Linux-Misc Digest #79, Volume #20 Thu, 6 May 99 04:13:09 EDT
Contents:
running smtp, http, etc. from inetd? (Azfar Kazmi)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (jik-)
Re: Mac-emulation on Linux? (Clifford T. Matthews)
Re: Shadow Passwords (KDE Screensavers need suid) (Marc Mutz)
Re: X Windows Set-up Problems ("Derek S. Smigelski")
Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (was: Wanted: Database/Contact mgr with
backend on Linux/FreeBSD, web frontend) (Michael Maxwell)
Re: Linux E-mail sending me NT stuff? (Roy Varghese)
Re: A Simple Question (Paul Kimoto)
A Simple Question ("Wa;t")
Printer setup problem ("Theo van der Merwe")
Re: A Simple Question (Roy Varghese)
Re: MS Exchange and Linux ("Tim Wise")
Re: where to put libjpeg.so , libpng.so files ? (Mihaly Gyulai)
Will appreciate any help with routing ("Wai Fai, Yee")
Re: Linux damaging hardware through kernel patch???? (Keven R. Pittsinger)
ICQ Java alternative (Roy Varghese)
Re: The Best Linux distribution? (was Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux) (david parsons)
Re: Xdm on startup? (Marcus Siegl)
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From: Azfar Kazmi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: running smtp, http, etc. from inetd?
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 05:55:18 GMT
Is running smtp, http, etc. from inetd [and not their separate programs] a
good idea? This way, however, you get more control on what to accept and what
to not.
--
Azfar Kazmi
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Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 23:02:49 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Marco Anglesio wrote:
>
> On 05 May 1999 19:56:24 -0700, Mike Coffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Anglesio) writes:
> >> What incentive is there for private initiatives to promote literacy on a
> >> large enough scale?
> >
> >Huge. Most *parents* want their children to be literate. They go to
> >tremendous lengths to educate children and young adults. Millions
> >pay taxes and then pay tuition in addition to get a slightly better
> >result than public schools.
>
> I daresay (not being a historian, but being relatively well-read in
> history) that that's because most other children are literate and their
> children will compete against those other children, not because literacy
> is in and of itself an intrinsic good. To an individual, being able to
> read really isn't, unless it can be put to some use. The reason we have so
> many uses for literacy is because we have a large population of the
> literate. It is an immense intrinsic good for the collective, even when
> the direct payback in individual cases doesn't approach the expense. And
> there is where collective action comes in.
>
> I think that we agree, more or less, here, despite coming from different
> approaches.
Boy, you must not read much....." not because literacy is in and of
itself an intrinsic good. To an individual, being able to read really
isn't,"
More idiotic words have never been spoken. I personally gain a great
deal from my ability to read, though I do not excercise it often enough
for my tastes. Not just technical manuals or other educational books
either, my favorite reads serve no better purpose then to give me
pleasure. I put e great value on MY ability to read, the fact that
someone else wouldn't staggers me.
"even when the direct payback in individual cases doesn't approach the
expense."
Well, I stand corrected, it is possible to out stupify the previous
statement. Out of all the money paid in taxes by every individual, very
little is speant on education, most goes into the creation of more
killing devices that I am sure there is ample need for these days. I
personally think it is a GREAT deal more expensive NOT being able to
read, or letting other people go through life without the ability if it
can be at all helped. I think you seriously need to reconsider your
opinion in this case.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clifford T. Matthews)
Subject: Re: Mac-emulation on Linux?
Date: 05 May 1999 21:54:23 -0600
>>>>> "William" == William Burrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
William> On 05 May 1999 14:44:15 -0600, Clifford T. Matthews
William> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'll see what we can dig up over here. As others have pointed
>> out, Executor has plenty of limitations, including the inability
>> to emulate PowerPC.
William> Is there any chance of this limitation being lifted sometime
William> in the future? The few Mac fiends I know diss Executor just
William> due to this limitation.
I answered this a little more thoroughly in e-mail, since I didn't
realize it had been posted as well.
The short answer is it's likely that we'll have PowerPC emulation, but
the right time-frame to expect it is around the end of this year.
We're focusing more on getting the word out on our existing technology
than on adding features, but that won't remain the case much longer.
William> I have to say Executor is appealing in that it does not
William> require Apple ROMs though....
Indeed. I believe that's what makes our business plan viable,
although others may disagree.
William> -- William Burrow Copyright 1999 William Burrow Beware of
William> anti-spam -- edit the Reply-To.
Regards,
Cliff Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Founder,
ARDI
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Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 08:18:16 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Shadow Passwords (KDE Screensavers need suid)
David Steuber wrote:
>
> Message from KDE:
>
> Your system uses shadow passwords!
> Please contact your system administrator.
>
> Tell him, that you need suid for the screensavers!
>
> I am my own system administrator. What the hell do I do? I know
> there is a simple command to fix this, but I can't remember what it
> is. I haven't been able to find it through the documentation
> (apropos, whatis, etc).
>
I guess you are using SuSE, is that not so?
If it is so, you just have to set the permissions to 'easy' (in Yast
under security options or something similar). Then you do
chmod a+s $(locate '*.kss')
in bash and you'll be fine.
Marc Mutz
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From: "Derek S. Smigelski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: X Windows Set-up Problems
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 23:42:32 -0500
Les,
the command would be rpm -ivh <name of rpm>.rpm
Derek
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <7gljcf$3m7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Les,
>
>I haven't seen a response so I'll give this one shot. First,
>
>mkdir /mnt/win98
>
>You need to access your hard drive at the prompt type:
>
>mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win98/ (assuming hda1 is the location of Win98)
>
>locate the directory your files are in and cp them to a temp directory in
>Linux.
>
>For each rpm, do
>
>rpm -U --force filename
>
>DDR
>
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Les Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I have a video card that is not supported in the version of Xfree86 that
>> shipped with Redhat 5.2. I downloaded the latest XSVGA and(3.3.3.1-1
>> Xfree86 files from the Redhat web site onto my Windows 98 drive.
>>
>> Can anybody provide me information on how to transfer these files from
>> WIN 98 drive onto my second, linux RH 5.2 formatted drive on my Dell
>> Dimension XPS T500 PIII computer and decompress and install these
>> updates into my existing linux setup. Any help will be greatly
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Les
>>
>>
>
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From: Michael Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (was: Wanted: Database/Contact
mgr with backend on Linux/FreeBSD, web frontend)
Date: 06 May 1999 01:41:43 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Thomas Keto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I really hate to see Unix and Unix software marketed like single user
> > operating systems.
>
> Why not? That's what they are, at least from the demographics figures. The
> number of Unix workstations _far_ outnumbers the number of servers. The same
> was not true ten or probably even five years ago, but it's true today.
The only thing I'd disagree with here is that, if a system is marketed as
a "single-user" system, then development will inevitably follow in that
direction -- optimizing the system for single-user, developing single-user
oriented applications, or whatever the case may be.
Don't take my word for it, but marketing is a pretty powerful thing.
--
Michael Maxwell <drwho @ xnet.com> | http://www.xnet.com/~drwho/
-- Stop the illegal attacks on Serbia NOW! --
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From: Roy Varghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux E-mail sending me NT stuff?
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 05:27:25 GMT
In article <JK6Y2.5984$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Raul Trujillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is anybody subcribed to any Linux e-mail? I am and received an e-mail
> saying I could win an NT box worth about $4500. Is Micro$oft buying Linux
> or what?
>
> Lates...
>
>
I recieved that too, but when I did check the site, turned out that all the
content was actually anti-Microsoft and anti-Windows.
Nice gimmick to lure Windows fans and give them a dose of the anti-Microsoft
propaganda. Looks like someone is taking a lot of pain to 'convert' . Does the
Linux world really need this ? I thought it was a natural winner.
:-)
-Roy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: A Simple Question
Date: 6 May 1999 01:42:09 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Wa;t wrote:
> how can I search a
> filesystem for files meeting a particular patten (e.g. ending with
> "sql"), which contain a particular string ("crdb")? I can't seem to
> convince grep to do anything except search the current directory, and
> find doesn't seem to have an option to look for a string within a file.
You need both of them, plus "xargs". E.g.,
$ find /filesystem/root -name '*sql' -print | xargs grep crdb /dev/null
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 20:54:13 -0700
From: "Wa;t" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A Simple Question
Hello-
After beating my head against the wall for an hour, I'd like to pose a
very straightforward question to linux users: how can I search a
filesystem for files meeting a particular patten (e.g. ending with
"sql"), which contain a particular string ("crdb")? I can't seem to
convince grep to do anything except search the current directory, and
find doesn't seem to have an option to look for a string within a file.
I know this must be simple, I just can't get it to work.
Thanks in advance for any information & assistance.
wm
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From: "Theo van der Merwe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Printer setup problem
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 07:58:50 +0200
How do I diagnose printer problems on a HP 1100 laserjet? The command lpr
gives lp: not found and something like cat filename.txt >/dev/lp1 does
nothing. I am using Redhat 5.2, but the setup may not be correct.
Thanks in advance for your help,
Theo van der Merwe ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Roy Varghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A Simple Question
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 05:38:17 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Wa;t" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello-
> After beating my head against the wall for an hour, I'd like to pose a
> very straightforward question to linux users: how can I search a
> filesystem for files meeting a particular patten (e.g. ending with
> "sql"), which contain a particular string ("crdb")? I can't seem to
> convince grep to do anything except search the current directory, and
> find doesn't seem to have an option to look for a string within a file.
> I know this must be simple, I just can't get it to work.
> Thanks in advance for any information & assistance.
>
> wm
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
Type the exact string below
find / -name "*sql" -exec grep "crdb" {} \; | more
Hope that helps
-Roy
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From: "Tim Wise" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS Exchange and Linux
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 16:58:45 +1000
You should be able to access your Mail on and Exchange Server with any POP3
or
IMAP 4 client providing the Internet Mail service has been installed. (And
configured correctly,
turning off smtp routing, an anti-spam measure will also leave POP3 and
IMAP4 clients stranded.)
OR
You could get your administrator to install the Microsoft Outlook Web Access
component of
Exchange and you can then access just about everything with a web browser.
This is the approach
I've taken, works quite well with Linux and Netscape Communicator.
Exchange Server actually is not a bad bit of plumbing, although the sight of
an error message
"your information store is corrupted" makes the blood run cold.
A system based on open standards has lot to recommend it.
BTW: Anyone know a good Web based email system using Apache and Qmail?
T. Wise
Ken Williams wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeff Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>>Does anyone know if someone is working on a Linux client for MS=20
>>Exchange? My company is going to Exchange in the near future and I=20
>>would really like to divorce myself permanently from Windows...
>
>There isn't anything like Exchange for Linux, but its just a pop client, so
>you can use anything. You won't be able see ms post office messages with
>another client though, but the post office is waste because of E-mail now.
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From: Mihaly Gyulai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where to put libjpeg.so , libpng.so files ?
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 06:51:12 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ah, so it�s _rpm_ that complains, not _amaya_. Sorry, that wasn�t
> clear from your post.
I'm sorry not to include important information... :(
> > 'libjpeg.so.62: ELF file data encoding not little-endian'
> > What's the problem now ?
> Now where does that libjpeg.so.62 come from?
I don't know for sure... I searched for it and found somewhere...
Can it be made for other platforms ??
> Would it be possible that amaya installed
> its own (probably big-endian) libjpeg, overwriting your (little-endian)
> libjpeg in the process?
No. 'amaya' did not install its own, it required those libs pre-installed...
> What does �ldd amaya� say?
The same error message : 'ELF file ... no little-endian'
> Do other programs linked again libjpeg still work?
I don't know. How can I check it ? What other programs do you think ?
> Is there any error message when running �ldconfig -v�
No error.
> Do a �find / -name "libjpeg*"� and look for duplicate/bogus libs.
No bogus links. 'libjpeg' and 'libpng' appear only once.
> Check with �strings amaya | grep jpeg� and �strings amaya | grep /lib�.
No hard-coded directory names... 'libjpeg.so' and 'libpng.so' appear ...
> Ummm ... coming to think of it, you�re not running Linux on an Alpha,
> Mac, Amiga or some other non-Intel processor by chance, are you?
No. I use a genuine Intel Pentium CPU.
--
Mihaly Gyulai
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From: "Wai Fai, Yee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Will appreciate any help with routing
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 05:55:56 GMT
Hello all,
I have the following setup and something is missing here.
Linux Box
--------
eth1 (192.168.125.3) | | eth0 ---> COX
--------
|
|
|
| NT Box
----
HUB | | --------- eth0 (192.168.125.2)
----
I can ping 192.168.125.3 from the Linux box and get a respond. I
can also ping 192.168.125.2 from the NT Box and get a respond. I can
also
ping the COX cable DNS servers and gateway from the Linux box and get a
respond but I cannot ping the NT box from the Linux box or vice versa -
it is as if 192.168.125.2 and 192.168.125.3 are not seeing each other. I
have tried for 2 nights various route commands without success. What I
am
I doing wrong. Have also attempted www.searchlinux.com and dejanew
without
success. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keven R. Pittsinger)
Subject: Re: Linux damaging hardware through kernel patch????
Date: 6 May 1999 05:46:31 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (TurkBear) writes:
> Shaun Schembri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>A few days ago I posted a message about a problem I recently came
>>through. I thank everybody who helped both my this newsgroups and by
>>mail
>>
>>But one of the messages made me think. Here is the message as sent by
>>Mr. Lew Pitcher.
>>
>>Actually, a Microsoft programmer surreptitiously introduced a patch to
>>the
>
>>2.0
>
> Bunch
>
>skipped..................................................................................
>
> Mr Pitcher has been looking for the black helicopters for too long....
>
> Actually the code that MS inserted generates a Alpha wave modulator that
> immediately reduces your IQ by 100 points - at that point you will decide that
> Windows is actually a superior OS and abandon your installation of Linux.....
>
>
> Remember even paranoids have real enemies.....
>
>
> Have fun.....
Just remember to wear your nifty new tinfoil hat and you'll be safe from
Micro$oft's orbital mind control lasers.
Keven
--
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In Reavers' Deep
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From: Roy Varghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ICQ Java alternative
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 05:41:37 GMT
ICQ Java for Linux sucks. Anybody know which is the best alternative
for it ? I need features and I need stablilty and I need a small memory
footprint!!
Asking for the moon? : ))
-Roy
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From: o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s (david parsons)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: The Best Linux distribution? (was Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux)
Date: 5 May 1999 23:28:54 -0700
In article <7gqf5p$c8a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <7gpuiv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s (david parsons) wrote:
>
>> No it isn't; it's following the logic that if the software ships
>> with the system it goes into /usr/bin, leaving /usr/local for,
>> umm, locally installed software.
>
>Correct. Thanks for pointing that out.
>
>Now.. why did it take me baiting you [and everyone else] with a troll post for
>you to write that? Where were you when a previous poster was claiming that
>FreeBSD installing software into /usr/local/bin was "wrong"?
Because you followed up before I did, and you were far more frothing
than the previous poster was.
____
david parsons \bi/ Targets of opportunity, doncha know.
\/
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From: Marcus Siegl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Xdm on startup?
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 08:04:53 +0200
Hi Gordon
> In your /etc/inittab file change the startup level from 3 to 5 and change
> the startup execution to xdm. I can't recall the precise details (responding
> from a Windows system) but it should be self evident once you are in the
> inittab file.
This is not for SUSE. At a suse-system you have to change the Line
id:2:initdefault:
to
id:3:initdefault:
in /etc/inirttab
> >I know it's a stupid question... But how do I run Xdm on
> >startup??
Bye
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