Linux-Misc Digest #108, Volume #24               Tue, 11 Apr 00 01:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Why linux will never go beyond geekdom (MrJack of LuLuland)
  Re: Linux structure - linux 101 ("Jon McLin")
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Charles R. Lyttle")
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Charles R. Lyttle")
  what does this message mean? (Patrick O'Neil)
  Re: kernel upgrade/virtual console problem ("David ..")
  Re: Removing ppp? devices (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Rockwell Modem ("David St.Clair")
  Re: Linux Talk - Open to Ideas ("Jon McLin")
  COL 2.3 ("Scott Bate")
  rpc.statd (Patrick O'Neil)
  Re: Linux Maximum File Size (Christopher Browne)
  Re: [Q] Decrypt (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Mail Error: Sender domain must exist ("nerdo")
  Re: lexmark z51 printer and linux ("Stephen N. Opal")
  Re: Linux Talk - Open to Ideas (Pjtg0707)
  Re: rpc.statd ("David ..")
  Re: newbie question (Arun Keswani)
  Netscape and newsgroups (Silviu Minut)

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From: MrJack of LuLuland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why linux will never go beyond geekdom
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:05:48 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Purely because it sucks the big one, no games ! no word !
> KDE....it stinks....Gnome.....amateur hacks with pretty graphics
> 
> --
> Doh
> 

Say, hasn't this Enlightened Guy started flame wars here before?
I'd swear I've seen that name and flying brickbats both together-.

Re posts some of the other M$ wars; I recently read "The Microsoft File, 
The Secret File Against Bill gates" by Wendy Goldman Rohm.

I thought at first it was somewhat prejudicedly anti-M$, but found it was 
based on experience and information. Check it out. B.G. sux-.

James
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: "Jon McLin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux structure - linux 101
Date: 11 Apr 2000 03:16:19 GMT

Your distribution should have come with a complete set of HOWTOs.  However,
some may be dated, so you may wish to view them on the web.  There are many
sites which provide HOWTOs in html, text, and other formats.    I generally
go to:

http://www.linux.org/help/index.html


HOWTOs which may be relevant to your particular needs:
http://www.linux.org/help/ldp/howto/Sound-HOWTO.html
http://www.linux.org/help/ldp/howto/Sound-Playing-HOWTO.html
http://www.linux.org/help/ldp/mini/Soundblaster-AWE.html

Take a look at the index of HOWTOs, so when you run into problems you'll
have an idea of where you might look for answers.

Good luck

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From: "Charles R. Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:14:21 GMT

Christopher Smith wrote:
> 
> "Charles R. Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Christopher Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > "Charles R. Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > ,SNIP>
> > > I sincerely doubt that if MS "sold" Windows for $0 _anywhere_ they
> wouldn't
> > > be hit with dumping charges.
> > >
> >
> > If they sell it anywhere for $0, they have to sell it everywhere for $0.
> 
> Why ?  Nearly every other industry allows things like bulk discounts.
> 
As long as the discount is justifiable. For example, can you show that
charging me $30 for one copy justifies giving you 100,000 copies for a
total cost of $0? Your total cost better be more than my total cost,
even if your per unit cost is less. But that begs the point. MS would be
more profitable over all if it just gave away the OS, and made money
from the applications. After all the OS brings in (I think) on the
average $2-$3 per copy and Office brings in $200-$300.

>SNIP<
> > The OS is free, you just pay for the disks, box, and book.
> 
> Thus it isn't free since it costs money.
> 
The OS doesn't cost anything. I've downloaded it myself several times. I
am, howeer, willing to pay TurboLinux $20 for putting it on a CD for me.
I am not willing to pay RedHat $90 for the same service. Either way, the
OS is free.
> > You can also
> > download them all for free.
> 
> But most don't, that being the point.
> 
So, you want one of my CDs? Send me a prepaid mailer, and I'll send you
the CD for free. MS could do the same thing. Sell Dell computers a CD
containing the free OS for $30, which Dell could then load on 1,000,000
computers, or until the disk wears out. Or Dell could just go and spend
a few hours downloading Windows2000 and save the $30.

> Saying "but it's free" when nearly everyone pays for it, is useless.
> 
Paying is a choice not a requirement. Big difference. 

> > > > If I thought there was a
> > > > snowballs chance in hades of MS adopting such a strategy, I would
> > > > mortgage the farm and buy more MS stock. But Gates is too much of a
> > > > control freak to do that.
> > >
> > > It'd be about as likely as Apple giving away MacOS.
> > If they did that, I would by Apple stock instead. It would be even a
> > better buy than MS.
> 
> But neither of them are likely to do it.  At least not without getting into
> trouble.

Apple and Sun should both decide whether they are in the hardware
business or software business. I think they should both decide that they
make the best hardware for their niche and offer the OS for free with
the hardware. Open up the hardware so others can offer alternatives.
Apple did that at first, but got greedy after Jobs was forced out. MS
wins not because they were so smart, but because the competition was so
dumb.

-- 
Russ Lyttle, PE
<http://www.flash.net/~lyttlec>
Thank you Melissa! 
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From: "Charles R. Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:17:53 GMT

Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> 
> Paul Lew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >This is true. I have Netscape and IE happily coexisting on my Win98
> machine.
> > >I even have Real Player and Microsoft Media Player happyily coexisting
> > >on the same desktop.
> > >
> > But it took a while for Netscape to find out about the windows "default
> > browser" setting as IE would be installed as the "default browser"; forgot
> > what it was, but had an app that just started the unused IE even when the
> > Netscape was set as the "default browser".  So for a time, Netscape was
> > excluded....
> 
> Actually, Netscape did this first.  There are HTML file types that are
> assigned to a browser.  Netscape just naturally set them to itself without
> even prompting the user every time it was run.  Microsoft and Netscape
> agreed to prompt the user before doing it first.
Netscape doesn't have clean skirts in this area. Netscape was the first
to try to make propritary extensions to HTML. They helped me become more
cynical about big corporations looking out for the mark, I mean, user.
-- 
Russ Lyttle, PE
<http://www.flash.net/~lyttlec>
Thank you Melissa! 
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From: Patrick O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: what does this message mean?
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:27:14 -0600

I have LogWatch installed and running on my system.  
Security messages I get in mail always contain this
entry:

Security Warning: The following NFS mounts haven't got the nosuid option
set :
                - Tempus:(pid475) on /net type nfs
(intr,rw,port=1023,timeo=8,re
trans=110,indirect,map=/etc/amd.conf,dev=00000005)

I am not certain how to interpret this since the message says the
following mount ...etc - what mount is it refering to?  There 
is no mountpoint on my system that I can associate with this message
and I don't know what device is dev=000000005.

Can anyone give me some pointers on how to interpret this and
what it is refering to specifically?

patrick

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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel upgrade/virtual console problem
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 22:40:20 -0500

Patrick Sweeney wrote:
> 
> I am using Caldera and I recently upgraded the kernel from 2.2.10 to 2.2.14,
> using the settings from my old configuration for the new kernel.

I would venture to say you answered your own question with the above.
-- 
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org/
ID # 123538

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Removing ppp? devices
Date: 11 Apr 2000 03:45:24 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

]I have a script that checks my high speed internet connection every hour 
]and if it is not connected, it stops and restarts the connection.  

How does it stop the connection?
I would suggest you do killall pppd and wait a couple of seconds.
Note how do you detect that it is not connected. It looks to be like
thay are connected.

]However, what seems to happen is that it keeps adding a new ppp device 
]e.g. ppp0, ppp1, ppp2 etc.  Is there a way to clear these so it always 
]creates ppp0.

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From: "David St.Clair" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Rockwell Modem
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:18:35 -0400

Nope...sorry.  I have that modem.  It's a winmodem. If you really need a
modem for linux, buy an external or something that's not a Winmodem.

David St.Clair

Gioel Calabrese wrote:

> Hi,
> I have a Rockwell HCF 56K Data Fax PCI Modem.  Will it work under Linux?
>
> Thank you,
> Gioel


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From: "Jon McLin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Talk - Open to Ideas
Date: 11 Apr 2000 04:00:45 GMT

I'd start at a higher level:

Ask the question: why does anyone care about what operating system is used?
 
The answer is of course, that people (and organizations) don't buy
operating systems, they buy solutions, and the only value an operating
system has is that it provides support for the capabilities and features of
solutions.  Unfortunately, technical people tend to get wrapped up in the
details of the technology (the "elegance" and features), not whether it
provides optimum value (in itself a very difficult property to evaluate).  

Having floated this idea,  present your existing information on the state
of Linux.

Wrap it up with the following thought:

Given that there is no intrinsic value in an operating system EXCEPT that
it supports applications, only those who directly profit from a proprietary
OS benefit from the proprietary nature of such.  In other words, all but
those particular organizations will benefit from the OS being a commodity
item.

Linux is such a commodity item.   The catch-22 for new computing platforms
has always been the issue of installed base vs. available applications. 
Only technophiles buy platforms for which there are no applications, and
only idealists develop software for platforms for which there are no users.
 With a commodity OS, software vendors can (essentially) simply recompile
to support a new platform.  Hardware vendors can know that a well-supported
OS can be available for a new platform almost immediately, and that a
plethora of applications will be almost immediately available.  Any efforts
that the company might have focused on OS development can instead be
focused on the much smaller task of porting an existing OS to be optimized
for the new hardware platform.

There are other candidates to become a commodity OS: certainly the BSDs,
and perhaps BEOS and Solaris with recent events.  There may (indeed
probably) will ultimately be several commodity OSes: one for embedded
network appliances, another for desktops, another for workgroup servers,
another for enterprise-level servers.  But the transition to the commodity
OS seems inevitable for the reasons outlined above.  So what role will your
company play in this future: follower or leader?





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From: "Scott Bate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: COL 2.3
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:08:02 +1000

Dear Linuxers,

I have been trying to install above OS on an ALi mbd, amd k6 II cpu, adaptec
2940 scsi card, 2g scsi hda, 2g ide hdd, 64mb ram, s3 trio 3d/2x agp video
card, 24x ide cdrom. The caldera web site does not indicate that my h/w is
unsupported. However the installation hangs, everytime, when the graphical
screen indicates that the network card is being scanned. I have tried
installing a 3com etherlink III 3c509b card but same problem. Have read
how-to's, COL gsg, COL web support faq's etc., but no clues. As I did not
buy the full commercial release of COL 2.3, but bought it in a magazine, I
am not sure if I qualify for Caldera's support. Does anyone have any ideas.

Frustrated Linux Installer.



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From: Patrick O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rpc.statd
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 22:33:08 -0600

I ran a security audit on my system this evening using
nessus and get a warning about running rpc.statd.  It
recommends that I disable this service unless I absolutely
need it (I don't...me thinks). 

Just how does one go about disabling this service?  It
is not a service in inetd.conf.  I find a case statement
for starting it in /etc/rc.d/init.d/rstatd but there MUST be
a better way to disable it than by editing a case 
statement.  I have already selected, via linuxconf, that
rstatd NOT be a service...but it runs anyway?

patrick

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Linux Maximum File Size
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:32:42 GMT

Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when [EMAIL PROTECTED]
would say: 
>I've been told that Linux has a maximum file size of 2GB.  Is that
>really true?  I saw a message stating that there were some other file
>systems availiable.  What are their max file sizes?

What you've been told is not true.  

What *is* true is that on 32 bit architectures, the C library
interface that is usually used to access files permits a maximum file
size of 2GB.  On 64 bit architectures, both LIBC and Linux are happy
with Rather Larger Sizes.

There is a LFS interface also available which allows accessing Rather
Larger Files <ftp://mea.tmt.tele.fi/linux/LFS/>; it requires
specifically coding applications to use it, which means that things
like cat, tar, gzip, and such, that are already compiled for you,
won't be able to get past 2GB.

The issue has *nothing* to do with filesystems; ext2 can already
support 2TB files, and the various journalling filesystems are about
as ready for big files as is the Linux "user space" (which is to say,
"not, but better is coming...").

A big deal will be the deployment of NFS3, which supports 64 bit file
sizes.
-- 
Implementing systems is 95% boredom and 5% sheer terror.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/linuxkernel.html>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: [Q] Decrypt
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:32:46 GMT

Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Robie Basak would say:
>On 10 Apr 2000 11:32:16 +0200, JF Bosc said:
>>
>>I'm using SuSE Linux 6.3, and I have to decrypt a file which was encrypted
>>with the "standard" UNIX "crypt" command. However this command is not provided
>>in the SuSE distribution. Is there a replacement, or can I download the
>>command somewhere ?
>
>You can't decrypt a UNIX 'crypt'ed plaintext; it's one way (unless you
>have massive computing power at your disposal).

Um.  Are you actually familiar with crypt(1)?

crypt(1)                  User Commands                  crypt(1)

NAME
     crypt - encode or decode a file

SYNOPSIS
     crypt [ password ]

AVAILABILITY
     SUNWcsu

DESCRIPTION
     crypt encrypts and decrypts the contents of a  file.   crypt
     reads  from  the  standard  input and writes on the standard
     output.  The password is a key  that  selects  a  particular
     transformation.   If  no  password is given, crypt demands a
     key from the terminal and turns off printing while  the  key
     is  being  typed  in.   crypt encrypts and decrypts with the
     same key:

          example% crypt key <clear.file>encrypted.file
          example% crypt key <encrypted.file| pr

     will print the contents of clear.file.

ahrdeb01:hd1adm:/tmp> cat > sample.out
Now is the time for all good men.
ahrdeb01:hd1adm:/tmp> crypt key < sample.out > sample.encrypted
ahrdeb01:hd1adm:/tmp> crypt key < sample.encrypted 
Now is the time for all good men.

Sure seems like a symmetric cipher to me...

Note thus:
     crypt implements a  one-rotor  machine  designed  along  the
     lines  of  the  German Enigma, but with a 256-element rotor.
     Methods of attack on such machines are  widely  known,  thus
     crypt provides minimal security.

There isn't an "official GNU equivalent" to crypt, but the gentle user
might wish to avail themself of a reasonable alternative such as
<http://mcrypt.hellug.gr/>, or, in RPM form,
<http://eclipt.uni-klu.ac.at/rpm2html/contrib/libc6/i386/\
enigma-1.2-6.i386.html>.
-- 
"It's a pretty rare beginner who isn't clueless.  If beginners weren't
clueless, the infamous Unix learning cliff wouldn't be a problem."
-- david parsons
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/crypto.html>


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From: "nerdo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Mail Error: Sender domain must exist
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:18:59 -0700

The error that you are receiving is due to NOT having the appropriate DNS
configuration.  When  two SMTP servers negotiate a transaction the DNS table
is queried to determine if the MX record exists.  I am assuming your domain
is pc and your host name is linux.

Raul Trujillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Hya,

I have a problem while trying to send out mail with SendMail. It
doesn't seem to go anywhere to but to my 'mbox.' This is the error I get:

Content-Type: message/delivery-status

Reporting-MTA: dns; linux.pc
Arrival-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 01:50:39 -0700

Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Action: failed
Status: 5.5.2
Remote-MTA: DNS; nt-server.metalsurfaces.com
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 501 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender domain must exist
Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 01:50:40 -0700

--BAA00630.955356640/linux.pc
Content-Type: message/rfc822

Return-Path: <root>
Received: (from root@localhost)
by linux.pc (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA00628
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 01:50:39 -0700
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 01:50:39 -0700
From: root <root>
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: testing linux


This is the error in my 'mbox.' Does someone know what configuration
I'm missing?

Thanx...

Raul Trujillo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: "Stephen N. Opal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lexmark z51 printer and linux
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 22:32:59 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hi All
> Has anyone had any success in getting the lexmark z51 printer working under
> linux?  I noticed a driver written by a 3rd party, but don't won't to go out
> and buy this printer if its not going to work correctly.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> 
> Regards Nick

Hello Nick.

I have a Lexmark Z51 printer working under Redhat 6.1 with third party
development software designed to install via rpm.

I had to install a modified version of ghostscript 5.10 customized for
the
7000 line of Lexmark printers.

Look at the web page http://bimbo.fjfi.cvut.cz/~paluch/l7kdriver/  

(that's "L" seven "K" driver)

It doesn't take full advantage of the Z51, no color, limited resolution
range (600x600 only) and the specialty page sizes have some problems 
(like 3x5 cards), but standard formatted print out from emacs, 
applixware, star office all print clean and respectable documents.

-- 
Stephen N. Opal
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                  www.ais.org/~sno

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pjtg0707)
Subject: Re: Linux Talk - Open to Ideas
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:46:23 GMT

On 11 Apr 2000 04:00:45 GMT, Jon McLin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'd start at a higher level:
>
>Ask the question: why does anyone care about what operating system is used?
> 
>The answer is of course, that people (and organizations) don't buy
>operating systems, they buy solutions, and the only value an operating
>system has is that it provides support for the capabilities and features of
>solutions.  Unfortunately, technical people tend to get wrapped up in the
>details of the technology (the "elegance" and features), not whether it
>provides optimum value (in itself a very difficult property to evaluate).  
>
>Having floated this idea,  present your existing information on the state
>of Linux.
>

Precisely. Apps sell machines and OS, not the other way around.

>Wrap it up with the following thought:
>
>Given that there is no intrinsic value in an operating system EXCEPT that
>it supports applications, only those who directly profit from a proprietary
>OS benefit from the proprietary nature of such.  In other words, all but
>those particular organizations will benefit from the OS being a commodity
>item.
>
>Linux is such a commodity item.   The catch-22 for new computing platforms
>has always been the issue of installed base vs. available applications. 
>Only technophiles buy platforms for which there are no applications, and
>only idealists develop software for platforms for which there are no users.
> With a commodity OS, software vendors can (essentially) simply recompile
>to support a new platform.  Hardware vendors can know that a well-supported
>OS can be available for a new platform almost immediately, and that a
>plethora of applications will be almost immediately available.  Any efforts
>that the company might have focused on OS development can instead be
>focused on the much smaller task of porting an existing OS to be optimized
>for the new hardware platform.
o
Another issue with well-supported OS is a well documented API
, which Linux doesn't really have. This is one of my pet peeves with
Linux: there doesn't seem to be any stable API. Kernel changes from 
1.2.x to 2.0.x to 2.2.x were drastic, and it looks like another major change
is coming for 2.4.x. No sane company out there is going to put any significant
development efforts on apps or device drivers that will be problematic in 
only a few short months.
 

>
>There are other candidates to become a commodity OS: certainly the BSDs,
>and perhaps BEOS and Solaris with recent events.  There may (indeed
>probably) will ultimately be several commodity OSes: one for embedded
>network appliances, another for desktops, another for workgroup servers,
>another for enterprise-level servers.  But the transition to the commodity
>OS seems inevitable for the reasons outlined above.  So what role will your
>company play in this future: follower or leader?
>
>
>
>

You can get Solaris 8 for 75 bucks to cover the cost of media and manuals.
With the stability of Solaris and kind of support enterprise customers can
count on from Sun, why would they even want to fool with Linux? Is it any wonder
that virtually all of the mission critical softwares are ported over to 
HPUX, AIX and Solaris etc except Linux?



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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rpc.statd
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 23:48:50 -0500

Patrick O'Neil wrote:
> 
> I ran a security audit on my system this evening using
> nessus and get a warning about running rpc.statd.  It
> recommends that I disable this service unless I absolutely
> need it (I don't...me thinks).
> 
> Just how does one go about disabling this service?  It
> is not a service in inetd.conf.  I find a case statement
> for starting it in /etc/rc.d/init.d/rstatd but there MUST be
> a better way to disable it than by editing a case
> statement.  I have already selected, via linuxconf, that
> rstatd NOT be a service...but it runs anyway?
> 
> patrick

/etc/rc.d/init.d/rstatd stop

Then as root enter the command "setup" and remove the asterisk from in
front of it. This will stop it from being started the next time you
boot.

-- 
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org/
ID # 123538

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From: Arun Keswani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: newbie question
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 00:44:04 -0400

Just to update everyone on what is going on. I tried most everything that
everyone
suggested. I started out by going into linuxconf. I set up the eth0 adapter
using the dhcp option and specified tulip as the module. This added a line
to the conf.modules file in /etc automatically. I then tried ifconfig, but
nothing
came up. When I am in the control-panel the eth0 shows up but it is inactive.
When
I try to activate it , it just tried to obtain an ip address for a while, during
which
time if you type "ifconfig" the card shows up. But then it gives up "Operation
failed"
and the card is no longer seen if you type ifconfig.

Now I am not too sure what is going on. I tried to compile the driver that I
got with the card, but I suspect that it was designed for an earlier kernel.
At any rate it fails giving me various errors about arguments not being the
correct number. I had a look at the code, but could not decipher anything.
Something to do with pointers. So that was a no go.

I am willing to take suggestions here. Do you folks think that the card is being

recognized or that the driver is the right one, after all the card does show
up in the control panel  ? Or is it a problem with the DHCP. Incidentally,
as you may have gathered from the previous postings, this is a strange case,
because the tech who set up the service, used DHCP in windows , but
when I contacted @Home , they gave me an IP, gateway add, dns numbers
etc. So I am not completely sure if I should DHCP or static. I have tried the
static settings to no avail too. Incidentally the DHCP works under windows.

So I am wondering should I throw the noname card out the window and buy
something more conventional ? Your ideas, suggestions would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks

A.


Hugh Lawson wrote:

> On Sat, 08 Apr 2000 16:13:31 -0400, Arun Keswani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Leonard,
> >
> >Thanks for the input. It turns out that they have given me an IP address,
> >so I thought it was static, but when the person setting up the cable modem
> >came in, he did not put in an IP address, not a subnet mast etc, but he
> >did check the box that says Use DHCP for Wins . This is under Windows
> >of course. So I am really confused now. It seems that they have assigned
> >me an IP address, but they want me to use DHCP. Does that make any
> >sense. It does not to me . Maybe it is for consistency, so that they do not
> >give out more IP addresses than they have. The @Home network does
> >not support Linux, so I cannot get any help from them. I will try what you
> >said and let you know what happens.
>
> I don't know about your isp.  I have a cable modem with RoadRunner.  The
> cable company installed the hardware and the Win95 software.  I did the
> Linux by guesswork:
>
> Step 1.  insmod the kernel module for my NIC
> Step 2.  start the dhcp client for RH 6.1, thats "pump"
>
> That was it.
>
> --
> Hugh Lawson
> Greensboro, North Carolina
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Netscape and newsgroups
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 00:58:24 -0400

Lately I've been experienced the following weird thing.
Netscape crashes (bus error) when I try to read comp.os.linux.setup.
Every single time I try. I open "communicator",
it lists the groups I'm subscribed to, starts to download the headers
and then it disappears. The problem started about
a week ago. Has anybody experienced this? I know about bus errors and I
know netscape sometimes does that. I just don't understand how it
consistently crashes on comp.os.linux.setup while the other newsgroups
are fine. Any suggestions? I'm running 4.07-1. The system is RedHat 6.0
with kernel 2.2.14.

Thanks!


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