Linux-Misc Digest #87, Volume #20 Thu, 6 May 99 19:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: converting ps to pdf (Glenn)
How do to capture Linux screen? (Khajohsak)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Darren Winsper)
Re: DHCP server for Linux? (brian moore)
Re: Redhat 6.0 and Netscape 4.51 (Sam E. Trenholme)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Andrew Carol)
concurrent ppp dial-ins (brad)
Re: I am on a quest... (Josh Miller)
Re: netcfg and "no $DISPLAY variable" (mist)
Re: X-SVGA-Server mit CL-GD 5426! (Vaclav Stepan)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Andrew Carol)
Re: How can X be so slow? (Don Johnson)
Re: kernel 2.2 (garv)
Can�t install C++ under Linux 6.1 ("No Limit Hacker")
Re: tell me linux---? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: RedHat 6.0 or SuSe 6.1? (Jerome Mrozak)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Mike Coffin)
procmail question (Dirk Freese)
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From: Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: converting ps to pdf
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 13:05:25 -0400
Hi,
I found out from the author Wolfgang Glunz that there is a much later version
available which I will try tonight. Hopefully this will work for me. You can
get it at:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Network/1958/pstoedit/pstoedit_3_12
Glenn
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Ian Hay wrote:
> Neil Zanella wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Ian Hay wrote:
>
> > > ftp://ftp.x.org/contrib/applications/pstoedit/pstoedit.html
> > > pstoedit -f pdf filename.ps filename.pdf
> > > It works quite nicely.
> >
> > I downloaded this and tried it out. Unfortunately the program was unable
> > to convert some fonts and mathematical symbols used within the document.
> > The systems I have access to are Red Hat 5.1 systems. I know that those
> > systems (unfortunately) do not come with a version of ghostscript
> > containing the ps2pdf uttility.
>
> Are you -sure- about the symbol and font problem? I converted some
> documents with some odd symbols. Sure enough, when I viewed them in
> Linux with xpdf, some symbols did not display properly, and were denoted
> with a box. HOWEVER - when I booted into Windows and viewed the same
> document with Acrobat, the document displayed perfectly. I can only
> assume that your ultimate intention is to have them viewed in Windows,
> so you might want to verify this.
>
> I.
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Ian R. Hay <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Toronto, Canada <http://www3.sympatico.ca/ian.hay/>
> "Linux already IS user-friendly ... it's just very picky
> about who it makes friends with!" -- source unknown.
> --------------------------------------------------------
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From: Khajohsak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do to capture Linux screen?
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 23:59:11 +0700
How to capture Linux screen both command line and X-windows. Please
help.
Thank.
John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: 6 May 1999 17:01:32 GMT
On Wed, 05 May 1999 15:15:08 -0700, Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> However there is no reason to suppose that they could not work it out
> to re-license software after an upgrade. It might even just happen in
> the background.
But as far as the software's concerned, it's been copied to another
computer. Therefore it won't work, or it'll register a new copy.
Just imagine how angry the customer would be when his credit card bill
arives.
That brings up another point, how do you pay if you don't have a
credit card?
> A really terrible future would be to require a very brief internet
> connection to check the license and get a session key _every_ time the
> software was run. As more and more people end up with 24/7 connections
> (DSL, etc), this may become possible.
The problem is so much of the world is still on metered calls. In the
UK, there is only one ISP where you get free off-peak calls to them,
and they're constantly engaged.
> In that case you could upgrade easily (good), they could tell everytime
> you used their software (bad).
A lot more people than you think would rebel against the 'big brother'
nation.
--
Darren Winsper
That's inches away from being millimeter perfect.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: DHCP server for Linux?
Date: 6 May 1999 17:47:29 GMT
On Wed, 05 May 1999 06:41:55 GMT,
Azfar Kazmi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Its amazing that I am unable to find a stable DHCP server for Linux! I found
> one at www.isc.org but they say it is partically funtional on Linux! DHCP
> being an important protocol, I believe there will be one for Linux. Where can
> I find it? I use Redhat distribution, if that matters.
Use ISC's. Works fine on my Linux machine.
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: Redhat 6.0 and Netscape 4.51
Date: 6 May 1999 10:42:58 -0700
>I have been running Redhat 6.0 and NS 4.51 for a while now...
>
>Everytime I compose a message, the whole computer freezes on me and I
>can't type anything. I have to cold reboot which always makes fsck go
>crazy when linux reloads.
Sounds like a incompatibility caused by the "upgrade" from GlibC2.0 to
GlibC2.1.
The best solution is to stick to RedHat 5.2 until they work out the bugs.
If you don't have a RH5.2 CD, you can get one for about $10, including
shipping+handling, at one of these locations:
http://www.linuxmall.com
http://www.lsl.com
http://www.cheapbytes.com
- Sam (Personally, I think RedHat should have waited until GlibC2.1
was more stable before they upgraded their libs. Keep in mind,
I just upgraded to GlibC2.0.x from a libc5.x system a month ago,
and some distributions, such as Slackware, still use libc5.x)
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From: Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 11:37:11 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ian Woollard
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> People may be just be able to run chips with their top off under an
> electron microscope to read off the unencrypted stream as it goes past.
Why would they not put opaque layers above the active circuitry?
I would even suppose that the chip would actively look for things like
it's packge being removed. There are several methods to do this.
--- Andrew
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From: brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: concurrent ppp dial-ins
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 17:13:54 GMT
I'm running pppd under redhat 5.1 using PAP for the authentication for
dial-in users. Is there a way to prevent having multiple concurrent logins
from the same user? In other words if I've defined a user named joe in
pap-secrets, I want to prevent having 2 separate users dialing in and both
using the username joe to login. If a user joe has already logged in, then I
don't want anyone else to be able to login as joe.
Thanks,
Brad
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From: Josh Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,alt.os.slackware.linux
Subject: Re: I am on a quest...
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 14:08:56 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
brian moore wrote:
>
> On Sun, 02 May 1999 08:19:57 GMT,
> Jeffery Cann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > for an X-windows email client for Linux. If my dream of the "perfect"
> > email client could be written down, it would have the following
> > features:
> >
> > - stable: never hangs, never blows up!
> > - reliable: messages don't evaporate!
> > - scalable: if I have 2000 messages saved, performance shouldn't drop.
> > - graphical: what can I say, I am not into pine.
> > - threaded: this seems to be a hard feature, not sure why.
> > - minimal resources: bloatware sucks even with P2/350 (128 MB)
> >
> > Here are the email clients I have tried:
> >
> > Netscape Communicator
>
> Mutt is smaller and does only mail.
>
> > KDE Kmail
> > - Lean and mean. Too lean on features. Font support is underdeveloped
> > and there is no threading in kmail 1.1. Kmail 2.0 will have threading.
> > Cannot support multiple email accounts. Seems to be stable.
>
I use Kmail... it DOES support multiple pop and imap accounts, it's graphical, it's
been stable for
me, it's pretty fast. It doesn't seem to have the threading you're looking for (but
I'm running
1.0).
The only thing I'd like to see in it is html support (for reading, cause there will
always be idiot
out there sending the stuff... and a few newsletters I get are in html mail).
It doesn't support sending from multiple e-mail accounts, but you can recieve from as
many as you
want by just clicking one button. That's all I need. If I need to send from another
account, it's
probably for a rare reason, and I use netscape's mail (cause I'm usually replying to
web email links
when that happens).
I think kmail would make an excellent base for building what you want though!
Josh I.
> Mutt threads and supports multiple accounts via IMAP or fetchmail.
>
> > Star Office
>
> Mutt works.
>
> > What do you use? How does it rate with the above wish list?
>
> Mutt in an xterm.
>
> --
> Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
> Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
> Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
> Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: mist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: netcfg and "no $DISPLAY variable"
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 16:51:47 +0100
Reply-To: mist <new$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
brian l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed to us that -
>
>>
>>You might want to upgrade your kernel, too. It's a bit old now.
>
>Hey - this isn't Micro$oft.
And blessed be for that. 8-)
> You don't *have* to upgrade if you don't want -
>if this kenel works for him/her then fine. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
>
True, but there are bug fixes and added features in newer kernels.
Personal preference I suppose.
--
Mist.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vaclav Stepan)
Crossposted-To:
at.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,de.comp.os.unix.linux.hardware,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: X-SVGA-Server mit CL-GD 5426!
Date: 4 May 1999 19:19:32 +0100
Daniel Wagner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hello out there,
: I've the following problem with X:
: If i want to use 800x600 pixels with 16bpp the X-Server doesn't startup and
: displays an errormessage:
: ...no screens found...
: Can anybody help me?
: Daniel
: PS: If I use any mode with 8bpp X works really fine.
There's some problem with mapping the upper 512 K of the graphic card memory. If there
was no progress, you won't be able to get more than 8bpp if you have more than 16 MB
RAM. It's all discussed in the Cirrus-howto (or something like that).
--
Vaclav Stepan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 11:47:50 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthias Warkus
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You need to read more history. Do you know how long it took to develop
> Windows 95 or even patch the minor bits of better functionality and
> more annoyances in that made Windows 98?
>
> The development of Gnome took only 18 months. 'Nuff said.
Now compare the amount of software which requires Windows 95 and which
requires Gnome. Notice how the Windows product still has an advantage
which can be measured in ratios of thousands to one?
This doesn't make Windows "better", it just is. The average consumer
simply doesn't care. When there are more people installing Gnome than
Windows X, come back and tell me.
> Because it is. If there is a comparable, free alternative, anything
> that costs is too expensive. That's what the free market is about, no?
Yes and no. The free market is not about price. It's about value.
The consumer wants to weigh the trade offs between price, availability,
quality, features, support, ease-of-use, documentation, and vauge
emotional "feel good" of a particular product.
Many times the Free version is the better deal and it will clearly
dominate. Other times the proprietary version meets people needs
better.
What many people here forget is that we developers weigh things
differently than the average public does. Our needs are different and
Microsoft is of no help to us. Free software is great for us.
> You need to get rid of the illusion that development of proprietary
> software is faster than development of free software.
You need to get rid of the illusion that all free software is alike and
all proprietary software is alike. Every need which can be fufilled by
software is different.
Things like an OS are easy to distribute to many people, so a Free OS
model (GNU and Linux) can be very fast to develop. Other things don't
benefit from distrubution so well and a proprietary model lets that
person (or small group) work full time possibly being faster to
develop.
Don't confuse how "good" Free software is from it's ability to please
people. It won't do the job for everybody. There is room in the
market for both models. Any proprietary software which can't compete
will fail to the free version, and likewise, any free version which
can't compete will simply be illrelavant.
Oh well....
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From: Don Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How can X be so slow?
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 14:15:39 -0700
Mattias Dahlberg wrote:
> >3) RAM Starvation. How much RAM do you have on your box at home?
> Nope. At home 128MB and at work 64MB.
How about on the card? How much ram have you got on the cards
themselves? i740-based boards tend to have little on-board ram (in hope
of using system ram via AGP--which I'm not sure linux supports.)
Besides, AGP accesses while faster than straight PCI ones, are still
much slower than using card-local memory.
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From: garv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: kernel 2.2
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 11:18:42 -0700
Monica wrote:
> How can I upgrade a kernel 2.0.32 Red hat to a kernel 2.2? I have a CD with
> this kernel but I dont't know what I must do.
> Thanks in advance,
> Monica
I used the rpm files on RH 5.9 (beta) to upgrade the kernel
(and a few libraries that it asked for). Printer would not work
I then changed my printcap file to lp0, as advised, and still no
printer. Maybe I'll try RH 6.0 on Monday...
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From: "No Limit Hacker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can�t install C++ under Linux 6.1
Date: 6 May 1999 18:42:53 GMT
Can�t install C++ programming tool under Linux 6.1
Thank�s
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Berlin
Germany
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: tell me linux---?
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 18:04:35 GMT
I like the REDHAT SECRETS 5.2 book. Hit http://www.emuse.net and then the
BOOKS link for a quickie review.
R.
In article <7golck$96j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Patrik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello, i'm a Linux Newbie, just started Xwindows in Red hat 5.1.
> Please tell me more about the OS's capabilities, and good
> text to refer to.
> thanks
> patrik
>
>
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From: Jerome Mrozak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.0 or SuSe 6.1?
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 13:32:05 -0500
Bill Unruh wrote:
>
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jerome Mrozak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >What I've wandered to is this assertion: If RH would tweak directories
> >so that the ordinary archives won't uninstall into useful (to RH)
> >directories then RH distribution becomes a propetary OS. Now, gentle
> >people, is this assertion justified and true, or utter nonsense?
>
> Since those are the choices, nonsense.
[snip]
> If you want to put all of your system binaries into /heaven/pearly/angels
> you may. You just have to make sure that root has those in its path (
> and that various scripts know where to look).
[snip]
> It is like Solaris, which likes to put system stuff in /opt/sbin while
> BSD based ones like /usr/sbin (or /sbin). Both work, but it can be a
> pain if you try to mix the directory structures. (a pain which sometimes
> can be solved as simply as
> ln -s /opt/sbin /usr/sbin
> but sometimes not)
Thank you very much. It appears that even with (the asserted) directory
change most things can be put right with PATH and ln. I feel better
about RH through this.
Jerome.
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From: Mike Coffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: 06 May 1999 10:53:34 -0700
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Mike Coffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Anglesio) writes:
> > > What incentive is there for private initiatives to promote literacy on a
> > > large enough scale?
> >
> > Huge. Most *parents* want their children to be literate. They go to
> > tremendous lengths to educate children and young adults. Millions
> > pay taxes and then pay tuition in addition to get a slightly better
> > result than public schools.
>
> In the US (at least among people who can afford it), yes. In many
> countries, that's not so. In some cultures, education for girls is
> frowned upon; in others, the income from working children is perceived
> as more important than education for the same children (and from a
> survival standpoint, that may well be true).
So you are saying, not that there is no incentives, but that there are
insufficient private resources. That I agree with. I think a better
way to provide resources is with a voucher system of some sort, rather
than a huge educational bureaucracy.
> It would be interesting to see if there is any example of universal,
> mandatory education provided by the private sector that has
> succeeded.
Unlikely, since the private sector can't mandate anything universal.
> Proponents of privatizing education based on private
> schools (supposedly) doing better than public schools miss a number of
> important advantages that private schools have: they can select their
> students, kick out anyone they don't like, and charge whatever the
> market will bear (I have relatives whose parents are paying on the
> order of $10,000/yr. -- for kindergarten and 2nd grade). Public
> schools can't do any of those things, and if education is to be truly
> universal, it must be possible for all children to receive it, not
> just those who are bright and whose parents can afford to pay.
>
> Private schools can do other things that public schools are currently
> restricted from doing, such as paying teachers well. It's hard to
> attract dedicated teachers when the pay is so poor.
Hmmm. I attended a Catholic school. The teachers had all taken a
pledge of poverty.
> > Second, if give credit to governments for all the good they have
> > done---and they have done considerable good---then you have to balance
> > the books. How much harm have they done? I won't go into a litany of
> > the atrocities that even relatively enlightened governments have
> > committed in this century: I'm sure you could list them as well as I.
>
> So stipulated.
>
> > > I'll borrow a metaphor from Bruce Schneier. If you went to the
> > > doctor, and he, instead of using a well-established and effective
> > > treatment, proposed to treat you with taco powder, would you be too keen
> > > on the possibility that yes, taco powder might work too?
> >
> > It's hardly the same. Private initiatives aren't a strange and
> > unknown thing that has never been tried. There are millions of
> > examples of where they work very well. Pointing out that they might
> > work in places where they haven't been tried isn't a big stretch, it's
> > a minor extrapolation.
>
> And there are some circumstances under which they work well, and some
> under which they don't. It's not very useful (in my book, at any
> rate) to talk about "government" vs. "private initiatives" without
> talking about the details of the individual program. Private
> initiatives are too broad a class of actions to be lumped together
> like that.
I agree. I was overly broad.
-mike
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From: Dirk Freese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: procmail question
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 19:05:28 +0200
Hi,
I was wondering if it is possible to make procmail passing an incoming
mail to a perl-script that evaluates the email and starts some action.
Example:
If a mail arrives from [EMAIL PROTECTED] procmail passes the body of
this mail (the mail itself would also be ok) to a script call "maileval"
so that "maileval" can use the content of the mail to start some action.
It would be important that that only mail from a certain user of a
certain domain will be delivered to "maileval" all other mail should go
to the normal mail-dir.
If anyone knows how to solve this, please let me know. (I know I'm in
usenet - still I prefer eMail as answer.)
Thanks in advance,
Dirk Freese
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