Linux-Misc Digest #115, Volume #21 Wed, 21 Jul 99 21:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: Config for G200 under XFree86 ("Michael's News")
Subject: Why all the symbolic links in linux (Norman Levin)
Need info on different distributions (Farin Crowe)
Re: Help - Need to shift memeory over to /var ASAP. (Norman Levin)
Re: open with default app - how to set? (John C. Peterson)
Re: Finally Done it! (Leonard Evens)
Re: Switch from Windows to Linux? (Philip Brown)
Re: Staroffice destroys!!! (Eric Y. Chang)
freshmeat.net (Bob Batson)
Re: Filesystem panic after forgetting to umount vfat partition (Jon Bloom)
Re: My Linux box was hacked! (Clifford Smith)
Re: partition magic (Rod Smith)
Re: Strange reboot... (Leonard Evens)
Re: uncompressing a "tar.gz." (Leonard Evens)
Re: Screen fonts? ("Donald E. Stidwell")
Re: gnome task bar ("pjd")
Give back on ppp connect/Netscape problem (MotorHead)
Re: High load average, low cpu usage (leoxx)
Re: reproducible hang ("Dope Hat")
Re: Shortcomings of Linux? ("Chad Mulligan")
Re: Linux mail server w/ embedded Excel docs support (Mark Brown)
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From: "Michael's News" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Config for G200 under XFree86
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:03:28 -0400
Check out this message from a ways back. It solved my problem:
====
=====Original Message=====
From: Chip Piller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: redhat.x.general
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: Matrox Millennium G200
>
>Lars Behrmann wrote:
>>
>> I am a total beginner and I look for help.
>>
>> I installed Linux Red Hat 5.2 and tryed to conifgure the Graphiccard.
>Matrox
>> Millennium G200 is not listed in the Xconfiguration.
>> Anyway, I looked at XFree86 and Matrox web site. I found a file wich
>should
>> work for Millennium G200. I finally got the download in my Windows
>> Partition.
>> Under Linux (after rebooting) the name is somehow 4013_x~1
>> When I downloaded under Win98 it said XXXX.gz
>> What does the ..gz stant for?
>> gzip?
>> and if I unzip. the name is tgz or tar.
>> how do I install it or where do I have to move it to?
>> The Xconfiguration looks for X86_SVGA.
>>
>> Please help me.
>>
>> Lars
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>Type 'man gzip', 'man tar', or find some unix documentation to learn about
>how to compress and expand files. For a beginner in your situation it is
>probably easier to use RedHat packages to upgrade your X server to support
>your G200 card.
>I am running RH 5.2 with the Matrox Millennium G200 AGP video card. What
>you want to do is update your XFree86 server to version 3.3.3.1, I
>recommend that you download and install the rpm files from the redhat site
>(ftp://updates.redhat.com/5.2/i386/ or one of the many mirror sites). This
>assumes you are using an intel/compatible PC, if not go to the appropriate
>architechture listing. There are a lot of updated files, you probably want
>to get at least the following:
>XFree86-3.3.3.1-1.i386.rpm
>XFree86-SVGA-3.3.3.1-1.i386.rpm
>XF86Setup-3.3.3.1-1.i386.rpm
>XFree86-libs-3.3.3.1-1.i386.rpm
>
>Once you have these files are on your Linux machine it is easy to upgrade.
>From the command line as root enter 'rpm -Uvh XFree86-3.3.3.1-1.i386.rpm'
>to upgrade the server. Use this command for each file you want to upgrade,
>just substitute in the desired rpm file name. For more info on using rpm
>enter 'man rpm' or find some online documentation (some good linux
>documentation is at http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/ ). If you get an error
>message when running the rpm command you can force the command by typing
>'rpm -Uvh --force --nodeps filename.rpm'.
>
>Next you need to configure your XF86Config file. See if you can start X
>windows and try the XF86Setup program, it's a graphical setup program.
>Restart X windows and you should be good to go.
>
>
>------------------ Posted via SearchLinux ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
>
Greg Roberts wrote in message <7mhh6f$c75$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi all. I'd like to know how people have setup their Matrox G200 (8MB)
>cards under XFree86, so it runs at 32bpp? The reason is that I have a
>staff member here who requires 32bpp for specific applications to run,
>but the best we can get out of it is 24bpp. I've read the README.MGA
>file, and I've setup /etc/X11/XF86Config with these options for the
>device section:
>
>Section "Device"
> Identifier "My Video Card"
> VideoRam 8192
> Option "sw_cursor"
>EndSection
>
>I've added the "sw_cursor" option due to the owner complaining about
>problems with the mouse cursor.
>
>Here's the monitor setup:
>
>Section "Monitor"
> Identifier "My Monitor"
> VendorName "Philips"
> ModelName "Brilliance 107MP"
> HorizSync 30-95
> VertRefresh 50-160
> Modeline "1024x768" 115.50 1024 1056 1248 1440 768 771 781 802
>-hsync -vsync
> Modeline "800x600" 69.65 800 864 928 1088 600 604 610 640 -hsync
>-vsync
>EndSection
>
>And here's the 32bpp setup:
>
>SubSection "Display"
> Depth 32
> Modes "1024x768" "800x600"
> Virtual 1024 768
> ViewPort 0 0
>EndSubSection
>
>The machine is running RH5.2, with XFree86-3.3.3.1-1.1
>
>Any help/advice will be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 10:36:17 -0500
From: Norman Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,
Subject: Subject: Why all the symbolic links in linux
I'm browsing thru the /usr/bin directory and finding a million
symbolic links to file IN THE SAME DIRECTORY! Why are we wasting an inode?
Why aren't these regular links? It is not like they are links to other
directory's
that might eventually become separate filesystems. This are links in the same
directory!
--
Norman Levin
vm/dynAmIX inc.
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From: Farin Crowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need info on different distributions
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 18:40:05 -0600
I am getting a new 13Gb hard drive and am going to use it strictly for
installing a linux server. I realize 13 G is a lot for 1 linux install but I
am sure I can find a use for that much space. Also locally we have 3 available
distributions of linux. Redahat 6.0, Mandrake 6.0, and Suse 6.1.
I have used redhat (both 5.2 and 6.0). Is there a major difference between
these 3 distributions? And if so would it be worth my time to install all 3?
If there is major points for each I don't mind spending the money to get them
all but I prefer not too have to try to download all 3 just to compare them and
find out they are all the same.
Any help here would be appreciated.
Farin Crowe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 10:33:41 -0500
From: Norman Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Help - Need to shift memeory over to /var ASAP.
You could create a /spool directory in the root filesystem (I'm guessing that
you over compensated for space somewhere and it might be in root.)
Then, use pax to transfer all the data from /var/spool to /spool
Something like:
pax -rw /var/spool /spool
Next - blow away everything under /var/spool since it is in spool
Create a symbolic link - double check this:
ln -s /var/spool /spool
and this might hold you for a while.
--
Norman Levin
vm/dynAmIX inc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John C. Peterson)
Subject: Re: open with default app - how to set?
Date: 21 Jul 1999 23:20:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Arun Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said, and
I quote:
>How do u set a default application to open files of a certain type. I
>want to set x11amp as my default app for MP3's.
>
Unless this question was meant for The Psychic Hot Line, you will need
to provide much more specific information before anyone can even
pretend to help you. In particular, which Linux distribution and X11
Window Manager are you using? There are literally dozens of choices,
and the answer depends on which one you have / use.
Regards, John
--
___|___ | John C. Peterson, KD6EKQ | Try Linux for Intel x86, because
-(*)- | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | a PC is a terrible thing to waste!
o/ \o | San Diego, CA U.S.A | See http://www.linux.org/ for info
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Finally Done it!
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:54:34 -0500
K Kal wrote:
>
> OK guys,
> Everyone congradulate me, I've finally made switch from the
> microsoft Hell hole they call 98/NT to Linux.
>
> I've been meaning to make the switch for ever so long, but never had
> the guts to do so. Thankfully, the switch has been made.
>
> I've installed RedHat 6.0 (linux 2.2.5-15smp). I'm just getting
> started on Linux and X-Windows (KDE/GNOME, etc.) and I hope it will go
> more smoothly than I think.
>
> I'm looking for a good replacement for Microsoft Office but to run on
> linux. Can anyone suggest anything?
>
> Also, I tried installing Real Player 5.0, but was unsuccessful when I
> attempted to run it. I keep getting an errno1, and sometimes a
> Segmentation fault! Does anyone know how to get around this??
>
> Until next time,
> keep on smiling
> K.Kal
>
> ***Good bye Microsoft, and Hello Linux***
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Others have suggested Star Office and Word Perfect. You
might also consider Applixware. It is not free, but it
doesn't cost too much and I have found it useful. It is
not quite consistent with MS Office because Word by default
writes files out in a special format which is not readable
by anything including earlier forms of Word. But if you
make sure the Word document is saved in a reasonable format,
it can be read by Applix. There is a demo version of Applix
which comes with the most recent official RedHat 6.0
distribution. I find the spreadsheet easier to use in
many ways than the latest version of Excel, which is too
gimicky for my taste.
The problem you have with Real Player is well known, and
will be fixed by Real Audio sooner or later. Let's hope it
is sooner. Meanwhile, there is a apparently a version of
the G2 Realplayer on Read Audio's web site in an obscure
location which does work, possibly with some glitches.
This has been thoroughly discussed in this newsgroup,
so you can probably find it by using dejanews.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Switch from Windows to Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 21 Jul 1999 23:34:32 GMT
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:06:50 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I installed a linux partiton on my system. I keep windows as a backup, should
>something happen to my linux system, so I can get on the internet and download
>fixes.
that makes no sense. WHy don't you just keep a smaller linux partition for
emergencies?
--
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[ Do NOT email-CC me on posts. Pick one or the other.]
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The word of the day is mispergitude
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Y. Chang)
Subject: Re: Staroffice destroys!!!
Date: 22 Jul 1999 00:01:15 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi. This is a common problem. When I first reported it, I was
accused of trolling. It does happen to some installations, but it
is unclear what is wrong. It seems that the libraries that it requires
overwrite system libraries that are required by init or some boot
related program. Actually, reinstall is not necessary, just rebuild
libraries from a rescue floppy. As for making it work, do not force
the installation of the libraries. Install them in some other directory,
and reset the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point to them in a wrapper shell
script. Another way to solve the problem is to buy another machine,
and install one of those distributions on it that includes Star Office.
This is really a silly wasteful problem, and it seems to plague
newbies primarily.
FTO ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I started to install StarOffice 5.1 and the install programme told me to
: force the installation of libraries, (I can't remember which ones) Anyways
: it literally killed my system. I was running Redhat 6.0 kernel 2.2.5-15.
: What should I do after I have installed everything again and try to install
: the office again?
: Thanks
: Newbie FTO
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Batson)
Subject: freshmeat.net
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:07:42 GMT
Does anyone know what seems to the matter with http://freshmeat.net ?
Their web server has been unresponsive for over 24 hours now, or else
they're awfully busy. I've tried `pinging' them but get no response.
Bob Batson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jon Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Filesystem panic after forgetting to umount vfat partition
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:50:02 -0400
I see that others have mentioned the slocate cron job and how to keep it
from indexing your FAT partition. I just want to add that I run RH 6.0
with a constantly mounted vfat partition. Until I got annoyed by the
uninteresting DOS files locate returned, I was letting the cron job
index that partition and never had a problem. So it seems likely that
your vfat partition is corrupt. If I were you, I'd boot into Windows and
run Scandisk on that drive pronto.
Jon
--
Jon Bloom, KE3Z
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Electronic Publications Manager (Software, CD-ROMs and Web site)
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From: Clifford Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.security.unix,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: My Linux box was hacked!
Date: 21 Jul 1999 23:37:46 GMT
try adding in.comsatd:127. in your hosts.allow (it may be slightly
different..call it whatever inetd calls it)
hope this helps
--Clifford Smith
In comp.security.unix Bill Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I altered my inetd.conf, hosts.allow and hosts.deny.
: I commented out many services in inetd.conf, but I left comsat uncommented
: because I run biff (which notifies me when I have new email), and
: supposedly comsat is needed to run that. (My email I get using fetchmail
: from another machine.)
: After the file changes biff no longer works. I am wondering why, and how
: to fix.
: Thanks very much for any help.
: Bill Simpson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: partition magic
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:34:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (RaMzEyMe) writes:
[re: Partition Magic]
>>I don't think a downloadable version exists
I don't know if you can buy an ORIGINAL version this way, but as of a few
months ago, you could get an UPGRADE as a download. It was one of these
secure order form things that links straight into a secure download site.
It worked pretty well for me (at the time, I had fast net access at work,
and Zip drives at work and at home, so I just transferred it by Zip drive,
then burned myself a CD).
> Do you know of any partition magic freeware/shareware clones that I could
> download?
There's the Ranish Partition Manager,
http://www.users.intercom.com/~ranish/part/. I've never used it, myself.
>From the description, it's not as full-featured as PM, but it's got more
than FIPS does.
--
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith
NOTE: Remove the "uce" word from my address to mail me
Author of _Special Edition Using WordPerfect for Linux_, from Que
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Strange reboot...
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:26:59 -0500
Antonio Santos wrote:
>
> Dear all
>
> I was outside my faculty during a few days to install a linux box
> in another department (with a NT network, so it took me a few days...)
> While I was logged in as a user I spotted a shutdown at 9:00PM on Monday.
> All the users in this box were gone for holidays, and the last login
> was at 8:00PM from a friend who was with me at that moment. We run
> a firewall at the faculty, but I've set up all the possible (?) security
> configurations I know (no unecessary daemons, tcp wrappers, etc). This
> linux box is connected to an UPS, and the shutdown was smooth (no
> devs uncleanly unmounted). I've looked up the logs but apparently nothing
> strange happened. The strange thing is, if it was a power failure, all
> the winboxes that are in my subnetwork should have the passwd dialog
> in (after rebooting). Is it possible for the kernel to reboot
> spontaneously? The box was running for several months and I've noticed that
> the pids were getting higher and higher...
>
> Should I suspect from an attack (kind of DOS) or an installed rootshell?
> (and no, I didn't install tripwire :-( )
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Antonio Santos
>
> ------------------ Posted via SearchLinux ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
One possibility is that the computer shut down because the
power supply was overheating. I would expect there to be
some information in the UPS logs---assuming you have software
to monitor the UPS on the computer. But it is at least
worth considering. See if the fan moves freely. When the
fan binds, the power supply overheats and shuts itself off.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: uncompressing a "tar.gz."
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:33:59 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In article <7n54jp$4h7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > How do you uncompress or unzip a file that is downloaded with an
> > extension of "tar.gz."? Thanks for the help
> >
> > Judy
> >
>
> tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Or if you want to do it the hard way
gunzip filename.tar.gz
tar -xvf filename.tar
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: "Donald E. Stidwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Screen fonts?
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 23:59:20 GMT
Steffan O'Sullivan wrote:
> Gergo Barany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>Screen fonts in linux staroffice are terrible. Is there a way to
> >>improve them?
> >
> >There's an XFree86 Font Deuglification HOWTO somewhere, I think the
> >maintainer was working on adding a section about StarOffice.
>
> Ah, thanks! "deuglification" is the key word enabling me to find this
> web page - not a word I would have thought of on my own, I confess. I
> found the page, and the introduction begins:
>
> One of the most annoying sets of problems I have had to deal with is
> the abysmal default fonts and font settings of X (I'm talking
> specifically about XFree86, other versions of X may be better.) Many
> programs use fixed width default fonts when a variable width font
> would be more appropriate. Other programs use fonts that are
> ridiculously tiny and unreadable. The fonts that are bundled with
> XFree86 are barely adequate for the job.
>
> This is exactly how I feel - I'll read through this very carefully,
> thanks for the tip!
>
> I don't yet know if the site will be useful, but if anyone else wants
> to try, the URL is:
>
> http://www.frii.com/~meldroc/Font-Deuglification.html
>
> --
> -Steffan O'Sullivan |
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | "Seek Grailo, Even Better Than the True Grail"
> Chapel Hill, NC |
> www.io.com/~sos | -James Thurber sums up the 20th Century
This site gave me what I needed to make Netscape actually useable. The big
tip for me was rearranging the font order in xf86config and putting the 100
DPI fonts before the 75 DPI fonts. True Type fonts next!
Don
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From: "pjd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gnome task bar
Date: 22 Jul 1999 00:50:50 GMT
>
>three steps for just raising a window seems too much !
Yep. Thats a pain.
Try clicking both your mouse buttons (simultaneously) on the taskbar
windows. This works like a toggle. (Atleast for me.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MotorHead)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.windows.x.kde,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Give back on ppp connect/Netscape problem
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:57:05 GMT
I have fought this problem for a couple of days now. It was
exascerbated by the fact I had also changed ISP's, but this turned out
to be the clue I was looking for. What leads one astray is that the
modem can connect, but you still may not be logged into you ISP and
ppp initiated. My other clue was my /var/ppp/messages stated that my
"login script failed". What I did then was start a minicom session and
watch what my ISP was asking for during the login process, and then
used this information to properly change my login script. What had me
fouled up was that my previous ISP used "login:" to ask for the
username, while my new one used "username:". The default "expect"
for Gnome network configuration is "ogin:", a substring for "login:"
My new ISP, as stated used "username:", so the correct
substring for the "expect" entry would be "sername:" or something
shorter. Just "ame:" would work. Don't forget the colon and quotes are
not necessary. Once this was changed, the modem connected, the login
took place, and ppp was started by the ISP. Netscape came up and
connected to it's home page. To change this you must edit the ppp0
interface. Edit the first "expect" entry ( under the communication tab
for Gnome network configurator) and change the substring to match what
your ISP asks for. With Kppd, the is a separate login script tab when
you go into setup/account setup/edit. This worked for me and I hope
some others.
Isn't this fun!
On Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:05:36 -0400, "Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\""
<*****@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>I'm able to dial out and connect to my ISP with kppp, but, when I start
>Netscape, or any other program that uses the internet, I get a can't connect
>error message. It seems that I may not have a permission or path set
>properly. I have read books and Howto's and still can't resolve this. I'm
>sure it's something simple that I'm overlooking. Thanks.
>
>
> Ed
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (leoxx)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: High load average, low cpu usage
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:07:45 GMT
>I have a PII 450 MHz w/512 MB ram and a clean RedHat 6.0 w/updates .
>When I take a look at cpu usage i kpm/qps most of the cpu is idle
>(~85%), but load average reports around 2. Isn't load average a function
>of cpu usage (only, mostly)? Can it be that some process is running, but
>not showing in ps/top/kpm? I feel that the system response has been
>reduced quite a bit after upgrading to RedHat 6.0.
You can use the "top" command to find out which applications
are probably causing this.
--
JR
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From: "Dope Hat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: reproducible hang
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:10:44 -0500
on a related note, I noticed a similar thing. If you go to your
/windows/Tremporary Internt Files/ directory , there are files and
directories there that you cannot see in windows. I've never had any
problems deleting any thing in a vfat partition though. I use "rm -f -r
/(directory)" and that has never given me any problems.
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From: "Chad Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shortcomings of Linux?
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:07:32 -0700
Chris Lee wrote in message <7n5mft$f2k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In article <7n46iq$cjj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>>
>>In comp.sys.amiga.misc Chris Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> And I get my information from the people who *ACTUALLY CONNECT TO ISPs*
>in
>>> the *REAL WORLD*
>>
>>Apparently from few people only though, if you have never talked
>>to the thousands of users who need to use MS-CHAP, yes, in the
>>real world, obviously.
>>
>>Frankly, this is getting ridiculuos. Obviously you don't KNOW
>>that MS-CHAP is a problem. Fine, so you have been lucky enough
>>to never run across it. That does not mean that the problem
>>does not exist. It DOES exist, as thousands of users can testify.
>>Denying a problem just because you have been lucky enough to
>>never encounter it is just a sign of arrogance.
>
>It isn't me dude. A hell of a lot of people in the newsgroups I mentioned
>are using pppd on linux and other OS's to connect to NT 4.0 servers using
>PAP and not MS-CHAP. This blows your stupid comment that everybody is using
>MS-CHAP out of the water.
>
Have to agree with that, MS-CHAP is used primarily between Windows clients and NT RAS.
PAP is everywhere else, even my NT box at home.
>
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From: Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux mail server w/ embedded Excel docs support
Date: 22 Jul 1999 01:38:04 +0100
Jeremy Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> My boss has tasked me to finding a Linux mail that supports embedded
> Excel docs, or does an animal exist. I am new to Linux (but learned
> faster than I thought possible) and I will be implementing this beast.
> Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
What is the mail server supposed to do with the Excel docs? Any mail
server should pass them through quite happily, but I suspect that's
not what's being asked for.
If you mean mail client, I'd suggest trying StarOffice or ApplixWare
although I don't know if either actually do this.
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