Linux-Misc Digest #115, Volume #27 Thu, 15 Feb 01 06:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Dave Martel)
alter table in mysql ("Wong Ching Kuen Frederick")
Re: Stack size for automatic variables in RedHat Linux ("Arthur H. Gold")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Stack size for automatic variables in RedHat Linux (Paul Kimoto)
Real Audio ("Dale Stewart")
Booting Linux on Windows Computer. (Harsh Strider)
Re: Real Audio (Bingus)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Dave Martel)
Help with ipmasqadm (Warren Bell)
LFS and lilo (Gerry Jacobs)
.htaccess ("JJ")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Keyboard mapping and sterling symbol... (Jem)
Re: File system/Superblock problems ("Eric")
need a app to erase a cdrw (Glitch)
stupid ./configure script (Glitch)
Re: ksh script problem: pwd works differently for ksh then linux binary file (Shai
Kedem)
ksh pwd - still have problems (Shai Kedem)
Re: stupid ./configure script (Eggert Ehmke)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (John Hasler)
Re: need a app to erase a cdrw (Esa Tikka)
Re: kde without windows borders (Dirk Groeneveld)
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From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:16:55 -0700
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 04:36:06 GMT, "Peter T. Breuer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Agreed. It is after all, very difficult to program a computer using
>religious beliefs as a basis for your programming. I tend to view that
>as evidence that scientific belief is qualitatively different, since
>believing in scientific principles like observation, no-interpretation,
>experiment, hypothesiis formation and refutation, does help you program
>a computer.
Computers were designed using science so it's not surprising you need
science to program them. Try using science to make sense of something
created using religion or philosophy. Say, the Book of Tao? :-)
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From: "Wong Ching Kuen Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: alter table in mysql
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:45:21 +0800
i upgrade mysql in my redhat box from 3.22 to 3.23. how can i change the
table format from the old one to myisam?! in some doc, they states that it
can
be achieved by the alter command, but how?! thanx.
regards,
fred
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:59:42 -0600
From: "Arthur H. Gold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stack size for automatic variables in RedHat Linux
Alan Siggia wrote:
>
> The following program gets a Memory Fault (Core Dumped) when it is
> run under Redhat 6.2 (and probably other versions too). I assume
> that the local variable is simply too large to fit on the stack.
>
> Does anyone know how the maximum stack size is controlled under Linux?
>
> int main( int argc, char *argv[] )
> {
> char large[4][1024][2048] ;
> large[0][0][0] = 0 ;
> }
>
> Thanks
> -alan
>
> --
> Alan Siggia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) SIGMET Incorporated
> Tel: (978) 692-9293 x16 2 Park Drive, Unit #1
> FAX: (978) 692-9575 Westford, Massachusetts 01886
man ulimit
--ag
--
Artie Gold, Austin, TX (finger the cs.utexas.edu account
for more info)
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Verbing weirds language.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 06:46:29 +0100
In comp.os.linux.misc Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 04:36:06 GMT, "Peter T. Breuer"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Agreed. It is after all, very difficult to program a computer using
>>religious beliefs as a basis for your programming. I tend to view that
>>as evidence that scientific belief is qualitatively different, since
>>believing in scientific principles like observation, no-interpretation,
>>experiment, hypothesiis formation and refutation, does help you program
>>a computer.
> Computers were designed using science so it's not surprising you need
> science to program them. Try using science to make sense of something
I don't really think you disagree. Your point is also that the domains in
which these thinkings take place are different. (not that I agree that
your argument has any bearing :-)
> created using religion or philosophy. Say, the Book of Tao? :-)
... or that talking AI program that imitates a psychologist by taking
the words out of whatever sentences you said last, remodelling and
repeating them back to you in the form of a question?
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Stack size for automatic variables in RedHat Linux
Date: 15 Feb 2001 01:26:54 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Arthur H. Gold wrote:
> man ulimit
Probably should be:
$ man [your favorite shell]
... and search for "ulimit" or "limit"
The limits themselves, though, are set by root and can be changed in some
system-wide configuration file. (This might be /etc/security/limits.conf:
things are more complicated in the PAMified world than they used to be ...)
--
Paul Kimoto
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From: "Dale Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Real Audio
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 06:39:44 GMT
Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone could tell me if there is a port to linux for real
audio and where to find it ?
thanks in advance
Dale
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harsh Strider)
Subject: Booting Linux on Windows Computer.
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 06:45:46 GMT
Hello,
Until yesterday my computer was a dual boot Windows only machine. I
decided to install Mandrake Linux on it so that I could also use it
for Linux. This is the setup I have.
I have three physical hard drives in my computer. The C: drive has
Windows 2000 Pro installed on it. The D: dirve has Windows 98 on it.
The third drive is where I did install Mandrake Linux 7.2. In the
installation manual it it said that Mandrake would wipe out my Windows
Master boot record and install a boot loader called GRUB in its place.
The installation of Linux went fine and then the computer rebooted,
however I never get to boot into any OS. This is the line that I get:
Low Level BASH line editor Initiated:
and then I get this prompt
grub>
I can boot into windows, if I boot off a floppy disk and then run this
command from DOS.
fdisk /mbr
When I restart the computer it gives me the option to boot into
Windows 98 or Windows 2000 pro, the way it always had.
I also installed Mandrake Linux on a clean machine (Linux would be the
only OS). And that worked fine. I do want to install it on my Windows
machine because it is so much faster (Pentium 3 933 w/ 256mb RAM, w/ a
64mb video card vs. a Dual Pentium Pro 180 w/ 96mb RAM, w/ a 4mb
video card).
I have been using Linux for about three years now, however this is the
first tmie I have tried to install it on a computer that already has
other OS's on it. I have only ever used Linux on Linux only computers.
Thanks for any help,
Harsh Strider
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From: Bingus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Real Audio
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 06:57:01 GMT
Dale Stewart wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just wondering if anyone could tell me if there is a port to linux for
> real audio and where to find it ?
Go to www.real.com and download the Linux version
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From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:47:21 -0700
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 06:46:29 +0100, "Peter T. Breuer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 04:36:06 GMT, "Peter T. Breuer"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>>Agreed. It is after all, very difficult to program a computer using
>>>religious beliefs as a basis for your programming. I tend to view that
>>>as evidence that scientific belief is qualitatively different, since
>>>believing in scientific principles like observation, no-interpretation,
>>>experiment, hypothesiis formation and refutation, does help you program
>>>a computer.
>
>> Computers were designed using science so it's not surprising you need
>> science to program them. Try using science to make sense of something
>
>I don't really think you disagree. Your point is also that the domains in
>which these thinkings take place are different. (not that I agree that
>your argument has any bearing :-)
Yep. Just a matter of using the right programming language for the
job. <g>
>
>> created using religion or philosophy. Say, the Book of Tao? :-)
>
> ... or that talking AI program that imitates a psychologist by taking
>the words out of whatever sentences you said last, remodelling and
>repeating them back to you in the form of a question?
>
>Peter
A long long time ago I found a "tech support" website that claimed
there were real people online waiting to help you with your technical
problems totally for free. It sounded too good to be true so I knew
something was up. It still took about about five minutes of never
quite getting anywhere to figure out I was talking a modified version
of Eliza rather than a real human.
Unfortunately the site disappeared one day. Too bad, I used to send
all my friends there. Heh heh!
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From: Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with ipmasqadm
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:36:42 -0800
I have my main machine connected to the net running an ipchains
firewall. I want to forward any traffic connecting to that machine by a
certain domain name to an internal machine. So if they're connecting to
the machine with foo.dyndns.org they will be fowarded to the internal
machine. If they connect with bar.dyndns.org they will stay at the main
machine. Can I do this with ipmasqadm? Somthing like:
ipmasqadm portfw -f
ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L foo.dyndns.org -R 192.168.0.2
ipmasqadm portfw -a -P udp -L foo.dyndns.org -R 192.168.0.2
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From: Gerry Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LFS and lilo
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 02:45:54 -0500
Hello,
I'm trying to build linux from scratch for my old 486 using the lfs howto.
I removed its harddisk and put it in my pentium as a slave.
I can boot into lfs when I boot from my master harddisk.
But now I want to install lilo on the boot of my lfs disk, so I can put it
back as a master in my 486.
I tried to run lilo with boot=/dev/hdb and root=/dev/hdb1.
I also tried root=/dev/hda1.
I ran lilo in my original configuration like this:
/sbin/lilo -v -C lilo.conf -r /mnt/lfs
Anyway, lilo gives me in both cases LI when I boot from my lfs disk.
Can anyone help me with this problem?
Thanks,
Gerry Jacobs
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From: "JJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: .htaccess
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:37:46 +0100
Hi,
If a have password protected site with htaccess, can I get the user id in
pages which are protected (I am using JSP) for logging?
BR
Joacim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:21:14 GMT
"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In comp.os.linux.misc Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 04:36:06 GMT, "Peter T. Breuer"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Agreed. It is after all, very difficult to program a computer
>>> using religious beliefs as a basis for your programming. I tend to
>>> view that as evidence that scientific belief is qualitatively
>>> different, since believing in scientific principles like
>>> observation, no-interpretation, experiment, hypothesiis formation
>>> and refutation, does help you program a computer.
>> Computers were designed using science so it's not surprising you
>> need science to program them. Try using science to make sense of
>> something
> I don't really think you disagree. Your point is also that the
> domains in which these thinkings take place are different. (not that
> I agree that your argument has any bearing :-)
The notion that there's _vast_ relevance to this is quite silly.
There are scientists who are considered credible who are quite
anti-religious, just as there are also credible scientists who hold
quite strong religious beliefs.
Within the computing community, Richard Stallman would be a good
example of one who has considerable distain for organized religion and
the notion of "deity."
In contrast, Donald Knuth, who holds the Chair of the Art of Computer
Programming, and who is named as one of the long-time patrons of the
Free Software Foundation, holds quite strong religious beliefs.
Indeed, they are held to sufficient degree that he wrote a book
entitled "3:16," which presents all the instances of "chapter 3 verse
16" in the Bible. (That oversimplifies slightly; he set up a
more-or-less complex heuristic to deal with the situation where a
particular book does not have a verse sixteen in chapter 3.) That
work was clearly taken reasonably seriously as a work; Knuth invited a
wide variety of typographers to set the various verses each in a
different type, and there were prominent participants.
At any rate, the point here is that in order to claim that all people
with religious belief must be "anti-scientific," you have to reject a
significant body of scientists responsible for some _good_ science.
--
(concatenate 'string "aa454" "@freenet.carleton.ca")
http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/linux.html
Rules of the Evil Overlord #190. "If my mad scientist/wizard tells me
he has almost perfected my Superweapon but it still needs more
testing, I will wait for him to complete the tests. No one ever
conquered the world using a beta version."
<http://www.eviloverlord.com/>
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From: Jem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Keyboard mapping and sterling symbol...
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:36:04 -0000
Argh! Major hair loss time ;-)
I am trying desperately hard to link up a UK keyboard to my Embedix
based system. Embedix defaults to a US keyboard (not surprising) and
doesn't seem to provide any tools (e.g. loadkeys) for configuring as a
UK keyboard.
Me being a smart-arse took the consoleutils rpm from RedHat 6.2,
stripped out the documentation and merged the rest into my Embedix
system and then typed "loadkeys uk"... Yippeee! It all seems to work...
all of it that is, except the "�" (uk sterling symbol) key. It produces
nothing. Not a thing.
Why? How do I fix it? what's the matter? I've copied all the files that
I use on my full RedHat 6.2 system, double checked loads of settings and
yet nothing, no quid symbol.
Anyone any hints?
Jeremy
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: File system/Superblock problems
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:46:00 +0100
> >
> > try one of the following superblock locations:
> > 32768
> 32768 worked
>
Stil run Findpart as svend-olaf mentioned, as there must be a reason why
this
has happened.
(Or post `fdisk -l /dev/hd[a-z]` here)
Eric
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 03:36:18 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: need a app to erase a cdrw
Any apps available to erase CDRW discs? I got xcdroast and cdrdao but
neither let me erase a disc....anything else I can try?
thanks
brandon
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 05:20:25 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: stupid ./configure script
Anyone want to tell me why the hell ./configure says a 'yes' to the
first few lines of the following output, but a 'no' to the last line?
If it can find the KDE libs and headers, why the hell does it say it
can't find the libs 5 seconds later? It just said it could.
checking for KDE... libraries /opt/kde/lib, headers /opt/kde/include
checking for extra includes... no
checking for extra libs... no
checking for kde headers installed... yes
checking for kde libraries installed... configure: error: your system
fails at linking a small KDE application!
Check, if your compiler is installed correctly and if you have used the
same compiler to compile Qt and kdelibs as you did use now
brandon
gotta love OSS
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From: Shai Kedem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ksh script problem: pwd works differently for ksh then linux binary file
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:30:03 -0000
Harlan Grove wrote:
>
>
>
> Shai Kedem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> ...
> >I have a pdksh installed on Linux RedHat 6.2.
> >From an interactive shell, when I type pwd in a directory which is a
link,
> >I get the directory name (not hte one linked to), as I expect.
> >When /bin/pwd is run, I get the linked directory name !
> >from a ksh script, it seems it will always run /bin/pwd for pwd rather
> >then the ksh implementation.
> >Any one knows how to override this problems in ksh scripts to it will
run
> >the pwd of the ksh command ?
>
> Why bother with running pwd either as an internal command or an external
> binary? If you're using ksh as your interactive shell _and_ as the shell
> running your script, wouldn't the PWD environment variable suffice?
x=`pwd`
> is every bit as redundant as uuoc.
>
> I believe pwd is an alias rather than a built-in command like cd, which
> would explain why it works in interactive shells but not in scripts
(though
> I believe it's possible for the script to trick the shell into thinking
it's
> interactive).
>
>
I tested the $PWD but it behaves the same - it will resolve the symbolic
link when run from ksh script !
any idea how to force a command to be interpeted as alias rather then
executable name in ksh script ?
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From: Shai Kedem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ksh pwd - still have problems
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:30:04 -0000
I'm still having problems with pwd in ksh scripts.
both pwd command and $PWD system variable returns different results when
run from ksh interactive terminal and ksh script.
The run in ksh script activate always /bin/pwd, which resolves symbolic
link names, while the alias pwd in ksh terminal returns the symbolic
directory name, which is the result I want.
This is different then Unix, which behaves like the last case on all Unix
versions and on all platfroms that run Unix !
Anyone has an idea how to force Linux to use its alias pwd rather
then /bin/pwd when run from a ksh script ?
thanks,
Shai
Harlan Grove wrote:
>
>
>
> Shai Kedem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> ...
> >I have a pdksh installed on Linux RedHat 6.2.
> >From an interactive shell, when I type pwd in a directory which is a
link,
> >I get the directory name (not hte one linked to), as I expect.
> >When /bin/pwd is run, I get the linked directory name !
> >from a ksh script, it seems it will always run /bin/pwd for pwd rather
> >then the ksh implementation.
> >Any one knows how to override this problems in ksh scripts to it will
run
> >the pwd of the ksh command ?
>
> Why bother with running pwd either as an internal command or an external
> binary? If you're using ksh as your interactive shell _and_ as the shell
> running your script, wouldn't the PWD environment variable suffice?
x=`pwd`
> is every bit as redundant as uuoc.
>
> I believe pwd is an alias rather than a built-in command like cd, which
> would explain why it works in interactive shells but not in scripts
(though
> I believe it's possible for the script to trick the shell into thinking
it's
> interactive).
>
>
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From: Eggert Ehmke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: stupid ./configure script
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:40:26 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 05:20:25 -0500, Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>checking for KDE... libraries /opt/kde/lib, headers /opt/kde/include
>checking for extra includes... no
>checking for extra libs... no
>checking for kde headers installed... yes
>checking for kde libraries installed... configure: error: your system
>fails at linking a small KDE application!
>Check, if your compiler is installed correctly and if you have used the
>same compiler to compile Qt and kdelibs as you did use now
This can happen if you try to compile a kde2 application in a kde1
installation or vice versa. There is a config.log that tells the exact
reason why it dropped out. Make sure your KDEDIR and LD_LIBRARY_PATH
variables are setup correctly.
--
Eggert Ehmke
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 05:12:40 GMT
Peter T. Breuer writes:
> Well, there are issues of sanity involved here. Doubting the evidence of
> your own senses leaves you in a difficult position.
Not quite what I took him to mean, but I _do_ doubt the evidence of my own
senses in that I doubt single observations and try to rely on a
preponderance of evidence. Experience has taught me that my senses are
easily fooled and my memory unreliable. It has also taught me that this
is true of other people, though most deny it.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Esa Tikka)
Subject: Re: need a app to erase a cdrw
Date: 15 Feb 2001 10:25:51 GMT
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 03:36:18 -0500, Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Any apps available to erase CDRW discs? I got xcdroast and cdrdao but
>neither let me erase a disc....anything else I can try?
Try cdrecord
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From: Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kde without windows borders
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:17:03 +0100
Nils O. Sel�sdal wrote:
> "Dirk Groeneveld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> I gambled a bit with kde(2) themes and widget sets and now find myself
>> without windows borders. How did that happen?
>> Windows just end, there's no place I could "grab" to resize the window,
>> and I'm stuck.
> for a start: go to a console and type: kwin
Doesn't work, he tells me that a kwin is already running.
Dirk
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