Linux-Misc Digest #108, Volume #20 Sat, 8 May 99 08:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: Microsoft is the Communist!!! (Peter Mutsaers)
Re: NFS and can't register RPC (Sid Boyce)
OODesigner source code now available (Konstantin Laufer)
Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage (Tesla Coil)
Re: IPCHAINS and Web Server (Adrian Knoth)
Re: How can X be so slow? (Christopher Mahmood)
Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (was: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?)
(david parsons)
Re: Where to get gzip (Christopher Mahmood)
Re: Newbie problem modem is always busy (AnOldCowboy)
ppp problem (Mars)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Michael Powe)
Re: CTRL-S ("Scott.David.Daniels")
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really) (Robert Krawitz)
Re: Compiler for Clustering Computing (Steve)
Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 Boot fails during modprobe of scsi_hostadapter ("R. O'Connor")
Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? ("Ross S. W. Walker")
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Michael Powe)
Printing (Christian Nake)
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From: Peter Mutsaers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Microsoft is the Communist!!!
Date: 07 May 1999 02:24:09 +0200
>> "PO" == Prins Olivier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
PO> You forget that if you use the word communism for those
PO> states, you are very wrong those states ween't even close to
PO> communism. They could, arguably, be in the state of the
No, it is correct to use communist for those states. It is just as
correct as using capitalist or whatever for status such as the US.
PO> dictatorship of the working class. Which always turned out to
PO> be just an ordinary dictatorship of a few ppl, no matter what
PO> other ppl try. The communistic state has never been achieved,
PO> a lot of ppl say it isn't possible because it would an utopia,
PO> it would be paradise on earth which THEY think is impossible..
It is extremely unfair to reason like this. One the one hand, all
dozen of implementations of communism failed (compared with the
original theory), and were corrupted, so doesn't that tell something
about the theory itself?
On the other hand, such so called communists never recognize, when
talking about how bad capitalism or religions are, that those also
were never implemented fully in line with their idealistic theories.
I think history speaks for itself and has shown communism (and
socialism for that matter) to be a dangerous failure, trying to
control and plan the uncontrollable and too complex human behaviour,
thus naturally resulting in corruption and lots of damage.
btw. I don't agree with the start of this discussion claiming GNU is
communist. It is not, since sharing information and products is not
automatically communist. GNU wants to give freedom and choice, which
are contrary to communism (which is evil; ever heard of 'dictatorship
of the proletariat' and the reasonings about the role of the
state?). I woulnd't call it capitalism either, but it sure isn't
communism.
Microsoft on the other hand comes close to the communist states and
their enormous conglomerate industries, going for total control and
domination, having the idea that they know better than yourself what
is good for you.
--
Peter Mutsaers | Abcoude (Utrecht), | Trust me, I know
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | the Netherlands | what I'm doing.
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Powered by FreeBSD (-current). See http://www.freebsd.org
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From: Sid Boyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NFS and can't register RPC
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 22:22:11 -0400
Przem Kowalczyk wrote:
>
> There are 2 computers with linux. Both have NFS server installed and both
> use mounted with nfs directories from the other one. Everything was fine
> till last Monday, when I was trying to mount remote directory (as I used
> to):
> > mount /mnt/grab
mount -o rsize=8192,wsize=8192,udp bumble:/usr2 /usr2b &
[barrabas:/usr1/gcc/glibc-2.1.1]# less /etc/exports
# See exports(5) for a description.
# This file contains a list of all directories exported to other
computers.
# It is used by rpc.nfsd and rpc.mountd.
/ 10.0.0.3(rw,no_root_squash) #the other Linux machine
/ 10.0.0.4(rw,no_root_squash) # The Windows 95 laptop
/ 10.0.0.25(rw,no_root_squash) #Peter's machine when he brings
it here
> and I get:
> RPC can't register (or similiar ;-) )
>
[barrabas:/usr1/gcc/glibc-2.1.1]# rpcinfo -p
program vers proto port
100000 2 tcp 111 rpcbind #This is rpc.portmap on 2.2.x
kernel
100000 2 udp 111 rpcbind
100024 1 udp 716 status #rpc.statd
100024 1 tcp 718 status
100005 1 udp 723 mountd #
100005 1 tcp 725 mountd
100005 2 udp 728 mountd
100005 2 tcp 730 mountd
100003 2 udp 2049 nfs #rpc.nfsd
100021 1 udp 1024 nlockmgr #rpc.lockd
100021 3 udp 1024 nlockmgr
100021 1 tcp 1024 nlockmgr
100021 3 tcp 1024 nlockmgr
> Portmap is running, rpc.mountd and rpc.nfsd too. NFS is compiled into
> kernel. Second computer is configured in the same way (the same versions of
> all programs (mount, protmap) and there is no problem with NFS.
>
I did have one problem where rpc.statd was segfaulting when the package
was compiled with egcs-1.0.3a, so I got a friend to compile it with
gcc-2.8.1 and I am still using it (knfsd-981204), soon I hope to try a
later 1.2.2a compiled with egcs-1.1.2.
Regards
--
... Sid Boyce...Amdahl(Europe)...44-121 422 0375
Any opinions expressed above are mine and do not necessarily represent
the opinions or policies of Amdahl Corporation.
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From: Konstantin Laufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c++,comp.software-eng,comp.object,comp.windows.x,luc.math
Subject: OODesigner source code now available
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 21:46:46 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The ORIGINAL source code of OODesigner, an OO CASE tool for OMT, is now
available.
It may be downloaded it from either of the following URLs:
http://www.comp.pufs.ac.kr/~ktg/ood.shtml
ftp://203.230.73.24/pub/OOD
For further information, please contact the author of OODesigner, Prof. Tae
Gyun Kim, at mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED].
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From: Tesla Coil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 21:31:32 -0500
On 6 May 1999 Brian Moore replied to Andrew Comech:
>> At the same time, PSN is close to 100% in more than 50% cases (all intel
>> users who did not know how to disable PSN).
>
> Neither is 100% identification. (Think shared machines: quite common at
> many businesses.)
Think also, by the time PSNs are on a substantial enough percentage of
machines for projects utilizing them to be widely effective, the Pentium
III will be entering the secondary market. The result will be something
like being able to buy used automotive license plates at a thrift shop, with
the police relying on records of which you had on your vehicle during your
last traffic stop.
I expect PSN nuisance-to-utility will exceed that questioned of MS Word
macros in the aftermath of Melissa. Internet sites will request PSNs for
purposes they are simply believed to serve. The CDA decisions held that
credit card adult verification schemes are too flawed for law, but their use
persists quite as if meaningful. Talk City is planning to do a PSN-secured
kids-only chat room. Haven't these people heard that elementary students
are increasingly accessing the internet via public access terminals at schools
and public libraries? Those will provide one PSN to multiple kids *and* adults.
Ludicrous plan, but will probably steam ahead for sake of "we're concerned
for the welfare of your kids" advertising bullshit.
Tell me whether this is technically possible (and I post it for warning, not
to distribute bomb designs): Remember the Cherynobyl virus? Checking
against the system clock...how old-fashioned. Why be so indiscriminate
with your victims when it becomes possible to torpedo specific machines
by checking against their PSN? Replicates on unaffected carrier systems.
Too rare a disease to be noticed and put into scanware. Targetted system
is whacked upon being identified; attack code erased until opportunity for
reentry. Logical troubleshooting will rule out a virus in the absence of any
local evidence of an epidemic, and after seemingly random crashes, maybe
conclude (correctly in a sense) that it is a manufacturing flaw in the CPU.
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From: Adrian Knoth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IPCHAINS and Web Server
Date: 7 May 1999 23:14:42 GMT
Chris Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If I run IPCHAINS to use a Linux box as a firewall, is it a security problem
> to also run a web server or other services on that same machine? For
every single service is a big security problem... if you are paranoid.
so feel free to open some ports :)
--
bye --> cu --> [EMAIL PROTECTED] --> Adrian Knoth --> http://adi.thur.de
Wozu brauchte man eigentlich Erdn�sse, als es noch kein Fernsehen gab?
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From: Christopher Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How can X be so slow?
Date: 07 May 1999 07:51:46 -0700
then something's not configured correctly...my p200 screams.
what kind of video card, are you using XFree?
-ckm
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From: o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s (david parsons)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (was: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?)
Date: 7 May 1999 19:08:29 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Most of the Linux world seems to be pushing for a better
> Windows/desktop replacement and is driven by a strong anti-WinTel
> motive. Witness KDE developers openly stating that not only are
> they in no way X or Unix programmers, they don't think they should
> have to be. Every day Linux looks more and more like Windows/Mac
> and less and less like Unix, for better or worse.
>
> On the flip side *BSD is mostly pushing for a better Unix and could
> really care less about the traditional WinTel/Mac desktop market.
Doesn't FreeBSD ship with KDE? If the existance of KDE on a system
is an indication that it's aiming at the PC desktop market (a
sensible and LONG OVERDUE decision in the Unix world), FreeBSD is
aimed far more deliberately at the desktop marketplace than Linux is
(there are still major Linux distributions that refuse, on religious
grounds, to ship KDE -- one of those religious grounds is that KDE
is too easy, and thus "not Unix")
I just don't understand that attitude. I'm a system administrator
these days, and I get to maintain NT and Windows machines because
that's where the apps are. Those machines should be running Unix
(FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Linux; I don't care, since they're
all Unix) so I can have a chance of managing the fuckers without
forking out tens of thousands of dollars on proprietary management
toolkits that aren't guaranteed to work past this dot release, and
so I can TELNET IN AND FIX THINGS, instead of flying across the
country to scratch my head, frantically swap hardware, and reinstall.
A Better Unix, IMO, is the Unix you find on every desktop, in every
web server, and in every machine room.
____
david parsons \bi/ ... even if it does run windows explorer.
\/
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From: Christopher Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where to get gzip
Date: 07 May 1999 07:55:52 -0700
your distribution must have come gzip.
-ckm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AnOldCowboy)
Subject: Re: Newbie problem modem is always busy
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 03:13:40 GMT
On 7 May 1999 18:43:09 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) wrote:
>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AnOldCowboy)
>writes:
>>Hi,
>>There is no LCK..modem file in /var/lock, but thanks for the
>>suggestion. Could something be loading on boot that is
>>capturing the modem?
>
>Is there any LCK file there? If something is using any one of the serial
>ports ttyS? cua? modem, it will report as you are noticing.
>Do youhave any other program (eg mgetty, fax, ...) which is using the
>modem?
There are no LCK files there. Is there a way to find out if any other
program is running that would capture the modem? The modem is
on ttyS2. TIA
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From: Mars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ppp problem
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 18:29:44 +0800
I'm setting up ppp connection to my isp. The following is the log:
May 8 17:40:13 localhost pppd[289]: pppd 2.2.0 started by mars, uid 0
May 8 17:40:14 localhost pppd[289]: Connect script failed
May 8 17:40:14 localhost pppd[289]: Exit.
May 8 17:41:19 localhost pppd[313]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
May 8 17:41:45 localhost pppd[313]: Serial connection established.
May 8 17:41:46 localhost pppd[313]: Using interface ppp0
May 8 17:41:46 localhost pppd[313]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cua0
Why i can establish the connection while login as root, but not ordinary
user with su command?
And how can i end the connection? (i just kill the process)
Regards,
Mars
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 07 May 1999 00:57:41 -0700
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>>>>> "Marco" == Marco Anglesio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Marco> On Thu, 06 May 1999 14:46:17 -0700, jik-
Marco> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Oh bull, that may be the case in technical documents and other
>> such, but books for the most part are written because the
>> author wishes to express something. Which, without literacy is
>> something he would be unable to do to such a wide audience.
Marco> I think that you misspelled "printing". And "business". You
Marco> appreciate books, not literacy; in its absence, another art
Marco> form would do just as well. In fact, you more or less
Marco> concede it when you talk about humans finding ways to
Marco> express themselves since the dawn of time.
[ ... ]
Marco> However, thank you for going to such trouble to prove my
Marco> point: reading's only good when you have books to read. You
Marco> confuse the act with the object. Without them - it's
Marco> worthless.
You're confused. Rising literacy rates in Western Europe created the
market for printed material, not the other way around. Reading for
pleasure was practically unknown until around 250 years ago; the
principle motivation of reading until the late 18th Century was
didactic.
With the advent of the bourgeois in the late 18th Century, a new class
of readers emerged: people with time on their hands and a hunger for
self-improvement.
The origin of the novel lay in the concept of "didactic
entertainment." Still, the notion of reading for pleasure did not
take hold immediately. There was a reason why the early novels were
usually titled something like "A True History" -- many readers still
regarded any written texts that were not literally true to be sinful.
The fact that reading is an action associated with a particular object
does not impact on its value within a society in which those objects
are plentiful. Within that framework, reading does have an intrinsic
value. I think it's you who needs to refresh his understanding of the
meaning of `intrinsic.'
mp
- --
powered by GNU/linux since Sept 1997 Penguin spoken here
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Michael Powe Portland, Oregon USA
"Would John the Baptist have lost his head if his name was Steve?"
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From: "Scott.David.Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: CTRL-S
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 20:18:21 -0700
"Here is" triggered the "answerback drum" It was a drum with plastic
legs you could break off to encode a reply block (I must admit I don't
know exactly how many characters long it was at max). It was meant to
positively ID users. If you were attempting to be a hacker, you could
obtain a full drum, and type as it turned to "or" the bits of the
characters you typed with the drum's values (which, with a full drum,
were all zeroes).
-Scott David Daniels
(old fogey: I am one of the oldest people to have learned young, having
first programmed a machine in 1966 while I was between my freshman and
junior year in high school).
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Tony Smolar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : In the olde days of Terminals, this was the method to freeze scrolling text
> : so that it could be read. CTRL-Q resumes.
>
> On a somewhat related topic, what was the the purpose of the "Here is"
> key found on old serial teletype printer terminals and what character
> sequence did it send over the serial line? Did mainframe computers
> make use of this key, or was it for Radio/Landline point-to-point
> communications.
>
> Eric
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From: Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
Date: 03 May 1999 12:47:21 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Costello) writes:
> > You've left out the part where Tightwad Corp. decides that ClosedSQL
> > is a really nice product. So nice, in fact, that Tightwad decides
> > that they really should have it themselves. So they offer ClosedSQL
> > the choice of a buyout on unfavorable terms, or else Tightwad
> > Corp. will make their Smokin' Mirrors OS incompatible with ClosedSQL,
> > write TightSQL based on knowledge they gained in the negotiations, but
> > there's no way ClosedSQL will be able to prove it in court because
> > Tightwad can afford armies of topnotch lawyers, so Closed Inc. loses
> > out anyway.
>
> Yeah. And making it an open source solution would really stop
> Tightwad Corp. from making their OS incompatible with Mirrors?
Tightwad Corp's OS is Smokin' Mirrors. The issue here is Tightwad
making their OS subtly incompatible with ClosedSQL, but of course,
Smokin' Mirrors works just fine with SQL Waiter. Making it open
doesn't stop Tightwad from playing games like that, but ClosedSQL will
be tied less tightly to Smokin' Mirrors, and will get ported to Xunil
and other operating systems.
--
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton
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From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Compiler for Clustering Computing
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 11:57:50 +0000
Shantanu Banerjee wrote:
>
> Khairul Azmi Abu Bakar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : Hello!
> : I'm looking for C/Fortran compiler for my to be 16 nodes of PC clustering
> : system. Any suggestion which one should I try? Thanks in advance.
>
> : Azmi
SuSE 6.0 comes with Beowulf, PVM, etc. Is that what you're looking for?
Regards
Steve
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Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 23:51:39 -0400
From: "R. O'Connor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 Boot fails during modprobe of scsi_hostadapter
Below is Caldera's response and below that my description of my
problem. Their suggestion to run Lisa after booting from the install
floppies fails (not sure what I would do with it if it did work ;-) with
console message: "[header stuff...] lisa: Calling Menu_Main" \n
"Menu_Main: not found" \n "[header stuff...] Menu_Main user abort"
==========================================================================
You need to boot from the lisa disks and add the modules by hand. When
you see the "boot:" prompt hit the TAB key and type in
boot root=/dev/hda1 (or whatever your root partition is)
then log in as root and run
lisa
Now just use lisa to add the drivers at boot time.
--
.......
===================
Product Information
===================
Product: OpenLinux 2.2
Serial Number: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
==============
Problem Report
==============
Synopsis: Boot fails during modprobe of scsi_hostadapter
Hardware Configuration:
Custom-built: Amptron PM-9100, TX3 motherboard, AMI BIOS,
Cyrix M-II, 300 Mhz-equiv (actually 266 Mhz), 64MB RAM, S3
Virge PCI VGA (4MB), Adaptec 1522 ISA SCSI adapter with 3 x
1GB HD's - #1: Win95 C:, D:, E:, then linux root (/dev/sda7), /var,
swap, /tmp, /home partitions. #2: FAT32 single
extended/logical partition, "F:". #3: 2-3 MB unused
partition (spare for boot manager in past), G: (250MB), H:
(250MB), /usr (500MB) partitions. IDE master #1: 40x CD ROM
drive. IDE master #2: 2x2x6 CD RW drive. PCI NE2000 clone
Problem:
Windows and Lizard install would not work -
apparently could not automatically load aha152x
module to see HD's. Lisa install goes OK (after I have it
load aha152x module from suppl. modules diskette), but the
boot process (after finishiing installation) displays these messages:
...
Partition check:
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
Loading rootfs modules...
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2
st: bufsize 32768, wrt 30720, max buffers 4, s/g segs 16.
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2
scsi : 0 hosts.
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k block-major-8, errno = 2
VFS: Cannot open root device 08:07
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:07
This would happen both with booting from 1st SCSI HD, and
from a boot floppy. Win95 runs OK (was on PC first), and
RedHat 5.2 runs OK (used same partitions, but re-formatted
with each Linux installation).
...
===========================================================================
TIA
--
Rory O'Connor - r o o c o n n a t i b m d o t n e t (put 'em
together for my email address)
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From: "Ross S. W. Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?
Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 23:53:06 -0400
If your running true SVR4 with a trusted user system this isn't a
problem.
You can assign users permissions to certain aspects (subsystems) of
the OS
without giving them root.
-Ross Walker
Jesus Monroy, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 06 May 1999 16:18:37 BST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lack Mr G M)
> wrote:
>
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Rolf Marvin B�e
Lindgren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >.....[SNIP]..........
> >|> all of this convinced me that an operating system that does not
support
> >|> an OPERATOR concept is fundamentally single-user. there muse be
a user
> >|> midway between user and root.
> >
> > It might be single-administrator, but it is decidely *not*
single
> >user. I have Unix systems with large numbers of different users
doing
> >disparate things at the same times and each process has rights
based on
> >its uid, of which there are many in concurrent use.
> >
> The point he is making is not relate to wheter "users"
> can accomplish tasks, put rather the sub-administration.
>
> Let me give you an example, if I might.
>
> Let's say you have run an ISP. This ISP has 100 machines.
> Root access is define and well secure. You firmly beleive
> that the machines are secure.
>
> Users have rights and can accomplish the task they need
> on any machine they need. In short, all users are very
> happy and don't require any hand holding or assitance.
> (Boy what a pipe dream I'm building.)
>
> Anyhow, let's say for a moment you assign a task to
> a junior (or senior) admin person to do task on some
> machines.
>
> Now here's the catch. One day you find that all the
> machines have been upgrade to a new buggy version of
> the OS which you never authorized. What do you do?
>
> --
> If you have to read the docs, it's broken.
> I hate making mistakes.
> You can check my spelling at:
http://work.ucsd.edu:5141/cgi-bin/http_webster
>
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 08 May 1999 00:42:18 -0700
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>>>>> "Mike" == Mike Coffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Mike> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Anglesio) writes:
>> And there's freedom from action - if your arm-swinging prevents
>> me from doing something, should I have the right to prevent you
>> from doing it? The latter is the question I was really asking.
Mike> That depends on what you want to do. What do you have in
Mike> mind?
Mike> That was rhetorical, because I don't think this is the right
Mike> place to get into a far-ranging discussion about
Mike> libertarianism. There are places that specialize in that
Mike> and do it ad nausium. I just poked my nose in to correct
Mike> some pretty blatant and obvious misrepresentation of the
Mike> libertarian position. I'll butt out now.
Actually, your one-liner has practically no relation to the
implementation of libertarianism as described both by libertarians
infesting political newsgroups and in magazines like Reason.
The icon of libertarianism is Ayn Rand, a cruel, selfish bitch who
hammered everyone around her in demonstration of "The Virtue of
Selfishness" (the libertarian motto as well as the title of one of her
books).
"My philosophy, in essence, is the concept of man as a heroic being,
with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his life, with
productive achievement as his noblest activity, and reason as his only
absolute." -- Ayn Rand
You'll notice there's nothing in there about avoiding smacking someone
else's nose.
mp
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From: Christian Nake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Printing
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 13:11:06 +0200
Hi,
I'm using an EPSON LQ 100 with SuSE 6.1. I have installed the apsfilter
for the printer.
Whenever I print graphics directly to /dev/lp0 it will be shifted
downwards so that about 20 mm of it will be printed on the next paper.
Resolution and quality is OK.
How is it possible to center grafics on the paper? The problem does also
appear with software that prints directly, eg MuPAD.
Thanks for Help,
Christian
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