Linux-Misc Digest #87, Volume #26 Fri, 20 Oct 00 03:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: Help with winmodem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
RAM required? ("Micer")
What file(s) setup one's env? (Praedor Tempus)
Re: ppp problem ("Micer")
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Praedor Tempus)
HELP: Old binary not executable on Linux (Sharon Wang)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Praedor Tempus)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Praedor Tempus)
Re: HELP: Old binary not executable on Linux ("-hs-")
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (Michael O'Connell)
Linux Demo and Library Event in Davis, CA - October 28th (William Kendrick)
Re: What file(s) setup one's env? (Eric)
Linux Users' Group of Davis, November 7 - Zope (William Kendrick)
Re: HELP: Old binary not executable on Linux (Eric)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Help with winmodem
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 04:57:19 GMT
I can "insmod pctel" and the driver can detect my
modem successfully. It reported something like
PCTel detected at 0xdc00 IRQ 9
Still I got no response from the modem even if I
followed all the instructions provided.
When I look into the kernel message (dmesg), I
got something like "pctel assign interrupt". I
can't get it exactly here because I'm using
Windows right now.
Any advice?
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
rasteri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Interesting descovery - depmod says there are
unresolved external symbols in
> pctel.o - could this have something to do with
it? insmod doesn't complain about
> it. Has it just got something to do with
differing module versions? I will
> recompile the driver if this needs be. Does the
driver actually need to
> communicate with the modem to reply to the "at"
commands? Surely if the modem is
> a software based modem all the at replies are
generated by the driver instead of
> the modem? Or am I talking rubbish?
>
> anyway please help you guys...
> andrew
>
>
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Before you buy.
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From: "Micer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RAM required?
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:23:59 -0700
I have Redhat 6.0.
To run an Apache webserver with SSH, PPTP (Poptop?), and an ipchains
packet-filtering firewall how much RAM would be reasonable (32 meg, 64 meg
???).
To run an ipchains packet-filtering firewall with no services (just
packet-filtering and as a MASQ forwarding router) how much memory would be
required (16 meg? 32 meg???).
Thanks,
Micer
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From: Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What file(s) setup one's env?
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 23:15:47 -0600
When you do an "env" in a term window, you get a LOT of environment
information.
>From where does all this information derive? What file or files
contains this information?
I need to add a permanent, all-encompassing (all user) environment
variable and don't know what file to edit. Doing a export in an
xterm doesn't cut it...that only lasts for _that_ xterm session and
is never permanent.
praedor
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From: "Micer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ppp problem
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:40:01 -0700
I tried pppd in conjunction with /usr/sbin/chat and found it to be to picky
with the syntax. My ISP sent me a sample script which was OK but not great.
So I hunted around on my Redhat 6.0 system with "locate ppp" and found all
sorts of good documentation and sample scripts. In particular mine are
located in /usr/doc/ppp-2.3.7/scripts. They are reliable and easy to set up.
Steps to follow are:
1) Copy the ppp-on file to /usr/local/bin, then modify it to reflect your
own ISP's telephone dial-up number, your ISP login-account name, and your
password. Not surprisingly the fields are called TELEPHONE, ACCOUNT, and
PASSWORD. Also ensure that the com port is specified correctly, (ie: ttyS1
is com2), and that you specify the maximum modem speed (ie: 57,600).
2) Copy the ppp-on-dialer file to /etc/ppp. Modify it by adding the
following line to the end of the file:
"my ISP's prompt for a ppp connection" ppp
Note: Replace "my ISP's prompt for a ppp connection" with the end characters
of whatever string your ISP uses to prompt you for starting the PPP
connection. My ISP uses "indirbclng10101m01>", so I use the line:
">" ppp
3) In the same ppp-on-dialer script modify the line called "ogin: --ongin:
$ACCOUNT" to read "name: $ACCOUNT". This is only required if your ISP
prompts you as "Username:" rather than "Login:".
4) The ppp-off script does not need to be copied from
/usr/doc/ppp-2.3.7/scripts. Instead create a file called ppp-off and place
it in /usr/local/bin. Inside the file put one line as follows: "killall
pppd".
5) To start ppp automatically when booting place the following line into
/etc/rc.d/rc.local:
"/usr/local/bin/ppp-on &"
6) To stop ppp either type "/usr/local/bin/ppp-off", or else type "killall
pppd".
INSTRUCTIONS TO USE THE HORRIBLE /USR/SBIN/CHAT IN A SINGLE LINE:
1) Type the following horrible line and press the "Enter" key:
pppd /dev/ttyS1 57600 connect '/usr/sbin/chat "" atdtp2801234 CONNECT
"" Username: <your username> Password: <yourpassword> <ppp prompt
characters> ppp' noipdefault defaultroute
PS: I'm not sure about the PAP because I've never needed it or bothered with
it.
Good luck,
Micer
"Larry Krigbaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:lRPH5.17$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm working with Redhat 6.2 and trying to establish a ppp connection
to
> my ISP. I've been following the directions in the ppp HOW-TO using
minicom
> and 'pppd -d -detach /dev/ttyS0 115200'. The ISP uses PAP and I believe
I'm
> okay with the pap-secret file/setup. I connect and login to the ISP and
> immediately get the following sequence of messages:
>
> Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0
> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x01 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x3fdddcd> <pcomp>
> <accomp>]
> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x01 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x3fdddcd> <pcomp>
> <accomp>]
> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x01 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x3fdddcd> <pcomp>
> <accomp>]
> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x01 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x3fdddcd> <pcomp>
> <accomp>]
> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x01 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x3fdddcd> <pcomp>
> <accomp>]
> Modem Hangup
> Connection Terminated.
>
> I've talked to the ISP who tells me that I'm connecting,
authenticating
> and hanging up, but that everything appears okay on their side. I've also
> tried connecting via netcfg per instructions in the "RedHat Linux Bible"
and
> also with the Redhat rh-kppp Dialer. Both are equally unsuccessful,
though
> less informative.
> Could someone please offer and suggestions on what I might be doing
> wrong, or point me in the direction of some additional resources? Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 23:35:59 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:25:05 GMT, Haoyu Meng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >U need to read a whole book to understand how to use Latex. I am in the business
> >of writing books using computers. I don't want to have to learn programming to
> >do that.
>
> You have an exceedingly unprofessional attitude regarding your tools.
>
What does THAT mean...that one should HAVE to learn programing in order
to
write papers?
What nonsense. The writing is secondary to the work, unless one is a
journalist.
If one is a scientist, your job is to do science, not learn
typesetting. Your
scientific WORK is what matters most and it is a waste of time and
effort to
learn something that isn't needed just to write about it.
Science, Nature, Journal of Biological Chemistry, Biochemistry,
Journal of Virology, Virology, Journal of Molecular Biology, Genetics,
Gene, Journal of Molecular Evolution, RNA...NONE of them accept latex
(tex) format
documents. They DO accept word and wordperfect. Some of them accept
Wordstar.
A few of them accept plain text, which latex _can_ handle in these
circumstances.
My colleagues are all scientists who publish in the above journals, and
a few
others. They all use Word. They do not have the need nor desire to
take time
away from doing X-ray crystallography, biochemistry, virology, or
molecular
biology research in order to learn something like latex when all they
need
to publish is Word or WordPerfect plus EndNote. For graphics they use
Freehand or Illustrator. The EDITOR(s) at the journal gets to deal with
all that
typesetting crap. That is what they are paid to do.
Perhaps in physics, math, and computer "science" this is different but
in the
above fields, it is practically useless to spend time learning latex.
To consider this reality unprofessional is ridiculous. Priorities.
praedor
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From: Sharon Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.lang.c
Subject: HELP: Old binary not executable on Linux
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 01:50:35 -0400
1. First of all, not sure if the question is well posed.
I have a binary that works fine on an old Slackware
Linux box (2.0.1? and older), but can not be executed
on another box running RedHat 6.1 (kernel 2.0.2?)
What could possibly be the problems and how to
solve them?
2. I have a software that requires the user application
be compiled and linked agaist old a.out libc libraries.
Can some one point to me references on the a.out libc
installation HOWTO?
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From: Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 23:54:07 -0600
Jerry L Kreps wrote:
>
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, mlw wrote:
> >jazz wrote:
> >>
> >> I really need a powerful word processor with templates, styles, etc.
> >>
> >> What is available for Linux? How about for Powerpoint and Excel?
> >>
> >> Thanks ---
> >> Jazz
> >
> >You can download Star Office. I used to use Applix, but I got their last
> >version and it wasn't as good as their previous version. SO 5.2, OTOH is
> >as good as MS office in that it doesn't crash like MS office, and it
> >does not take down the OS like MS office.
> >
> >It has no problems reading MS office files, at least as far as I've
> >seen.
>
> I have it installed it on my Win98SE at work and loaded a 488 page Word95 doc
> without any sweat. I love SO5.2!!
Have you, by chance, figured out any use for the bibliography capability
that
is incorporated into SO5.2?
I wrote to Sun soon after they acquired StarDivision, suggesting that
they
incorporate a bibliography app into the suite, referencing EndNote for a
model.
It looks like they went ahead and added the bibliography app but from
what
I have seen of it, it is useless. Merely a holding cell for references
that
you cannot use.
I would have hoped that it would have been written to import several of
the
standards (medline, refer, bibtex) but no. I would have hoped that it
would
be capable of inserting citations into a starwriter document and of
generating
a bibliography/reference page for said document, but it doesn't appear
to
have ANY capabilities whatsoever. Did I miss something or has someone
actually been able to use the "bibliography" function/app in SO5.2?
praedor
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From: Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:00:00 -0600
"Andrew J. Perrin" wrote:
>
> Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew J. Perrin),
> > In a message on 17 Oct 2000 19:14:06 -0400, wrote :
> >
> > AJP> Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > AJP>
> > AJP> > Roberto Teixeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > AJP> > In a message on 16 Oct 2000 17:15:08 -0400, wrote :
> > AJP> >
> > AJP> > RT> >>>>> "Jan" == Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > AJP> > RT>
> > AJP> > RT> Jan> The most portable document format is PDF (Portable Document
> > AJP> > RT> Jan> FOrmat - D'uh). RTF is not half as portable.
> > AJP> > RT>
> > AJP> > RT> Not to start a document format war, but isn't PDF a proprietary
> > AJP> > RT> format? What about PS? I don't know if PS is proprietary, but it sure
> > AJP> > RT> is *very* portable
> > AJP> >
> > AJP> > Except for MS-Windows boxes....
> > AJP>
> > AJP> gsview32 exists for windows and displays postscript fine.
> >
> > True, but *most* MS-Windows people don't know this.
>
> ah yes, but this would be a problem with the people, not their boxes....
Can you edit/change a ps or pdf? No. They are both useless if you
intend to
make later changes or have collaborators who are expected to make
changes or
revisions to a document.
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From: "-hs-" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: HELP: Old binary not executable on Linux
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 08:28:11 +0200
Sharon Wang a �crit dans le message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>1. First of all, not sure if the question is well posed.
>I have a binary that works fine on an old Slackware
>Linux box (2.0.1? and older), but can not be executed
>on another box running RedHat 6.1 (kernel 2.0.2?)
>What could possibly be the problems and how to
>solve them?
>
>2. I have a software that requires the user application
>be compiled and linked agaist old a.out libc libraries.
>Can some one point to me references on the a.out libc
>installation HOWTO?
I failed to find any relationship between your question and the C-language.
Ask one of the Linux programming groups, there are a lot.
Ok, it was cross-posted. (IMO, it should appear at the top of the message:
Something like :
[X-posted to
comp.os.linux.misc
comp.os.linux.setup
comp.lang.c]
Note also that you should have positionned a FU2 to avoid pollution and
facilitate information collecting.
[FU2 comp.os.linux.misc]
--
-hs- Tabs out, spaces in.
CLC-FAQ: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html
ISO-C Library: http://www.dinkum.com/htm_cl
FAQ de FCLC : http://www.isty-info.uvsq.fr/~rumeau/fclc
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From: Michael O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 01:44:36 -0500
I believe ALL networking technologies "allow for differing types of transmissions".
Phone, video, and internet currently go across many other types of networking -
dialup lines, DSL, ISDN, frame-relay, T1, etc...
Dustin Puryear wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 23:17:16 -0600, David Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Do you want an RFC, it is a very complicated technology and I am not about
> >to start explaining it in a NG where it has at best a vague relevance in an
> >already off topic discussion.
>
> Well, ATM really isn't used for "differing types of transmissions." It uses
> the same type of "tranmission" everytime. Now, what is transported is
> another matter. As far as educational institutions using ATM goes.. well,
> they are just part of a pretty big crowd using ATM, including your local
> DSL provider.
>
> Best regards, Dustin
>
> >
> >"Dustin Puryear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 00:36:46 -0600, David Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >I stand corrected then "many people" as opposed to some.
> >> >
> >> >Btw, the other ATM stands for Asynchronous Transfer Mode and is a
> >networking
> >> >technology that allows for differing types of transmissions. There are
> >some
> >> >educational institutions that use it for phone, video, and Internet, all
> >on
> >> >one line.
> >>
> >> Not the best definition of ATM that I've ever heard..
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dustin Puryear <$email = "dpuryear"."@usa.net";>
> >> Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
> >> - http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
> Dustin Puryear <$email = "dpuryear"."@usa.net";>
> Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
> - http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux
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From: William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Demo and Library Event in Davis, CA - October 28th
Crossposted-To:
sac.announce,sacramento.internet,sac.general,sac.internet,ucd.cs.club,ucd.life,ucd.general
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 06:52:11 GMT
At 11am on Saturday, October 28th, the Linux Users' Group of Davis (LUGOD)
will be donating a collection of Linux- and Unix-related books to the
Davis branch of the Yolo County Library.
Yolo County Library, Davis branch
315 East 14th Street
Davis, CA
For more information on LUGOD's donation, or to help out, visit:
http://www.lugod.org/projects/yololibrary.shtml
Immediately following that event, LUGOD will be demonstrating the Linux
operating system at Border's Books:
Borders Books & Music of Davis
500 1st Street
Davis, CA
Drop by to learn more about Linux, ask questions, and get free stuff!
For more information on LUGOD's regular Linux demos, visit:
http://www.lugod.org/projects/demo.shtml
LUGOD is a federally-recognized non-profit organization dedicated to the
free Linux Operating System. LUGOD meets twice a month in Davis, CA.
Please visit our website for details:
http://www.lugod.org/
-bill!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lugod.org/
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What file(s) setup one's env?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:06:37 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Praedor Tempus wrote:
>
> When you do an "env" in a term window, you get a LOT of environment
> information.
>
> From where does all this information derive? What file or files
> contains this information?
>
> I need to add a permanent, all-encompassing (all user) environment
> variable and don't know what file to edit. Doing a export in an
> xterm doesn't cut it...that only lasts for _that_ xterm session and
> is never permanent.
>
> praedor
try adding it to /etc/profile
Eric
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From: William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Users' Group of Davis, November 7 - Zope
Crossposted-To:
sac.announce,ucd.general,sacramento.internet,sac.general,sac.internet,ucd.life,ucd.cs.club
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 07:06:04 GMT
LUGOD, The Linux Users' Group of Davis, will hold its next meeting on:
Tuesday
November 7, 2000
6:30pm
The meeting will be held at:
Z-World, Inc.
2900 Spafford Street
Davis, CA 95616
The topic will be:
"Zope", an Open Source web application server
presented by Bill Broadley
Zope is the leading Open Source web application server. Zope
enables teams to collaborate in the creation and management
of dynamic web-based business applications such as intranets
and portals. Zope makes it easy to build features such as
site search, news, personalization, and e-commerce into your
web applications.
For details on this meeting, maps, directions, public transportation
schedules, etc., visit:
http://www.lugod.org/meeting/
LUGOD is a non-profit organization dedicated to the
Linux Operating System which meets twice a month in Davis, CA.
Please visit our website for details:
http://www.lugod.org/
-bill!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lugod.org/
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: HELP: Old binary not executable on Linux
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:09:34 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sharon Wang wrote:
>
> 1. First of all, not sure if the question is well posed.
> I have a binary that works fine on an old Slackware
> Linux box (2.0.1? and older), but can not be executed
> on another box running RedHat 6.1 (kernel 2.0.2?)
RH6.x has a 2.2.x kernel, ergo this won't work, you will need to
recompile
Eric
> What could possibly be the problems and how to
> solve them?
>
> 2. I have a software that requires the user application
> be compiled and linked agaist old a.out libc libraries.
> Can some one point to me references on the a.out libc
> installation HOWTO?
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