.
s> However, there are many questions that remain.
Here are some useful URLs relating to these issues you might want to
visit:
The Cathedral and the Bazaar: <http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/>
Homesteading the Noosphere: <http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/homesteading>
The Magic Cauldron: <http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/magic-cauldron/>
All three from: <http://www.opensource.org/links.html>
s>
s>
s> 1. who initiates it, and how is it initiated?
s> a. who organizes?
s> b. how are projects distributed such that it is possible for each
s> volunteer to work individually?
s> i. without extensive background information
s> ii. without physical presence
s>
s> 2. resources
s> a. finance
s> i. donations
s> ii. government funding
s> iii. how are funds allocated
s>
s> b. location
s> c. monitoring/maintenance
s> i. who is responsible for keeping track of the phases of the
s> project?
s> ii. how do you motivate volunteers?(rewards, recognition)
s> d. human resources
s> i. how do you recruit or advertise?
s>
s> 3. structure of the organization
s> a. how are organizational positions selected?
s>
s> 4. communication issues
s> a. frequency and amount of correspondence during a project
s> b. periodic conventions or meetings of members
s>
s> 5. the efficiency and quality of the volunteers
s> a. relative length and quality of project compared to profit driven
s> organizations
s> b. verification of ability and qualifications of potential volunteers
s> c. training of volunteers
s>
s> Could you please give us some information on these topics or any others
s> you may find important to the understanding of the orgainization? We
s> would appreciate any feedback whether it is direct answers or possible
s> locations where this information can be found.
s>
s> Thank you for your time,
s>
s> Michele Palmisano, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
s> David Lim, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
s>
s>
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s> Before you buy.
s>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: pppd dies from SIGHUP
Date: 7 Apr 2000 01:31:16 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John
Loukidelis) writes:
>I'm having a similar problem except that I get the SIGHUP every *2d*
>time my script tries to dial in. It'll die the first time it tries to
>get in; it'll then connect the 2d time without any problem.
Known bug that redhat introduced (they blame pppd). Get the update off
the redhat web site.
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From: Alan Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Get Rid of MSh*t ^M's <CR> from a file...
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 23:23:05 +0100
I'm using Linux 'diff' and 'patch' to merge my source code
changes into MSh*t source code files. I take the files from
the MS machine and 'diff -c' them.
Unfortunately, the MSh*t ^M's are causing me problems.
How can I easily get rid of these from all files in a
directory? (recursively?)
vi -b :%s/^M//
but there are a lot of files going to and from the MS
machine (and each time MS borg insists on adding the ^M).
I love it when MSh*t does things like...
do you want to delete this file <yes> <no> <ok> <canel>
are you sure <yes> <no> <ok> <cancel>
ten seconds later...
are you really sure <cancel> <no> <ok> <yes>
deleting this file may effect installed applications...
continue <cancel> <ok> <no> <yes>
are you absolutely sure you do not want to keep this file...
continue <cancel> <ok> <no> <yes>
I haven't made you click-the-mouse-button-ten-times-a-second-today
so I'll make up for it...
continue <cancel> <ok> <no> <yes> <don't care at this point>
long pause...
..file sharing violation the file was not saved...
alan
Alan Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
OpenVMS/Alpha Linux Consultant
Nr. Andover, Hampshire, England.
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From: me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: belt around cdrom writer folder
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 20:36:47 -0600
Why can't I list a directory of my cdrom writer, but I am able to write
to it with the drive and read the resulting cd from another cd drive?
It is an HP CD-Writer 7220 series, using Mandrake 7.0. Tried with
supermount enabled and not enabled.
This also happens with my floppy drive where I can neither read nor
write.
This happens as root and user also (of course). The permissions are:
/mnt/cdrom drwxrwxrwx root root
/mnt/disk dr-xr-xr-xr root root
Here is my fstab file:
dev/hda1 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda5 swap_upgrade swap defaults 0 0
/dev/hda6 / ext2 defaults 1 1
/mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0
/mnt/cdrom2 /mnt/cdrom2 supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom2 0 0
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
The Cd-Writer is set-up as /dev/scd0 which is /mnt/cdrom. I also tried
putting dev=/dev/scd0 at the end of the line to no avail.
Thanks!!
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From: bv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.fortran
Subject: Yet another benchmark?
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 18:45:42 -0700
This one from "Linux Journal", Feb. 2000, pg. 141
OS ODE
==================================
Win98 2.55 sec
Linux 2.51 sec
Win95* 0.72 sec
==================================
machine: Pentium 133MHz w/32MB RAM
* under VMWare
Degradation of each successive Win is nothing new, however Linux a
performance companion to Win98?? Anyhow, since "Language Challenge 2000"
problem is heavy on ODE you might want to keep this table in mind...
--
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===============================================
Modeling * Simulation * Analysis
http://www.sdynamix.com
===============================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: problem to add a network card
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 01:46:29 GMT
Dear all,
i have redhat 6.0 and 3com 3c509b-tpo installed,
now i want to add another 3com 3c509b-tpo network card on it
then i restart my computer,
after starting eth0 and eth1
starting eth0 [ OK ]
starting eth1 [ OK ]
i get an error show:
eth0: Infinite loop in interrupt, status 2001
eth0: Infinite loop in interrupt, status 2001
eth0: Infinite loop in interrupt, status 2001
eth0: Infinite loop in interrupt, status 2001
eth0: Infinite loop in interrupt, status 2001
what is the problem, pls help me
Thanks
Cyrus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: BOOKS ON LINUX ?
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 01:52:44 GMT
In article <8ciap4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Johannes Nix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve) writes:
> I think that the problem with books about Linux is that the subject is
> changing far to fast for most books being useful for more than one or
> two years. <snippage>
Well, in that case any book on Windows is only good for about
forty-eight hours.
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From: "Deterrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera
Subject: how to mount a second hard drive
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:08:11 -0400
I'm new to Linux in general, and I'm running Openlinux 2.3 with KDE. What I
can't figure out is how to access my second hard drive - it's like it
doesn't even exist.
If anyone could e-mail me, and explain in very simple terms how to access or
mount the hard drive, it'd be much appreciated.
Additionally, I'm looking for a way to find out how much space I have on the
drive(s) - free and used.
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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to add more swap space to an existing system?
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 22:10:14 -0400
I think that I might need more swap space and I don't want to
reinstall Redhat 6.1. I have some free space on my hard drive
so I was wondering If it was possible to add more swap space
to my system.
Mike
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