Linux-Misc Digest #187, Volume #20 Thu, 13 May 99 14:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: GNU reeks of Communism ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: *.tgz ("Jort Verhoeven")
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Mike Coffin)
Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?)
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Starting X at boot-up ("Jort Verhoeven")
Re: running Linux on a 2 cpu system (Joe Strout)
Re: page faults (jason)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Marco
Anglesio)
Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?)
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Strange password problem (Robert Thomas)
Re: Software for drawing flowcharts? (Michael Hirsch)
How intall soundCard ? ("MikeWang")
car mp3 player (David L. Bilbey)
Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (Steve Lamb)
Re: Did someone say sudo? (was 'Is Unix a single user operating system?') (Steve
Lamb)
Re: Red Hat 6.0 - SMP and CPU usage problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
RPM file listing (Janet)
Re: Permission denied (Mihaly Gyulai)
Modem on Compaq Armada & Turbo Linux (medelinux)
Re: Eudora-like mail program for linux? (With Filters etc) (Stan Barr)
nfs directory shows up empty (Stefano Ghirlanda)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: 13 May 1999 15:50:47 GMT
In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
eloquently scribe:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Powe
: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> Nothing wrong with my memory. My contention is simply that if you set
:> up a linux box for your mother the way her Windoze box was set up, she
:> would have no more problem learning how to use it than she did
:> learning the 'doze box. And she'd have the advantage of never having
:> to deal with broken video drivers, illegal ops or BSOD.
: Is this serious?
Seems like it to me.
: As much as I dispise Windows, I'd really hate to have to help my Mom
: through root, permission, /etc, fdisk, etc.
He did say completely set up. There wouldn't really be much need for your
mum to do ANY CLI stuff at all of all the software she wanted was available
from the KDE menus and desktop, for example. Unless she wanted to learn.
: Most of the Windows users I know just plugged their machine in and it
: worked.
That's what he meant by "set up the way her Windoze machine was." i.e. Fully
configured out of the box and ready to play.
: Their biggest trouble comes with trying to add peripherals.
True. But how often does joe user replace the video card?
(Memory upgrades would be no problem though)
: Windows makes that pretty hard, plug n play is a joke today. But
: their systems work. They surf, they play games, they are generally
: happy. The system rarely crashes if that's all they ask out of it.
Hmmmm... But it does still crash.
: I see the Free GUI OS coming, but todays offerings on top of Linux
: are very immature and are no improvement over Windows. They are
: too contstricting for the power user to work within, and to little
: for the beginer.
Power users are never constricted by them, because they can always open a
shell.
I disagree about there being too little for the beginner though.
KDE is a very nice desktop. (A little slow on my 486, but fast enough on a
good pentium system).
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From: "Jort Verhoeven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: *.tgz
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:52:50 +0200
gzip -cd <filename> | tar xvf -
Nevyn wrote in message <7hcols$r3r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>very simple question i know but how do i uncompresscompleatly a tgz
>file....i used gunzip(?) an it made a tar file that i can nothing
>with...what do i do next?.....if anyones willing to help..mail me an answer
>@ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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From: Mike Coffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: 13 May 1999 09:53:36 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens) writes:
> Libertarianism may not be founded on the principle of "might
> makes right" but that state of affairs is the logical outcome
> of trying to implement libertarian ideals.
How?
This reminds me of the fourth grade: a popular pastime was finding
someone gullible and, by sheer repetition, convincing him that the sun
rose in the west during the summer, or other such nonsense. Repeating
nonsense doesn't make it true.
> >(Got to keep contradicting the Big Lies. :-)
>
> The biggest lie is that libertarianism would increase freedom
> for any but the select few.
Why?
-mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:44:45 GMT
Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>snip<
: Glibc isn't just for Linux anymore. Other people can play too.
Why bother? Pretty much everyone else has a working libc, and
likely one that's far more optimized.
--
-Zenin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
My code is filled with comments! It's just that my comments are
written in Perl.
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From: "Jort Verhoeven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Starting X at boot-up
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:55:23 +0200
Change the systems runlevel to 5 at bootup by editing /etc/inittab (the line
with the string "initdefault")
Jim McIntyre wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Some question about my boot-up process.
>
>1. How do I boot Linux directly into X. I cant' find the command to use
>anywhere.
>2. Do I insert the command into .bashrc or Xinitrc.
>3. Are there any potential security compromises associated with booting
>directly into X.
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Jim McIntyre
>Webmaster Program
>Dalhousie University
>Halifax, Nova Scotia
>
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From: Joe Strout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: running Linux on a 2 cpu system
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 09:14:20 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ronald D. Haynes
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, I have a 2 cpu motherboard that I have been considering building a
> system from.
> Does Linux support multiple CPU systems? Any documentation or links
> that would be of interest?
If it's a 2 CPU PowerMac system, then linuxppc will do it:
http://www.linuxppc.com/
Cheers,
-- Joe
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From: jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: page faults
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:08:40 -0400
Bad memory is a very likely possibility. I bought new RAM last year that was
bad upon arrival. I used this excellent program to test it and verify it
was bad:
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/hardware/memtest86-1.4a.tar.gz
You install it like a kernel -- loaded via LILO, or a boot disk.
Good luck,
-jason
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Anglesio)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 17:06:27 GMT
On Thu, 13 May 1999 15:03:22 GMT, Peter Seebach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Marco Anglesio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>employers - even with an arbitrary, high number of employers, upwards wage
>>pressure is hardly a problem so long as there are plenty of prospective
>>employees.
>
>True.
>
>However, over time, unless the birth rate is really high, the trend seems
>to be to run out of employees.
On the contrary. So long as the country is growing and birth+immigration
outpace death, which both of ours still are, the trend is to be to have
yet more employees. And very few countries are shrinking - several in
sub-saharan Africa are because of epidemic AIDS with no effective and
affordable treatment. I think that the former USSR is, because of
emigration and increased mortality in the post-communist era. Still, we're
not there.
Capitalism is, as you've observed, somewhat of a ponzi scheme - you need
an increasing supply of workers to keep wages low; you need an increasing
number of consumers to take up the output of the increasing number of
workers.
>Interesting; I've seen claims that it's gone up or down over the same time,
>too. :) I'd love to see *real* statistics. One of the problems I've seen
>is that some statistics decide not to include certain classes of work in
>their analysis of income.
Certain classes of income or certain classes of work? Statistics Canada
takes their figures from taxation data, I believe. Of course, this doesn't
count the grey economy.
>Look at someone who's been working more than two or three years. You get
>to the point where that 2% could be enough to allow you to pay off your car
You're not really referring to income, but to capitalization, which isn't
quite the same thing. It would be nice if everyone had sufficient capital.
However, returning the EI premiums to the employee wouldn't do that - you
wouldn't have the lump sum to pay for your own car, or your own house;
you'd get a tiny bit more in a month.
>Remember, it's not just the money. It's the indirect effects. It's not
>paying 10 to 20 percent credit card interest rates on the debt you paid
>off sooner. It's not getting a $15 "overdraft" fee for a $2.50 check.
You're assuming that spending would be *exactly the same*. Which has no
real basis in fact. When people earn more, even just a little more, they
spend more.
At the same time, you're assuming that reinsurance premiums would be
returned to the employee. That is an entirely baseless assertion;
companies pay the employee as little as they can and still get away with
it. It is the essence of capitalism - you are paid what the market will
bear, and not a penny more. If your employer can pocket ten more dollars
through the fruits of your labour, they will, and you won't see a dime of
it.
>True. But, with EI, the people who end up walking away with enough money to
>matter are the THOUSANDS of full-time desk clerks paid to administer the
>system.
So you're not opposed to EI, per se, just its administration? All
insurance (as in life or casualty, not just federally mandated plans)
companies require scads of labour, believe it or not, to push paper and
keep records. However, they pay out quite well, considering. I'd think
that EI, given that it's a mandatory plan and shares records with other
governmental programs, would do quite well when it comes to administrative
costs.
>Except, of course, that often, a job like that will, after a while, turn into
>a better deal. Maybe it'll let you get qualifications in another industry.
That's an awful lot of maybes. Maybe a minimum wage job, like most minimum
wage jobs, involves no qualifications, no skills, no upwards mobility, and
no future. If they did, they wouldn't be minimum wage jobs.
m.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:52:00 GMT
Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>snip<
: Well, with linux there is the kernel and then there are third party
: packages. A clear distinction as well, but not a very useful one.
My god, we actually agree on something. :-)
:>2. People seem to be forgetting that there are more than two options
:> (/ and /usr/local). Is it so hard to grasp three distinct
:> trees?
:>
:> a) the core OS
:> b) packaged 3rd party software
:> c) local stuff
:>
:> This allows (relatively) independent release cycles and upgrades
:> of each piece. I can upgrade the core OS just by clobbering the
:> old and installing the new, all without disturbing any of the
:> third party or local software.
:
: Good point. All I'm really after is the ability to mkfs the system
: partition(s) without losing anything of my own.
Which is exactly what everyone is telling you; That only Linux is
silly enough to mix the system and non-system parts and make this
bothersome.
: However, most everything you grab in source form wants to install itself
: in /usr/local,
Of course, because it's smart enough to know it isn't a system
piece. Once you build/install it, it *is* "yours" and not the
system's.
: so it's extra work to modify the install destination of your locally
: tweaked stuff so you can turn over /usr/local to the stock packages.
Just because FooWowBizBang 1.2 comes in a package doesn't mean that
it isn't "yours". Anything non-system is "yours", regardless of
what method you use to install it.
It really sounds to me like 99.9% of your problems are simply do to
the fact you're trying to fight the system instead of work with it.
Give in, you'll feel much better. :-)
--
-Zenin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
My code is filled with comments! It's just that my comments are
written in Perl.
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From: Robert Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Strange password problem
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 08:55:10 -0500
Rob Fisher wrote:
> > I am running RH5.2 and when I log on to the OS I have noticed that
> > as long as I type the correct password everthing is OK. When I type the
> > password plus additional characters, it also is accepted.
> >
> > For example, if my password is 'simple' , I can also type
> > 'simple12345' or 'simpleabcd' or any other string as long as my password
> > is the first set of characters. Is this normal ?
>
> How long is your passwd? Unix only uses the first eight characters of
> the passwd, so the ninth letter onward are igonred. Does that explain
> it? If not then I don't see what it could be.
>
> Rob
You are right. My root password is 'pegasus' which is 7 characters. When I
add the eight character it will not accept it. My user password is 'corvette'
which just happens to be 8 characters so naturally any other chars are
ignored.
Thanks a bunch for the information. I was not aware of the 8 char limit on
passwords, I will try to find some doc on it. Eight characters seems to me to
be too short for a really secure system, don't you think?
Robert
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From: Michael Hirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Software for drawing flowcharts?
Date: 13 May 1999 10:02:48 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William C. Cheng) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hello,
> > What software is available in Linux to draw flowcharts? Particular,
> >I want tools to do Unified Modeling ( I just want the diagram, no need
> >for forward/reverse engineering, but if there exists one, I will also be
> >interested in ).
>
> You can give tgif a try. It's not as polished or powerful as Viso (but
> it has a better price/performance ratio -- it's free). Its home page is
> <URL:http://bourbon.cs.umd.edu:8001/tgif/>. You can select objects from
> its Shape Menu to draw simple flowchart objects. Currently, it doesn't
> support UML objects, but I'm planning to add some support for it in
> version 4.2 (I'm hoping to get that out this month).
I agree that tgif is a nice tool, but you might want to try angela,
too. It is a graph drawing tool with a plugin architecture. I think
it can do flowcharts, and, if not, it should be easy to add the
capability.
http://www.mpi-sb.mpg.de/~pabst/angela
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From: "MikeWang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How intall soundCard ?
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:03:47 +0800
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From: David L. Bilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: car mp3 player
Date: 13 May 1999 16:04:06 GMT
I'm looking into constructing an mp3 player for my car. I've searched the
web, but come up with lots of useless (for me) info. Basically, what I'm
looking for is a linux mp3 program that I can use for the playing. It
should support keypad control, and ideally, output to an LCD screen. Does
anyone have any pointers. If not, where can I get info on writing one
myself? Thanks.
David Bilbey
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mixed up a little bit. Then, as you go along, get better and better.
Then, at the end, give off a white, glowing light and have rays shoot out
of you." --Jack Handey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel
Date: 13 May 1999 16:43:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 13 May 1999 14:54:40 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> And the problems you've had with ports are what, exactly?
The whole concept of it. The fact that it is cobbled together from a
zillion different sources. There is no central repository which means when
any one of the things in ports changes, might as well throw away the whole
tree.
> Upgrading the system, or user apps?
Yes.
> If it's the system, what's so hard about sysinstall->Upgrade?
> -Which, BTW, has *nothing* to do with ports.
On a production machine? I'm sorry, no.
> If it's a user app, what's so hard about cd /usr/ports/foo && make
> install? This is "too damned hard" how, exactly?
No dependency checking at all.
> But you haven't said *why*. Until you do, you're nothing but
> baseless FUD.
Which is no less than most of the FreeBSD weenies I see running around
blasting Linux left and right with utter and complete FUD.
My *SPECIFIC* problem with ports is no dependency checking at all. There
is no way to install a program and have the libraries associated with it be
selected and included. If there is, it sure isn't documented well. The *ONE*
time I had to fight ports to install tk/tcl for another application was enough
for me to swear off it for good.
Compare that to Debian. I go into deselect, select slrn, for example, it
automatically selects slang for me if it isn't installed and gives me the
option of choosing slrn-pull or not. It was real nice installing the GIMP. I
picked GIMP, all of the require libraries were selected for me, I chose a few
extra things which were useful and less than a minute later it was installed.
Let's compare ports, eh? make gimp, whoops, need GTK. CD to that
directory, make that. Whoops, it needs something else. CD to that directory
make it. OK, done with those. make gimp again. Whoops, needs something
else. Repeat for about 5-7 libraries. Once those are installed you have the
base GIMP. But wait, I'm glossing over the fact that we're not installing
anything, we're downloading and compiling it! Hey, it's great that you can do
that, and Debian should be able to let people to do that, but I don't think
that EVERY program installed needs to be compiled locally. There simply is no
need for a local compile unless you're looking for a specific optimization on
some application that you need to run for critical use. I've compiled and
installed slrn/slang by hand many times on many different systems. You know
what, I see no difference from the precompiles one I get through Debian save
that it is faster, easier and cheaper.
Ports is a throwback to a bygone era. It is good that it is there, it
SHOULD be there. But it should not be regarded as the end-all, be-all way to
do things. It should be one OPTION of doing things to make it easy for those
who need to do it that way, or want to do it that way. But to make it a
requirement, to say it is the *BEST* is a big, fat JOKE.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Subject: Re: Did someone say sudo? (was 'Is Unix a single user operating system?')
Date: 13 May 1999 16:44:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 13 May 1999 10:17:58 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Description: Provides limited super user privileges to specific users.
Sudo is a program designed to allow a sysadmin to give limited root
privileges to users and log root activity. The basic philosophy is to give
as few privileges as possible but still allow people to get their work done.
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ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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Subject: Re: Red Hat 6.0 - SMP and CPU usage problems
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:51:33 GMT
According to Phillip George Geiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I had a perfectly running dual Pentium Pro system running
> Red Hat 5.2. I wiped the drive and installed Red Hat 6.0
> and have had a few problems. It's been so long since I
> installed 5.2 or had to tweak it that I can't remember if I
> had to do anything "heroic" to get it to work.
I just set up a dual PII-333 machine with RH 6.0 a few days ago. It
was my first foray into RH 6.0, SMP, and the 2.2 kernel.
> #1, the system refused to give any process more than 50% of
> the CPU time. With 5.2, I could run two number crunching programs,
> check top, and see two processs each using 99.5% or so CPU time.
My guess is that top was not SMP aware under 5.2, or was performing
differently. I get the same behaviour on my machine, and I am
presuming that 100% CPU usage means that *both* CPUs are being fully
utilised. On an otherwise idle machine, one CPU-intensive job sends
CPU usage up to 48% and two CPU-intensive jobs sends the usage up to
98%.
> With 6.0 and one process, I get 50%; with two processes, I get 50%
> and 50%; with three processes, I get 33%, 33%, and 33%; etc.
> I.e., each process is capped at 50%, and the system doesn't get the
> 200% it was getting.
I suppose someone realised that claiming 200% CPU usage was a bit
misleading. ;-)
> #2, it only seems to be aware of one CPU. I switched the
> kernel symbolic link in /boot to point to the default 2.2.5
> kernel with smp, ran lilo, and rebooted, the login screen
> correctly lists the smp kernel. I still get the same behavior
> as in #1.
My RH 6.0 did SMP right out of the box. No custom configs, no kernel
tweaking, no nuthin'. I was quite impressed, actually.
-p.
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From: Janet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RPM file listing
Date: 13 May 1999 10:17:02 -0700
Whenever I use rpm to install a package, I get a series of messages
package _______ not listed in file index
It seems to print such a line for every file in the package. Is this a
problem?
Janet
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From: Mihaly Gyulai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Permission denied
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:34:08 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Joseph Pamula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I issue the following command: su "user name" I get the
> following:
> su: cannot run /bin/bash
Did you check that you have the program /bin/bash ?
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From: medelinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Modem on Compaq Armada & Turbo Linux
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:16:08 GMT
I have Turbo Linux 3.0.1 installed on a Compaq Armada 1575DM.
Everything works swell exept for the modem which is a Compaq Armada 1500
Series 560 cl configured at IRQ 3, I/O 02f8, DMA 06. I've been unable
to get it to work. Any pointers out there?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stan Barr)
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Eudora-like mail program for linux? (With Filters etc)
Date: 13 May 1999 17:05:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 11 May 1999 15:41:27 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What programs are there for Linux that handle automatic filtering
>(putting mail in different mailboxes, depending on sender)? Something
>like Eudora for Windows.
>
>The program must have a decent graphical interface. Preferably a program
>that offers a 3-pane view. KDE support is even better.
I wish I had Eudora for Linux as well....I use it on the Macs (uses windows
on the Mac - no crummy panes ;-) )
I use EXMH on this linux box, it's OK, has panes(!) and sorts and filters
mail just fine.
Cheers,
Stan Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefano Ghirlanda)
Subject: nfs directory shows up empty
Date: 13 May 1999 17:08:16 GMT
Hi,
I'm trying to put up some nfs. I don't get any error messages but the
exported directory looks empty on the client. Some more details:
/etc/exports looks like this:
/home/thedir theclienthost(rw)
output from rpcinfo:
# rpcinfo -p
program vers proto port
100000 2 tcp 111 rpcbind
100000 2 udp 111 rpcbind
100005 1 udp 826 mountd
100005 2 udp 826 mountd
100005 1 tcp 829 mountd
100005 2 tcp 829 mountd
100003 2 udp 2049 nfs
100003 2 tcp 2049 nfs
I also see these messages in the logs:
May 13 16:48:59 theserver mountd[12948]: NFS mount of /home/thedir attempted
from [my ip number]
May 13 16:48:59 theserver mountd[12948]: /home/thedir has been mounted by
[my ip number]
But still the directory looks empty on the client... although it is listed
by df:
root> df
Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on
/dev/hda1 694695 571132 87680 87% /
/dev/hda5 852663 391371 417244 48% /home
/dev/hda6 398124 278699 98864 74% /usr/local
theserver:/home/thedir 1139583 661965 418738 61% /mnt/tmp
I have read the NFS HOWTO and the manpages but I didn't find mention of
this proble... does anyone have any advice?
I also have an empty hosts.deny on the server (for the moment). I
correctly get Permission denied errors if I try to mount non-exported
directories.
Thanks a lot,
Stefano
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