Linux-Misc Digest #89, Volume #21 Tue, 20 Jul 99 00:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: root password (H.Bruijn)
Re: newbie wants advice ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: newbie wants advice (Ian Briggs)
Re: Configure the Telnet Daemon in RH 6.0 Pentium III - 450Mhz ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Data Corruption Problem (Errin Watusikac)
root and user window managers (Kyle Petersen)
Re: .bash_profile Path question (Holczhammer Mark)
Re: Shells (Chris Gushue)
Re: Can someone recommend.... (*puntero_loco)
Re: mounting problem (Holczhammer Mark)
Re: Problem with installing kernel 2.2.* ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: VMWARE floppy boot problem (Alan Fried)
Re: Multimedia software (Holczhammer Mark)
Re: Can Linux read FAT32 partitions (Daniel Forester)
Re: Mounting a FAT floppy (Holczhammer Mark)
Compiling 2.2.x under RedHat 6.0 (crispb)
Re: Kppp/pppd probs ("Yogesh Sharma")
Re: RedHat 5.2 won't install on Abit BH6! (Michel Catudal)
New Sound Blaster Live! driver ("Kin Man Yau")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.general
Subject: Re: root password
Date: 20 Jul 1999 00:17:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:43:52 GMT, Ron McKown allegedly wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> ---
>> Why doesn't single user mode ask for root's password as well? It
>> would seem to me that this could be a security breach. What is there
>> to stop someone from walking into my office, booting my system up in
>> single user mode, and then having their way with my files?
>
>if someone really wanted yer files, they could remove your hard drive from
>that machine and mount it into another... full access baby...
>
Unless you have installed the modules for encrypted file-systems...
--
Herman
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------
If a trainstation is place where trains stop, what is workstation?
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Herman Bruijn hbruijn dix.Mines.EDU
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: newbie wants advice
Date: 20 Jul 1999 00:25:09 GMT
Anon User wrote:
> I am thinking of switching from Windows 98 to Linux, and am now in the
> "finding out" stage. I have some questions.
> 1. Is Linux really as stable as people say it is?
Yes. 14 Months, 5 Machines, 0 crashes (well, I did cause a crash as
a newbie to be honest about it. And I have seen hardware problems
crash Linux).
> 2. Can I find a wide choice of applications that run on Linux?
Depends on what you want to do with it, but in general: Yes.
> 3. If so, are they affordable (compared to their Windows-based
> counterparts)?
Yes. I have spent $130 total on Linux in the last 14 months, only
$7 in the last 6 months. For that $7 I have *everything* and more
of what I want (Word Processors, Spread Sheets, Graphics, Databases,
Programming Languages, Games, Sound drivers, etc., etc., etc.). And
it's really high quality in terms of operational robustness. It isn't
quite as polished as WinWhatever. But it's more than good enough.
> 4. What are the disadvantages of using Linux?
I spend a lot of time reading and learning. It takes a lot of time
in my opinion to get good at Linux. To me it's worth it. It may
be too much overhead for many people.
> 5. What is the minimum home PC for which linux is recommended?
At work I did quite well with a 133 MHz Pentium. My wife uses an
87 MHz Pentium with 40 Meg without problems. On the other hand
I just got upgraded to 400 MHz with 128 Meg at work - fast but
definitely overkill.
> 6. What else does someone like me need to know?
UNIX. UNIX. UNIX...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Briggs)
Subject: Re: newbie wants advice
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:28:01 GMT
Anon User wrote:
:1. Is Linux really as stable as people say it is?
Absolutely, yes. And fast.
:2. Can I find a wide choice of applications that run on Linux?
Not the same range of big commercial office applications that are
available for Windows. It's probably worth you deciding exactly what you
want, and then asking about specific types of application.
:3. If so, are they affordable (compared to their Windows-based
:counterparts)?
Many Linux applications are free-of-charge.
:4. What are the disadvantages of using Linux?
(a) Shortage of software. (b) Lack of support for some hardware devices.
(c) High degree of technical understanding and ability need to set it up
and keep it configured. (This last is one of the reasons why it's also
such a stable system.)
:5. What is the minimum home PC for which linux is recommended?
I think it runs on a 486. Plenty of RAM is good for running graphical
windows-type applications (I'm just upgrading mine to 128MB to handle
one particularly memory-hungry application).
:6. What else does someone like me need to know?
I found the initial learning curve incredibly steep. A good beginners
book is necessary. (I liked Bill Ball's "Using Linux".) ISP connections
seem problematic for many. (Bill Unruh's "How to hook up PPP", at
http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html , is a good step-by-step guide,
when you get that far.) People are generally very helpful in newsgroups.
Good luck.
Ian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Configure the Telnet Daemon in RH 6.0 Pentium III - 450Mhz
Date: 20 Jul 1999 01:37:00 GMT
Nicola Taibi wrote:
>
> Hi to all unix gurus,
>
> well, I have installed RH 6.0 on my Pentium III - 450Mhz with
> successful result.
>
> My network card is a 3Com Etherlink XL 3C900-Combo and i can ping from
> the client to my server and viceversa, but cannot telnet from the
> client.
>
> I appreciate any help if someone can point me to how configure the
> Telnet Daemon in my system.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Nick
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Are you trying to telnet in as 'root'? If so, you are not
allowed. It's not a good idea to allow that anyway.
telnetd has to be properly defined in /etc/services and
/etc/inetd.conf. RH6.0 comes that way by default so you
would have to have changed something to have disabled it.
<detective>
[root@dad /etc]# grep telnet services inetd.conf
services:telnet 23/tcp
services:rtelnet 107/tcp # Remote Telnet
services:rtelnet 107/udp
inetd.conf:telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd
in.telnetd
[root@dad /etc]# which in.telnetd
/usr/sbin/in.telnetd
[root@dad /etc]# rpm -qf /usr/sbin/in.telnetd
telnet-0.10-27
[root@dad /etc]#
</detective
Have you installed telnet-0.10-27 on your server (I am using RH6.0)?
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Subject: Re: Data Corruption Problem
From: Errin Watusikac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 19 Jul 1999 17:57:59 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
> The problem seems to be on some level Linux caches and merges
> sequential write requests and in doing so corrupts data. I've got a
> SCSI logic trace showing corruption in the concantenated 64K SCSI
> writes of my multiple 2Kish write() requests. I've tried with some
> recent kernels, but still no change. Can anyone give me a pointer or
> some information on resolving this issue?
I'm no kernel expert, but this sounds like the kind of thing you aught
to be asking of your SCSI controller driver author or on the kernel
developers mailing list.
Lately I've been reading (just for kicks) the "Kernel Traffic" news each
week at http://www.kt.opensrc.org and have read of some kind of disk
corruption in recent kernel that they haven't been able to track down.
I wouldn't be suprised if it's a totally different problem than yours,
but you could check it out. That site has info about the mailing list
too. The driver MAINTAINERS are probably listed in
/usr/src/linux/MAINTAINERS
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Subject: root and user window managers
From: Kyle Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 19 Jul 1999 18:10:21 -0700
What's a good way to be able to have one "desktop" kind of thing running
as root and another as a normal user?
I've been using one window manager (WM) with a blue-background desktop
for user windows and a red-background desktop for root windows. I like
this a lot, but there's no easy way to have menu and button functions
work as root (without writting lots of wrapper programs).
Is there anyway to run two window managers at the same time without
running two X servers? I've considered the latter, but switching
desktops is slow enough (because my WM's background changer is broken
and I have to use slowpoke "setroot") and I doubt if I could tolerate
switching X servers. Anybody found a good way to do it? Do any of
the fancy new desktops/WMs support anything like this?
Post answer only to newsgroup.
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From: Holczhammer Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.kernel.general,redhat.general
Subject: Re: .bash_profile Path question
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 01:31:15 GMT
tpage wrote:
> I need to get a.out and other executables working correctly. Right now I
> can type:
>
> $ ./a.out
>
> or
>
> $ ./executable (where executable is an executable file)
>
> and they will work correctly but if I just type the executable like:
>
> $ a.out
>
> or
>
> $ executable
>
> it will say that the command is not found. I know that I have to modify
my
> Path somehow but I don't know how to do it. Does anyone know?
thanks....
>
> TC
>
> ------------------ Posted via SearchLinux ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
Adding . to Your path will be work fine (I think)
Try this one:
PATH=PATH:.
I did it a long time a go, but I can't examine it, cause I sitting far away
that off-line machine :-(
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From: Chris Gushue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Shells
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 21:28:47 -02-30
Cameron L. Spitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <7mvhoe$vob$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:>Hi,
:>
:>I know there are many different shells available for linux. What are
:>the most popular shells and what are the +'s and -'s for each shell.
:>Currently using bash. I would like to hear all of your opinions, so I
:>hope to hear many threads. TIA.
: Shells are a great thing to have a silly religious war about. Most people
: like whichever one they grew up with. I like the POSIX shells (Bourne,
: ksh, bash) because I read a nice book about shell scripts (_Tricks of
: the Unix Masters_, Russell Sage) and learned their syntax. People who
: read a good book about C shell scripts like C Shell and its clones better.
I started with csh on my university shell - hated it.
Discovered Linux shortly after (back in fall of 1995) and loved bash.
I find it easier to script for (then again, I haven't read books on
scripting for either shell)
: Bash is great. Too big for a rescue floppy, though, and takes some
: configuration. Use ash for rescue floppies.
: COMMAND.COM sucks. It's the only sucky shell I can think of right now.
Luckily there is 4DOS, which makes a DOS command line useful :)
BTW, how useful is that _Tricks of the UNIX Masters_ book for non-newbies?
--
Chris Gushue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ:409207
http://home.thezone.net/~seymour/index.php3
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (*puntero_loco)
Subject: Re: Can someone recommend....
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:43:29 +0200
El Sat, 17 Jul 1999 11:17:36 +0100, Andrew Arbon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
escribi�:
|In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, William
|Wueppelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
|>>Can someone recommend me a good offline news reading program and a good
|>>email editor for X windows, please?
|>slrn is a good newsreader.
(but is not for X)
|I had a (brief) look at that yesterday, but I didn't think that it was
|an offline reader. As I am not in the US with free internet access, I
|need to read my news whilst not connected.
(Poor of us europeans victims of the monopoly...)
I use leafnode+slrn. Try leafnode, it is very easy to configure, it fetchs the
groups you are subscribed an you can read it offline pointing your news reader to
'localhost'.
The only true off-line reader I have seen in Linux is Krn (from KDE), an its for X. A
simple and good X mail reader is K-Mail (also from KDE).
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From: Holczhammer Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mounting problem
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 01:31:12 GMT
Patrick wrote:
>
> when i type "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt", it showed me:
>
> mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda1 as a block device
> (maybe 'insmod driver'?)
>
> why?
>
>
> --
There have no scsi drive on sda1.
Your kernel have module to use scsi drives? (did You added at install?)
If U try to mount a scsi cd use /dev/scd0.
Perhaps the diskID is 0 (sda0)
good midnight.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problem with installing kernel 2.2.*
Date: 20 Jul 1999 01:40:40 GMT
Shekhar Patkar wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a RH 5.1 system that I had upgraded to kernel 2.0.36 (started
> with 2.0.34, then 35....). This kernel works fine. When I tried to
> install
> 2.2.7 and later 2.2.9, I have a problem that after printing the message
> about uncompressing the kernel, nothing gets printed on the screen.
> Things *are* happening, though, because my hard drive makes the same
> sounds as the 2.0.36 kernel, when the partitions run fsck and mount up.
> After some time, since nothing happens, I have to shut off my machine
> by hand and go through the partition check cycle the next time I start.
>
> I've configured the system to exactly the same options as my 2.0.36
> kernel, and for the extra options, I took the default. I've gone through
>
> the HOWTO and couldn't find anything that mirrors my problem....can
> someone help me?
More than a kernel upgrade is required to update to kernel 2.2.x.
I think it may be quite difficult from RH5.1. Perhaps it is time to
pay ~$7US for a cheapbytes copy of RH6.0 and update the whole system.
Best of luck...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Fried)
Subject: Re: VMWARE floppy boot problem
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 15:12:23 GMT
Jeff Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I didn't realize that the VM BIOS even supported booting from diskette,
>but I checked the BIOS option and it looked like it should work - so I
>tried a DOS 6.22 diskette, and it booted fine.
>
>When you attempt to boot, does the diskette light turn on? If not, you
>may want to check the VM BIOS "Boot" option. For the record - I'm
>running VMWare for Linux (registered, not eval), and the guest is NT4,
>running from a "raw disk" partition, not a virtual disk.
>
>Jeff
>
Hi Jeff
I'm not the original poster and I'm glad you have the raw disk
option going well. I have it working on windows 95 but I can't
seem to get the printer to work. Whenever I print I get a
communication error.
I have red hat 5.1 with a 2.2.9 kernel with an HP712 printer.
The printer works fine under linux since I have the ppa
driver. Initially the printer did work under the raw
disk option but it suddenly stopped.
I reconfigured the raw disk option by deleting it
and installing but it did not solve the problem. I
also disabled the bidirectional feature without
any results. I also disabled color printing without
any results. Also the printer port is /dev/lp0 as it
should be.
Do you have any suggestions from what you did with
Windows NT that may be applicalbe to Win 95?
It seems that VmWare likes NT better than 95 or 98.
Thanx in advance
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From: Holczhammer Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Multimedia software
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 01:31:10 GMT
Luis Sismeiro wrote:
>
> Hi to all,
>
> I would like to know if exists software for producing multimedia CDs for
Linux
> like the Macromedia Director. It would be a plus if it could be used in
several
> platforms beside Linux.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards,
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.xoom.com/sismeiro/
> "Save time and energy, recycle source code"
> Remove the ".at" from the email address please.
www.mpegtv.com contains VideoCD player for linux.
I've found an non linear video editor for linux, but beta test was closed
at about july 7. In september of '99 there will be another beta version,
they said. The name I can remember :-(.
There should be a black hole in my brain, sorry :-)
good midnight
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From: Daniel Forester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can Linux read FAT32 partitions
Date: 20 Jul 1999 02:15:24 GMT
Eduardo M Kalinowski was talking... AGAIN...
: Can Linux (I use the 2.2.1 kernel) read Windows 98/OSR2 FAT32
: partitions? If so, is there a special filesystem type to use in the
: mount command (or will vfat work)?
mount -t vfat /dev/hdx /mnt/your_dir_here
(might check me on the syntax, but I think that does it)
--
Daniel E. Forester
Georgia Institute of Technology
http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gte061f/
Black holes are where God divided by zero.
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From: Holczhammer Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,redhat.hardware.arch.intel
Subject: Re: Mounting a FAT floppy
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 01:31:17 GMT
Bernhard Ernst wrote:
> I tried mounting a floppy disk that is FAT (FAT12 if I am correct)
> Using mount -t fvat /mnt/floppy /floppy doesn't work, I know this works
for
> FAT partitions. I tried the same using /dev/fd0 instead of /mnt/floppy
> Any ideas, because in this case using a floppy is my best solution,
E-mail
> costs too much (but it works), and the other Windoze98 machine doesn't
have
> a network card.
>
> Bernhard Ernst
>
> ------------------ Posted via SearchLinux ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
I think fd0 is the correct way, but "mount -t fvat" unusable, so try
mount /dev/fd0 /floppy
try midnights commander (mc) to mount.
Is the floppy really the best way? Have no CD?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (crispb)
Subject: Compiling 2.2.x under RedHat 6.0
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:11:36 GMT
I just recently installed RH 6.0 onto an new machine that I just got.
I cannot seem to compile a new kernel for it. Everytime I try it says
that cpp output pipe is closed and that there was an assembler error.
I did not have any problems compiling a kernel on another machine
under RH5.1. Any suggestions on what I might try.
Thank YOu
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From: "Yogesh Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,ch.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.windows.x.kde,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.ppp
Subject: Re: Kppp/pppd probs
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:41:22 -0400
Everything is fine but there is some access right problem. If you debug that
(which kpp allows means click on details ) you will get a message "cannot
open logfile!"
But you folks try it out as root everything will work fine.
So don't thing that there is any problem with any modem initialization or
your setup. I am checking this problem.
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat 5.2 won't install on Abit BH6!
Date: 19 Jul 1999 21:51:04 -0500
Brad Ball wrote:
>
> Please help! Here are the system specs:
>
> Abit BH6
> Celeron 400mhz (no oc'ing)
> 128mb PC100 ram
> Quantum CR 13.3G hard drive (primary master)
> Acer 40x cd-rom (secondary master)
>
> The drive has Win98 using the first 8gigs. Then there is a 128mb linux swap
> partition, and the remaining 5G is Linux native.
>
The 1024 is a bit below the 8.4G boundary. My 8.4G drive under LBA
has 1027 cylinders.
> The RedHat 5.2 installation works great until we get to the point of
> creating a boot floppy. After inserting a disk (tried Linux formatted, dos
> formatted, and unformatted) and pressing <enter> we just get a generic error
> saying "An error has occured". It doesn't even check the floppy drive.
> Trying to install LILO on the hard drive results in the same error. I have
> seen others with this problem but nobody has offered a solution. Any
> suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>
> ps. The floppy drive works fine in Win98.
>
> Brad.
It looks like you have made it impossible to boot anything but winblows.
You will have to create a small partition somewhere in the lower 1024
cylinder area (all in the lower 1024 area) of about 15M where you will
put /boot then do whatever else you want with the rest.
--
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use Linux for safe and quick internet access
use Winblows to test the latest viruses
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From: "Kin Man Yau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New Sound Blaster Live! driver
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:21:17 -0500
Wow! Beta version 0.3 of SB Live! driver is available at:
http://support.soundblaster.com/files/download.asp?OS=Beta&prod=sblive
It has versions for 2.0.36, 2.2.5-15 and 2.2.10, hope this may help people
who has problem for installing the 0.2 driver.
I tried it out, but I encountered noticeable "jumps" when using X11Amp. When
I switch back to 0.2 driver, the problem disappers. Any one got the same
problem?
It says it supports midi, but I can't find device /dev/midi, anyone knows
how to play midi with sblive ?
Thanks a lot
Charles
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