Linux-Misc Digest #89, Volume #28                Tue, 12 Jun 01 11:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  ICQ Clones in Linux (firewall) (Joe Woods)
  USB Webcam Tool (Bastian Ballmann)
  Re: switching workspaces in Gnome (faeychyld)
  Re: root password problem ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Network failure after activating NTFS read in RedHat 7 (Bart Herps)
  Re: Network failure after activating NTFS read in RedHat 7 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Operating System Not Found - Please Help ("Peet Grobler")
  Re: Network failure after activating NTFS read in RedHat 7 ("Anthony DeRobertis")
  Re: Running Linux under Windows? ("Anthony DeRobertis")
  Re: gnucash can't find gnome-print (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: root password problem (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: Running Linux under Windows? ("Peet Grobler")
  Where are my Zip and CDROM drives? (Me)
  Re: alternative apropos: anyone remember?? (Lee Allen)
  Re: Good GUI mail clients? ("Wayne Osborn")
  Re: The movie Swordfish and Linus Torvalds ("Wayne Osborn")
  Re: Where can I get a precompiled glibc 2.2.x?? ("Sean Dynan")
  Re: Writing an OS from scratch ("bowman")
  Vmware (Bogdan Jeram)
  Re: Operating System Not Found - Please Help (David)
  Re: switching workspaces in Gnome ("Paul Gallant")
  Re: OpenLDAP question (Dustin Puryear)
  Re: Vmware (Frank Miles)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joe Woods)
Subject: ICQ Clones in Linux (firewall)
Date: 12 Jun 2001 01:26:45 -0700

Hi,

I have a dual booting system (Win98 & SuSE71 Linux).

Ideally I'd like to move fully over to Linux. I have compiled several
ICQ clones, including KXicq, official Java ICQ and Licq.

Recently we've had a firewall set up here at work and this has blocked
ICQ access. Using the official Windows ICQ client, the auto-config
program changed my login server port to 21, and ICQ then worked fine.

However, changing the port to 21 on Linux ICQ clones has no affect. 

I have also noticed they both use different login-servers. The linux
clones use login.mirabilis.com and the official windows one uses
login.icq.com. Changing the server to login.icq.com on the Linux
clients also has no affect.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

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From: Bastian Ballmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: USB Webcam Tool
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:37:08 +0200

Hi @ll!!!
I have got a problem with my USB webcam (Creative Webcam 2).
Yesterday I have found a nice driver in the kernel 2.4.3, but I can�t 
get a program to grap prictures or film videos...
I have tried some tools I�ve found on freshmeat, but they didn�t work.
So could anyone tell me a good program to use?
Please, cause it�s the only reason to boot this terrible crashing 
program called Windoze.
Best greets

Bastian Ballmann


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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:36:00 +1000
From: faeychyld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: switching workspaces in Gnome

Paul Gallant wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> I have a stupid question about using Gnome.
> 
> How do I set up my keys so that I can toggle through workspaces easily.  For 
>example, I
> have 4 workspaces set up.  I want to be able to Alt-Tab through them.  I
> could do this in KDE, but how do you set this up in Gnome?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> p

If you mean switching between desktops
use "Alt + F1 to F4".

-- 
-
-
- 
Regards F

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: root password problem
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:29:03 +0200

Thomas Corriher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 13:09:52 GMT, Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  wrote:
>>Richard Kimber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> bot403 wrote:
>>
>>>> Why would you do everythign as root anyways? Its a bad idea to always use
>>>> root. I keep a normal user around and only use root when i have to. Its
>>>> good security and
>>>> linux common sense. Trust me ive done some pretty stupid stuff as root.
>>
>>> I'm always a bit puzzled when people give the impression that one can avoid 
>>
>>Then perhaps you should realize that you are missing something!
>>
>>> using root all the time.  The way my machine is set up I always have to use 
>>> root: to bring the eth0 interface up and down, install new software, run 
>>
>>No you don't. Use sudo for all that.
>>
>>> various security checks, update software, do backups, and tweak the system 
>>> in various ways.
>>
>>sudo.
>>
>>> Perhaps I'm doing things wrongly.
>>
>>Indeed you are.

> Peter, there is no justification for you to act like an arrogant ass.

Eh?

Would you please mind being less rude. 

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bart Herps)
Subject: Network failure after activating NTFS read in RedHat 7
Date: 12 Jun 2001 02:42:33 -0700

After kernel rebuild for NTFS read, my network card (Xircom)is not
recognised anymore. Does anyone have any idee?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Network failure after activating NTFS read in RedHat 7
Date: 12 Jun 2001 09:47:59 GMT

Bart Herps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After kernel rebuild for NTFS read, my network card (Xircom)is not
> recognised anymore. Does anyone have any idee?

Have you recompiled the kernel before, or it's the first time
you compile that kernel version? I would suggest to check the
configuration of your kernel...

Davide


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From: "Peet Grobler" <peetgr at absa.co.za>
Subject: Re: Operating System Not Found - Please Help
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:55:45 +0200

<SNIP>

>I made the transition to Linux after I got hit by a virus for
>the second time.  I finally snapped and said to myself: "I can't
>take it anymore!"  I guess I was overwhelmed by the "Innovative
>Features".  I just can't believe that people still pay money
>for that junk.
>

Excuse me, but I just have to jump in here. I thought about it last night
when I couldn't sleep. I work for a bank. If we (systems development)
develop anything between a small little program or a big system, and it
doesn't work (read: crashes ONCE during the next twenty-odd years of its
life), we get such a load of trouble from our superiors. The people who
requested the system claims they've wasted their money, etc.

Now you get a place called Microsoft. Due to various factors (large-scale
advertising?) they manage to sell a product entitled "Windows 95" (forget
the previous versions). So everybody jumps on the bandwagon and moves to
Win95. They all realize it doesn't work so well, 'cause it keeps crashing
for one. What do they do? BUY WINDOWS 98!!! It's a f*cking laugh. I don't
understand. If I buy something, whether a computer, os, tv, whatever, and it
doesn't work, I WILL NOT buy the same brand ever in my life again.

Sorry, this probably belongs in another newsgroup, but I had to share the
thought. I'm not agains Microsoft because they're trying to take over the os
market. I'm against anyone/anything that sells a product that doesn't work.
Sure, Linux has bugs (Linux has had MANY, MANY bugs since I started using
it). BUT, you get patches, you get upgraded software, without having to pay
huge amounts of money for fixing something that doesn't work. And it's fixed
properly.

Just my 2c.



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From: "Anthony DeRobertis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Network failure after activating NTFS read in RedHat 7
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:58:26 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bart Herps"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> After kernel rebuild for NTFS read, my network card (Xircom)is not
> recognised anymore. Does anyone have any idee?

Check to make sure that is the _only_ change to the kernel config. Also,
make sure you installed modules, if needed.

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From: "Anthony DeRobertis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running Linux under Windows?
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:02:57 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ian
Northeast" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Alternatively, you can run Windows under Linux regardless of Linux
> flavour (if tolerably recent, kernel 2.0.32 minimum) with the same
> software. I do this, it works fine for Windows 3.11, 95, 98, NT4.0, 2K.
> I had this working with kernel 2.0.36 and now 2.2.19.

Wow. Wonder if this would work:

        Linux running on ppc
          Mac-On-Linux running MacOS
            VirtualPC running Windows
              VWWare running linux

Hmmm...

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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gnucash can't find gnome-print
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:15:56 -0400

andy wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I'm trying to compile gnucash 1.6, but configure keeps giving me an
> error:
> GNOME-PRINT not found or wrong version. I installed gnome-print from
> rpm and also compiled and installed it from source (ver .29) without
> errors. I'm using Mandrake 8
> 
> thanks, Andy

Why not get on the gnucash mailing list,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

See how at 
http://www.gnumatic.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user

-- 
 .~.  Jean-David Beyer           Registered Linux User 85642.
 /V\                             Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey     http://counter.li.org 
^^-^^ 7:10am up 4 days, 20:06, 3 users, load average: 2.14, 2.10, 2.07

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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: root password problem
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:21:21 -0400

Thomas Corriher wrote (in part):

>   From the desk of Thomas Corriher

A friend of mine once received a note from his boss (who he did not
much like), with the heading:

"From the desk of [his boss's name]:"

He replied:

"Dear desk, ..."

His boss had no sense of humor and fired him.

-- 
 .~.  Jean-David Beyer           Registered Linux User 85642.
 /V\                             Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey     http://counter.li.org 
^^-^^ 7:15am up 4 days, 20:11, 3 users, load average: 2.02, 2.06, 2.06

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From: "Peet Grobler" <peetgr at absa.co.za>
Subject: Re: Running Linux under Windows?
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:41:30 +0200

<SNIP>

>Wow. Wonder if this would work:
>
> Linux running on ppc
>   Mac-On-Linux running MacOS
>            VirtualPC running Windows
>              VWWare running linux
>

Should work, provided you have enough memory.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Me)
Subject: Where are my Zip and CDROM drives?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:02:30 GMT

I am a total newbie to Linux who added another hard disk and loaded
Mandrake 8.0, to see what it is all about. I have a Zip drive, CDR and
CD_RW on the system. Bios and Windows see them. Linux creates
directories in /dev for them but I cannot find out how to load them,
even as root. Mount does not work, gives message "to many file
systems, or wrong file system"! umount says "not mounted"

System
Asus P5 MB with K6-2-500 and 128 Mb
AGP Video
30G and 13G WD hard drives
Toshiba 40X CDROM and 100M Zip
Creative SB PCI AWE 64
PCI Realtec 10 Base2 Ethernet
Unknown PCI SCSI with Caravelle CD-RW
External USR Modem

Any help would be appreciated

Jim

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Allen)
Subject: Re: alternative apropos: anyone remember??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:08:18 GMT

On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:51:52 +1000, Frank Ranner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>bbum wrote:
>> 
>> Maybe ten or so years ago, I remember-- vaguely, maybe it was a
>> dream?-- something that generated apropos style output of the man
>> database, but with a slight twist.
>> 
>> In particular, if you said '<<foo>> directory', it would produce a
>> listing of all man pages that had 'directory' in their summary.  But
>> the keyword 'directory' would be vertically aligned.
>> 
>> Or something like that.
>> 
>> Obviously, <<foo>> would be replaced with the name of the program I
>> can't remember.
>> 
>> Anyone have a recollection of such a tool, what its name is, and where
>> I might find it? (Or, for that matter, any other useful tools for
>> viewing man pages in an alternative, but useful, fashion??)
>> 
>> thanks,
>> b.bum
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> man ptx

I use 'man -k directory'.  Must first run 'makewhatis' one time.

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From: "Wayne Osborn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Good GUI mail clients?
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:47:19 +0800

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Sam Price"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:17:08 +0000 (UTC) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>> Mahogany definitely does all of these things and I think Balsa does as
>> well.  Evolution may be the way to go in the future.  It has all of
>> these things and its usable.  But I really  wouldn't call it stable.
>> 
>> All are gnome compliant clients.
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> guesswho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > I'm currently using KMAIL, which meets my needs nicely.  However, I'm
>> > looking for other mail clients with support for the following:
>> > 
>> > multiple mailboxes
>> > POP
>> > IMAP
>> > filtering
>> > message searching
>> > mbox
>> > MIME
>> > 
>> > Anyone out there care to recommend a STABLE mail client that supports
>> > the above?  The reason I'm looking is that I'm considering a move to
>> > the GNOME environment.  Client must be GPLed.
>> > 
>> > 
> Sylpheed is a gtk mail/news client that does all the above, it is very
> nice.
> 

I agree, having tried Balsa, Pine, Spruce & Trade Client, Sylpheed does
all I want. The others were nice, but none of them did ALL that I wanted.

Now, if I can just get Sylpheed to display postscript attachement instead
of printing them!!!!

-- 
  Wayne A. Osborn, SCADA Engineer.[dnar AT iinet DOT net DOT au]
  Registered Linux User #212818.  [2.2.16-22-Win4Lin-686] [i686]
  9:40pm  up 2 days,  5:45,  3 users,  load average: 2.01, 2.04, 1.98
  ...Computers don't actually think.
        You just think they think.
                (We think.)

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From: "Wayne Osborn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The movie Swordfish and Linus Torvalds
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:49:33 +0800

In article <9g3g2d$le0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jerry Kreps"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fear gan
>> dia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >The character's name was Axel Torvalds, and he was supposedly one of
>> >the world's top cyber-criminals. If I was Linus I would be talking to
>> >a lawyer right now!
>> 
>> Hey, I'd rather just have a signed copy of the thing on DVD ;)
>> 
>> Linus "I think it sounds fun" Torvalds
>> 
>> 
>> 
> Ok, whose spoofing Linus' email address?
> 
That is no spoof, check the detailed header info.

Hello Sir Torvalds !

-- 
  Wayne A. Osborn, SCADA Engineer.[dnar AT iinet DOT net DOT au]
  Registered Linux User #212818.  [2.2.16-22-Win4Lin-686] [i686]
  9:40pm  up 2 days,  5:45,  3 users,  load average: 2.01, 2.04, 1.98
  ...Computers don't actually think.
        You just think they think.
                (We think.)

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From: "Sean Dynan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Where can I get a precompiled glibc 2.2.x??
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:01:20 +0100

Oops.  I managed to stumble across rpmfind AFTER posting, and now my 6.2
laptop is sporting a new glibc2.2.3.

The system booted okay (apart from sendmail aborting) and the X server fired
up okay.

I'd love to have installed 7.1 but the laptop doesn't have a cd-rom or
sufficient disk space any more for a disk-based install.

TIA.
--Sean.


"Dave Uhring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Sean Dynan wrote:
>
> > Am I missing something?
> >
> > All I want is a precompiled Glibc 2.2.x for my RedHat 6.2 installation
so
> > I can install KDE 2.1.
> >
> > But all I can find are downloadable source tars.  I don't want to have
to
> > build the binaries because I don't think I'll have the disk space on the
> > target machine.
> >
> > And why is GNU's Glibc FTP site passworded???
> >
> > All donations welcome.
> >
> > --Sean.
> >
>
> Installing glibc-2.2.x will, if you succeed, break just about every binary
> on your system making it completely unusable.
>
> Install RedHat-7.1 and you will be much happier.
>



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From: "bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Writing an OS from scratch
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 08:12:13 -0600


"Chen Wang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9g4f22$gtk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi all, I am an OS newbie currently looking to write a small os from
> scratch, in an attempt to learn and apply the os concepts I've learned in
class.

http://www.seasip.demon.co.uk/Cpm/

CP/M was the 8 bit precursor to DOS. Nothing very sophisticated, but it
contains the basics and could be the basis for a home grown OS on one of the
old XT class PC's commonly found in thrift shops and dumpsters for almost
nothing.

Sticking to the real mode will allow you to experiment without getting into
protected mode complexities if you wanted to try preemptive scheduling, etc.




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From: Bogdan Jeram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Vmware
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:05:56 +0200

Hi,

does anybody know if it is possible to run VmWare under the Linux in
text mode or without having VmWare window at all ?


bye

Bogdan Jeram


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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Operating System Not Found - Please Help
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:13:58 GMT

Thomas Corriher wrote:
>
-- snip --
>  
> To completely clean the entire
> drive, you will probably need to erase the Linux partitions first
> using the Linux version of FDisk.  Microsoft's FDisk can not
> touch or properly see a standard Linux ext2fs partition.


If you decide to wipe the disk and start from scratch then if you can
boot into linux with a boot disk or the CD then you can use the
following to wipe the drive though you would have to partition and
format it afterwards.

  !!!!WARNING!!!! 
THIS WILL DELETE ALL PARTITIONS AND
WIPE THE DRIVE CLEAN!!!!

!!!!YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!

 cat /dev/zero >/dev/hdX

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From: "Paul Gallant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: switching workspaces in Gnome
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:53:02 -0400

Hmmm...that doesn't work either....argh.

I'll keep trying...

pg

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "faeychyld"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Paul Gallant wrote:
>> 
>> All,
>> 
>> I have a stupid question about using Gnome.
>> 
>> How do I set up my keys so that I can toggle through workspaces easily.
>>  For example, I have 4 workspaces set up.  I want to be able to Alt-Tab
>> through them.  I could do this in KDE, but how do you set this up in
>> Gnome?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> p
> 
> If you mean switching between desktops use "Alt + F1 to F4".
>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: OpenLDAP question
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:46:00 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 11 Jun 2001 06:00:39 -0700, Alex Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm trying to add an ldif file which looks like:
>
>dn: ou=IT,dc=solid-state-logic,dc=com
>objectclass: organisationalunit
>cn: IT Department
>
>dn: uid=alexp,ou=IT,dc=begbroke,dc=solid-state-logic,dc=com
>objectclass: person
>uid: alexp
>givenname: Alex
>sn: Page
>cn: Alex Page
>
>However, running /usr/local/bin/ldapadd -f my.ldif -x gives me:
>
>adding new entry "ou=IT,dc=solid-state-logic,dc=com"
>ldap_add: Object class violation

First, you need to ensure you have already created an appropriate entry for
dc=solid-state-logic,dc=com before you create an entry for
ou=IT,dc=solid-sate-logic,dc=com. Second, an object class violation usually
means (if I remember correctly--it's been a while) that you are violating the 
schema. Hmm, does the objectclass person actually have the uid attribute? 

Regards, Dustin

-- 
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http://members.telocity.com/~dpuryear
Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
- http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Miles)
Subject: Re: Vmware
Date: 12 Jun 2001 14:36:34 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bogdan Jeram  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>does anybody know if it is possible to run VmWare under the Linux in
>text mode or without having VmWare window at all ?

I don't think so.  Possible means of finding out...

- Have you asked them?
- Have you tried running vmware? (you can get a time-limited copy to test
        at no cost)
- Have you explored their newsgroups?

HTH
        -frank
-- 

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