Linux-Misc Digest #87, Volume #24                 Sun, 9 Apr 00 12:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  Re: How Netscape, AOL, and Sun inhibit competition & innovation (Andrew Purugganan)
  Re: /etc/fstab and NTFS drives (Dances With Crows)
  Cannot install (George Bell)
  Re: new hdd (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Linux printing inadequate. ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Good way to copy my system (Duane Evenson)
  Which Sound Card to Get? (Young4ert)
  Re: /etc/fstab and NTFS drives (George Bell)
  Re: Dialing Daemon Has Died (Robie Basak)
  Re: Help moving /var to partition (Robie Basak)
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (fungus)
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (fungus)
  Re: new hdd ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Problem with PPP and default gateway! (Clifford Kite)
  Re: Problem with PPP and default gateway! (Clifford Kite)
  Re: Cannot install (Young4ert)
  JDBC and Postgres database ("Richard Pitt")
  Re: acrobat for linux (ps -> pdf) (Una)
  java class libraries  ("Richard Pitt")
  Re: acrobat for linux (ps -> pdf) (Gerald Willmann)
  red hat 6.1
  Re: red hat 6.1 ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Symlink question (Lion)
  uninstalling stuff ("Simon H.")
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Charles R. Lyttle")
  Re: Image tool to grab image from the screen ("Simon H.")
  Re: pop mail server problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Netscape, AOL, and Sun inhibit competition & innovation
Date: 9 Apr 2000 14:06:39 GMT

JTK ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Crapzilla 6.0:

: http://home.netscape.com/browsers/6/index.html

on the contrary I think the bloat encourages it
--
jazz  annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org
Registered linux user no. 164098-88940
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: /etc/fstab and NTFS drives
Date: 09 Apr 2000 10:23:21 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 09 Apr 2000 09:18:58 -0400, Alex Kaufman 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I have a FAT16 (C) and NTFS (H) drives and I want to allow users to
>mount and use them. My fstab looks like this:
>
>/dev/hda1      /mnt/c  auto    noauto,user,ro  0 0
>/dev/hdb6      /mnt/h  auto    noauto,user,ro  0 0
>
>this works for hda1 but hdb6 is mounted with root permissions and only
>he can read the contents. How can I make it avaliable to all users?

NTFS filesystem support is still experimental, oddly enough.  You could
try adding the option "umask=000" to the "noauto,user,ro" line.  Changing
the filesystem type from "auto" to "ntfs" might also help...

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.

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From: George Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cannot install
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 10:23:27 -0400

Hello,

    I recently downloaded a newreader by ftp.  The name of the file is
slrn-0.9.6.2.tar.gz.  It is for the slrn newsreader from
ftp://space.mit.edu.   But when I try to uncompress the file with either
gunzip or gzip -d command, I get

gzip: slrn-0.9.6.2.tar.gz invalid compression data--crc error.

Does this mean I have to go back and download the file all over again?

Thanks



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: new hdd
Date: 09 Apr 2000 10:29:55 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 09 Apr 2000 13:10:21 GMT, Arash 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I think that i have successfully formated it using mke2fs. But i can
>not mount it, ErrMsg: mount: mount point /new-hdd does not exist.

That's because /new-hdd doesn't exist.
# mkdir /new-hdd
and then you'll be able to mount it on /new-hdd, just like the error
message says.

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux printing inadequate.
Date: 9 Apr 2000 14:25:25 GMT

Ralph C Blach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Ok, I guess that we have our differences.  I really think that this should be in
: a setup menu.

But it is. Where do you see that it isn't? Not that I defend RH's bad
user-interface design, but I really don't see where you get your claim
from. What you want iss in RH's printtool menu. I'm just interested to
know why you think it isn't?

:> Ralph C Blach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : I not arguing that it can be done, its just not easy.  I'm pretty good at
:>
:> And I'm not arguing that it can be done. I'm saying that it's easy to
:> do :-). Hit printtool. It'll bring up a list of printers. Click on Add.
:> Choose anything. Fill out the form that comes up:
:>
:>   name (whatever you like)
:>   spool dir (whetever you like)
:>   file limit 0
:>   printer device  (whatever you have attached, say /dev/lp0)
:>   input filter  (what you want)
:>
:> : linux configurations,
:> : and this did not take me long to do, but this should be setup menu's and its
:> : not.
:>
:> Mind you, I find that a whole lot more hassle than editing the
:> /etc/printcap. But I can envisage that you might prefer the printtool
:> approach - and in that case please explain what you find difficult
:> about the above?
:>

Peter

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From: Duane Evenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Good way to copy my system
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 08:20:49 -0600

The best way I've found is to use cpio. A quick and easy way for smaller
copies is cp -a.

Yves Bellefeuille wrote:

> On Fri, 07 Apr 2000, David Lippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I have a full, working linux system on one hard drive and basically want
> > to make an exact replica of it on another hard drive.
>
> If the two hard disks are identical, you can use "dd". Otherwise, see
> the Hard Disk Upgrade Mini How-To, by Konrad Hinsen and myself.
>
> --
> Yves Bellefeuille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ottawa, Canada
> Francais / English / Esperanto
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From: Young4ert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Which Sound Card to Get?
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 10:27:25 -0400

Hi,

I have just upgraded to SuSE-6.4 Distro Linux on my AMD-K6 400MHz
system.  What I would like to do is to add a soundcard on my Linux
system.  Currently, I have a choice to get either the MagicSound 16-Bit
SoundCard or the SQ1500 Quad PCI SoundCard.  I know the later uses the
Aureal 8810 Chipset and the Aureal only released the compiled Linux
driver as a module (I wished one day it will release the driver's
source).  I had tried to install such a precompiled driver to my system
for a Digital Research ThunderSound to no avail under Linux-2.2.14.  The
kernel kept complaining with version error messages.

Speaking about the Aureal driver for Linux, it currently only support
aureal 8810, 8820, and 8830 chipsets.  The question is which chipset has
more power and features?

-- 
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PS> Remove the "4" from e-mail address to respond.

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From: George Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /etc/fstab and NTFS drives
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 10:37:16 -0400

I had a similar problem with the serial port.  My serial port is under
/dev/ttyS1.  Access to the modem-->ttyS1 was restricted only to root until
I changed both read and write access permissions with chmod.  Ater the
change there was no problem for any user to access the modem.

Alex Kaufman wrote:

> I have a FAT16 (C) and NTFS (H) drives and I want to allow users to
> mount and use them. My fstab looks like this:
>
> /dev/hda1       /mnt/c  auto    noauto,user,ro  0 0
> /dev/hdb6       /mnt/h  auto    noauto,user,ro  0 0
>
> this works for hda1 but hdb6 is mounted with root permissions and only
> he can read the contents. How can I make it avaliable to all users?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: Dialing Daemon Has Died
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 9 Apr 2000 14:46:54 GMT

On Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:30:10 GMT, Stephen Oney said:
>Hey, I use KPPP and when I try to connect with my AOL server, it displays 
>the error message "The dialing daemon has died unexpectecly" I can connect 
>with my freewwweb account but it is really slow. 
>
>Is there any way I can find the IP adress of my local DNS server? I think 
>that might be the problem.

ppp in freebsd can do it, so I assume the Linux one can, I just don't
know how. If you have a Windows dual boot, then connect using that and
run the program called winipcfg - this will tell you.

Robie.

>
>
>Thanks alot
>-Madenosine
>
>--
>Posted via CNET Help.com
>http://www.help.com/


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: Help moving /var to partition
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 9 Apr 2000 14:53:26 GMT

On Sun, 09 Apr 2000 03:37:49 GMT, John Jacques said:
>Hello, I want to move /var to it's own partition. I have many empty
>partitions. How would I do this without a full re-install? I've tried
>moving directories to partitions and then making soft links to them and
>it doesn't work. Also, I've tried a hard link, but, it says the command
>is not supported. When I do a "ls -l /" my /usr, /root, /home, and / all
>show up as if they were regular directories, but, they are each on their
>own partitions.

Let's say that your fresh partition is /dev/hda6 (where you want /var
to go). I'm assuming that /var is currently part of your root
filesystem.

Do:
        mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda6
  mkdir /mnt/var
        mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/var
        find /var | cpio -p /mnt/var # transfers /var to /mnt/var, with
                                     # symlinks etc done properly
        rm -Rf /var # Check it got copied to /mnt/var first, this wipes
                    # everything in the old /var!
        mkdir /var
        chmod 755 /var
        umount /mnt/var

now add a line to /etc/fstab:
        /dev/hda6 /var                   ext2    defaults 1 2

then:
        mount /var

All done!

You might want to do:
        rmdir /mnt/var
to clean up.

Robie.

>
>Slakware 7.0 2.2.13 full install.
>
>Thanks
>John Jacques
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: fungus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 14:56:42 GMT



btolder wrote:
> 
> The cost of M$ software is incredibly reasonable. It's running
> about $90 every 3 years for an OS upgrade. That's $30 per year.
> Most companies budget more for office supplies and copies per
> employee per year.

Have you actually _seen_ the price of Windows 2000, Microsoft's
new "office" operating system????

Combine it with a copy of Office and you'll get a lot more than
$30 per year.


Now remember that this price is what nearly every computer
in every office in the entire world is earning Microsoft.
Do you still they aren't making much profit?


-- 
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/ O O \
\_____/  FTB.

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From: fungus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 15:00:58 GMT



Robert Moir wrote:
> 
> the cost of supporting that user's operating system and apps comes
> to a lot more than $30 per person per year.

Yep. The TCO of Microsoft operating systems has always been
one of the highest (all those reboots and reinstalls...)


-- 
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\_____/  FTB.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: new hdd
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 15:09:52 GMT

Arash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> Hello,
>       i have just installed my new hdd in my running linux
> box and have the problem that i dont know how to go on.
> I cannot read/write/mount the new disk which is called /dev/hdc1.

> I think that i have successfully formated it using mke2fs. But i can
> not mount it, ErrMsg: mount: mount point /new-hdd does not exist.
> What have i to do beside those steps? Adding a new hdd shouldnt
> be that difficult.

Well, the error message says the mount point doesn't exist.
Have you created the directory called /new-hdd?
 
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From: Clifford Kite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Problem with PPP and default gateway!
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 08:58:50 -0500

David Efflandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On the secondary box, take down your LAN default route in /etc/ppp/ip-up
> (ip-up.local in RedHat) and stick it back in from ip-down.

I don't think this will work.  Once IPCP negotiations are complete
doesn't pppd attempt to set it's default route *before* executing
/etc/ppp/ip-up?  If so, then no default route is set since pppd will
not replace or override an existing default route with one of it's own.

-- 
Clifford Kite <kite@inet%port.com>                  Not a guru. (tm)
/* Editing with vi is a lot better than using a huge swiss army knife.
   Use =} to wrap paragraphs in vi.  Or put   map ^] !}fmt -72^M   in
   ~/.exrc and use ^] to wrap to 72 columns or whatever you choose. */

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From: Clifford Kite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Problem with PPP and default gateway!
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 08:55:59 -0500

Kenny Zhu Qili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

pppd. But is there anyway to walk around this? You know I don't want
to permantly remove the "route add default gw $GATEWAY" line from my
rc.inet1, because then I won't be able to use IP masquerading! Please
help me.

The easiest thing to do would be to add this to /etc/ppp/ip-up:

  /sbin/route add default $1

The LAN default route will become the active default route again when
the PPP link goes down.

Please use a word-wrap of about 72 columns when posting to usenet.  Many
of us are text-challenged that way.

-- 
Clifford Kite <kite@inet%port.com>                  Not a guru. (tm)
/* In my book, the first poster to resort to personal abuse in a Usenet
   debate loses by default.  -  Rod Smith */


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From: Young4ert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot install
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 11:07:06 -0400

George Bell wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
>     I recently downloaded a newreader by ftp.  The name of the file is
> slrn-0.9.6.2.tar.gz.  It is for the slrn newsreader from
> ftp://space.mit.edu.   But when I try to uncompress the file with either
> gunzip or gzip -d command, I get
> 
> gzip: slrn-0.9.6.2.tar.gz invalid compression data--crc error.
> 
> Does this mean I have to go back and download the file all over again?
> 
> Thanks

What is your logical sense telling you when you get an error trying to
decompress the file you have downloaded off the Internet?  If your
logical sense says "No, I should try to fix the file" or "Hmm, it is an
ERROR and I should re-download the file", you should follow your instinc
and give it a try.

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

PS> Remove the "4" from e-mail address to respond.

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From: "Richard Pitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: JDBC and Postgres database
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 16:23:22 +0100

Has anyone used the postgresql.Driver that comes with 6.5.3 successfully?
We've been trying, but our program keeps not finding the classes.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Una)
Crossposted-To: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: acrobat for linux (ps -> pdf)
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 15:20:42 GMT

Janet  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Oops, I was talking about Acrobat, and you're right, it probably isn't
>available for Linux.  Although they are supposedly trying to port it to
>Linux; maybe someday it will be.

Acrobat Reader 4.0 (aka acroread) is available for Linux.  Acrobat per
se is not.  Adobe issued a press release in the fall, declaring support
for Linux and promising Acrobat for Linux in the first quarter of 2000.
So far, it remains vaporware.

-- 
        Una Szinger

        "Take that, you oaf."

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From: "Richard Pitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: java class libraries 
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 16:25:43 +0100

When I compile my java program it can't import any of javax.servlet, even
though I can see them, and they are in my CLASSPATH.
Any suggestions?

Richard Pitt, Southampton UK.



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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: acrobat for linux (ps -> pdf)
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 08:20:20 -0700

On Sun, 9 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Pjtg0707 wrote:
> >> Actually, Adobe does have a version of Acrobat for Linux. I am running one
> >> right now.
> > Adobe's webpage says otherwise (Current version: 4.05, Platforms:
> > Macintosh, Windows) so where and how did you get it. Thanks,
> Mine was included with my DISTRO.
> (SuSE has it in the pay section)

I have a feeling you don't realize that we are talking Acrobat and not
simply Acrobat Reader. The latter has been available for years, but the
former still is not AFAIK.
                               Gerald 
-- 


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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: red hat 6.1
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 15:30:04 GMT

i have red hat linux 6.1, wanted to know how to use non-rpm programs that i
download is it possible or should i switch to another linux operating
system??????????? cant figure out how to install or use

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http://www.help.com/

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: red hat 6.1
Date: 9 Apr 2000 15:42:18 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: i have red hat linux 6.1, wanted to know how to use non-rpm programs that i
: download is it possible or should i switch to another linux operating

You can do anything you like with anything.

: system??????????? cant figure out how to install or use

Then there is your problem. What you need to do is to figure out how
to install or use SOMETHING. Be specific. Download something in
particular and figure out how to install and use IT. Nobody
can tell you what to do with a generic random thing. You might
well want to start by reading the linux and unix FAQs on your disk.

Peter

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From: Lion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Symlink question
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 16:46:54 +0100

If I have the symlink /home/user1/link, which points to /home/user1/work
/some/stuff/Picture1, and I then create a symlink in /root/link which
points to the first symlink (/home/user1/link) then does the new symlink
actually point to /home/user1/link and then gets directed from there to
/home/user1/work/some/stuff/Picture1, or does it point straight to
/home/user1/work/some/stuff/Picture1?

-- 
Lion
BreadHead - Back By Popular Demand
Sex, Metal & Revolution

http://www.bigfoot.com/~breadhead

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From: "Simon H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: uninstalling stuff
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 16:57:27 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This is basic stuff I know but I can't seem to find the relevant
documentation anywhere. The question is: how do I uninstall applications
that were installed using tar -xvzf (as opposed to RPMS which even I can
manage)?

Thanks,
Simon


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From: "Charles R. Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 15:59:43 GMT

btolder wrote:
> 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In comp.os.linux.misc Otto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > So you think that Windows 98 is a crime. Then you're probably screaming
> > > bloody murder when you look at Red Hat's version numbers, 5.0/5.1 and
> > > 6.0/6.1. The time elapsed between the versions isn't even close to three
> > > years which is the case of the Windows95/98 switch. Not to mention the
> rest
> > > of the Linux distributors and the fact that their R & D is minimal, when
> > > compared to Microsoft's. Yet, the price of the Linux distros are similar
> to
> > > Windows platform prices.
> >
> > Not very good at maths, are you?
> > Even if you get the full priced distro of, say, SuSE at 25 quid, you can
> > install that legally on as many machines as you want. Yours, your
> companys,
> > your friends, all at no extra cost.
> >
> > Try that with M$ windows, and see how fast you get accused of software
> > piracy.
> 
> The cost of M$ software is incredibly reasonable. It's running about $90
> every 3 years for an OS upgrade. That's $30 per year. Most companies budget
> more for office supplies and copies per employee per year.
Priced Office recently? Gates could give away the OS just to make sure
you had no choice but run his applications. But people are still willing
to pay for the OS, which costs pennies to produce, but brings in dollars
(or pounds). 
-- 
Russ Lyttle, PE
<http://www.flash.net/~lyttlec>
Thank you Melissa! 
Not Powered by ActiveX

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From: "Simon H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Image tool to grab image from the screen
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 17:05:30 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

yep, XV is the one to use. It's shareware and you can download it from:

http://www.trilon.com/xv/

Simon


J Bland wrote:

> On Sat, 8 Apr 2000 17:06:05 -0400, Andrew Shiue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Does anyone know this kind of program in the Linux?
> >
> >Thanks,
>
> XV. Can grab areas of the screen or the contents of windows.
>
> JB


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: pop mail server problems
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 16:08:05 GMT


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Wojciech Tatina wrote:

> I have set up a Linux (Red Hat 6.0) intranet mail server for my network
> where the clients are Win98/98/NT machines. I had the full installation of
> RedHat
> 6.0. The mail server is also the DNS for my network. Sendmail is running
> and I added the users to this linux box. The clients could perfectly send
> their mails, (Even while mailed with the full qualified names i.e.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]) but were not able to retrieve the mail from the server. Those
> mails sent by the clients are reaching properly as I could see them logging
> in their respective accounts in the Mail server itself (It gives messages as
> "new mail arrived."). As the mail retrieval will be using POP3, what
> configurations should I make to the sendmail.cf or elsewhere so that the
> clients can read their mails with there own mail clients? I've configured
> the mail clients properly.
> The message Outlook Express gives is:
>
> Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes for
> this include server problems, network problems or a long period of
> inactivity. Account:'voytek', server:'mailserv.xyz.com', Protocol:POP3,
> Port:110, (:No, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F
>
> And according to the Mail-HOWTO in /usr/doc/HOW-TO/ directory I tried to
> telnet the POP server by giving the command:
>
> # telnet <my mail servers name> 110
> ..It produced output as..
> Trying 192.168.2.3...
> Connected to mailserv.xyz.com.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> (A brief delay of about three to four seconds)
> Connection closed by foreign host.
>
> what am I missing here? Can someone please help me?
>
> Voytek Tatina
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

try this.
edit /etc/inetd.conf.
uncomment the pop3, pop2, and imap lines.
issue the killall-HUP inetd command to re-read the config.
then try to check mail. it works for me here ;)


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DO NOT meddle in the affairs of the sysadmins,
for they are subtle and QUICK to anger.

Be nice to me or I'll replace you with a very small
shell script.  --Andy



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Wojciech Tatina wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I have set up a Linux (Red Hat 6.0) intranet mail
server for my network
<br>where the clients are Win98/98/NT machines. I had the full installation
of
<br>RedHat
<br>6.0. The mail server is also the DNS for my network. Sendmail is running
<br>and I added the users to this linux box. The clients could perfectly
send
<br>their mails, (Even while mailed with the full qualified names i.e.
<br>[EMAIL PROTECTED]) but were not able to retrieve the mail from the server.
Those
<br>mails sent by the clients are reaching properly as I could see them
logging
<br>in their respective accounts in the Mail server itself (It gives messages
as
<br>"new mail arrived."). As the mail retrieval will be using POP3, what
<br>configurations should I make to the sendmail.cf or elsewhere so that
the
<br>clients can read their mails with there own mail clients? I've configured
<br>the mail clients properly.
<br>The message Outlook Express gives is:
<p>Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes
for
<br>this include server problems, network problems or a long period of
<br>inactivity. Account:'voytek', server:'mailserv.xyz.com', Protocol:POP3,
<br>Port:110, (:No, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F
<p>And according to the Mail-HOWTO in /usr/doc/HOW-TO/ directory I tried
to
<br>telnet the POP server by giving the command:
<p># telnet &lt;my mail servers name> 110
<br>..It produced output as..
<br>Trying 192.168.2.3...
<br>Connected to mailserv.xyz.com.
<br>Escape character is '^]'.
<br>(A brief delay of about three to four seconds)
<br>Connection closed by foreign host.
<p>what am I missing here? Can someone please help me?
<p>Voytek Tatina
<br>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</blockquote>
try this.
<br>edit /etc/inetd.conf.
<br>uncomment the pop3, pop2, and imap lines.
<br>issue the killall-HUP inetd command to re-read the config.
<br>then try to check mail. it works for me here ;)
<br>&nbsp;
<pre>--&nbsp;
DO NOT meddle in the affairs of the sysadmins,
for they are subtle and QUICK to anger.

Be nice to me or I'll replace you with a very small&nbsp;
shell script.&nbsp; --Andy</pre>
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