Linux-Misc Digest #89, Volume #20 Thu, 6 May 99 22:13:09 EDT
Contents:
I/O boards (Matt Davies)
Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (was: Wanted: Database/Contact mgr with
backend on Linux/FreeBSD, web frontend) (Larry Blanchard)
Re: Mac-emulation on Linux? (Chris Johnson)
Re: Stepping thru assembler codes in GDB (How?) (Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah)
Re: Linux Client for MS Network (Robert Heller)
Mesa compilation problems (u01och)
Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage (Andrew Comech)
Can't open COM1 unless root - how to fix? (Michael Wolf)
Re: RedHat 6.0 or SuSe 6.1? (Christopher Mahmood)
Re: Desktop size, XFree, KDE (Howard Mann)
Linux Client for MS Network (James Grossmann)
Re: Mac-emulation on Linux? (Clifford T. Matthews)
IL-Chicago UNIX-ADMIN immediate opening
mdrecoveryd ?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
help please: compiling kernel 2.2.6 error. ("John van der Zanden")
Re: [SURVEY] Who has an internal modem in his linux box ? ("John Pfaff")
Re: True Type Font Installation: How? (Juergen Heinzl)
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From: Matt Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I/O boards
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 20:06:46 -0600
I am trying to set up a computer that will have a digital i/o interface to
the world. I searched the manufacturers for support with linux drivers to
find nothing.
Is there anyone out there that has experience with this? I would like to
be able to write c++ programs taht will be able to talk to to the cards
thanks
matt davies
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Larry Blanchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (was: Wanted: Database/Contact
mgr with backend on Linux/FreeBSD, web frontend)
Date: 06 May 1999 17:15:20 PDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rolf Marvin B�e Lindgren wrote:
>
> UNIX supports several users out of convenience - some processes are best
> run as a separate users. to me, the fact that the same machine can run
> several login shells simultaneously is not sufficient to call it
> anything else. the concept, in UNIX, is a hack - for instance, that
> there are only two levels of user - root and not root.
>
> if you want a true shared user system, go for an operating system that
> supports it - NOS, VMS, TOPS-20.
>
Let's see. Because it only supports two *levels* of users, you claim it
doesn't support multiple *users*. I seem to remember something about
that type of argument from a long-ago logic class :-). What are the
words for "it does not follow" in Latin?
--
Larry Blanchard - Old roses, old motorcycles, and old trains
Homo Sapiens is a goal, not a description.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Johnson)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Mac-emulation on Linux?
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 21:12:06 -0400
In article <01be9718$1947d5a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "FM"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Just another related question. Do all macs have one
>mouse button or is it that it's so common that I've
>never encountered a mac with multiple mouse buttons.
>I'm quite used to 3-button Logitech mice that I
>find many 2-button mice very limiting and wonder if
>I could make use of multiple-button mice on a mac?
>If there are some available (which I assume), does
>the X windows (and window managers/desktop
>environments) make use of the extra buttons? How
>does it behave without the extra buttons?
>Dan
I find it works this way- having the single button mouse causes me to
access more functions on the keyboard. I run Window Maker and have mapped
many things to Fkeys- in particular, F1 is the applications menu, F2 is a
windows menu, F3 is the properties of a window menu and F4 is xkill :)
*kachik* *BLAM!*
One reason I like Window Maker so much is that it is cooperative in
this goal of bending X to my whims- it's more general and less complicated
than, say, KDE, and there is tremendous flexibility to tailor it to
situations such as using a one button mouse. You simply have keys
activating things- this is not so unthinkable. Fkeys are your friend if
you want the mouse to be mostly just a pointer :)
I also find X text handling to be extremely stupid, being used to the
Mac way of doing it (drag across stuff, drag selected stuff, delete gets
rid of stuff and cmd-X-C-V is cut-copy-paste). For that reason I don't
find anything admirable about the multibutton X text handling methods and
don't feel I'm missing out by not having them- instead I find I just type
everything, with an eye to keyboard-only methods, which strikes me as more
Unixlike anyhow. To me the mouse is mostly just for window-wrangling in X,
and one button is as good as three for that, if you are ready to customize
some keyboard mappings to your needs.
That's just my perspective, YMMV.
Chris Johnson
@airwindows.com
chrisj
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,comp.unix.programmer
Subject: Re: Stepping thru assembler codes in GDB (How?)
Date: 7 May 1999 06:47:55 +0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Thomas Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah wrote:
>>
>> How do I step through each of the assembler codes (after using disass) in
>> GDB? Thanks.
>>
>> Napi
>
>Assembly language differs with each processor. Also, this newsgroup,
>news:comp.lang.c, is about the C language, not assembly. Please consult a
>platform specific newsgroup for further assistance.
Well, my program was written in C and some of the libraries were written in
C but no source is available. So one has to step thru the assembler codes
of the library routines some time in GDB to see what's really happenin.
Napi
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Client for MS Network
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 01:01:15 GMT
James Grossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Thu, 06 May 1999 16:20:44 -0500, wrote :
JG> I was wondering if there was a Linux client for Microsoft windows
JG> networking.
Samba provides 'smbclient'. There is also 'smbfs' as well.
JG> --
JG> James Grossmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
JG>
JG>
JG>
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From: u01och <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mesa compilation problems
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 00:25:58 +0100
I've installed Mesa 3.1 (RPM) on Rh. Linux 5.2.
No problems so far but when I try to compile a file (lets call it
hello.c)
it get tons of "undefined references". I'm using Mesa's Makefile.
If it type " make hello", I can see that makefile enters the following
command :
cc -I../include hello.c -L../lib -lglut -lMesaGLU -LMesaGL -lm -o hello
(looks ok, or not ?)
but I get the following error messages during compilation :
/usr/lib/libglut.so : undefined reference to 'XfreePixMap'
/usr/lib/libglut.so : undefined reference to 'XSetWMProtocols'
/usr/lib/libglut.so : undefined reference to 'XSetWMIconName'
/usr/lib/libMesaGL.so : undefined reference to 'XShmDetach'
...
and so on...
The solution to my problem is probably simple but I can't find it...
Thanks for any answer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 6 May 1999 17:12:49 -0500
On 6 May 1999 17:56:39 GMT, brian moore wrote:
>On 6 May 1999 13:39:22 -0500,
> Andrew Comech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Cookies themselves do not mean that much: this is far from a 100%
>> identification, especially if you fake your email address (and disable finger).
>> At the same time, PSN is close to 100% in more than 50% cases (all intel
>> users who did not know how to disable PSN).
>
>Neither is 100% identification.
But one is much closer to 100% than the other.
>(Think shared machines: quite common at
>many businesses.)
But _not_ at home (except for sharing a PC with kids).
>> Let me also answer other raised issues:
>>
>> This idea "stick to Linux and you are free from PSN identification" is...
>> stupid. Linux is not _that_ popular so far, and we could face the mentioned
>> problem that some internet services are just not accessible from machines
>> with disabled PSN. They would not care much about losing Linux users as a
>> whole, as do not care the manufactures of winmodems.
>
>If they don't want my business, it's nice of them to make it inaccesible
>to me so I know not to waste my time trying to give them money. There
>are plenty of businesses that are glad to have my money.
>
>> Also, there are more and more applications for Linux; just you wait for
>> an IE (or is it there already?) and others... Or are you going to
>> answer me that I (and everybody else) should carve out PSN lines from the
>> source code?.. Again, there are "non-free" applications, when the source code
>> is not available, and there could be more of those...
>> Also, there are all those java things and plug-ins, and I wonder whether one
>> may use them to turn the PSN on. So far, Linux is probably safe; next year it
>> will not be.
>
>Wanna bet?
Not really: It is not going to be that soon. (By that time I will probably
be running Hurd...)
BUT, don't you think that by that time more law-abiding citizens (who can
not e.g. change the size of disk cache in Netscape) will be running Linux?
And that microsoft and other species will be writing applications for Linux
platform? I am not sure you want to bet.
If you have a spare time for this sort of things, you can stay PSN-free
even running IE under windows on pentium III, but common people are not
computer wizards.
>> That is, this would be jungles of methods and and contra-methods which enable
>> or disable PSN, where only brave [hackers] are able to overcome PSN in their
>> computers. Do we want to face all that in a year or two, or do we just keep the
>> voice up trying to avoid PSNs completely?
>
>I think your time would be better spent on dealing with real privacy
>issues, such as WebTV's reporting of TV viewing habits and what
>Microsoft (owners of WebTV, after all) will do if they manage to get
>WinCE into cable boxes.
I do not agree with you: OK, they will learn that I prefer Beavis and Butthead
and South Park to any other cartoon and that I do not watch baseball; I do not
mind. But having access to a PSN, they might know about _every hit of a key_
one makes. In two years, this will reveal everything about one's life: the
favorite drug store, kids' school, one's travel plans, day's schedule... And
this all would be linked to a particular individual (driver's license #.....).
There is a lot more; this is just from the top of my head.
This is called invasion of privacy or something.
a.
--
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http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem
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From: Michael Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Can't open COM1 unless root - how to fix?
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 16:13:48 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When I try to open the COM ports I get permission denied unless I am
running as root.
Is there a way to allow any group of users to access the port?
I thought about trying a simple chmod on ttyS0 but I was not sure how
linux would react and I didn't want to hose anything up until I checked
with others first.
Thanks.
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From: Christopher Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.0 or SuSe 6.1?
Date: 06 May 1999 04:13:52 -0700
vanilla...
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From: Howard Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Desktop size, XFree, KDE
Date: 7 May 1999 01:25:23 GMT
In article <7gssbl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I want to know how to reaize my desktop. The default size seems to be
> 1024x768. If I run at a lower screen resolution, I get the usual panning
> screen, which I hate. How can I set both the desktop *and* screen to
> 800x600?
>
> Matt O.
>
It is indeed possible to get rid of a virtual display that is larger than the size of
the monitor's screen.
The explanation / solution is well articulated in these two sources available online:
1. http://www.xfree86.org/FAQ/index.html , section D, Q.D.2
2. http://www.suse.de/Support/sdb_e/maddin_xfine.html
Cheers,
--
Howard Mann
http://www.newbielinux.com
(a LINUX website for newbies)
Smart Linuxers search at: http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml
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From: James Grossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Client for MS Network
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 16:20:44 -0500
I was wondering if there was a Linux client for Microsoft windows
networking.
--
James Grossmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clifford T. Matthews)
Subject: Re: Mac-emulation on Linux?
Date: 06 May 1999 15:06:40 -0600
>>>>> "Stan" == Stan Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Stan> On 05 May 1999 14:15:22 -0600, Clifford T. Matthews
Stan> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Since the 68040 topped out at 33 MHz (?),
Stan> That's the bus speed, it's doubled internally to 66MHz - like a
Stan> 486DX2
Popular misconception, but incorrect.
It's true that it's the bus speed.
It's also true that it's doubled internally.
However, unlike the DX2, the internal doubling didn't speed up
execution dispatch by a factor of two. I used to have a quote from
Motorola's own manual, but it's been a while since I've seen this
canard.
Please note, if it were true, it would make our benchmarks better by a
factor of two, so I have no incentive to claim otherwise. Included
below is some data from our synthetic CPU white paper
<ftp://ftp.ardi.com/pub/SynPaper.ps>. The Quadra 610 uses a 25 MHz
68040. If you consider that part a 50 MHz part, then either our
synthetic CPU is amazingly efficient, or the x86 architecture is
amazingly better than the 680x0 architecure, since it would have us
emulating a 50 MHz part with a 75 MHz part which is very small
coefficient of loss.
Regards,
Cliff Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Founder,
ARDI
XII. Benchmarks
These performance numbers were computed with Speedometer 3.23.
We've removed the floating point tests from the list since they do
not measure syn68k's speed. Syn68k contains no special provisions
for Speedometer's benchmarks and we believe that these numbers are
indicative of syn68k's performance for many other CPU-intensive
programs.
Quadra Pentium 486DX4 486DX/2
610 90MHz 75MHz 66MHz
------ ------ ------ ------
CPU 16.018 28.833 15.727 13.840
Dhrystones 19.586 21.886 12.084 9.424
Tower 18.909 27.130 12.235 11.556
Quicksort 17.759 27.105 15.606 13.919
Bubble sort 18.409 31.154 19.286 16.875
Queens 19.083 38.167 19.083 18.320
Puzzle 22.083 44.167 23.661 21.032
Permutations 21.019 28.564 11.604 12.242
Int. Matrix 24.200 26.469 19.369 16.608
Sieve 23.362 60.290 33.982 30.145
------ ------ ------ ------
Average 20.490 33.881 18.582 16.680
Preliminary analysis suggests that we average a roughly 3:1
instruction count increase when translating to 80x86 code. We have
not yet taken rigorous measurements, but the 3:1 figure is lent
some credence by the fact that our 75MHz 486DX4 gets nearly the
same performance as our Quadra 610.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mdrecoveryd ??
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 00:02:08 GMT
Hi,
Does anyone know what 'mdrecoveryd' is? I've been running searches on the web
through different search engines, at teh redhat site, etc and I can't find
anything on it.
I'm running redhat 6.0 (Hedwig) and it's the first time I notice this.
If someone does know, could you please send me a quick email at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you.
Gerard
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From: "John van der Zanden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.help,redhat.kernel.general
Subject: help please: compiling kernel 2.2.6 error.
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 23:47:02 +0200
When compiling (make menuconfig, make xconfig) new kernel 2.2.6 i get
following messages. Make config works fine. What is the matter ?? spend 1
hour writing this crap down and typing it in this email, so please !!! help
!!
RM -f include/asm
(DD include ; ln-sf asm-i383 asm)
make -c scripts/lxdialog all
make [1]: entering directory '/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog
gcc-wale -wstrict-prototypes -02.fonit-frame-pointer-d local
-I/usr/include/ncurses -dcurses_loc="[ncurses.h]
-c lxdialog.c -o lxdialog.o
in file include from lxdialog.c:22:
dialog:h:22:sys/types.h:no such file or directory
dialog:h:23:fcntl.h: no such file or dir
dialog:h:24:uninstd.h:no such file or dir
dialog:h:25:ctype.h:no such file or dir
dialog:h:26:stlib.h:no such file or dir
dialog:h:27:string.h no such file or dir
in file included from dialog.h:29
from lxdialog.c:22:
/usr/include/ncurses/ncurses.h:71:stdio.h: no such file or dir
lxdialog.c:53:lacale.h:no such file or dir
make [1]: ***[lxdialog.o] error 1
make [1] leaving dir
make:***[menuconfig]error 2
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From: "John Pfaff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: [SURVEY] Who has an internal modem in his linux box ?
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 21:50:29 -0400
Have a USR 28.8 internal working great with AT&T Worldnet.
Ed Hurst wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> As a complete newbie, I managed to get online with a Jaton Modulator
>V.90 with Rockwell chipset. You will, unfortunately, have to read the
>initialization details from the CD-ROM on a Windows machine. On the
>other hand, it was cheap. (It didn't hurt that my ISP was quite willing
>to tell me that, if I set the initialization string to run in V.34 mode,
>I would be logged into them on a genuine shell account.).
> Ed
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: True Type Font Installation: How?
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 21:58:58 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Huy Le wrote:
>Would anyone kindly tell how to install True Type Fonts on RedHat Linux?
You do need a font server to be able to use those fonts and here is
an article ...
http://www.fokus.gmd.de/linux/lg/issue28/ayers1.html
... though this is a German mirror and ...
http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/jec/programs/xfsft/
... here's the server and stuff.
Cheers,
Juergen
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