Linux-Misc Digest #187, Volume #25 Thu, 20 Jul 00 13:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: How do I restrict user processes on Linux (Perry Pip)
Unwrapping Microsoft's Office Documents in LINUX -- <<??>> (Giovanni Aliberti)
Re: Linuxconf starts in character mode. (Mary P)
Backup Problem ??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
hdparm, tips, tricks and config recommendations wanted ("max barwell")
Re: Changing display modes in text mode (Homer Jay)
Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! (Homer Jay)
Re: problem on startup (Homer Jay)
Re: problem on startup (Dances With Crows)
Re: Backup Problem ??? (Homer Jay)
Re: Changing display modes in text mode (Dances With Crows)
Re: Unwrapping Microsoft's Office Documents in LINUX -- <<??>> (Homer Jay)
Re: Backup Problem ??? (Dances With Crows)
Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! (Tim Haynes)
Re: non-English letters in xterm (Nicolas LS)
Re: Unwrapping Microsoft's Office Documents in LINUX -- <<??>> (Bob Tennent)
PostgreSQL on RedHat 6.1 (Yamar)
Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! (William Burrow)
Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! (Homer Jay)
Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! (Homer Jay)
Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! (Grant Edwards)
Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perry Pip)
Subject: Re: How do I restrict user processes on Linux
Date: 20 Jul 2000 15:12:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 20 Jul 2000 18:01:55 +0800,
TeohST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>On Solaris, one can always specify in /etc/system to limit a user's processes to a
>maxnumber by using statement such as:
>set maxuprc=30.
>
>How to do likewise in Linux Redhat 6.2 ?
With pam. See the docs under /usr/doc/pam-0.72/
You will need to add a line to some files under /etc/pam.d/ and will
then need to configure /etc/security/limits.conf
>
>Also, how does one make sure that all YP client's timestamp is identical as their yp
>server ?
>
>
>Thanks and am grateful for any help.
>ST.
>
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Subject: Unwrapping Microsoft's Office Documents in LINUX -- <<??>>
From: Giovanni Aliberti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 20 Jul 2000 11:21:30 -0400
<<how does a user easily digests 'MS documents' without having
a MS machine on his/her desk ?? >>
Has anyone found << THE OPTIMAL WAY >> to handle Microsoft's Office
emailed documents (mostly Word & Excel) while in Linux
(or other UNIX platforms) ??
We have tried a number of things over time
(such as StarOffice, Applixware and alike, etc, etc.)
... but nothing has really done the trick. (like using a MAC)
We are looking for a <<NATIVE>> (or quasi-native) solution.
For example something that feels at least like when
using a MAC with a browser, which in turn passes the document
to MS word or Excel.
I guess what I am asking is somothing like
opening an X window (from Linux) onto a MS windows environment
and being able to have such an eviroment digest the document.
OR being able to transparently ship the document to a MS environment,
etc.
Yes, it would be OK to have some additional dedicated hardware
(server) that runs MS windows. This is still a lot better then
forcing a lot of people to put MS windows on their desk because
they need to digest few MS documents.
Any pointers appreciated.
Please keep your comments brieft, complex or expensive solutions are
acceptable, as long as they produce 'quality' results.
I'll be happy to summarize back to the list, if interesting results
are found.
vanni [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mary P)
Subject: Re: Linuxconf starts in character mode.
Date: 20 Jul 2000 15:32:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 16:07:22 +0200,
Oswald Knoppers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
(can't get in to linuxconf in X)
>I also installed Mandrake 7.1 on another system. It works fine on that
>one. The difference is that in thes case I chose to start X at boot time
>and on the other system (which usually runs headless) I didn't. This
>might have something to do with it. Maybe the different runlevel...
FWIW I have the same trouble in RH. Linuxconf won't appear in X no
matter what I do, root or ordinary user. I start X from the command
line, not at boot time. I always thought it must be some permissions
thing, but I can't find anything to change.
I'll be waiting to see if somebody has a solution for us!
MP
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important gods."
--Arthur C. Clarke
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Backup Problem ???
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:30:42 GMT
Hi,
Is it possible for me to using the zip command to backup my data
automatically everynight ?
If not , it there any other command can do ???
I want to have a seperate backup file for each date.
*** Note : I want to backup all the data under the
directory /home/abcde .
The output filename i want to have for my zip file will be base on the
date i backup
eg. Today is 7/20/2000, the zip file for my backup data should be
07202000.zip, then tomorrow the filename for my backup file will be
07212000.zip.
I want my computer to do the backup process automatically everyday.
I am currently using the 'at' command to do some other job regularly
but the problem right now for me is i cannot backup my data by leting
the system to create differnt name
The system is always create the same name for the zip file and it will
overwrite the old one if i using the ' at ' command.
Can someone help me to solve this problem ???
Please teach me !
Thank you.
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Before you buy.
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From: "max barwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: hdparm, tips, tricks and config recommendations wanted
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 03:36:53 +1200
Hi, I recently posted about my machine running slowly, thrashing, and
generally bugging out , and one thing I was told was check my HD and
what I got from hdparm -tT, I was told I should get 140+/10+. I get on average
70+/14+ even with no other processes running. I have a maxtor 10GB HD,
5400rpm not sure about DMA and all that but I can find out im sure, its
only 1yr old. Is there any online documentation for good hdparm tuning, or
does anyone have any suggestions, I have read the man pages etc, but still
find it a little confusing.
thanks in advance Max.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Homer Jay)
Subject: Re: Changing display modes in text mode
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:54:49 -0600
On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 21:58:23 +0800, Chew GH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How could I change, eg. from a 80x25 text display to a 80X43 to fit more
>characters onto the screen? If I want to make this change affect all users,
>which files do I edit? What about the other modes? Where could I find them?
>I'm using RH6.1.
You're talking about virtual terminal "text mode", right? (Xterms are
a different matter.) Install SVGATextMode, it does what you want.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Homer Jay)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:58:20 -0600
On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 17:40:52 +1000, Bruce Kennewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>No...he's one of a band of people who believe that Linux will one day become
>the pre-eminent operating system.
>They are a little like Mac owners: very, very devoted to their cause.
>Regards, >Bruce Kennewell, >Canberra, Australia.
I'm nothing like a Mac owner. Those kooks couldn't find their arse
with both hands!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Homer Jay)
Subject: Re: problem on startup
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:59:10 -0600
On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 14:30:03 GMT, Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have an error on startup. It says a required dll file was not found
>pncrt.dll. I have run the windows 98 installation disk and still cannot
>find whatever this is. Everything runs fine but I want to find what is
>causeing this error everytime I turn on my computer. Would appreciate any
>help. Thanks Andrea
Very funny. This is a linux NG. Go play in the windoze NGs.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: problem on startup
Date: 20 Jul 2000 16:05:31 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 14:30:03 GMT, Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have an error on startup. It says a required dll file was not found
>pncrt.dll. I have run the windows 98 installation disk and still cannot
>find whatever this is. Everything runs fine but I want to find what is
>causeing this error everytime I turn on my computer. Would appreciate any
>help.
Yep, common problem. Easiest solution comes from this company called
"Mandrake"--they sell a nice boxed set (the ultimate Windows Service
Pack) that has a penguin on the front. Get that boxed set, then boot
from the first CD and follow the on-screen instructions. You'll never
have any problems with Windows again!
(Free clue: Take a look at the name of the newsgroup you posted to,
and think before you post next time.)
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Frustration is annoying, but the *real* disasters in life begin when you
get exactly what you want.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Homer Jay)
Subject: Re: Backup Problem ???
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:05:57 -0600
On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:30:42 GMT, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is it possible for me to using the zip command to backup my data
>automatically everynight ?
zip? Is he a friend of _Zippy the Pinhead_? Use tar.
>I want to have a seperate backup file for each date.
Use the --listed-incremental option with tar. See ``man tar''.
>*** Note : I want to backup all the data under the
>directory /home/abcde .
Use the --create option with tar
>The output filename i want to have for my zip file will be base on the
>date i backup
filename=`date +%m%d%y`.zip
>I want my computer to do the backup process automatically everyday.
Use a shell script with cron. See ``man cron''. Buy yourself a book on
UNIX/Linux for more info.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Changing display modes in text mode
Date: 20 Jul 2000 16:15:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 21:58:23 +0800, Chew GH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How could I change, eg. from a 80x25 text display to a 80X43 to fit more
>characters onto the screen? If I want to make this change affect all users,
>which files do I edit? What about the other modes? Where could I find them?
>I'm using RH6.1.
This is usually set at boot time. If you want 80x43, you can edit
/etc/lilo.conf so it has the line "vga=5" somewhere before the first
image= line. Re-run lilo, reboot. SVGAtextmode has been unmaintained
for a long time and the last time I tried to use it, it f***ed up the
virtual consoles something terrible. If you wish to see the other
modes, put "vga=ask" in /etc/lilo.conf instead. If you want even more
options, compile your kernel with framebuffer support and read
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt .
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
"We should have a policy against using personal resources for company
business." "The Company didn't pay for these pants, so I'm taking them
off at the door!" --J. Moore and A. DeBoer, the Monastery
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Homer Jay)
Subject: Re: Unwrapping Microsoft's Office Documents in LINUX -- <<??>>
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:16:11 -0600
On 20 Jul 2000 11:21:30 -0400, Giovanni Aliberti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
><<how does a user easily digests 'MS documents' without having
> a MS machine on his/her desk ?? >>
First, chew thoroughly. Then, be ready with the stomach pump when the
foetid retching begins.
>Has anyone found << THE OPTIMAL WAY >> to handle Microsoft's Office[...]
>We have tried a number of things over time(such as StarOffice, Applixware
>[...]... but nothing has really done the trick. (like using a MAC)
Well, then use a Mac for crying out loud! Or try Abiword, but you sound
like a whiner so use the Mac.
>We are looking for a <<NATIVE>> (or quasi-native) solution.
>For example something that feels at least like when
>using a MAC with a browser, which in turn passes the document
>to MS word or Excel.
What the f**k are <<THESE>> for? Worried I'll skip some words? Native?
You want an email client where you can click on an attachment icon and
it'll open, <<drumroll please>>, a word-like application, right? Try
netscape properly configured. Go to NS Edit/Prefs. and setup the
helper applications. <<This is what you want.>>
>I guess what I am asking is somothing like
>opening an X window (from Linux) onto a MS windows environment
>and being able to have such an eviroment digest the document.
>OR being able to transparently ship the document to a MS environment,
I think Blackbox has a mode or application that'll use MacOS icons.
Then you can have it look like a Mac.
>Yes, it would be OK to have some additional dedicated hardware
>(server) that runs MS windows. This is still a lot better then
>forcing a lot of people to put MS windows on their desk because
>they need to digest few MS documents.
>Any pointers appreciated.
Take a broomstick. Touch forehead to tip of stick. Spin slowly around
the broomstick. Stop when nausea overwhelms.
>Please keep your comments brieft, complex or expensive solutions are
>acceptable, as long as they produce 'quality' results.
>I'll be happy to summarize back to the list, if interesting results
>are found.
>vanni [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Not making them any smarter over there, eh?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Backup Problem ???
Date: 20 Jul 2000 16:23:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:30:42 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is it possible for me to using the zip command to backup my data
>automatically everynight ?
>If not , it there any other command can do ???
Not "zip" per se, but "tar" can do the right thing.
>I want to have a seperate backup file for each date.
>The output filename i want to have for my zip file will be base on the
>date i backup
>I want my computer to do the backup process automatically everyday.
You should get a good book on Unix and/or Linux general usage. _Running
Linux_ (part of the O'Reilly stable of computer books) addresses
questions like this, and indeed every book on Unix basics should cover
this.
Run the following from cron ("man crontab") every night at about 1 am or
so:
tar czf `date "+%d%m%Y"`.tar.gz /home/abcde
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Matt G|There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Love is a snowmobile racing across the Arctic tundra that suddenly flips
over, pinning you underneath. At night, the Ice Weasels come. --Matt
Groening, "Love Is Hell"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Haynes)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: 20 Jul 2000 17:23:46 +0100
Reply-To: "Tim Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Homer Jay) writes:
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 17:40:52 +1000, Bruce Kennewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >No...he's one of a band of people who believe that Linux will one day become
> >the pre-eminent operating system.
> >They are a little like Mac owners: very, very devoted to their cause.
> >Regards, >Bruce Kennewell, >Canberra, Australia.
>
> I'm nothing like a Mac owner. Those kooks couldn't find their arse
> with both hands!
What about those who run linux on Macs? ;8)
~Tim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nicolas LS)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: non-English letters in xterm
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 16:30:02 GMT
Le 20 Jul 2000 11:17:29 +0200, Stefano Ghirlanda a ecrit :
>I know have the ��� keys on thekeyboard working directly, so I don't need
>any other key. But I do get alt + d = � in the shell, which I would like to
alt and no altrgr ou maybe ctrl d
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: Unwrapping Microsoft's Office Documents in LINUX -- <<??>>
Date: 20 Jul 2000 16:21:01 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 20 Jul 2000 11:21:30 -0400, Giovanni Aliberti wrote:
>
>I guess what I am asking is somothing like
>opening an X window (from Linux) onto a MS windows environment
>and being able to have such an eviroment digest the document.
>OR being able to transparently ship the document to a MS environment,
>etc.
>
>Yes, it would be OK to have some additional dedicated hardware
>(server) that runs MS windows. This is still a lot better then
>forcing a lot of people to put MS windows on their desk because
>they need to digest few MS documents.
I'm assuming you're in a networked environment. Put a Windows box
on the network and install VNC on it. Install VNC clients
on the Linux boxes. Use Samba or FTP to transfer files.
http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc
Bob T.
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From: Yamar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PostgreSQL on RedHat 6.1
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 16:20:38 GMT
All, I am looking for any information on the PostgreSQL package that can
be installed with RedHat 6.1. I am having trouble finding certian files
and was curious if there was any information on RedHat 6.1 specific
PostgreSQL ? Thanks
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: 20 Jul 2000 16:27:52 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:58:20 -0600,
Homer Jay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 17:40:52 +1000, Bruce Kennewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>No...he's one of a band of people who believe that Linux will one day become
>>the pre-eminent operating system.
>>They are a little like Mac owners: very, very devoted to their cause.
>
>I'm nothing like a Mac owner. Those kooks couldn't find their arse
>with both hands!
With Pentium crushing dual G4 machines like Apple will soon be releasing
(in August, I believe), there may well be a few Linux people become Mac
owners. Running Linux on PPC, of course.
http://www.apple.com
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 2000 William Burrow ~ /\
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Homer Jay)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:34:51 -0600
On 20 Jul 2000 17:23:46 +0100, Tim Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Homer Jay) writes:
>
>> On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 17:40:52 +1000, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >No...he's one of a band of people who believe that Linux will one day become
>> >the pre-eminent operating system.
>> >They are a little like Mac owners: very, very devoted to their cause.
>> >Regards, >Bruce Kennewell, >Canberra, Australia.
>>
>> I'm nothing like a Mac owner. Those kooks couldn't find their arse
>> with both hands!
>
>What about those who run linux on Macs? ;8) >~Tim
Well, *maybe* if they run linux most of the time. Maybe. But why bother?
There's more and better hardware support on i386. Macs cost more for the
same performance that can be had for less with Alpha, Intel, AMD, etc.
Therefore: mac owner=kook with a "*dreamy* blueberry" computer case. Oh,
the flames I'm going to get.... ;)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Homer Jay)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:40:50 -0600
On 20 Jul 2000 16:27:52 GMT, William Burrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>With Pentium crushing dual G4 machines like Apple will soon be releasing
>(in August, I believe), there may well be a few Linux people become Mac
>owners. Running Linux on PPC, of course.
>http://www.apple.com
Since "Pentium [is] crushing dual G4 machines", I would think that no
one would be buying an apple. And, don't you think people can locate
the Apple Computer Corporatation, Inc. (Tool of Evil) site themselves?
But seriously, they could buy one of those PPC boxes from IBM, right?
But, then they wouldn't get that cooool logo and creamy dream vanilla
case.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 16:56:08 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Homer Jay wrote:
>On 20 Jul 2000 17:23:46 +0100, Tim Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Homer Jay) writes:
>>
>>> On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 17:40:52 +1000, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> >No...he's one of a band of people who believe that Linux will one day become
>>> >the pre-eminent operating system.
>>> >They are a little like Mac owners: very, very devoted to their cause.
>>> >Regards, >Bruce Kennewell, >Canberra, Australia.
>>>
>>> I'm nothing like a Mac owner. Those kooks couldn't find their arse
>>> with both hands!
>>
>>What about those who run linux on Macs? ;8) >~Tim
>
>Well, *maybe* if they run linux most of the time. Maybe. But why bother?
>There's more and better hardware support on i386. Macs cost more for the
>same performance that can be had for less with Alpha, Intel, AMD, etc.
>Therefore: mac owner=kook with a "*dreamy* blueberry" computer case. Oh,
>the flames I'm going to get.... ;)
It's easy (or so I've read) to run MacOS apps under Linux on a
Mac. That gives Linux/Mac users access to some pretty decent
apps.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! I had a lease on an
at OEDIPUS COMPLEX back in
visi.com '81...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:43:42 +0100
In comp.os.linux.misc Ashley McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bruce,
> I would watch yourself, they are very devoted...some of them are nuts!
Nahhh. Compared to M$ users, we're the sane ones...
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