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Re: newbie question (Arun Keswani)
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From: Arun Keswani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: newbie question
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 14:36:23 -0400
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Thanks for the prompt replies. I am new to Linux. I have worked on the
AIX platform, so I am getting used to the Linux commands. The ethernet
card sold under the name of ASIX Electronics, but the driver disk comes
from some F=ma corporation in Taiwan. At any rate it is a GFC2204
10/100 Fast Ethernet PCI Adapter with RJ 45 Connector. The driver
disk contains a Linux folder ,with the following files in it. ;
Ax88140.c C source file
Crc.h C header file
Readme.
I will attached the contents of the readme at the end of this message.
I guess there are a couple of things that I don't understand. If the disk
is DOS compatible, how should I get the file from my DOS partition
to my linux partition, and will it be readable in Linux ? The service
that I am using is AT&T @Home.
I have to admit, I am not sure how to add a kernel module for the card.
The card does use DHCP for Wins resolution undert 98, but I am not
sure exactly what that is . As you can see this is a real newbie question.
It is DHCP, as are most, and you better see "pump" in
a ps ax after you get eth0 fired up.
Thanks for all your help.
Arun
=========================
Linux Driver Installation
=========================
The GFC2204 driver is included in newer 2.0.3x kernels,
the driver name is "DECchip Tulip (dc21x4x)".
If you don't have a proper version of tulip.c,
the procedure to install this driver on linux:
step 1: compile:
"gcc -DMODVERSIONS -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -DAX88140_DEBUG=0 -m486
-I/usr/src/linux/net/inet -Wall -Wredundant-decls
-Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c ax88140.c"
run this instruction at /usr/src/linux, make sure
you have gcc and full kernel includes installed.
ignore any warnings, they are common in kernel code,
if any errors occur, remove the '-DMODVERSIONS' option,
then try again, if you still can't compile it correctly,
your kernel version is incompatible with this driver.
step 2: insert the driver as module:
insmod ax88140.o
parameter can be added by adding options=..... behind the instruction
(run 'lsmod' to see if the module is inserted)
step 3: bind your card to an IP address
/sbin/ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} broadcast ${BROADCAST} netmask ${NETMASK}
(run 'netstat -i' to see if there is a interface 'ne0')
step 4: add your card to IP routing table, then add gateway also
your card:
/sbin/route add -net ${NETWORK} netmask ${NETMASK} eth0
(should be able to ping local network now)
gateway:
/sbin/route add default gw ${GATEWAY} netmask 0.0.0.0 metric 1
step 5: start inet deamon.
/usr/sbin/inetd
(you are on the network now)
*make sure that your kernel is built with network, fast_ethernet and module
support. Otherwise, you have to rebuild your kernel.
(1:go to /usr/src/linux directory
2:run 'make menuconfig' or 'make config'
3:mark the options list above.
4:exit and rebuild your kernel.
make dep;make clean;make zImage
the file 'zImage' will be at /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage
5:modify /etc/lilo.conf.(this file specify where kernel image is)
6:run 'lilo' )
You can run 'netconfig' which will do step 3,4,5 for you. This will create
'/etc/rc.d/inet1' and 'inet2' files. These two files will run at boot time.
Then just add a line at the beginning of 'inet1'.
'insmod /your driver path/ax88140.o'
then your driver will work every time you boot.
The author may be reached as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ray wrote:
> Stephen J Howard wrote:
> >
> > Yup it means the kernel has not recognised your ethernet card. What type is
> > it? You could then run control-panel and manually insert the kernel module
> > for the card, then al should be well.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > Arun Keswani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > I recently acquired cable modem service. I use both Linux and Windows on
> > > my machine
> > > but the cable company does not support their product for Linux. I
> > > proceeded to try
> > > and setup the networking options under Linux. I put in all the
> > > information about
> > > ip addresses, gateways, dns (primary), dns(secondary), netmask etc, but
> > > i cannot get
> > > my machine to see the network.
> > >
> > > I tried using ifconfig, but when I use this option, it tells me that the
> > > device
> > > eth0 is not found. Does this mean that Linux (Redhat 6.0) is not
> > > recognizing
> > > my Ethernet card or that I have specified some settings incorrectly. Any
> > > help
> > > would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > a.
> > >
> > >
>
> Also, Let us know what cable service, RoadRunner is a snap, as there is
> no login process. It is DHCP, as are most, and you better see "pump" in
> a ps ax after you get eth0 fired up.
> --
> Raymond R. Jones
> The Computer Shop
> HTTP://GORDO.PENGUINPOWERED.COM
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks for the prompt replies. I am new to Linux. I have worked on the
<br>AIX platform, so I am getting used to the Linux commands. The ethernet
<br>card sold under the name of <b>ASIX Electronics, but the driver disk
comes</b>
<br><b>from some F=ma corporation in Taiwan. At any rate it is a GFC2204</b>
<br><b>10/100 Fast Ethernet PCI Adapter with RJ 45 Connector.</b>
The driver
<br>disk contains a Linux folder ,with the following files in it. ;
<br>Ax88140.c C source file
<br>Crc.h
C header file
<br>Readme.
<p>I will attached the contents of the readme at the end of this message.
<br>I guess there are a couple of things that I don't understand. If the
disk
<br>is DOS compatible, how should I get the file from my DOS partition
<br>to my linux partition, and will it be readable in Linux ? The service
<br>that I am using is<b> AT&T @Home.</b><b></b>
<p>I have to admit, I am not sure how to add a kernel module for the card.
<br>The card does use DHCP for Wins resolution undert 98, but I am not
<br>sure exactly what that is . As you can see this is a real newbie question.
<p><i>It is DHCP, as are most, and you better see "pump" in</i>
<br><i>a ps ax after you get eth0 fired up.</i><i></i>
<p>Thanks for all your help.
<p>Arun
<br>
<br>
<br><i></i> <i></i>
<p><i>=========================</i>
<br><i>Linux Driver Installation</i>
<br><i>=========================</i><i></i>
<p><i>The GFC2204 driver is included in newer 2.0.3x kernels,</i>
<br><i>the driver name is "DECchip Tulip (dc21x4x)".</i><i></i>
<p><i>If you don't have a proper version of tulip.c,</i>
<br><i>the procedure to install this driver on linux:</i><i></i>
<p><i> step 1: compile:</i>
<br><i> "gcc
-DMODVERSIONS -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -DAX88140_DEBUG=0 -m486</i>
<br><i>
-I/usr/src/linux/net/inet
-Wall -Wredundant-decls</i>
<br><i> -Wstrict-prototypes
-O6 -c ax88140.c"</i><i></i>
<p><i> run
this instruction at /usr/src/linux, make sure</i>
<br><i> you
have gcc and full kernel includes installed.</i>
<br><i> ignore
any warnings, they are common in kernel code,</i>
<br><i> if
any errors occur, remove the '-DMODVERSIONS' option,</i>
<br><i> then
try again, if you still can't compile it correctly,</i>
<br><i> your
kernel version is incompatible with this driver.</i><i></i>
<p><i> step 2: insert the driver as module:</i>
<br><i> insmod
ax88140.o</i>
<br><i> parameter
can be added by adding options=..... behind the instruction</i><i></i>
<p><i> (run 'lsmod' to see if
the module is inserted)</i><i></i>
<p><i> step 3: bind your card to an IP address</i><i></i>
<p><i> /sbin/ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} broadcast
${BROADCAST} netmask ${NETMASK}</i>
<br><i> (run 'netstat -i' to
see if there is a interface 'ne0')</i><i></i>
<p><i> step 4: add your card to IP routing table, then add gateway
also</i>
<br><i> your card:</i>
<br><i> /sbin/route
add -net ${NETWORK} netmask ${NETMASK} eth0</i>
<br><i> (should
be able to ping local network now)</i>
<br><i> gateway:</i>
<br><i> /sbin/route
add default gw ${GATEWAY} netmask 0.0.0.0 metric 1</i><i></i>
<p><i> step 5: start inet deamon.</i>
<br><i> /usr/sbin/inetd</i>
<br><i> (you
are on the network now)</i><i></i>
<p><i>*make sure that your kernel is built with network, fast_ethernet
and module</i>
<br><i> support. Otherwise, you have to rebuild your kernel.</i>
<br><i> (1:go to /usr/src/linux
directory</i>
<br><i> 2:run 'make menuconfig'
or 'make config'</i>
<br><i> 3:mark the options
list above.</i>
<br><i> 4:exit and rebuild
your kernel.</i>
<br><i>
make dep;make clean;make zImage</i>
<br><i> the
file 'zImage' will be at /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage</i>
<br><i> 5:modify /etc/lilo.conf.(this
file specify where kernel image is)</i>
<br><i> 6:run 'lilo'
)</i><i></i>
<p><i>You can run 'netconfig' which will do step 3,4,5 for you. This will
create</i>
<br><i>'/etc/rc.d/inet1' and 'inet2' files. These two files will run at
boot time.</i>
<br><i>Then just add a line at the beginning of 'inet1'.</i>
<br><i> 'insmod /your driver
path/ax88140.o'</i><i></i>
<p><i>then your driver will work every time you boot.</i><i></i>
<p><i>The author may be reached as [EMAIL PROTECTED]</i>
<p>Ray wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Stephen J Howard wrote:
<br>>
<br>> Yup it means the kernel has not recognised your ethernet card. What
type is
<br>> it? You could then run control-panel and manually insert the kernel
module
<br>> for the card, then al should be well.
<br>>
<br>> Cheers,
<br>>
<br>> Steve
<br>>
<br>> Arun Keswani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
<br>> <a href="news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a>...
<br>> > I recently acquired cable modem service. I use both Linux and Windows
on
<br>> > my machine
<br>> > but the cable company does not support their product for Linux.
I
<br>> > proceeded to try
<br>> > and setup the networking options under Linux. I put in all the
<br>> > information about
<br>> > ip addresses, gateways, dns (primary), dns(secondary), netmask
etc, but
<br>> > i cannot get
<br>> > my machine to see the network.
<br>> >
<br>> > I tried using ifconfig, but when I use this option, it tells me
that the
<br>> > device
<br>> > eth0 is not found. Does this mean that Linux (Redhat 6.0) is not
<br>> > recognizing
<br>> > my Ethernet card or that I have specified some settings incorrectly.
Any
<br>> > help
<br>> > would be greatly appreciated.
<br>> >
<br>> > a.
<br>> >
<br>> >
<p> Also, Let us know what cable
service, RoadRunner is a snap, as there is
<br>no login process. It is DHCP, as are most, and you better see "pump"
in
<br>a ps ax after you get eth0 fired up.
<br>--
<br>Raymond R. Jones
<br>The Computer Shop
<br><a href="HTTP://GORDO.PENGUINPOWERED.COM">HTTP://GORDO.PENGUINPOWERED.COM</a>
<br>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</blockquote>
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From: Arun Keswani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: newbie question
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 14:38:57 -0400
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I forgot to mention that I am using Redhat 6.0
a.
Arun Keswani wrote:
> Thanks for the prompt replies. I am new to Linux. I have worked on the
>
> AIX platform, so I am getting used to the Linux commands. The ethernet
>
> card sold under the name of ASIX Electronics, but the driver disk
> comes
> from some F=ma corporation in Taiwan. At any rate it is a GFC2204
> 10/100 Fast Ethernet PCI Adapter with RJ 45 Connector. The driver
> disk contains a Linux folder ,with the following files in it. ;
> Ax88140.c C source file
> Crc.h C header file
> Readme.
>
> I will attached the contents of the readme at the end of this message.
>
> I guess there are a couple of things that I don't understand. If the
> disk
> is DOS compatible, how should I get the file from my DOS partition
> to my linux partition, and will it be readable in Linux ? The service
> that I am using is AT&T @Home.
>
> I have to admit, I am not sure how to add a kernel module for the
> card.
> The card does use DHCP for Wins resolution undert 98, but I am not
> sure exactly what that is . As you can see this is a real newbie
> question.
>
> It is DHCP, as are most, and you better see "pump" in
> a ps ax after you get eth0 fired up.
>
> Thanks for all your help.
>
> Arun
>
>
>
>
> =========================
> Linux Driver Installation
> =========================
>
> The GFC2204 driver is included in newer 2.0.3x kernels,
> the driver name is "DECchip Tulip (dc21x4x)".
>
> If you don't have a proper version of tulip.c,
> the procedure to install this driver on linux:
>
> step 1: compile:
> "gcc -DMODVERSIONS -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -DAX88140_DEBUG=0
> -m486
> -I/usr/src/linux/net/inet -Wall -Wredundant-decls
> -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c ax88140.c"
>
> run this instruction at /usr/src/linux, make sure
> you have gcc and full kernel includes installed.
> ignore any warnings, they are common in kernel code,
> if any errors occur, remove the '-DMODVERSIONS' option,
> then try again, if you still can't compile it correctly,
> your kernel version is incompatible with this driver.
>
> step 2: insert the driver as module:
> insmod ax88140.o
> parameter can be added by adding options=..... behind the
> instruction
>
> (run 'lsmod' to see if the module is inserted)
>
> step 3: bind your card to an IP address
>
> /sbin/ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} broadcast ${BROADCAST} netmask
> ${NETMASK}
> (run 'netstat -i' to see if there is a interface 'ne0')
>
> step 4: add your card to IP routing table, then add gateway also
> your card:
> /sbin/route add -net ${NETWORK} netmask ${NETMASK} eth0
> (should be able to ping local network now)
> gateway:
> /sbin/route add default gw ${GATEWAY} netmask 0.0.0.0
> metric 1
>
> step 5: start inet deamon.
> /usr/sbin/inetd
> (you are on the network now)
>
> *make sure that your kernel is built with network, fast_ethernet and
> module
> support. Otherwise, you have to rebuild your kernel.
> (1:go to /usr/src/linux directory
> 2:run 'make menuconfig' or 'make config'
> 3:mark the options list above.
> 4:exit and rebuild your kernel.
> make dep;make clean;make zImage
> the file 'zImage' will be at
> /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage
> 5:modify /etc/lilo.conf.(this file specify where kernel image
> is)
> 6:run 'lilo' )
>
> You can run 'netconfig' which will do step 3,4,5 for you. This will
> create
> '/etc/rc.d/inet1' and 'inet2' files. These two files will run at boot
> time.
> Then just add a line at the beginning of 'inet1'.
> 'insmod /your driver path/ax88140.o'
>
> then your driver will work every time you boot.
>
> The author may be reached as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Ray wrote:
>
>> Stephen J Howard wrote:
>> >
>> > Yup it means the kernel has not recognised your ethernet card.
>> What type is
>> > it? You could then run control-panel and manually insert the
>> kernel module
>> > for the card, then al should be well.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
>> > Arun Keswani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > > I recently acquired cable modem service. I use both Linux and
>> Windows on
>> > > my machine
>> > > but the cable company does not support their product for Linux.
>> I
>> > > proceeded to try
>> > > and setup the networking options under Linux. I put in all the
>> > > information about
>> > > ip addresses, gateways, dns (primary), dns(secondary), netmask
>> etc, but
>> > > i cannot get
>> > > my machine to see the network.
>> > >
>> > > I tried using ifconfig, but when I use this option, it tells me
>> that the
>> > > device
>> > > eth0 is not found. Does this mean that Linux (Redhat 6.0) is not
>>
>> > > recognizing
>> > > my Ethernet card or that I have specified some settings
>> incorrectly. Any
>> > > help
>> > > would be greatly appreciated.
>> > >
>> > > a.
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>> Also, Let us know what cable service, RoadRunner is a snap,
>> as there is
>> no login process. It is DHCP, as are most, and you better see "pump"
>> in
>> a ps ax after you get eth0 fired up.
>> --
>> Raymond R. Jones
>> The Computer Shop
>> HTTP://GORDO.PENGUINPOWERED.COM
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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I forgot to mention that I am using Redhat 6.0
<p>a.
<br>
<p>Arun Keswani wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Thanks for the prompt replies. I am new to Linux.
I have worked on the
<br>AIX platform, so I am getting used to the Linux commands. The ethernet
<br>card sold under the name of <b>ASIX Electronics, but the driver disk
comes</b>
<br><b>from some F=ma corporation in Taiwan. At any rate it is a GFC2204</b>
<br><b>10/100 Fast Ethernet PCI Adapter with RJ 45 Connector.</b>
The driver
<br>disk contains a Linux folder ,with the following files in it. ;
<br>Ax88140.c C source file
<br>Crc.h
C header file
<br>Readme.
<p>I will attached the contents of the readme at the end of this message.
<br>I guess there are a couple of things that I don't understand. If the
disk
<br>is DOS compatible, how should I get the file from my DOS partition
<br>to my linux partition, and will it be readable in Linux ? The service
<br>that I am using is<b> AT&T @Home.</b>
<p>I have to admit, I am not sure how to add a kernel module for the card.
<br>The card does use DHCP for Wins resolution undert 98, but I am not
<br>sure exactly what that is . As you can see this is a real newbie question.
<p><i>It is DHCP, as are most, and you better see "pump" in</i>
<br><i>a ps ax after you get eth0 fired up.</i>
<p>Thanks for all your help.
<p>Arun
<br>
<br>
<br>
<p><i>=========================</i>
<br><i>Linux Driver Installation</i>
<br><i>=========================</i>
<p><i>The GFC2204 driver is included in newer 2.0.3x kernels,</i>
<br><i>the driver name is "DECchip Tulip (dc21x4x)".</i>
<p><i>If you don't have a proper version of tulip.c,</i>
<br><i>the procedure to install this driver on linux:</i>
<p><i> step 1: compile:</i>
<br><i> "gcc
-DMODVERSIONS -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -DAX88140_DEBUG=0 -m486</i>
<br><i>
-I/usr/src/linux/net/inet
-Wall -Wredundant-decls</i>
<br><i> -Wstrict-prototypes
-O6 -c ax88140.c"</i>
<p><i> run
this instruction at /usr/src/linux, make sure</i>
<br><i> you
have gcc and full kernel includes installed.</i>
<br><i> ignore
any warnings, they are common in kernel code,</i>
<br><i> if
any errors occur, remove the '-DMODVERSIONS' option,</i>
<br><i> then
try again, if you still can't compile it correctly,</i>
<br><i> your
kernel version is incompatible with this driver.</i>
<p><i> step 2: insert the driver as module:</i>
<br><i> insmod
ax88140.o</i>
<br><i> parameter
can be added by adding options=..... behind the instruction</i>
<p><i> (run 'lsmod' to see if
the module is inserted)</i>
<p><i> step 3: bind your card to an IP address</i>
<p><i> /sbin/ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} broadcast
${BROADCAST} netmask ${NETMASK}</i>
<br><i> (run 'netstat -i' to
see if there is a interface 'ne0')</i>
<p><i> step 4: add your card to IP routing table, then add gateway
also</i>
<br><i> your card:</i>
<br><i> /sbin/route
add -net ${NETWORK} netmask ${NETMASK} eth0</i>
<br><i> (should
be able to ping local network now)</i>
<br><i> gateway:</i>
<br><i> /sbin/route
add default gw ${GATEWAY} netmask 0.0.0.0 metric 1</i>
<p><i> step 5: start inet deamon.</i>
<br><i> /usr/sbin/inetd</i>
<br><i> (you
are on the network now)</i>
<p><i>*make sure that your kernel is built with network, fast_ethernet
and module</i>
<br><i> support. Otherwise, you have to rebuild your kernel.</i>
<br><i> (1:go to /usr/src/linux
directory</i>
<br><i> 2:run 'make menuconfig'
or 'make config'</i>
<br><i> 3:mark the options
list above.</i>
<br><i> 4:exit and rebuild
your kernel.</i>
<br><i>
make dep;make clean;make zImage</i>
<br><i> the
file 'zImage' will be at /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage</i>
<br><i> 5:modify /etc/lilo.conf.(this
file specify where kernel image is)</i>
<br><i> 6:run 'lilo'
)</i>
<p><i>You can run 'netconfig' which will do step 3,4,5 for you. This will
create</i>
<br><i>'/etc/rc.d/inet1' and 'inet2' files. These two files will run at
boot time.</i>
<br><i>Then just add a line at the beginning of 'inet1'.</i>
<br><i> 'insmod /your driver
path/ax88140.o'</i>
<p><i>then your driver will work every time you boot.</i>
<p><i>The author may be reached as [EMAIL PROTECTED]</i>
<p>Ray wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Stephen J Howard wrote:
<br>>
<br>> Yup it means the kernel has not recognised your ethernet card. What
type is
<br>> it? You could then run control-panel and manually insert the kernel
module
<br>> for the card, then al should be well.
<br>>
<br>> Cheers,
<br>>
<br>> Steve
<br>>
<br>> Arun Keswani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
<br>> <a href="news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a>...
<br>> > I recently acquired cable modem service. I use both Linux and Windows
on
<br>> > my machine
<br>> > but the cable company does not support their product for Linux.
I
<br>> > proceeded to try
<br>> > and setup the networking options under Linux. I put in all the
<br>> > information about
<br>> > ip addresses, gateways, dns (primary), dns(secondary), netmask
etc, but
<br>> > i cannot get
<br>> > my machine to see the network.
<br>> >
<br>> > I tried using ifconfig, but when I use this option, it tells me
that the
<br>> > device
<br>> > eth0 is not found. Does this mean that Linux (Redhat 6.0) is not
<br>> > recognizing
<br>> > my Ethernet card or that I have specified some settings incorrectly.
Any
<br>> > help
<br>> > would be greatly appreciated.
<br>> >
<br>> > a.
<br>> >
<br>> >
<p> Also, Let us know what cable
service, RoadRunner is a snap, as there is
<br>no login process. It is DHCP, as are most, and you better see "pump"
in
<br>a ps ax after you get eth0 fired up.
<br>--
<br>Raymond R. Jones
<br>The Computer Shop
<br><a href="HTTP://GORDO.PENGUINPOWERED.COM">HTTP://GORDO.PENGUINPOWERED.COM</a>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 18:49:00 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Otto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So you think that Windows 98 is a crime. Then you're probably screaming
> bloody murder when you look at Red Hat's version numbers, 5.0/5.1 and
> 6.0/6.1. The time elapsed between the versions isn't even close to three
> years which is the case of the Windows95/98 switch. Not to mention the rest
> of the Linux distributors and the fact that their R & D is minimal, when
> compared to Microsoft's. Yet, the price of the Linux distros are similar to
> Windows platform prices.
Not very good at maths, are you?
Even if you get the full priced distro of, say, SuSE at 25 quid, you can
install that legally on as many machines as you want. Yours, your companys,
your friends, all at no extra cost.
Try that with M$ windows, and see how fast you get accused of software
piracy.
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| Andrew Halliwell BSc | operating system originally coded for a 4 bit |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Smart)
Subject: File permission effects
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 19:01:11 GMT
Like all good users I have a separate account for normal use to the
root account, to avoid accidentally doing something awful. I copied
the fstab file to my 'user' account as a way of protecting it while I
edited the original. I didn't change the owner of the file when I
moved it.
When I later logged in as 'me' - and tried to copy the file to a
diskette it very properly wouldn't let me, presumably because the
owner of the file was 'root' - however it did let me both rename it
and delete it from my user area.
While non-root users had read access to this file, they did not have
write or execute rights. Surely then only root should have been able
to delete or rename the file?
Andy Smart
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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