Linux-Misc Digest #79, Volume #24                 Sat, 8 Apr 00 15:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Athlon and Linux? (Aaron Walker)
  Re: Cryptic startup error (missing init) (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Athlon and Linux? (Rod Smith)
  Re: Converting Mac Word 4 and PICT files to HTML/JPG or GIF on Linux ("dabs")
  Re: Less Memory Use After startx (Dances With Crows)
  Re: PS/2 to Serial Mouse Converter (Dances With Crows)
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (fungus)
  Re: Error Messages (Jeff Grossman)
  How did the hacker get root access to my system? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: How did the hacker get root access to my system? (The Scotts)

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From: Aaron Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Athlon and Linux?
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 13:14:44 -0400

A couple of questions...

I am thinking about buying an Athlon 700 and was wondering how it worked
with Linux.  Right now I am running RH on an AMD K6-2 233 and it runs
perfect, but a friend of mine said it ran kinda slow with his Athlon
600, so I wanted to get others' opinions also.

Also, I need to get a new AGP video card to go with that Athlon and was
wondering which kind works good with Linux and is a good card.  I don't
need a 3D accelerator like Voodoo or anything, just something that is
AGP and has 8Megs of memory and easily does 24-bit color in 1600x1200.

Thanks,
Aaron

--
"You smoke your head on strait, then drink your woes away..." - Phil
Anselmo



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Cryptic startup error (missing init)
Date: 08 Apr 2000 13:26:37 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 8 Apr 2000 09:02:05 -0400, Deterrant 
<<8cnakp$u9v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>For no apparent reason, whenever I now start up my Linux box, I get the
>error message
>"Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel"
>I don't know what could have inspired this, but I also have no idea how to
>fix it. 

Tried "linux init=/bin/sh"?  This will drop you to a bash prompt, assuming
that /bin/bash still exists, and assuming you know enough to fix whatever
went wrong from a bash prompt.  What, exactly, were you doing right before 
this happened for the first time?  Did you turn the computer off without
shutting it down gracefully with "shutdown -h"?  Did you Read The Fine
Manual that Caldera sent you to see what they say about errors like this?

I don't have any boot disks or the like, except for the one that
>installs my version of Caldera OpenLinux 2.3. 

That was a silly thing to do.  During installation, every Linux distro has
an option called "Make a boot disk" or something similar.  Most modern
Linux distros have an option to "start rescue system" if you boot from the
first CD.  The rescue system can save you from situations like this.

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.

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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Athlon and Linux?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 17:32:47 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Aaron Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> A couple of questions...
> 
> I am thinking about buying an Athlon 700 and was wondering how it worked
> with Linux.  Right now I am running RH on an AMD K6-2 233 and it runs
> perfect, but a friend of mine said it ran kinda slow with his Athlon
> 600, so I wanted to get others' opinions also.

I just upgraded from a Cyrix M-II 333 (266MHz) to an Athlon 650 and have
had no problems. Both SuSE 6.3 and Corel 1.0 booted up fine the first
time. The system is MUCH faster than it had been before, but I can't speak
to speed vs. under Windows, since I've yet to boot Windows after the
upgrade (I'm kind of afraid that Windows will toss its cookies, as it
usually does at the slightest provocation).

FWIW, I bought an Athlon 650, fan (I ordered an Athlon fan, the box says
it's a Pentium-II fan, but it works fine), and ASUS K7M motherboard with
audio. The audio works fine with the latest ALSA drivers, but the kernel
OSS drivers only support 8-bit sound with this sound chipset. The only
glitch I've encountered is that the kernel doesn't auto-detect the 128MB
of RAM I've got; it gives me only 64MB unless I tell it I've got 128MB by
adding the following line to /etc/lilo.conf:

append = "mem=128m"

This is an ASUS K7M issue, not an Athlon issue. It's conceivable a
motherboard BIOS upgrade would fix it, but I've not yet looked into that.

I've yet to try installing Linux from scratch on this box; both my SuSE
and my Corel installations were done when the machine had the Cyrix CPU. I
plan to install Red Hat 6.2 before too long, though, perhaps tomorrow....

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration

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From: "dabs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Converting Mac Word 4 and PICT files to HTML/JPG or GIF on Linux
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 19:18:04 +0200

Marry An,

There is a product called MacLink Translator. Its from dataviz the last time
I checked. It converts almost every file type on the mac to PC and visa
versa. Take a shot at that.

Greetz,
Dabs

Mary-Anne G. Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have a disk of files in MSWord 4 format on a Mac IIsi running System
> 6.  (System 7 would be too slow for this machine, but I can borrow a
> System 7 Mac if necessary.)  The Word 4 files contain pictures in what
> I assume to be Mac PICT format, pasted by way of the Mac Scrapbook.
> I also have the same pictures in UltraPaint format, which is where
> I created them.
>
> I want these files to end up in HTML format with JPG or GIF pictures
> on a Redhat 6.1 Linux machine.  I can move these using a DOS format
> floppy or other solutions, but the format conversion is the real
> issue here.
>
> Sun's StarOffice won't open Mac Word 4 files at all; the dialog says
> it will open PICT files, but that has never worked for me.
>
> I also have access to a Win95 laptop, and Verity's Keyview Pro on that
> machine will open the Word 4 + PICT files, but its bulk conversion
> functionality won't work, so I have to deal with files one at a time.
> (It says all files encountered an error, but won't tell me what the
> error is.)  Even its bulk conversion is too lame to handle dropping a
> folder/directory on it.  Besides, I'd rather have something that runs
> on the Linux box.
>
> Yahoo.com doesn't have file format conversion as a category.  I looked
> where they put AbbotSys's CanOpener (a Mac file conversion product I
> have heard of but not tried) and Keyview Pro, and it was not in the
> same place, which surprised me.
>
> Does anyone know of a good solution?  I am willing to buy software if
> it is not terribly expensive.  Would WordPerfect for Linux do a better
> job at importing?  Would CanOpener on System 7 do this conversion in
> bulk?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mary-Anne Wolf
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> P.S. I would have copied Sun on this article too, but they do not
> publish a suitable StarOffice support email address on their web site.
> Sun, if you want to use this as proof of demand for better import
> filters, please do.
> @--------------------



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Less Memory Use After startx
Date: 08 Apr 2000 13:39:37 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 8 Apr 2000 21:37:21 +0800, T.F.Lai 
<<8cncem$14s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I'll be appreciate if anyone can help me to solve this out. Because I'm
>encountered strange problem.
>Everything is work fine, but the only thing I check my memory status using
>gtop/top command after startup X-Windows, it shown :
>     Mem:   63124K av,  61576K used,   1548K free,  46612K shrd,   1560K
>     Swap:  48152K av,   2456K used,  45696K free   22672K cached
>In fact, I never open any additional program like big program like browser
>or graphics tools.

1. X uses a lot of memory.
2. Linux uses all the memory that processes aren't actively using for a
disk cache.
3. Therefore, when you run X, you will see the amount of memory reported
by "free" shrink to about 1500-2200K.
4. This will happen to you even without X--try compiling a large program
in text mode, and top will report the same thing as gtop did.
5. Why are you worried about this if everything's working fine?

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: PS/2 to Serial Mouse Converter
Date: 08 Apr 2000 13:53:08 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 08 Apr 2000 13:33:02 GMT, Polat 
<<8cncee$cph$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I have a serial mouse and an external serial modem,
>but just one serial port. I have bought a PS/2 to Serial converter
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ok, if you have a serial mouse and you bought a PS/2 to serial converter,
then there's your problem.  You need a serial-to-PS/2 converter!

>, but Neither Linux nor Windows doesnt detect it.

Double negative=positive, so again, where's the problem?

Seriously, the problem may be in the mouse itself.  Some mice are only
serial-compatible, not PS/2 compatible--the data packets that are
transmitted from the mouse are different between serial and PS/2 mice.
Some mice are capable of switching between two protocols intelligently.
Tried holding one of the mouse buttons down upon bootup?  Tried all the
various mouse protocols available under Linux, using /dev/psaux as the
mouse device?  Also make sure the onboard mouse port is enabled in the
machine's BIOS.

If all else fails, 2-button PS/2 mice are getting very cheap; $10 US or
so new and much less at garage sales.

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.

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From: fungus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 17:54:14 GMT



Otto wrote:
> 
> >    http://x25.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=282694102
> 
> The link produces a 404 error, evidently the urban legend what you were
> referencing no longer exists.
> 

No it doesn't, but Netscape messes it up. Try this one:

http://x25.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=282694102


> You call it ignorance and in actuality it is a smart business
> decision. Some people don't have unlimited budget for software.
> When people don't need to pay $700.00 on the top of the NT
> server price, then it is conceivable that they are "getting
> something for free".
>

Nope. There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. The
development costs for that software will be passed along
to the users somewhere down the line, normally unfairly.

It's just another example of the way MS uses its monopoly
power. It gives something away for "free" in one place
in order to gain market share, but passes the costs on
to the people in a different place (eg. Hike the price
of every Windows 98 by 10 cents to cover it).
 

> Every company, which ever developed anything, will recuperate
> the cost of the R & D. Microsoft is not different in that
> respect.
>

But other companies are forced to recoup the costs by
actually *selling the product*.

Do you really fail to see the difference?
 
> Would you care to elaborate as to why the price of the Windows9x
> has not changed since 1995?

Yes it has. They put the price of Windows 95 up when Windows
98 was released. Windows 98 was cheap because they didn't
actually put a lot of R&D into it, it's just Windows 95
with a makeover.

Remember that they developed the whole of Windows 95 in
the same timeframe as they did the makeover to produce
Windows 98. This is stagnation of technology, and more
evidence of somebody who doesn't need to work hard to keep
their customers.


-- 
<\___/>
/ O O \
\_____/  FTB.

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From: Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Error Messages
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 10:14:54 -0700

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve) wrote:

>On Fri, 07 Apr 2000 19:35:26 -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote:
>>How can I find out what service is giving me the following error:
>
>>Apr  7 06:46:53 apple inetd[520]: pid 20915: exit signal 13
>>Apr  7 06:53:07 apple inetd[520]: pid 21048: exit signal 14
>
>From the signal(7) manpage:
>
>  SIGPIPE      13        A      Broken pipe: write to pipe with no readers
>  SIGALRM      14        A      Timer signal from alarm(2)
>
>These aren't so much error messages as information messages telling
>you how inetd was interupted.  I'd ask what methods you're using to
>kill your internet connection.  Have a bit of an overhaul of your
>internet connection settings and make sure everything is correct, 
>messages like this may mean that you've missed something out 
>somewhere.
>
>A good idear might be to make an internet connection, 
>do a few of the things that you'd normally do, and along
>the way get a process list to file:  
>
>$ ps -aux >myproclistXXX.txt  ## XXX is a number 001 etc.
>
>Then after you've finished using the net compare your message
>list and the myproclistXXX.txt files to see what it is that's 
>causing the messages.  

I don't kill my internet connection.  I am connected 24/7.  So, not
sure what is killing my inetd.

Thanks.
---
Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.2600,alt.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: How did the hacker get root access to my system?
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 17:55:43 GMT

This is a follow up to thread "Re: Hacker in my system. Help?" on
alt.2600

I'm trying to determine how a hacker got into my Linux 6.1 server and
would love some help.

I have determined that the hacker must have had root access. He
installed some IRC bot garbage, and prior to that I can see he
installed oidentd-1.6.4 on March 30th (I'm not entirely sure what that
is or what it does). That's where I am fairly sure he had root access,
because in /var/tmp there is the original oidentd tar file, and the
untarred directory with the source code he used to install it. Both
with owner / group of root.

At around the same time, I see these interesting things in my mail log:

maillog.1:Mar 28 08:31:03 server sendmail[17631]: IAA17631:
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=4494, class=-100, pri=214494, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP,
relay=wodc7-1.corprelay.mail.uu.net [192.48.96.68]

Prior to that:

maillog.3:Mar 14 21:24:32 server sendmail[773]: VAA00773:
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=617, class=0, pri=30617, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP,
relay=IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [24.1.13.240]

Is it likely that he exploited a security hole in Sendmail? Does anyone
know of a security breach in sendmail that will allow someone to gain
root access to a Linux 6.1 machine?

I've since nuked all this crap of his, and I have ripped out sendmail.
Inetd is being removed (and imap is out) if I can get the qmail popd
stuff working using daemontools.

Any clues and other security advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: The Scotts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.2600
Subject: Re: How did the hacker get root access to my system?
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 18:34:19 +0000

(newsgroups trimmed)

I'm no expert, but if a hacker got root access you need to reformat and
reinstall from virgin sources.  Suggest using the latest versions of
everything, including RH6.2 (assume you refer to RH 6.1 as "Linux
6.1").  Refer to RH's Updates and Errata pages often and install the
upgrades.  Running a server implies also you need to run ipchains. 
Suggest reviewing the security Howto.

Bob Scott

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> This is a follow up to thread "Re: Hacker in my system. Help?" on
> alt.2600
> 
> I'm trying to determine how a hacker got into my Linux 6.1 server and
> would love some help.
> 
> I have determined that the hacker must have had root access. He
> installed some IRC bot garbage, and prior to that I can see he
> installed oidentd-1.6.4 on March 30th (I'm not entirely sure what that
> is or what it does). That's where I am fairly sure he had root access,
> because in /var/tmp there is the original oidentd tar file, and the
> untarred directory with the source code he used to install it. Both
> with owner / group of root.
> 
> At around the same time, I see these interesting things in my mail log:
> 
> maillog.1:Mar 28 08:31:03 server sendmail[17631]: IAA17631:
> from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=4494, class=-100, pri=214494, nrcpts=1,
> msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP,
> relay=wodc7-1.corprelay.mail.uu.net [192.48.96.68]
> 
> Prior to that:
> 
> maillog.3:Mar 14 21:24:32 server sendmail[773]: VAA00773:
> from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=617, class=0, pri=30617, nrcpts=1,
> msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP,
> relay=IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [24.1.13.240]
> 
> Is it likely that he exploited a security hole in Sendmail? Does anyone
> know of a security breach in sendmail that will allow someone to gain
> root access to a Linux 6.1 machine?
> 
> I've since nuked all this crap of his, and I have ripped out sendmail.
> Inetd is being removed (and imap is out) if I can get the qmail popd
> stuff working using daemontools.
> 
> Any clues and other security advice would be greatly appreciated.

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