Linux-Misc Digest #169, Volume #20               Wed, 12 May 99 13:13:12 EDT

Contents:
  Re: How to low-level format a SCSI (Villy Kruse)
  minicom and modem configuration (J Knight)
  Re: Linux on K62 ok? ("shalom77")
  Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows (Vernon Schryver)
  Re: Redhat 6 & SSH (Daniel Beckham)
  Re: HELP I can't connect to my ISP! (jan schrik)
  Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Peter)
  Re: File system for NT and Linux ("Tim Kelley")
  Re: Linux on K62 ok? (fred smith)
  Re: hard drive problems (M. Farrenkopf)
  Multimedia (Eous)
  Re: turning off screen blanking (Mark Tranchant)
  Re: display flickers nonstop ("D. Vrabel")
  Q: Can Linux read IRIX (5.3) filesystem? ("Ron")
  Re: Ken Thompson on Linux (Jon Skeet)
  Retaining values from /proc/sys? (Jon Skeet)
  Re: making linux go away ("Jan Johansson")
  Re: Gnome Help ! (Related Question) (Glenn)
  mt   tape command - assistance please (Administration)
  Nonstop flickering display (david letchumanan)
  Re: NTFS on Red Hat 6.0 (**Nick Brown)
  Re: Ken Thompson on Linux (Leslie Mikesell)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: How to low-level format a SCSI
Date: 12 May 1999 09:19:23 +0200

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Remco van den Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>
>You know that most disks are not allowed to be low level reformatted?
>
>-Remco


The format is a standard scsi command you would expect any scsi disk
drive to support.  If the disk unit is not allowed to do a real format
it might do something else, for example disk scan and bad track
re-allocation.

BTW, why has the word 'format' now become synonymous to 'make filesystem'.



Villy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Knight)
Subject: minicom and modem configuration
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 08:40:53 GMT

In setting-up my modem for linux, my ppp-on script seems to be working
fine, however I was having a lock-out problem with my modem, so I
tracked-down and removed a lock-file.  Now it seems that my modem
isn't configured correctly, but I'm not sure how to change the data
bits, stopbits, etc with minicom.  Can you help?
...Jason

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From: "shalom77" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on K62 ok?
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:14:42 +0800
Reply-To: "shalom77" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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I have little problem using Creative AGP 4mb SDRAM video card.
Would RedHat 6.0 resolve this problem?

Paul

Dustin Puryear wrote in message ...
>On Tue, 11 May 1999 14:43:08 +0100, Anthony Hook wrote:
>>
>>I'm considering upgrading my ageing P120.
>>
>>Have any of you experienced problems running Linux on one of those K62 =
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>>Are there any motherboards I should watch out for?
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>I'm running Linux on a K6-2/333 and have had no problems.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vernon Schryver)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows
Date: 12 May 1999 09:13:52 -0600

In article <7hap0q$k3r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ...
>Actually I am not sure that the load went particularly high as the
>system would grind to a halt.  It was basically only doing sendmail
>and all of the processes were waiting for something.  But, when enough
>copies push VM far enough into swap it just takes forever to do
>anything.  If you have sized your swap reasonably, I'd expect it
>to be a good default to defer starting anything that could possibly
>wait if you've used up half of the swap space.

You seem rather interested in swap space.  Why stop at 50% instead of 30%,
70%, 90% or 100%?  What is magic about 50%?  The standard dictum about
swap space for 25 years has been that if it ever needs to use swap space
for active processes, the system is toast.  As CPU speeds have increased
by about 1000 times but disk (and 'drum') speeds have by only about 4,
the dictum is 500 times more true than it was in ancient days when Seymour
Cray &co said all those bad things about virtual memory.

You could be right about sendmail causing VM thrashing on your system,
but I'd be surprised.  If the system does a reasonable job on fork(), if
it uses copy-on-write for the new sendmail processes, then I'd expect far
higher costs from what sendmail does to ../spool/mqueue.  If the system
uses copy-on-write, and if it allocates swap space conservatively (e.g.
based on the total size of the process including the currently read-only
copy-on-write pages instead of the number of writable pages), then most 
of its allocated swap space will never be written or read.

If you were using a sendmail from the last several years, every time it
starts from scratch, it read and parsed sendmail.cf, since the old frozen
coonfiguration file mechanism is gone from the standard source.  It will
also read and process as if sending to every address on the right side of
every  line in /etc/aliases.  That involves a *lot* of code, as a full
ruleset 0/4/..., including a gethostbyname() for every expanded address.
If you have 10,000 aliases, that can take a while.  If you gateway from
UUCP, netnews, or cgi scripts, or the 30-second queue runs were via cron,
that could have been a big load.

If mqueue contains 500 jobs, then mqueue will contain about 1500 files.
At the start of every 30-second queue run, sendmail will be reading and
sorting mqueue, and reading and parsing 500 of those ~1500 files so that
it can discover which files are locked by other processes and what job
should be started first.  Besides parsing the qf* files, it will be trying
to open corresponding lock files.  Sendmail will do the equivalent of 500
`ls` commands every 30 seconds as it reads each job, and then checks the
lock file.  Could the system do `repeat 500 ls .../mqueue` fast enough?
That was a major problem with the file directory structures in classic
BSD and System V. 

That corporate filewall I've mentioned had problems with big mqueue
directories before the new version with the fast file system was installed.
The fast file system involved a B tree for file directories, and so could
very quickly (fail to) open a (non-existent) file.  When that firewall
got bogged down with sendmail, both before the new filesystem and after,
and after various version of the filesystem and with various incarnations
of hardware, it was not trashing the VM system but the filesystem.  It
got bogged down when it had been off the air for several hours due to
network problems or having been down.  5 msg/second is not too hard while
the system keeps up.  If 90,000 msgs accumulate during a 5 hour network
outage and flood in at once when the net is fixed, then the system has a
real load.


Vernon Schryver    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Beckham)
Subject: Re: Redhat 6 & SSH
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:17:01 -0500

I'm having trouble with both ssh1 and ssh2 myself.  ftp.replay.com isn't 
working at the moment... anyone else have a work around for the stupid 
error saying that such and such variable isn't a member of such and such 
struct?  Looks like some header file is missing or something...

Irritating... Redhat 6 is totally useless without ssh installed.  I'll 
send my first born to hell before I use telnet for anything...

In article <7gcuf8$7vb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
says...
> Ron Luman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Has anybody had any luck installing SSH (1.2 or 2.0) over a vanilla Redhat 6
> >install?
> 
> I suspect the RPMs available on ftp.replay.com will work on it (at worst,
> after recompilation).
> 
> Ray
> 

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From: jan schrik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.comp.linux.isp,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,nl.comp.os.linux,worldonline.linux
Subject: Re: HELP I can't connect to my ISP!
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:24:25 +0200




> van Leur wrote in message <7h4o6p$l9d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >My modem is connected to COM3 in DOS/WINDOWS and works fine in Windows.
> >Bram van Leur
> >
> >P.S. Sorry for my bad English. I'm from Holland
> >
> Vanwege je slechte (nou ja 't viel wel mee) engels dan maar in het
> nederlands. Aangezien je modem op com3 hangt denk ik dat het een intern
> modem is, wat is het er voor een ? Als het een PCI modem is kan het een
> Winmodem zijn, dat si meestal herkenbaar doordat er voor het modem onder
> windhoos een stukje software wordt toegevoegd dat je dan in het
> configuratiescherm van windhoos terug vind en aan het feit dat het _alleen_
> maar PnP is (verder geen enkele jumper dus)

Mocht dit niet het geval zijn, dan moet je eens proberen wat Minicom met je
modem kan. als het niet geinitialiseerd wordt dan kun je het schudden en moet
je op zoek gaan naar een modem dat wel met linux samen kan werken, bijvoorkeur
een ISA exemplaar.
Als je RH goed ingesteld hebt staan en ervoor hebt gezorgd dat een eventueel
alternatief Irq ook in Linux geldt (ik kan me voorstellen dat Com1 en Com3 met
elkaar conflicteren) setserial /dev/ttySn  irq x wil dit wel eens oplossen.
Zo moet het wel kunnen
Greetz
Jan

>





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:48:55 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Coffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > The icon of libertarianism is Ayn Rand, a cruel, selfish bitch who
> > hammered everyone around her in demonstration of "The Virtue of
> > Selfishness" (the libertarian motto as well as the title of one of her
> > books).
> 
> No, you are wrong.  Ayn Rand is the icon of Objectivism, not
> libertarianism.  Objectivism is not the same is libertarianism.  The
> fact that they happen to agree on some issues doesn't make them the
> same.  And the libertarian motto is *not* "The Virtue of Selfishness."
> 


Mike
It seems to me that theses poster have never read "Anthem".

-- 
Peter



" Don't you eat that yellow snow
     Watch out where the huskies go"
                                    FZ

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From: "Tim Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: File system for NT and Linux
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:10:47 -0500


Wolfgang Ganzert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
>
> I want to use WinNT 4.0 and Linux to share the same data partition on a
> disk. (size 9GB). The problem is that Linux does not support NTFS in the
> "normal" distribution of the Kernel 2.036. On the other side WinNT does
> not recognize ext2fs from Linux.
> For FAT32 a special driver for WinNT is needed. Also the file attributes
> rwx from Linux ar not supported on the FAT32. This is a problem when
> running shell scripts from FAT32 on Linux.
>
> What would be the best solution to share the large data?

FAT, because the permissions won't get screwed up; there isn't any other
way.  NT doesn't recognize too many filesystems.   Kernel 2.2 does support
NTFS read-only (R-W is experimental).

You might try to look for some third party driver for NT that let's it read
ext2 - I think I remember hearing about this at one time.

The ideal way is to share via smb over a network.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (fred smith)
Subject: Re: Linux on K62 ok?
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 22:39:07 GMT

Anthony Hook ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

: I'm considering upgrading my ageing P120.

: Have any of you experienced problems running Linux on one of those K62 (&
: K63) chips? 

I just recently bought a FIC VA503+ motherboard with K6-2/350 processor,
and it runs like a dream. I chose that board because of a number of postings
in various linux groups from others who claim it runs well for them.
FIC claims the board will go as high as 450Mhz with a K6-3, though I
obviously have no experience with that. You may wish to check out
http://www.fic.com.tw and follow the links from there to AMD for a 
list of approved boards for the K6 family of processors.

i've had serious trouble with Windoze95 on it, though, (the system
dul-boots) apparently because windoze hates to have the world changed
out from under it without its permission. OTOH put an identical board
into my wife's computer, which runs Windoze only, and it also runs
real sweet.
--
---- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----------------------------
  "And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father,
  Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there will be no end. He 
 will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding
      it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever."
=============================== Isaiah 9:7 (niv) ==============================

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From: mattf*@aracnet.com (M. Farrenkopf)
Subject: Re: hard drive problems
Date: 12 May 1999 15:53:56 GMT

On Tue, 11 May 1999 20:45:09 -0500, Al Goins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>When i decided to put Linux on my machine I put a second ard drive in.

[snipperoo]

>Now I have a Maxtor 8.4 Gig drive on Primary IDE master.  i have a CD-Rom as
>the slave on the primary ide.  then i have a second maxtor 8,4 gig drive on
>the secondary ide as a master.

[8<]

>When it displays the system resources right before running either win98 or
>Linux it says the primary ide master is an LBA UDMA drive but it say for the
>secondary ide master CHS, Mode 0 drive.  I have told the mother board they
>are both LBA drives, it does auto-detect them in the bios setup.
>
>Now i get occasional weird errors.  One time win98 ( on the primary drive)
>told me that the dirve was either set for LBA and not an LBA or it is not
>set for LBA and it is an LBA drive and not set for LBA.  Scan disk comes up
>with occasional errors in Linux and Win98.

I'm not an expert in this area, but I'd check a couple of things:

(1) When you remove the new HD, does the system come back as normal?

If so ...

(2) Are you sure you've jumpered the drive correctly for the master
position?

I do know that most (all?) IDE drives have a master configuration for
dual-drive configurations, but then they have a separate setting for when
they are the only drive on the interface.  Perhaps you set it up for the
"master" in a dual-drive environment on that interface, and you're only
running one drive?

Just a shot in the dark ...

Matt

-- 
==========================================================================
"Why put fault tolerance in the OS, when it's already built into the User?"
        - Steve Shaw, comp.os.linux.advocacy, on the apparent lack of
          fault tolerance in MS Windows-series of OS's.

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From: Eous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Multimedia
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:35:15 +0200

Hello,

Does anybody know if support for Quicktime movies (*.MOV) and MPG movies
(*.MPG) exists for Xanim?
It seems as though I'm only able to play AVI's.
And can anyone point me to where an i386 RPM for GXanim 0.30 is?

Thanks in advance

Eous
--
ad astra per aspera


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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: turning off screen blanking
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:33:53 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Possibly in one of your setup scripts. Look for "setterm blank" in
/etc/rc.d (on a Slackware system).

Mark.

Tim Kelley wrote:
> 
> Where is this done?  I'd like for my console to NOT turn off ... I can't
> find the setting for this ...
> 
> --
> Tim Kelley
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: display flickers nonstop
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:20:52 +0100

On 12 May 1999, david letchumanan wrote:

> Hi there, I am one of the newbie to Linux and to this site.  We have a 
> Linux PC sitting in a courner as a printserver.  We swapped the monitor 
> without any changing any configuration.  It was ok for monre than two 
> months.  Yesterday  I did a shutdown now -r on it.  It has configured to 
> start xwindows. It came back upto starting xdm and the display flickers 
> nonstop.  We are unable to do anything to stop this.  "Ctrl+Alt+F1" did not 
> help.  We are running s.u.s.e Linux 5.1. We have no boot disk.  We need 
> help getting into the system.  PC is running and the printing is fine.  
> Just the flickering display.  Please help! 
Sure it's not the monitor thats broken?

David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.


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From: "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Q: Can Linux read IRIX (5.3) filesystem?
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:54:34 +0200
Reply-To: "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This is fun I hope

I have an SGI-box, a Linux box, a Win98-box.
I also have a couple of SGI-cd's  (patches / newer version) but no player in
the SGI-box.

Q: What options do I have, without bying a player for the SGI...

Hope somebody invented this wheel...

Tia
Ron



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: Ken Thompson on Linux
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 08:54:44 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > Must go - got to check the Linux mailserver I'm testing with 250
> > concurrent users...
> 
> Am I supposed to be impressed by that? (Sorry, that sounded horrid - it
> wasn't meant to!). Microsoft Exchange can handle 250 users no problem.

Ah, but Exchange is doing rather more simple things than our 
mailserver...

Of course, it's also doing complicated things that few people want, but 
that's another matter.

-- 
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Retaining values from /proc/sys?
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 08:57:44 +0100

I'm running Linux 2.2.7, and I came across an interesting problem 
yesterday.

I've been tuning my system so it can cope more easily with the heavy (and 
specific) loads I'm placing on it. This involved increasing 
/proc/sys/fs/file-max and /proc/sys/net/tcp_max_syn_backlog, and 
decreasing /proc/sys/net/tcp_fin_timeout.

I did the changes by just writing to the file 
(eg echo 16384 > /proc/sys/fs/file-max) but on rebooting, the values were 
back to their original states.

I thought they were supposed to stay as I'd set them across reboots? If 
not, could someone tell me how I *can* change them permanently?

-- 
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/

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From: "Jan Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: making linux go away
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:16:08 +0200

Why delpart? fdisk can remove a linux partition.



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From: Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gnome Help ! (Related Question)
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:32:32 -0400

Hi,

If you mean that you have two different "wallpaper" screens startup,
just disable/select none for one of them. I had the same problem a while
back with WindowMaker and gnome. The same applies to Enlightenment. Both
allow you to have wallpaper.

I have a problem now with gnome always trying to start two panels -
can't figure it out yet however.

Glenn
=========

Antaine wrote:

> David Tabachnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Antaine wrote:
>
> >> > #!/bin/bash
> >> > gnome-session
> >>
> >> I have that in my .xinitrc in the root directory and when
> >> I "startx" as root it cranks up two sessions. The first
> >> screen comes up, it sits there a second, then the screen
> >> I use comes up. I've tried everything from altering the
> >> Xclients file to leaving the Xclients file and commenting
> >> out "gnome-session" in .xinitrc. When I do the later GNOME
> >> won't start at all. Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
> > I think the first screen is Enlightenment starting up...
> > the only thing to do is, change a window manager.
>
> Thanks. That's a distinct possibility. I'll look into it.
>
> > --
> > -------------------------------------------------
> > David Tabachnikov
> > Second Horizon
> > http://gulfan.bc.ca/shorizon/index.htm
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > UIN 3600179
> > -------------------------------------------------
>
>


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From: Administration <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mt   tape command - assistance please
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:16:16 GMT

New to linux user here :-)


I'm partial to writing my own tape backup scripts and other massochistic
pursuits.

I have several backup scripts working on older CLIX boxes ( Intergraph
machines ).

So now that I have linux "UP" and "X"ing , and "netting"  et al ...
I'd like to put some backup capability with it. 
to this end an Exabyte 8505 is installed and working.
I spent two hours discovering that the device was referred to as,

/dev/st0 and NOT /dev/st6  as the scsi address is set to !!!  Thanks
linux :-(

I've  even used "tar" with the /dev/nst0  device to place multiple save
sets on the tape.

SO WHAT'S THE RUB  ?   ...

To get stuff off the tape or to simply list what's in "n" saveset 
I'd LIKE to do an ...
mt -f /dev/nst0 fsf n  
command  first then do the 
tar tvf /dev/nst0 
 
When I do  ... and the tape does not move! The drive flashes only once.

I have been able to do "successive" ...
tar tvf /dev/nst0
commands to successively "list" the contents of the files that have been
tar'd

HOWZ COME  THE danged " mt " command  "she dont like me"  ??? :-(

Ok OK oK I even tried mt -f /dev/nst0 fsr n   to no avail also.

the expensive and  HUGE " Complete Command Reference" book from Redhat
Press 
conveniently  LEFT OUT the mt command !  ? 

Am I just having a bad day or what ?

thankx for any and all 

Bob Neitzke   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: david letchumanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Nonstop flickering display
Date: 12 May 1999 16:32:38 GMT

Hi there, I am not sure of previous posting of this question right.  So, I 
am doing it again.  We have a pritserver running S.u.S.E 5.1 Linux.  A 
while ago we just swapped the monitor without any changes to the 
xf86setup.  It was working fine.  Yesterday I did a "shutdown now -r" on 
it.  PC came back upto starting xdm...,(it goes into xwindow straight) but 
the the display won't come up.  Just keeps flickering.  We are unable to 
stop this.  (We tried "Ctrl+Alt+F1" and no help).  PC is functioning and 
the printing is just fine.  Just the flickering display.  Please help.  
How can we get in.  We do not have boot disk.  Thanks.  David L (one of 
the newbie)

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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NTFS on Red Hat 6.0
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:36:55 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You need to rebuild your kernel with NTFS included, or build the kernel
module for NTFS.  Start with /usr/doc/HOWTO/Kernel.HOWTO.

"Thomas R. Shannon" wrote:
> 
> I was told that Red Hat 6.0 would support mounting NTFS partitions
> read-only.  I have upgraded from 5.2.  When running the mount command
> I get:
> 
> "fs type ntfs not supported by kernel"

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: Ken Thompson on Linux
Date: 12 May 1999 11:32:00 -0500

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rob Fisher  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In my experience Linux is as good as or better than Solaris as an NFS
>> server supporting a few hundred workstations, as a timesharing system
>> supporting 100 to 200 concurrent users, as a mail server, as a DNS
>> server, as a netnews server, as a Samba server serving a few hundred
>> Windows machines, etc.
>
>Great. In my experience it isn't.

What did you do wrong? (Well, NFS isn't that great...).

>> Linux has not yet penetrated the area of high-volume transaction
>> processing and very large databases, but I suspect that has to do with
>> the lack of a good logical volume manager and journaling file system,
>> but AFIK those are under construction.
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>This is an area where I believe Linux may struggle. If you look at
>things like DiskSuite or LVM, they're hugely complicated pieces of
>software, which by their very nature have to be exceptionally reliable.
>It's going to be hard for the bedroom hackers to match them. 

I think what we will see eventually is some competition in the
network-attached disk business. If it weren't for the price, I'd
toss everything on a NetApp or two and forget about disk drivers
and filesystems that are married to my main operating systems. 
Maybe someone will even build such a thing on a Linux base.

>I was really disappointed with WINE. I think it's just too hard a
>project when M$ can move the goalposts so easily. And although it's
>interesting I also see it as essentially pointless. If you want to run
>Windows apps and you've got the hardware in front of you, why not just
>go into Windows?

I really hate having the space taken by two machines on my desktop
(well, ok, I have more than two, but I'd like to get rid of the one
running Windows...) and not being able to cut and paste everywhere.
VMware looks fairly promising but I need a little faster machine
for it.  At least you can access it remotely via normal X, so the
fast CPU doesn't have to live on your own desk.

>It's okay for if you want to dash off a quick Word
>document while your new code compiles, but it's never going to help
>Linux conquer the desktop is it? Most desktop users /only/ want to use
>Word.

And Excel, and a web browser, and email.  We've got 2 out of 4.

     Les Mikesell
      [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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