Linux-Misc Digest #115, Volume #20 Sat, 8 May 99 18:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux partition not recognized? ("jeff m.")
Re: mount failed: invalid argument ("jeff m.")
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Jerry Lynn
Kreps)
Re: Symlinks and LaTeX/TeX (Mark Tranchant)
Re: My 227 kernel won't boot :-( (Adrian Knoth)
Linux page on my website (new) ("William B. Cattell")
audio recording software (Peter Herrington)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Tesla Coil)
Re: where to put libjpeg.so , libpng.so files ? (Marc Mutz)
Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (Roberto Alsina)
Re: Linux and Windows 2000 ("William T. Trotter")
Re: does linux support compressed binaries? (Kim DeVaughn)
Re: How to access /dev/hdaX as a character device? (William Burrow)
groff 1.11 make error (Arne Pierstorff)
cron-problem under redhat 5.2 (Bruno.Voigt)
Re: does linux support compressed binaries? (Tom Fawcett)
Re: Simple C question... ("D. Vrabel")
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From: "jeff m." <none>
Subject: Re: Linux partition not recognized?
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 14:58:53 -0500
If your whole slave drive is formatted in Ext2 (or anyother file system for
that matter), Windows, in its Infinite Knowledge, will not acknowledge it.
If you by chance still have PM, you can see it from there. But windows
itself will not see it
nails <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I installed linux on my hard drive, then i tried to reduce my windows
> partition using partition magic which then very kindly "hung" mid way
> through! I then decided to use my hard drive for Linux only(2gigs) as
> i could not access windows at all!
> I then added another hard drive (4gigs) and installed windows 95 as a
> primary drive leaving my original hard drive as a slave with linux
> installed.
> The problem i now have is that my primary (windows) doesn`t recognize
> that the slave drive exists!
> When installing linux after the "big hang" i formatted the entire hard
> drive as a linux partition!!
> Can anyone help me with this one??
> please feel free to e-mail me direct, any help would be much
> appreciated!!!!!!
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From: "jeff m." <none>
Subject: Re: mount failed: invalid argument
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 14:55:12 -0500
I had the same error when I tried to (re)install 5.2 from a CD. My machine
already had a working distribution on it..and I figured I'd just as well
reformat the HD and start clean. That seemed to solve it. Sorry, cant give
anymore details than that...
Douglas Van De Motter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm getting this error message when trying to install via ftp from NT 4,
> IIS 3 site. Everything seems to be fine until after the file systems are
> formatted and the packages are just about to be installed, then I get a
> dialog box with the subject error message. I've done this type of
> install before and there were no problems, so I'm thinking it has
> something to do with the linux box, but honestly I really have no clue.
> btw, I already changed the linux file names so they can be recognized
> linux box, as I had previously.
> Any ideas?
>
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 07:44:10 -0500
"Joshua E. Rodd" wrote:
>
> Marco Anglesio wrote:
> > On the contrary; the government's big-money development has created
> > considerable benefits. The US has near-universal literacy, for example;
> > you wouldn't have that (and hence wouldn't have a modern industrial
> > economy, much less be moving into the information age) without public
> > schools and public universities.
>
> Literacy was around 99% in the late 19th century, before there were
> educational systems funded by federal or state governments on a
> widespread scale. Since the implementation of universal government
> education, literacy has declined.
Data demonstrates that illiteracy and poverty percentages in the USA
were in steady decline until 1965, when they began climbing again.
While FDR's "New Deal" Social Security program has been helpful to many
elderly who were unable, for reasons of ability or knowledge, to prepare
for retirement, the results of Johnson's 1965 "Great Society"
legislation was to produce the "Grate Society". It caused the
destruction family structure amoung the poor, driving the fathers out
and leading to "single-mom" families. Few single-moms are
knowledgeable, skilled or educated enough to earn a good living and
raise kids at the same time. Most are on welfare and/or ADC. Males
were reduced to unresponsible sperm donors. In "the latch-key kid"
environment only the exceptionally self-motivated kids took school
seriously. The gang replaced the father to an even greater extent.
A similar destruction of retired couple's marital bonds resulted when
the "Great Society" Medicade and Medicare programs were enacted. Greedy
pharmaceutical companies and doctors began suckling at the new
government teat and were soon taking more for goods and services than
ethics would require. The payments were greater for single, indigent
persons, so married persons got divorced and just lived together so they
could obtain at least some medical benefits. That is how much greed has
driven up the "cost" of health care in the USA. I had an emergency
appendectomy in 1962. The total cost for seven days in the hospital,
the operating room and supplies, the surgery and doctors fees came to
$753.50. BC/BS paid everything. The same operation today: only three
days hospital stay would be allowed, even the janitor sends a bill (it
seems) and the total cost would be between $12,000 to $15,000.
Insurance will only pay %80 of the "usual and customary" fees, a
euphemism meaning that only about %50 will be paid, except for some
policies which have a cap (rather high) on out of pocket expense.
While the Liberals/Socialists were "concerned" for the less fortunate
and demonstrated their "compassion" by enacting planks from Karl's
Manifesto, the result has been to create a bigger mess than ever. Now
we have entrenched in government large bureaucracies whose only reason
for existing (since the programs they manage have proven to be utter
failures) is to ensure their own existance. They are well paid, too.
And, they are growing. With peoples attempts to escape the
economic/health misery enforced by the oppressive bureaucracies, new
bureaucracies were created by our "concerned" legislators to plug the
"leaks" and to spread the misery to larger sections of the population,
and conveniently exempted themselves from compliance to the laws they
were jaming down the throats of everyone else. They KNEW what
misery/hassels/oppression they were creating. Now, doctors who don't
want to participate in Medicade/Medicare (and hence, cannot be accused
of the common practice of double-dipping - charging both the patient and
the gov insurance), cannot accept payment for services not covered by
Medicade/Medicare (and there are many) from a person receiving
Medicade/Medicare, even if the patient is the one requesting and
voluteering to pay for the service above and beyond what
Medicade/Medicare will pay. Bill of Rights? A dead document.
--
JLK
Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is
right.
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Symlinks and LaTeX/TeX
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 13:40:43 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Easy bit of C programming that. The main() function gets passed two
parameters argc and argv, which give the number of command line
arguments and a pointer to a list of them. All the program has to do is
look at argc(0) (or is it argv...?) to find out what it was called as.
You can probably do a similar thing with a shell script, and get that to
call appropriate real executables.
And yes, it is quite common. Anther example is gzip/gunzip and
bzip2/bunzip2.
Mark.
Andrew_Luke NESBIT wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Being pretty new to Linux and the TeX system, I discovered something that I
> can't quite understand that maybe one of you gurus out there may be able
> to help me?
>
> Okay... here's the problem:
>
> If I have a file written in LaTeX source, say, "LATEX_SOURCE.tex", and I
> execute:
>
> latex LATEX_SOURCE.tex
>
> this command works as expected.
>
> However, typing:
>
> tex LATEX_SOURCE.tex
>
> results in TeX giving all sorts of error messages about undefined macros,
> etc, etc, which I would also expect.
>
> However, on examination of the file "latex" in my /usr/bin directory, I
> notice that "latex" is simply a symlink to the file "tex" in /usr/bin.
>
> So... the question is, when I invoke latex and hence essentially run the
> file "tex" via the latex symlink, how on earth does tex know that it has
> been invoked by the latex symlink, and hence "know" to process the file
> LaTeX-style?
>
> BTW, I am using the (latest?) distribution of teTeX.
>
> Also, is this common practice on Unix based systems to have different
> programs invoked in this way? For example, I also notice that I get
> different results when invoking "vim" as opposed to "vi", where again,
> "vi" is a symlink which only points to "vim"
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Andrew Nesbit
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From: Adrian Knoth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My 227 kernel won't boot :-(
Date: 8 May 1999 13:50:01 GMT
David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Linux distro: SuSE 6.0
oh no ! that's the problem.
do you have a suse-kernel-source or the official one from ftp.kernel.org ?
can you tell me the last message of your booting ?
--
bye --> cu --> [EMAIL PROTECTED] --> Adrian Knoth --> http://adi.thur.de
Der beste Packer: DEL *.* (100% Kompression!!) (Fuck-DOS)
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From: "William B. Cattell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux page on my website (new)
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 15:33:08 GMT
I've just published a Linux page on my site. It's nothing special, just
talks about the hardware config I'm running and gives a bunch of my
favorite Linux-related links. Most of the links will be of interest to
new Linux users since I've been getting back into it lately. Stop on by
and check it out at;
http://members.home.com/wcattell/linux.html
The page was constructed with Netscape Composer running under Linux
2.2.6. I'm also playing around with Star Office 5.0's HTML capabilities
to see if that's any easier to use.
BIll
--
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http://members.home.com/wcattell
==============================================================
Park not thy Harley in the darkness of thine garage, that it
may collect dust for want of being oft ridden. Ride thy Harley
with thy brethren, and rejoice in the spirit of the road.
==============================================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Herrington)
Subject: audio recording software
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 20:44:12 GMT
Hi folks
Is there any ausio recording software that will work with Mandrake
5.3(redhat 5.2)
so far all that I have tried will not ./configure or make properly.
I am hoping there will be a .rpm program available.
Thanx/Pete
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From: Tesla Coil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 10:03:50 -0500
On 8 May 1999 Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote:
> How come we haven't heard of this flagrent violation in the news?
> Videos of a stream burning with a visible blue flame at night is Dan
> Rather's dream story or would certainly be the center piece of a
> Nightline investigation. Well, maybe not Nightline - the temptation to
> spike the flames would be too great.
>
> Name the factory and location, Mike. I want to research this one.
http://www.epa.gov/superfund/sites/npl/nar1476.htm
"In 1979, the Illinois Environmental Protection Agency (IEPA)
received complaints about fires and smoldering in Dead Creek."
The burned dog incident preceded my brief job assignment in the
area in the early 1990s, by which time a fence had been erected.
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Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 10:50:32 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where to put libjpeg.so , libpng.so files ?
Mihaly Gyulai wrote:
>
> I tried to install 'amaya' package, and it says : libjpeg.so.62, and
> libpng.so.2 needed...
>
> Where to put these files ?
>
> I have libpng.so.2 in /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib, but
> 'amaya' can't find it there...
>
> --
> Mihaly Gyulai
> http://www.freeyellow.com/members5/gyulai/
>
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Under our SuSE dist they are located under
/usr/X11R6/lib.
Marc Mutz
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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 21:31:39 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Peter Mutsaers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> "MW" == Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> Of course you can run KDE on FreeBSD (I do, but only to support a
> >> few KDE based apps). Does FreeBSD push KDE, GNOME, and the rest of
> >> the desktop style code the way Linux does? No, not in the least.
>
> MW> How does `Linux' push KDE or GNOME? Hint: Linux doesn't. Maybe the
> MW> distributors do. Maybe the community does. Linux doesn't.
>
> No, but the distributors (esp. Redhat) do a lot of the Linux
> development (that is, development on packaging distributions and doing
> desktops). Part of this effort had better be spent on improving the
> kernel, doing sane libc development etc.
Distributors do a *tiny* part of development. And if you only count the
development that's used outside of their own distribution, it's even
smaller.
The free software project that has more "distributor effort" behind it
is GNOME, and I would be surprised if 25% of it was paid for by RH.
--
Roberto Alsina (KDE developer, MFCH)
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From: "William T. Trotter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and Windows 2000
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 15:58:43 GMT
Ewan Dunbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 06 May 1999, William T. Trotter wrote:
> >Does the NTFS driver which can be compiled into
> >a linux kernel work with the new version of NTFS
> >which is used with Windows 2000?
>
> Windows 2000? IIRC, "is" is only used for the present tense, not the
distant
> future.
>
> ------------------------------------------------
> Ewan Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ------------------------------------------------
> Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at
> http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.html
> ------------------------------------------------
>
++++++
Windows 2000 Beta 3, Release candidate 1, also known as
Build 2031 was made available to beta testers in late April. It is also
available publicly for some $50. This reply is sent from a machine
running this OS. It also dual boots into RedHat 6.0 running a hand
built 2.2.7 kernel.
We can argue about the merits of the competing OS's, but that
is not my intent. Only to say that some relatively large number of
people in the world will either want or need to use both Linux and
a Windows product. So asking for help in setting up a dual boot
installation in which the Linux side reads (and someday maybe even
writes to the Windows side) seems a legitimate post to
comp.os.linux.misc. Tom Trotter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim DeVaughn)
Subject: Re: does linux support compressed binaries?
Date: 08 May 1999 21:42:08 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tom Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
| > I also know of a scheme that could be used at Netcom (SunOS) when I
| > had an account there, wherein the gzip'd binary would be appended to a
| > small shell script, which would uncompress the binary append, and then
| > exec it. This scheme (mostly) worked, but could cause problems with
| > signal handling (^Z, etc), in some circumstances.
| >
| > Does linux have such a mechanism available (if there is no transparent
| > mechanism)?
|
| I don't know about native support, but the second option does exist.
| gzexe, part of the GNU gzip utilities, will compress an executable and
| replace it with a shell script that uncompresses and runs. There are a few
| security considerations. "man gzexe" should explain everything.
Thanks for all the pointers to gzexe(1) ... looks like that'll do the
trick (signal problems, aside).
/kim
=======================================================================
"Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced."
--Cleon I
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: How to access /dev/hdaX as a character device?
Date: 8 May 1999 21:38:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 8 May 1999 22:54:38 +0200,
Petter Nilsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have been unable to find the character devices to access harddrive
>partitions. Using character device access is the recommended method when
>using Sybase Adaptive Server Enterprise, and it's separate devices in /dev
>on HP-UX, but I have been unable to find this on Linux. What gives? Where
>are they?
They aren't on Linux, that is for sure. Documentation/devices.txt certainly
doesn't turn up any hd disk character devices.
--
William Burrow
Copyright 1999 William Burrow
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arne Pierstorff)
Subject: groff 1.11 make error
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 23:50:04 +0200
GNU-Linux Kernel 2.0.33 (former SuSe Linux 5.2), gcc 2.7.2.1 . While
trying to make groff 1.11 I get this message:
[...]
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/groff-1.11/tmac'
for f in tmac.e tmac.doc tmac.doc.old doc-common doc-ditroff doc-nroff doc-syms; do \
rm -f $f-s; \
sed -f ./strip.sed ./$f >$f-s; \
done
touch stamp-strip
if test -n ""; then \
for m in ; do \
rm -f $m-wrap; \
echo .cp 1 >$m-wrap; \
echo .so $m >>$m-wrap; \
done; \
fi
/bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `;'
/bin/sh: -c: line 1: `if test -n ""; then for m in ; do rm -f $m-wrap; echo .cp 1
>$m-wrap; echo .so $m >>$m-wrap; done; fi'
make[2]: *** [stamp-wrap] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/groff-1.11/tmac'
make[1]: *** [tmac] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/groff-1.11'
make: *** [all] Error 2
Any clues?
--
Arne Pierstorff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | "IF YOU CAN'T WIN BY REASON,
http://home.t-online.de/home/arne.p/ | GO FOR VOLUME."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruno.Voigt)
Subject: cron-problem under redhat 5.2
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 21:55:33 GMT
Hi there!
On a Red hat 5.2 system I have configured a crontab entry under a
non-root account calling a perl script once a day.
This main perl script simply calls severals other perl scripts via
system() synchronosly one after one regardless if the previous script
failed.
These called scripts do some work for some long time, eg. longer than
a hour transforming some data files.
The strange behaviour is that if the main script is run under cron
it does not call all its sub-perlscripts.
If one of the called sub-perl-script needed more than an hour or so
the following system() calls to the other scripts are not performed.
The sub-scripts do some output that does not show up in the logfile.
If the main-script is run directly under the corresponding
user-account it does successfully call its list of sub-perl-scripts.
Is there some kind of runtime limitation built in cron
that prevents cron job from running longer than some amount of time??
What else must be considered when running perl-scripts under cron?
Any hints are appreciated,
bye, Bruno // [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Tom Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: does linux support compressed binaries?
Date: 08 May 1999 12:09:07 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim DeVaughn) writes:
> I just signed up with an ISP that is running linux.
>
> One thing that I haven't been able to determine is whether or not there
> is some way I can "compress" (in some fashion) the binaries that I'll
> be putting in my ~/bin, and have them automatically loaded/executed.
>
> I ask, because this is something that is supported transparently at my
> old ISP (running FreeBSD) ... all one needs to do is gzip the binary,
> and rename it to eliminate the .gz extension. The loader does the rest.
>[clip]
>
> I also know of a scheme that could be used at Netcom (SunOS) when I
> had an account there, wherein the gzip'd binary would be appended to a
> small shell script, which would uncompress the binary append, and then
> exec it. This scheme (mostly) worked, but could cause problems with
> signal handling (^Z, etc), in some circumstances.
>
> Does linux have such a mechanism available (if there is no transparent
> mechanism)?
I don't know about native support, but the second option does exist.
gzexe, part of the GNU gzip utilities, will compress an executable and
replace it with a shell script that uncompresses and runs. There are a few
security considerations. "man gzexe" should explain everything.
Regards,
-Tom
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Simple C question...
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 17:16:22 +0100
On Sat, 8 May 1999, Ian Hay wrote:
> Julio De Gregorio wrote:
> >
> > Hi!,
> >
> > I'm trying to re-compile a program that i did with Borland C.
> > I used the 'getche' function. There doesn't seem to be a function
> > like that under gcc... (at least in the standard libraries).
>
> There certainly isn't. conio.h is chock full of non-standard console
> functions. You'll have to learn curses. "man ncurses"
Of course. Nothing in conio.h is standard. What do you expect?
> > I need a function to read a character from the keyboard without echoing
> > it to the screen.
David
--
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
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