Linux-Misc Digest #138, Volume #20 Mon, 10 May 99 11:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: modem as faxanswering-machine ? (Mark Tranchant)
Re: Epson Stylus Color II printer and Samba 2.0.3 and NT Workstation 4.0 (SP4) == NO
GO :~< ("Peter Caffin")
Software for drawing flowcharts? (Raymond)
"man" problem (suse 5.3) (Carsten Gaebler)
Re: No module advansys found for kernel 2.2.7 (Eous)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Richard
Kulisz)
Sendmail aliases question. (Nico Zigouras)
Sendmail aliases question. (Nico Zigouras)
Aliases question in sendmail. (Nico Zigouras)
Re: Sendmail aliases question. (Brett Neely)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Richard
Kulisz)
Re: Display X on TV? ("Oliver D. Bedford")
Re: CTRL-S (Lew Pitcher)
Spawning processes via inittab ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: CTRL-S (Alan Gauld)
Re: Cron problems (Zoran Cutura)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Mike Coffin)
{help) question for gnome (Duke Hwang)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Richard
Kulisz)
Re: Software for drawing flowcharts? (Robert Wuest)
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: modem as faxanswering-machine ?
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 08:32:48 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Look for mgetty/sendfax and vgetty.
Mark.
peter wrote:
>
> anyone knows if there is some programm that makes my modem to a
> voice/fax-answeringmachine ?
>
> peter
>
> -----------------
> pilsl@
> ANTISPAM
> goldfisch.atat.at
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From: "Peter Caffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Epson Stylus Color II printer and Samba 2.0.3 and NT Workstation 4.0
(SP4) == NO GO :~<
Date: 10 May 1999 08:03:15 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Bleh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am trying to share my Epson Stylus Color II printer via Samba 2.0.3 on my
> Redhat 6.0 machine using the Uniprint driver. I also tried the ESC/P2
> Anyone have a solution?
I've posted my /etc/printcap for this printer only just recently, so I
won't repost it. Go to http://www.dejanews.com/ and search for `epson
stylus color printcap`. My /etc/printcap uses LPRng and Magicfilter, BTW.
On your NT Box, just install the normal drivers which were distributed for
your printer. If the magicfilter script doesn't recognise the Postscript,
it pumps it to the printer raw.
There are rumours that the Postscript generated by Windows 95/98/NT
are incompatible with Linux postscript systems. Using the Windows driver
is therefore the prefered option in this case to avoid the issue
entirely ;).
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From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Software for drawing flowcharts?
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 03:41:15 -0700
Hello,
What software is available in Linux to draw flowcharts? Particular,
I want tools to do Unified Modeling ( I just want the diagram, no need
for forward/reverse engineering, but if there exists one, I will also be
interested in ).
Thanks in advance for your advices!
Yours,
Raymond Li
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From: Carsten Gaebler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "man" problem (suse 5.3)
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:38:31 +0200
Hi there!
There seems to be a problem with my SuSE 5.3's man: if I execute man as
a normal user, it says: "man: can't set effective uid: Operation not
permitted". mandb says: "the suid man user "man" does not exist".
Can I simply create a user "man" to fix this? If yes, what are the user
and group id? If no, what else?
Regards,
Carsten.
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From: Eous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No module advansys found for kernel 2.2.7
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:28:38 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I installed Red Hat 5.2 with a Advansys SCSI controlled with no problems
> found the controller and installed the correct driver. When I tried to
> upgrade the kernel to 2.2.7 and run mkinitrd it tells me that it cannot
> find the advansys module. I know I selected to install the advansys scsi
> driver. What do I need to do to get the kernel to install the correct
> drivers? I did get an warning Clock skew detected. Now sure what this
> means. Would it cause a problem with the scsi module? Thanks for any
> help with this.
>
> Eric Hesselberg
>
> --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==--
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Here's a solution, I'm sure it's not _the_ solution... but it works.
Install Red Hat 5.2 without any SCSI stuff and when that's done, compile the
new kernel in the same way you already have done once.
This is not a problem in Red Hat 6.0
Hope this helps.
Eous
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ad astra per aspera
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: 10 May 1999 11:22:10 GMT
In article <IWOX2.638$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>performs a regulatory role in certain circumstances. The Government is
>>more involved than I'd prefer nowadays, but we certainly don't have a
>>command economy.
>
>The contention is probably about how free it really is.
>
>The "no such thing as a free market" claim tends to go on about how
>they're not *perfectly* free, then they're not free at all.
Not at all. The contention is that there is *NO* functioning market
on the planet that isn't monopolistic. Monopolistic is defined as the
top 5 producers owning more than 50% of the market. This is more than
enough to allow the producers to force flesh-gouging prices on the
consumers.
>There are places where there is enough coercion involved in trading that
>those markets are only minimally free.
Yes, this is the case with ALL functioning markets, where functioning
means to the producers not being bled dry and going bankrupt regularly.
>But the approximations that we can get, whereby we can find, without
>*grave* difficulty, vendors selling things that we *do* want to buy,
>indicates that there does exist a useful amount of freedom in the
>marketplace.
Bullshit.
>We have neither markets that are "ultimately" free, nor a total command
>economy, but something in between.
We do have a command economy. Billionaires command it.
>>Sure. You need to have a product someone wants to buy. It may or may
>>not need to be compatible with something else. Is that bad? What does
>>that have to do with the price of tea in Redmond, anyway?
>
>Those "barriers" can be likened to "transaction costs," which are one of
No, they *can't*. Barriers to market entry apply only to agents
wish into the market, not agents that are already in it.
>the legitimate reasons why stock markets are only approximately "free."
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From: Nico Zigouras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sendmail aliases question.
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 00:49:55 -0400
Hi all:
I have a question that is more related to sendmail than Linux
specifically, but I am using it on my Linux machine so I tought I would
ask here.
I am the sysadmi and I have an alias for allusers. I can send mail to
all of them, but I want to block anyone except admin from sending to
allusers or replying to allusers. Is there a way to configure this is
sendmail? Thanks in advance. Please at least reply to my email.
- Nico.
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From: Nico Zigouras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sendmail aliases question.
Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 23:31:43 -0400
Hi all:
I know this is not specifc to Linux, but I have a sendmail question that
hopefully someone can help me with.
I am the sysadmin and I have an alias for allusers that I want to send
to. But I don't want people to reply to all users, or be able toi write
to all users. How do I configure sendmail such that allusers can only
be mailed to from one mail box ( i.e. mine, admin ) ?
Thanks a lot in advance.
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From: Nico Zigouras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Aliases question in sendmail.
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 01:03:07 -0400
Hi all:
I have a question that is more relevant to sendmail, but since I am
running it on my Linux
box, I will ask it here. I have an alias for all the users on my system.
As the admin, I
want to send to all these aliases. No problem. But I want to prevent
regular users from
being able to respond to all or send a new message to all. Essentially I
just want a to all
email only to be allowed as sent from the admin box.
Thanks in advance for your help, please at least respond to my email
address.
- Nico.
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From: Brett Neely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sendmail aliases question.
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 05:00:04 -0700
The best way to do this would be with an internal mailing list. Mailing
list management software such as Majordomo -
http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/ - allows you to set up a mailing
list that is "moderated". Moderated lists require messages be approved
before they are sent out on the list. As the list administrator, you
could send out to the list. Anyone else who tried to write to the list
would basically be denied - you would receive their post and be offered
the chance to approve the posting, but you could simply delete the
message and it wouldn't go out on the list.
New users can subscribe via the normal majordomo subscription method, or
you can simply add their email address directly to the mailing list
file.
Hope this helps,
Nico Zigouras wrote:
>
> Hi all:
>
> I have a question that is more related to sendmail than Linux
> specifically, but I am using it on my Linux machine so I tought I would
> ask here.
>
> I am the sysadmi and I have an alias for allusers. I can send mail to
> all of them, but I want to block anyone except admin from sending to
> allusers or replying to allusers. Is there a way to configure this is
> sendmail? Thanks in advance. Please at least reply to my email.
>
> - Nico.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: 10 May 1999 11:41:35 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, witra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>market. Among other things, there must be no barriers to entry and
>exit and there should be a very large number of independent sellers
>and buyers. (Real free markets are rare in the world, most markets are
>monopolies and oligopolies).
The 'free' in free market referred to freedom from interference, from
control by any individual or group. No barriers to entry or exit are
consequences of the definition.
>In THAT kind of free market, government intervention may do more harm
>than good. An "invisible hand" regulates the price. I wouldn't go into
>the detailed explanation as to why this is so. I can't say I remember
>the arguments clearly, but there was a clear line of reasoning. It
>certainly is more than the simple faith in the statement that a "free
>market = good" and "govt regulation = bad".
The argument was that if you put a minimum price on the market then
some consumers who value the product less than that minimum price
won't buy it, whereas if you set a maximum price on the market then
some producers whose costs are more than that maximum price won't
sell the product. Either way, you reduce the number of transactions
and this is *assumed* to be bad because hey, why would someone trade
their kidney for a loaf of bread if the trade isn't beneficial to
them, right?
It never enters anyone's pea-brain that production and consumption
*should* be reduced for one reason or another.
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From: "Oliver D. Bedford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Display X on TV?
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:09:44 +0200
Stef wrote:
>
> : How do I display a X-session on a TV-set? What type of extra hardware
> : (software ?)
> : and how much money do I need?
>
> Get a graphic card for your computer with a video output.
Any recommendations?
The only affordable card I�ve found so far is the Hercules Stingray
128 3D (+TV)
(around 70 US-$, 120 Deutsch Marks). Remarks?
Bye,
Oliver
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: CTRL-S
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:25:39 GMT
On some TTYs, "Here Is" was named WRU, for "Who aRe yoU"
The ASCII character generated was (IIRC) an ENQ, and this
character would activate the answerback on a TTY device.
On Fri, 07 May 1999 20:18:21 -0700, "Scott.David.Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>"Here is" triggered the "answerback drum" It was a drum with plastic
>legs you could break off to encode a reply block (I must admit I don't
>know exactly how many characters long it was at max). It was meant to
>positively ID users. If you were attempting to be a hacker, you could
>obtain a full drum, and type as it turned to "or" the bits of the
>characters you typed with the drum's values (which, with a full drum,
>were all zeroes).
>
>-Scott David Daniels
>(old fogey: I am one of the oldest people to have learned young, having
>first programmed a machine in 1966 while I was between my freshman and
>junior year in high school).
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> Tony Smolar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> : In the olde days of Terminals, this was the method to freeze scrolling text
>> : so that it could be read. CTRL-Q resumes.
>>
>> On a somewhat related topic, what was the the purpose of the "Here is"
>> key found on old serial teletype printer terminals and what character
>> sequence did it send over the serial line? Did mainframe computers
>> make use of this key, or was it for Radio/Landline point-to-point
>> communications.
>>
>> Eric
Lew Pitcher
System Consultant, Integration Solutions Architecture
Toronto Dominion Bank
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Spawning processes via inittab
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:39:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm wondering what the proper way is of spawning a process via the
inittab is. What I want to do is set the inittab to respawn tn5250,
which is a login to our as400, versus doing the current /sbin/mingetty.
Here's what we have:
1:12345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1
2:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty2
3:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty3
I've tried the following
..
3:2345:respawn:/usr/bin/tn5250 newton -s TESTPC tty3
(When specifying tty3, I get an error indicating that the process is
respawning to fast and is being disabled. When I take out the tty3 the
process doesn't respawn when ended, and shows up on the first terminal.)
For kicks I tried this as well
..
2:2345:respawn:/usr/bin/top tty2
(I get errors that t is an invalid argument to top, which begs the
question, how does one separate arguments to the process from terminal
type information? Again the process respawns too fast and is disabled.)
Any help is appreciated. If it matters I'm running redhat 5.2.
Thanks in advance,
Brian Seppanen
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From: Alan Gauld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: CTRL-S
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:06:56 +0100
Lew Pitcher wrote:
> On some TTYs, "Here Is" was named WRU, for "Who aRe yoU"
> The ASCII character generated was (IIRC) an ENQ, and this
> character would activate the answerback on a TTY device.
Who aRe yoU originated in the world of telex:
Every telex machine could request WRU at any point during
a call and the remote machine would respond with its ID.
This enabled telex to be recognised as a legal document
for contract exchange etc - WRU at beginning and end
guaranteed the receiving machine was present at
beginning and end of the transaction.
That's one reason Telex is still used despite its
archaic technology (5 bit code not ASCII and 50-120
baud transfer speeds). Its still one of the very few
electronic transfer mechanisms that can provide
proof(at both ends!) or receipt of a message in
its entirety.
[ the other reason is that telex works at up to
+/-48% distortion on the line - important in
3rd world countries!]
> >(old fogey: I am one of the oldest people to have learned young, having
> >first programmed a machine in 1966 while I was between my freshman
Beats me, I started in '74. But I worked on Telex for
5 years from 1980...
> >> sequence did it send over the serial line? Did mainframe computers
> >> make use of this key, or was it for Radio/Landline point-to-point
> >> communications.
Some teletypes could be used as Telex receivers, it may be
related - although they would have needed a 5 bit
code <-> ASCII convertor.
Alan G.
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From: Zoran Cutura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Cron problems
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:19:04 +0200
Joseph Pamula wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Could someone please help me to correct the below problem. I receive
> the following message:
>
> "Subject: Cron <root@localhost> run-parts /etc/cron.hourly
> su: cannot run /bin/sh: Permission denied "
This indicates that there is one entry in your cron-file that will not
run
correctly. You should first check man cron, man crontab.
Than check the entry in cron.hourly and aferwards check if /bin/sh is
executable!
>
> I am using RedHat 5.1.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Joseph
bye
Zoran
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From: Mike Coffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: 06 May 1999 07:33:32 -0700
Ed Avis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Mike Coffin wrote:
>
> >Second, if give credit to governments for all the good they have
> >done---and they have done considerable good---then you have to balance
> >the books. How much harm have they done? I won't go into a litany of
> >the atrocities that even relatively enlightened governments have
> >committed in this century: I'm sure you could list them as well as I.
>
> Private companies and individuals have done some bad things too.
True, but hardly on the scale of governments.
-mike
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From: Duke Hwang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: {help) question for gnome
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 23:21:17 +0900
==============F5E6815DFE935D2F1A94171C
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
When I try to run gnome, i got strange error.
that is
"
[lgduke@lg lgduke]$ gnome-session
SESSION_MANAGER=local/lg.co.kr:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1242,tcp/lg.co.kr:3169
gdk_imlib: Cannot Find Palette. A Palette is required for this mode
gdk_imlib: Cannot Find Palette. A Palette is required for this mode
gdk_imlib: Cannot Find Palette. A Palette is required for this mode
connected
/panel/
debug: need old_cfg here
** ERROR **: sigsegv caught
** ERROR **: sigsegv caught
** ERROR **: sigint caught
"
please help me out.
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Content-Type: text/html; charset=EUC-KR
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
<HTML>
When I try to run gnome, i got strange error.
<BR>that is
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000099">"</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000099">[lgduke@lg lgduke]$ gnome-session</FONT>
<BR><FONT
COLOR="#000099">SESSION_MANAGER=local/lg.co.kr:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1242,tcp/lg.co.kr:3169</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000099">gdk_imlib: Cannot Find Palette. A Palette is
required for this mode</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000099">gdk_imlib: Cannot Find Palette. A Palette is
required for this mode</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000099">gdk_imlib: Cannot Find Palette. A Palette is
required for this mode</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000099">connected</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000099">/panel/</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000099">debug: need old_cfg here</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000099"></FONT>
<P><FONT COLOR="#000099">** ERROR **: sigsegv caught</FONT><FONT
COLOR="#000099"></FONT>
<P><FONT COLOR="#000099">** ERROR **: sigsegv caught</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000099"></FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000099"></FONT>
<P><FONT COLOR="#000099">** ERROR **: sigint caught</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000099">"</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000099"></FONT>
<P><FONT COLOR="#000000">please help me out.</FONT></HTML>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: 10 May 1999 11:33:01 GMT
In article <7gnqo5$dvv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Craig Dowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I define a free market economic system as one in which individuals, rather
>than government, make most of the decisions about economic activities and
But since "government" is just "a bunch of individuals" then a command
economy is a type of free market by your definition.
>role in certain circumstances. The Government is more involved than I'd
>prefer nowadays, but we certainly don't have a command economy.
We do.
>>the liberal doctrines you espouse developed in the 18th & 19th century
>>just as the reality they attempted to describe was transforming them
>>into nonsense. yes, a worker is free not to work, but this is more or
>>less the freedom to starve to death.
>
>What in hell are you going off about? Are you bridging off into a
>discussion of the merits of liberal socialism / social democracy?
He's talking about the fact that labour is not a free agent. That
labour is essentially enslaved.
Do you even know what "the law of supply and demand" originally meant,
moron? It meant that if wages rose then the working class would breed,
thus increasing supply and decreasing wages. OTOH, if wages declined
then the working class died off until the decreasing supply of labour
increased wages enough to let the working class survive. The "law of
supply and demand" was about how workers were *animals*!
Every 19th century economist recognized that "the law of supply and
demand" meant workers would be paid ONLY enough to avoid starvation
and *no* *more*. The fact that this was a "law" was "small consolation
for individuals who have no other means of survival than their labor."
to quote Adam Smith.
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From: Robert Wuest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Software for drawing flowcharts?
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:28:39 +0000
tgif, xfig, tcm, and others.
tcm is great, (but requires motif?). Search for Toolkit for Conceptual
Modeling 'cause I can't remember where its at.
Robert
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