Linux-Misc Digest #80, Volume #20 Thu, 6 May 99 06:13:14 EDT
Contents:
Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage (Chris Costello)
Re: how to get in net via linux (jik-)
how to get in net via linux ("Patrik")
Re: DHCP server for Linux? (Glen Turner)
Q:compiling c++ codes that contains templates (Richard)
Hidden files - Linux setup (Alessandro Magni)
Re: CTRL-S (David Bullock)
bsd_tcp ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Kernel 2.2.7 (Tim Moore)
Re: A Simple Question (jason)
Re: RedHat 6.0 or SuSe 6.1? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: users again >:( ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ?Windows NT dialup to Linux PPP server? (jianhong)
Re: Hidden files - Linux setup (Todd Ostermeier)
Re: printer doesnt print (parport-troubles ?) (Michael Powe)
Re: Q:compiling c++ codes that contains templates ("D. Vrabel")
Re: Q:compiling c++ codes that contains templates (Richard)
Re: 'screen' and dselect/lynx/mutt/slrn (terminfo?) (John E. Davis)
Re: 'screen' and dselect/lynx/mutt/slrn (terminfo?) ("T.E.Dickey")
SIOADDRT: invalid arguement during boot ("Ron")
Benchmark software for Linux? (Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah)
Re: Windows NT vs. Linux testing by mindcraft (Berend de Boer)
Microsoft Poison ver.99.77654666 beta ("Patrik")
netcfg and "no $DISPLAY variable" ("Sander Wissing")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Costello)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 06:09:35 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andrew Comech wrote:
> PS. Believe it or not, my computer runs as well after I remove "pentium inside"
> sticker; it just does not need that sticker to run!
That's just a warning label. At least it was back in the time
when the pentium had some serious problems with division.
>
> --
> Looking for a Linux-compatible V.90 modem? See
> http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem
--
Chris Costello
Avoid GOTOs completely if you can keep the program readable.
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Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 00:20:25 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to get in net via linux
Patrik wrote:
>
> how can i get on the internet through xwindow in Linux RH5.1??.
> thanks
> patrik
You don't. Use pppd and read the ISP-Hookup-HOWTO.
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From: "Patrik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to get in net via linux
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 15:20:37 +0800
how can i get on the internet through xwindow in Linux RH5.1??.
thanks
patrik
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Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 17:02:56 +0930
From: Glen Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DHCP server for Linux?
Azfar Kazmi wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Its amazing that I am unable to find a stable DHCP server for Linux! I found
> one at www.isc.org but they say it is partically funtional on Linux! DHCP
> being an important protocol, I believe there will be one for Linux. Where can
> I find it? I use Redhat distribution, if that matters.
The ISC DHCP works fine on Linux. To quote the ISC web page:
Linux: Full functionality with Linux 2.0.33 and later
kernels.
The problem related to Linux being able to send broadcasts
to 255.255.255.255. It would send them to the subnet
broadcast address instead, eg: 10.1.1.255 for subnet
10.1.1.0/24 (which is usually the superior and preferred
behaviour). This turned out to be an issue running
DHCP and Linux and ethernets with two subnets. Not
a typical or recommended configuration.
The ISC DHCP doesn't fully implement DHCP/DNS interaction
yet, but it is almost there. Especially if you run your
DNS and DHCP servers on the same machine.
Cheers,
Glen
--
Glen Turner Network Specialist
Tel: (08) 8303 3936 Information Technology Services
Fax: (08) 8303 4400 The University of Adelaide 5005
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] South Australia
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From: Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Q:compiling c++ codes that contains templates
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 00:36:23 -0700
As title says: How do I compile c++ codes that contains
templates?
I know that I have to use the flag -frepo when doing compilation.
But I just couldn't link the object files after that.
Help is greatly appreciated.
(I'm using SuSE Linux 6.0 with egcs-2.91.60 )
Thanks.
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From: Alessandro Magni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Hidden files - Linux setup
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 09:55:16 +0200
Been satisfied with Linux as my new OS, I decided to shrink even more
the Win98 partition that remains
on my disk (most for gaming purposes).
Unfortunately I discovered that, defragmenting it, I cannot gain the
space I hoped, because some hidden
file in the tail of the disk has not been moved.
Do you know of some program - under Win, Dos - able to display filename
& position on disk,
so that I can get rid of it?
Thank for your help
Alexxx
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Bullock)
Subject: Re: CTRL-S
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 07:39:43 GMT
I remember it from when I got started about 1980-1981. Every computer
I've ever had has implemented it ( Apples, Atari 8-bits, PC's ).
Control-S and Control-Q are the flow controls. Nowadays it's done in
hardware with CTS/RTS type signals, or out-of-band, but in the olden
days(tm) it was done in-band.
And yah I used it quite often on both of my 300bps modems ( 1030, and
XM301 - sigh - the good old days when you could trick a modem into
thinking you were another modem just by whistling at it...)
Dave
On Sat, 01 May 1999 16:45:27 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(William Wueppelmann) wrote:
>>Anybody know what this is for? Is it just for some sort of keyboard
>>capture or delayed command entry?
>
>It suspends and resumes flow to the terminal. IIRC, whatever you type gets
>put in a queue, and the terminal reads from the queue. When you suspend
>flow, the terminal stops reading from the queue, but the server can still
>keep filling the queue up. When you resume flow, the terminal continues to
>read.
>
>I assume that it was probably done originally so that you could pause a
>free scrolling display so you could read it a page at a time. Sort of a
>hardware implementation of more(1). Presumably, it's outlived its
>usefulness, since the speed at which data is output or transmitted is far
>to great to read without some kind of software pager. But I seem to
>remember reading text over 300 and 1200 baud modem connections and using
>the same sort of pause feature, where you'd let a screenful of data appear
>on your screen (1200 baud is slow enough that it takes a few seconds to
>fill an entire screen), then turn the flow off, read what was there, turn
>the flow back on, and then let it continue with the next screenful. Or, if
>you were just skimming the text, at 1200 baud you could basically let it
>free scroll.
>
>Of course, that was a long time ago, and maybe I'm remembering things
>differently from what they really were.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: bsd_tcp
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 08:38:01 GMT
Somehow I've managed to remove bsd_tcp from my system. Net result is an
unresolved symbol error when I try to execute XF86Setup. Can anyone tell me
what kernal mods are required or where bsd_tcp resides?
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Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 00:43:01 -0700
From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,linux.act.kernel,linux.redhat.misc,linux.sources.kernel
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.7
also http://www.linuxhq.com/
--
Direct replies to username 'timothymoore'
"Everything is permitted. Nothing is forbidden."
WS Burroughs.
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From: jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A Simple Question
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 05:00:50 -0400
Roy Varghese wrote:
>
> Type the exact string below
>
> find / -name "*sql" -exec grep "crdb" {} \; | more
One thing I find annoying about grep is that when given just one
filename, it doesn't report the filename being matched at the
beginning of the line. This is only annoying when used in find
operations like the one above, since in most cases you want to know
the filename it matched. For example,
% grep foo file1
This sentence contains foo.
% grep foo file1 file2
file1: This sentence contains foo.
file2: Be somebody or be somebody's fool.
%
There are two (maybe more) ways around this. Either one of the
following will do:
find / -name "*sql" -print -exec grep "crdb" {} \; | more
(prints each matched filename before grepping it)
or
find / -name "*sql" -exec grep "crdb" {} {} \; | more
(passes two identical arguments to grep, tricking it into printing
out the desired filename in front of its output)
Hope I didn't confuse anyone,
-jason
(to reply via email, make the appropriate substitution in my email address)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.0 or SuSe 6.1?
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 07:24:33 GMT
It's just a question of religion :-)
I believe you'd use SuSe because Yast is the best setup-tool imO.
Effi
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) wrote:
> On Wed, 5 May 1999 21:11:58 -0500,
> Derek S. Smigelski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have both which is better??
>
> Which is better, chocolate or strawberry?
>
> --
> Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
> Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
> Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
> Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: users again >:(
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 11:02:16 +0200
'lo ..
there's also a little tool called ku to kill users ...
perhaps it works when they're not logged on as well ..
You can find it on http://freshmeat.net
Mark Robinson wrote:
>
> I have a who that reports 13 users on. But only 1 or 2 are actually
> on. So these ghost users (they are real accounts) are consuming sys
> resources, but running ps aux shows nothing run by them. I have 2.2 on
> a sys that is fully compliant of 2.2, runing RH5.2.
>
> Is there a way to get rid of said users without rebooting?
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From: jianhong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: ?Windows NT dialup to Linux PPP server?
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 01:09:46 -0700
Hi, Richard,
Thanks a lot for your tips.
Windows NT dialup does send out "CLIENT" first, as I can see from
`minicom` on the Linux box. However, when I added
CLIENT SERVER
to the chatscript file, the ppp server on the Linux still failed with
the following error,
Connect script failed.
The pppd was activated by,
`pppd ttyS0 19200 -detach -chap -pap crtscts connect "chat -v -f chatscript"`
and the chatscript file has only one line,
CLIENT SERVER
What was I missing? The dialup on the Windows NT was using all the default
parameters.
Thanks for your help again. Jianhong
========================================================
Richard Birchall wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> jianhong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to network my laptop(Slackware Linux 3.5) with my
> > desktop (Windows NT 4.0 SP3) through a Null Modem Cable.
> > The problem is I can't get the Windows NT dialup to work with the
> > Linux PPP server. NT dialup complained that "there is an error with
> > the modem or other device", while the PPPD complained that
> > "LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests,
> > Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean:
> > Problem: all had bit 7 set to 1"
>
> Your NT box has to send 'CLIENT\n' and the Linux box has to respond 'SERVER'.
>
> This handshaking is required by NT RAS for null modem connections.
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard
>
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From: Todd Ostermeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Hidden files - Linux setup
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 03:16:58 -0500
Get Noron's Disk Doctor. It will move the hidden files for you (make sure
you set up the options properly). You can get a free trial for it, and
use that.
On Thu, 6 May 1999, Alessandro Magni wrote:
:
: Been satisfied with Linux as my new OS, I decided to shrink even more
: the Win98 partition that remains
: on my disk (most for gaming purposes).
: Unfortunately I discovered that, defragmenting it, I cannot gain the
: space I hoped, because some hidden
: file in the tail of the disk has not been moved.
:
: Do you know of some program - under Win, Dos - able to display filename
: & position on disk,
: so that I can get rid of it?
:
: Thank for your help
:
:
: Alexxx
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Subject: Re: printer doesnt print (parport-troubles ?)
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 06 May 1999 00:35:26 -0700
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>>>>> "peter" == peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
peter> redhat5.2 kernel 2.2.5 parallel port-printer canon-bj200
peter> I set the printerport to 378/irq7 in bios and mode=EPP/SPP
peter> parport and parport_pc are compiled as modules
peter> so I perform: # insmod parport.o # insmod parport_pc.o
peter> io=0x378 irq=7 (the printer "awakes" at this point by
peter> making its usual noise)
Check this:
(Linux 2.2.7) [root] [ ~]
55 $ --> cat /proc/parport/0/hardware
base: 0x378
irq: 7
dma: none
modes: SPP,ECP,ECPPS2
And you should see these lines in your boot messages:
parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7 [SPP,ECP,ECPPS2]
[ ... ]
lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).
You may need to add the following to your boot information in
/etc/lilo.conf:
append = "parport=0x378,7 lp=parport0"
This sets up the printer at boot. I believe you will find most of the
information you need in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/parport.txt.
mp
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Q:compiling c++ codes that contains templates
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 08:59:02 +0100
On Thu, 6 May 1999, Richard wrote:
> As title says: How do I compile c++ codes that contains
> templates?
> I know that I have to use the flag -frepo when doing compilation.
> But I just couldn't link the object files after that.
-frepo is an switch for older gcc's. Leave it out and you'll be able to
compile template stuff.
> (I'm using SuSE Linux 6.0 with egcs-2.91.60 )
David
--
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
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From: Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Q:compiling c++ codes that contains templates
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 01:26:35 -0700
"D. Vrabel" wrote:
>
> On Thu, 6 May 1999, Richard wrote:
>
> > As title says: How do I compile c++ codes that contains
> > templates?
> > I know that I have to use the flag -frepo when doing compilation.
> > But I just couldn't link the object files after that.
> -frepo is an switch for older gcc's. Leave it out and you'll be able to
> compile template stuff.
>
Well, I found this flag (-frepo) when I failed to do separate
compilation
of a template class. If I put the definitions of member functions
together with
the template class in one file, the program compiles, but if I separete
them
to one header file and one .cc file, the compilation would fail with
some message
like:
richard/ta> g++ outs.cc testdriver.cc
/tmp/ccoZK5kR.o: In function `main':
/tmp/ccoZK5kR.o(.text+0x19): undefined reference to
`Outs<int>::show(void)'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> > (I'm using SuSE Linux 6.0 with egcs-2.91.60 )
>
> David
> --
> David Vrabel
> Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
---
Richard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John E. Davis)
Crossposted-To: comp.terminals
Subject: Re: 'screen' and dselect/lynx/mutt/slrn (terminfo?)
Date: 6 May 1999 08:32:31 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 5 May 1999 13:22:44 GMT, Jeffrey Altman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>There is only one problem with this rationale, most of the terminal
>designs were implemented in hardware and in order for software to
>emulate them properly the software must do exactly what the hardware
>did.
However, this does not prevent the software from providing some
mode to workaround a bad design.
>There are few terminals that actually implement "erase with default
>color". The QNX console is one example, older Xterm implementations
>are another. Many of the so called "ANSI"* terminals (SCOANSI, AT386,
>...) implement both and can be toggled between the two modes with:
>
> Set Fill Mode
> CSI = Ps L
> Ps = 0, use current color
> Ps = 1, use default color
Does this have a terminfo/termcap equivalent?
>Now I completely agree that "erasing with the default color" makes
>screen optimization must more difficult. However, it is a feature of
>many terminals and since terminals do not go away it should be
>supported. 'screen' implemented it years ago, while it might not be
>very efficient it can't be very hard.
My development version of slang handles terminals that do not have the
bce capability, and it was not difficult to implement. I was
reluctant to add support for such terminals because I do not want to
encourage their use.
--John
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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 'screen' and dselect/lynx/mutt/slrn (terminfo?)
Crossposted-To: comp.terminals
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 09:18:43 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc John E. Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My development version of slang handles terminals that do not have the
> bce capability, and it was not difficult to implement. I was
> reluctant to add support for such terminals because I do not want to
> encourage their use.
well, as long as your idea of how non-bce is implemented matches the
assumptions in existing software, you won't be introducing any new
problems by releasing it.
--
Thomas E. Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey
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From: "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SIOADDRT: invalid arguement during boot
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 01:21:39 -0700
Can anyone explain where this error is coming from?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Benchmark software for Linux?
Date: 6 May 1999 15:54:08 +0800
Is there a benchmark software to test Linux systems? Thanks for any tip.
Napi
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From: Berend de Boer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Windows NT vs. Linux testing by mindcraft
Date: 6 May 1999 08:38:04 GMT
Stephen Montgomery-Smith schreef:
> As I recall, it was the 8086 that actually came out first, and I always
> thought that was why IBM chose that processor, because it was actually
> there rather than on the way. Generally, the IBM PC that came out seemed
> to combine the worst OS, with the worst 16 bit processor of that time,
> with the best marketing.
Best marketing I doubt. I think for the first time a large company made
a small computer, targeted especially at professional user. This did
attract developers, which did interest more businesses, which did
attract more developers, etc.
The applications which people used professionally, they also wanted to
use at home. So therefore the PC also become a home/game computer. M$
tries it, but if you compare a PC with Win98 with a real game computer,
the differences are still huge. Game stations still play a lot better,
lot more responsive.
Anyway, it's too easy to blame marketing. It's the applications which
make a platform interesting. Why do you think that FreeBSD and Linux are
becoming interesting platforms? Because of internet and email, both
tasks they handle extremely well compared to NT + Exchange.
To repeat: it's finally the applications that make a platform
interesting to a wider audience. We hackers might find a platform
interesting for itself, all other people not.
--
Groetjes,
Berend. (-:
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From: "Patrik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Microsoft Poison ver.99.77654666 beta
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:27:15 +0800
Hello, I am secretly writing this letter from a Microdoze program,
outlook express. i seek help in settling fast into my newly
acquired Linux RH5.1 and will get my hands on the latest
Linux, once i get the hang of it. But i fear i am running out of time,
having poisoned by Microdoze for almost a decade, i
discovered (as suggested by someone on this newsgroup), that
my IQ is most probably reduced to that of a Winmouse.
My buddy and i are seeking a new lease of life. Linux may be our
answer and we would appreciate if there is any Linux
crusader out there that can rescue us from being reduce to idiots.
We are going to bang our heads from here to Timbuktu, if
neccessary, just to be able to switch fully to Linux by 2001.
Help us.... i have pass the estimated time before
BILL's agents track us down............ohhhh..i think we better go.......
.......................fatal error #78113132da231das1we4QQ.....
you have done a clever thing, system is not programmed to handle
celver command. Illegal operations. Please click OK to reboot.
take note you will lose all unsaved information. Thank you
please download our new OfficeCrap 2000 at
www.stupiditytothelimit.com
.........
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From: "Sander Wissing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: netcfg and "no $DISPLAY variable"
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:33:05 +0200
Hi all,
I am running RedHat, 2.0.31 kernel and can't run netcfg. I get a
traceback ending in "no $DISPLAY variable". How do I set the
$DISPLAY variable and what do I set it to?
Thanks
Sander Wissing
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