Linux-Misc Digest #222, Volume #20               Sun, 16 May 99 02:13:16 EDT

Contents:
  Can an Oracle network computer connect to Linux server? (Sean OC)
  Re: 'Find'. what a strange command (Enkidu)
  internet ("Saravanan Govindasamy")
  Re: making linux go away ("Cameron Spitzer")
  Re: Debian: still viable? ("Cameron Spitzer")
  Re: Debian: still viable? (Gene Wilburn)
  Re: [?] problem w/ TeX under RH 6.0 (James Youngman)
  Re: Logger and syslog (Juergen Heinzl)
  Re: printing problem (Brandon)
  LILO docs in PDF, Re: Need help setting up system. ("Cameron Spitzer")
  Re: In defence of UNIX man pages (Enkidu)
  Re: In defence of UNIX man pages (Scott Smith)
  Re: 128 -bit SSL (Sylvain Lapierre)
  can't send email through qmail (Kelvin Leung)
  Re: Odd problem with mpg123 (Mengmeng Zhang)
  can't open /dev/mixer on vanilla RH 6.0 ("Kerry J. Cox")
  Re: SECURITY ISSUES: Single user restriction at lilo boot: ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Sony Vaio (Linus Torvalds)
  Upgrade or reinstall? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Odd problem with mpg123 (Chris Wilson)
  Re: USB Support (Jim Hill)
  Re: Sony Vaio ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Real Audio does not work.  Why? (Chris Wilson)
  Re: Odd problem with mpg123 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Non-Destructive ext2 repartitioning (Howard Mann)

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From: Sean OC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.net-computer.misc
Subject: Can an Oracle network computer connect to Linux server?
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 16:09:18 GMT

Hello,
    I have inherited a couple of Oracle nc's. The Oracle server is
toasted. I have a Redhat Linux 2.0.36 server (upgrading to 2.2.x soon).
Does anyone know enough to tell me if it is worth my time to try to get
these two nc's to connect to my Linux server? They have 'smart cards'
which act as logon/security. I would guess that this would be the
biggest hurdle.

    I admittedly know less than I should about the nc's. I imaging they
have some sort of proprietary boot prom in connection with the smart
card. I'm not looking for a detailed how-to, just whether I am way off
base in wanting to do this, or somewhere in the vicinity of the right
ballpark.
TIA

SoC

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- there are no numbers in my email address --



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From: Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 'Find'. what a strange command
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:06:30 +1200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bill Unruh wrote:
> 
> Uuurgle.
>
[cliffy@inanna cliffy]$ Uuurgle
bash: Uuurgle: command not found

Eh??

Cliff
-- 
Cliff Pratt, CAP Consulting
Web build, web design. HTML, Javascript, CGI, ASP, Web Consulting
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Phone: 025 246 7747

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From: "Saravanan Govindasamy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,jaring.pcbase,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: internet
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 10:10:02 +0800

How do i get connected on the internet thru Linux? I tried the PPP dialup
utility.
My modem dials up and gets connected, a few seconds and then disconnects
with the error message "The pppd daemon died Unexpectedly".

Sara....








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From: "Cameron Spitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: making linux go away
Date: 16 May 1999 03:30:05 GMT

In article <7hlcg2$5d3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Chris Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>>
>>I hate to tell you this Chris but only very small companies run a
>>Linux only enviroment, big companies tend to run Solaris and even
>>bigger ones will go for AIX. Depending on their need and what they can
>>afford. And I find it very hard to belive that there are Unix only
>>places.
>
>Who cares what you belive?

I believe www.yahoo.com runs on FreeBSD and www.dejanews.com runs on Linux.
They're pretty big.
Oh, and {www,ftp}.cdrom.com claims to be the busiest single FTP server
in the world, and it's on FreeBSD.  (My favorite place to download Linux!
I'm always user #3499 out of 3500; how do they do that?)

Cameron


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From: "Cameron Spitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Debian: still viable?
Date: 16 May 1999 04:01:13 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Gene Wilburn  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Additional comments from experienced Debian users would be highly
>appreciated.

All of the Linux distroes are sorely in need of usability testing.
I'd be surprised to learn that Red Hat or anybody else ever goes
to the trouble of putting the packaged product and a fresh
PC in front of a psychology student or Kelly temp and ask them
to install it.  These products would gain considerable polish
from recording and examining the resulting disasters.

But Debian is particularly bad in that regard, as there are combinations
of packages that simply will not work together.
NIS + Shadow passwords = system won't boot.
xinetd never has worked, what's it still doing in there? 
dwww finds less and less info each time, though it was a good idea.
I guess usability is no fun, or people would do it.

Cameron

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From: Gene Wilburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Debian: still viable?
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 03:31:05 GMT

Since starting this thread I've installed Debian 2.0 several times,
using a CD from the InfoMagic set. I have the 4-CD Debian 2.1 on its way
up from Cheapbytes and will be trying it out as soon as it arrives.

Here are my initial reactions to 2.0 (my context is solid familiarity
with Red Hat, SuSE and Slack):

1. Debian is a logical installation, from a techie point of view, but
not a nice installation. Far too many questions come up at random points
in the installation, meaning that you can't walk away from it and let it
finish its very lengthy waltz across the entire CD. You never know when
the next question is going to pause the installation.

2. I really like the questions that come up after the base system is in:
root password, option to create a user, option to create shadow
passwords, option to ditch pcmcia support. Very well done.

3. My favorite way to install is to create the minimal system needed,
reboot and check the basics, then build up to other things, rather than
throw the kitchen sink at it a la Red Hat and SuSE. This works in Debian
.. BUT .. in 2.0 at least the way to install the rest is with dselect.
Pardon me if you're a dselect fan, but this is absolutely one of the
worst programs I've ever encountered. To use the vernacular: it sucks.
Has this been replaced with anything nicer in 2.1? I'd rather get the
set of pre-rolled packages that were on the installation disc than have
to deal with the endless screens and confusing interface of dselect.

4. Debian has a really solid feel and reminds me more of FreeBSD (one of
my favorite OS's) than any of the other Linux distros.

5. Figuring out how to adjust X in Debian post-installation is
non-intuitive even for someone who has adjusted this in other distros. I
mistakenly selected the wrong interface (AfterStep) during installation
and couldn't return it to FVWM2 permanently. There is no .Xdefaults or
.xinitrc files created in user directories. Is this a completely
roll-your-own prospect? Doesn't have to be this hard.

6. I experienced many CD-ROM drive failures trying to install packages
(IRQ resets, failures to complete installation on various packages).
This also happened with Slackware from the same InfoMagic set. My CD-ROM
has given me no previous trouble installing Red Hat, SuSE, or Solaris
i386. I suspect that I'm experiencing serious quality control problems
from InfoMagic. There are a lot of scuff marks on the business side of
the discs. This happened to me once before with InfoMagic stuff. May be
a fluke I got two bad shipments, but I will no longer purchase anything
from InfoMagic.

7. I like the Debian philosophy and hope I can get over the up-front
hurdles. This appears to be one of the finest distros I've tried, but it
has some vexing rough edges. Again, I'm experimenting with 2.0 and some
of this may have already been cleaned up in 2.1.

Additional comments from experienced Debian users would be highly
appreciated.

Gene

===================================================================
Gene Wilburn, Northern Journey Online, http://www.interlog.com/~njo
===================================================================

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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: [?] problem w/ TeX under RH 6.0
Date: 15 May 1999 18:22:10 +0100

Francisco Cribari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have just upgraded from Red Hat 5.2 to version 6.0 (intel). I am
> having a few problems. One of them is that I can no longer compile 
> a number of TeX files. Here is what happens (e.g.):
> 
> [cribari@edgeworth texfiles]$ pwd
> /home/cribari/projects/white/texfiles
> [cribari@edgeworth texfiles]$ tex white
> This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.3)
> (white.tex (/usr/share/texmf/tex/plain/misc/psfig.tex
> psfig/tex 1.9
> ) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/plain/misc/17point.tex
> (/usr/share/texmf/tex/plain/misc/10point.tex)kpathsea: Running mktextfm  cmr17
> mktextfm: Running mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input cmr17
> This is METAFONT, Version 2.7182 (Web2C 7.3)
> 
> (/usr/share/texmf/fonts/source/jknappen/sauter/cmr17.mf
> (/usr/share/texmf/fonts/source/jknappen/sauter/b-cmr.mfkpathsea: Running mktexmf  
>cmbase
> 
> ! I can't find file `cmbase'.
> l.2 if unknown cmbase: input cmbase

Run texhash.  See the Red Hat bugs database.

-- 
ACTUALLY reachable as @free-lunch.demon.(whitehouse)co.uk:james+usenet

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Logger and syslog
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 03:04:59 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, echico wrote:
>please do not send me any more messages.  I don't know how I got on this list to
>receive.
>Thank you

You're welcome ... although even my smail logs tell me I did not
send you a message ...

Spurious,
Juergen

-- 
\ Real name     : J�rgen Heinzl                 \       no flames      /
 \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 00:16:43 -0400
From: Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: printing problem

Edouard Oyer wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> I really need your help on that one. I am in despair of doing anything.
> I already went through the printing HOWTO and things are not the way
> they should be.
> I am trying to print on a printer that is on a netwrk. The way I am
> accessing is through an IP number.
> I am able to print when I am logged as root. I can't otherwise. The
> message I get is
> "lpr: connect: permission denied.
> Jobs queued, but cannot start daemon."
> The printing HOWTO says it is generally due to a bad network
> configuration. In that case how can I be able to print when being root?
> I am loosing my last hair.
> Thanks for your help,
> 

im just taking a wild guess here, literaly, but are the permisions for
lpr set so that it can be used/accessed as a normal user?


Brandon
-- 
                              

"Bill Gates?, I dont know any Bill Gates.  Oh, you mean 'by putting
every conceivable 
 feature into an OPERATING SYSTEM, whether you want it or not, is
innovation' Bill 
 Gates? Yeah, I know the monopolizer"
                
                  http://web.mountain.net/~brandon/main.htm
     For Beginners in Linux, Emulation, Midis, Playstation Info, Virii

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From: "Cameron Spitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO docs in PDF, Re: Need help setting up system.
Date: 16 May 1999 03:21:08 GMT

In article <7hlabe$n6d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
theoddone33 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Thanks, I have a feeling those HOWTOs are just what I needed.
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
><7hlblm$n5o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>> You might want to take a look at the LILO mini-howto at
>>http://www.linux-howto.com/ptHOWTO/mini/LILO

but then you might get annoyed because it's so OLD!  So,
help me revise it!  Post your favorite Recurring LILO Question,
and/or the answer, at
http://judi.greens.org/lilo/.
We'll get a FAQ together on this thing.
Free bonus, all available LILO docs in PDF!

Cameron

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From: Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: In defence of UNIX man pages
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:14:43 +1200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Matt wrote:
> 
> Our task is to criticise the UNIX man pages and rewrite our
> selected man page topics for a novice user.
>
Man pages are not intended for the novice. Man pages are MANUAL
PAGES and intended as reference aids. What the novice user needs
is HELP PAGES or HOW TO pages. (Though Unix How-Tos are Technical
How-Tos. As such a proliferation of examples in the Man Pages
should be deplored, though a few are acceptable.

User Help Pages should have lots of examples, and should
concetrate on a few well-used options.

Cliff
-- 
Cliff Pratt, CAP Consulting
Web build, web design. HTML, Javascript, CGI, ASP, Web Consulting
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Phone: 025 246 7747

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Smith)
Subject: Re: In defence of UNIX man pages
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:05:28 GMT

On Fri, 14 May 1999 09:58:00 +0930, Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It is because of a strong swing to graphical operating systems that the UNIX
>man pages are both unfamiliar and difficult for novice users to understand,
>not because they were poorly written."

I'm not an expert, but I'll comment.

I don't think the trouble is caused by users coming from a GUI, but
from users having poor reading abilities. Perhaps GUIs don't encourage
good reading skills. But many man pages are pretty clear, provided you
are willing to read carefully and look up cross-references.

One of the biggest irritations is users who refuse to read. There is a
quote on a tech support humor page that goes like this:

      "I just spent $2000 on my computer! I don't see why I should have
        to read some documentation!!"

-- 
Scott Lacy Smith  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
                                              Student of Computer Science
   "Nullus Anxietas"                          Denton, Texas, US
                                              The University of North Texas

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From: Sylvain Lapierre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: netscape.public.mozilla.crypto,netscape.public.mozilla.general
Subject: Re: 128 -bit SSL
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 00:17:13 -0400

Robert C. Paulsen, Jr. a �crit:
> 
> Ralph Blach wrote:
> >
> > I am using Linux with netscape 4.07.  I tried to connect to a website
> > and I got the message
> >
> > This Server requires 128 -bit SSL. Please contact your Local LAN
> 
> Note that there is something called "fortify" that can upgrade a 40-bit
> Netscape (what you have) to the 128-bit Netscape. I have never used it,
> but if you can find it it will probably be a much smaller download (if
> that makes a difference to you).

http://www.fortify.net

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From: Kelvin Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: can't send email through qmail
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:43:22 GMT

Hello,

I have a qmail setup in my RH 5.1 system. It is connected to internet
through cable modem. I have PC clients connected to this server which
use Netscape as email client. But the PC client cannot send email
outside the local network. Any email going outside of this local network
will get the following error message:

The mail server responded:
sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)
Please check the message recipients and try again.

And I have execute the qmail-showctl, with the following setting shown:

============================================================
[root@MYHOSTNAME qmail-1.03]# qmail-showctl
qmail home directory: /var/qmail.
user-ext delimiter: -.
paternalism (in decimal): 2.
silent concurrency limit: 120.
subdirectory split: 23.
user ids: 80, 81, 82, 0, 83, 84, 85, 86.
group ids: 80, 81.

badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed.

bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON.

bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is MYHOSTNAME.MYDOMAIN.

concurrencylocal: (Default.) Local concurrency is 10.

concurrencyremote: (Default.) Remote concurrency is 20.

databytes: (Default.) SMTP DATA limit is 0 bytes.

defaultdomain: Default domain name is MYDOMAIN.

defaulthost: (Default.) Default host name is MYHOSTNAME.MYDOMAIN.

doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: MYHOSTNAME.MYDOMAIN.

doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster.

envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is MYHOSTNAME.MYDOMAIN.

helohost: (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is MYHOSTNAME.MYDOMAIN.
idhost: (Default.) Message-ID host name is MYHOSTNAME.MYDOMAIN.

localiphost: (Default.) Local IP address becomes MYHOSTNAME.MYDOMAIN.

locals:
Messages for localhost are delivered locally.
Messages for MYHOSTNAME.MYDOMAIN are delivered locally.

me: My name is MYHOSTNAME.MYDOMAIN.

percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed.q

plusdomain: Plus domain name is home.com.

qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers.

queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in the queue is 604800
seconds.

rcpthosts:
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at localhost.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at MYHOSTNAME.MYDOMAIN.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at k166.MYDOMAIN.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at k166.localdomain.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at pm7300.MYDOMAIN.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at pm7300.localdomain.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at k166.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at pm7300.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at wonderland.dns.org.

morercpthosts: (Default.) No effect.

morercpthosts.cdb: (Default.) No effect.

smtpgreeting: (Default.) SMTP greeting: 220 MYHOSTNAME.MYDOMAIN.

smtproutes: (Default.) No artificial SMTP routes.

timeoutconnect: (Default.) SMTP client connection timeout is 60 seconds.

timeoutremote: (Default.) SMTP client data timeout is 1200 seconds.

timeoutsmtpd: (Default.) SMTP server data timeout is 1200 seconds.

virtualdomains: (Default.) No virtual domains.
[root@MYHOSTNAME qmail-1.03]#

===========================================================

Please help... thanks.

Kelvin


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From: Mengmeng Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Odd problem with mpg123
Date: 15 May 1999 23:57:10 -0500

In comp.os.linux.misc Chris Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dammit, actually, the thing is just unpredictable.  I've come to find out that
> even what I've written below is incorrect.  Sometimes it WILL fail to play a
> track, even if if I don't hit control-C.

Hrm... I don't have this problem on my system. What version of mpg123 do
you have? Is it from an rpm? You might want to compile it yourself, since
there may be library compatibility problems.

> This wouldn't be so frustrating if I was able to get Real Audio to work on my
> system.

Why doesn't Real Audio work? Since you're running RH 6.0, I assume you have
a Linux 2.2.x kernel. rvplayer exploits a bug in the 2.0.x kernels, so it
won't work as is with 2.2.x kernels. You need to get a patch so that it
will work. Check out /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes. There should
be a section about it in there which tells you what to do.

HTH,
MZhang
-- 
We'll meet meet again
Don't know where
Don't know when
But I know we'll meet again some sunny day. -- Dr. Strangelove

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From: "Kerry J. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: can't open /dev/mixer on vanilla RH 6.0
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 23:00:18 -0600

I keep getting the warning message, "can't open /dev/mixer" on a vanilla
install of RH 6.0.  Any way to get around this?  I also get a similar
error and it says " can't open /dev/dsp" when I try to run my gqmpeg or
MP3 player.
I have tried my hand at recompiling the 2.2.x kernel a couple times, but
haven't had much success.  I figured this might be an option.  But I'm
sure there's another way.   I had it working great under 2.0.36 but that
what as kernel I compiled myself.
If anyone has a nice set of step-by-step instructions they used when
compiling the latest 2.2.9 or below kernel, I'd like to give a whack at
it,
Thanks.
KJ


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: SECURITY ISSUES: Single user restriction at lilo boot:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 05:06:46 GMT

According to  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I know that booting from floppy as single user and mounting the root
> disk can be used to rescue a system with a forgotten root password. I'm
> also aware that this is a part of any unix system.

The only way to get arround this problem is to enable the CMOS
password on the machine so that the machine will not boot w/o the
password.  Just about all BIOSs these days seem to support the
feature.  Yes, it will really suck when Joe User power cycles the
machine (or course we know Linux never crashes...) and you need to
send someone out to key in the password.

Be aware that it is not completely secure because (1) nvram can
usually be cleared by setting a jumper on the motherboard and (2) the
disk with the password can always be removed and mounted somewhere
else.

Of course, this is *not* a solution to your *real* problem...

> This poses a problem because we plan to depoly some PCs with linux in
> our computer labs and have /home nfs mounted. Given the lack of security
> that nfs presents, this posses great problems because a user who has
> gained root access can su to any user in the domain.  since most of our
> UNIX systems are setup this way, the /home directory has to be nfs
> mounted.

I think you need to read a little more about NFS configuration,
particularly the section on root exports.  ;-) If you configure things
properly on your server and you have applied all your NFS security
patches, you will be reasonably secure.

It is a good idea to enforce strict host security on your lab
machines, but you should by no means depend on it in your security
model.  After all, it is a trivial matter for someone to pop a Linux
laptop onto the ethernet segment.  ;-)

-p.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Torvalds)
Subject: Re: Sony Vaio
Date: 16 May 1999 05:08:12 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
siz  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anyone use Linux under Sony Vaio's? I'm looking to get one. Any info on the web
>on this?

Well, I have one. I don't use it that much, but when I travel I love
having something really small.

Good engineering from what I can tell: I haven't had any problems except
for the fact that it's one of the harder machines to get Linux installed
on (it's not that hard, but it requires knowing the right tricks). 

The USB support is coming, but right now the floppy is not usable (it's
a USB one).  Give that another few months.  And on the VAIO-PCG (the one
with the built-in camera: that's the one I have), the camera is behind a
unsupported firewire thing.  Oh, well. 

So there are ups and downs, but I sure love the formfactor, and it's a
reasonable computer.

                Linus

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Upgrade or reinstall?
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 05:11:31 GMT

Hello I have SuSE Linux 5.2 on my system.
This has kernel 2.0.33.

I recently bought SuSE Linux 6.1 that has
kernel 2.2.(something).

I don't have much stuff, relatively on my
Linux system and I want to know whether it
is easier to archive my stuff, and reinstall
Linux 6.1

or

if it is easier to upgrade from 5.2 to 6.1?

Thanks for any advice.

-Godfrey Degamo


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Wilson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Odd problem with mpg123
Date: 16 May 1999 05:21:32 GMT

Mengmeng Zhang wrote:
>Hrm... I don't have this problem on my system. What version of mpg123 do
>you have? Is it from an rpm? You might want to compile it yourself, since
>there may be library compatibility problems.
>
>> This wouldn't be so frustrating if I was able to get Real Audio to work on my
>> system.
>
>Why doesn't Real Audio work? Since you're running RH 6.0, I assume you have
>a Linux 2.2.x kernel. rvplayer exploits a bug in the 2.0.x kernels, so it
>won't work as is with 2.2.x kernels. You need to get a patch so that it
>will work. Check out /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes. There should
>be a section about it in there which tells you what to do.

I posted an article about this earlier, and somebody forwarded me information
about the patch.  Real Audio works now, but something about the way it works
has led me to believe that there is not a problem with mpg123, but with
some other part of my system.  See, after I patched Real Audio, it no longer
gave me errors, but short little blips as output, JUST AS mpg123 has been
giving me.  I figured that because mpg123 had already stopped working for that
session, maybe Real Audio would work if I rebooted the system.  Sure enough,
it did.  Then I played tracks on mpg123 for awhile until it stopped working,
and then tried to play Real Audio again.  Sure enough, it too has stopped
working and probably will not work again until I reboot the system.
Apparently, there is a problem with my sound configuration (although I have no
clue what it could be).

--Chris


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Hill)
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: USB Support
Date: 14 May 1999 00:58:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In <7hf57t$i91$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What does minimal mean?
>Is it realistically unworkable but a public beta?
>
>Surely it couldn't be that situation since that is one of the fundamental
>criticisms of MS ;-)

Actually, the _fundamental_ criticism is not that Microsoft releases
public betas but that they (a) charge for it and (b) never quite seem to
get to the real, debugged, working release.


Jim
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                      http://www.swcp.com/~jimhill/

   "People have grown used to thinking of computers as unreliable, 
       and it doesn't have to be that way."  --  Linus Torvalds

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Subject: Re: Sony Vaio
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 05:20:43 GMT

According to Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>    And on the VAIO-PCG (the one
> with the built-in camera: that's the one I have), the camera is behind a
> unsupported firewire thing.  Oh, well. 

Lucky bugger.  I suppose starting this whole Linux thing does have
it's advantages.  I've been lusting after one of those itty-bitties
myself, and it's nice to know that they should see a fairly good level
of support.  ;-)

-p.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Wilson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Real Audio does not work.  Why?
Date: 16 May 1999 05:23:31 GMT

Somebody finally forwarded me information about a patch.  Nevermind.

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Odd problem with mpg123
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 05:11:08 GMT

According to Chris Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> The application mpg123 plays tracks fine, but only until I stop the player.
> After the player stops, I can't restart it until I reboot the system.  It
> doesn't give me an error message -- the application actually indicates that
> it's playing the track, although it isn't.  No sound is coming out.  And I
> know that my volume is high enough because I got sound before stopping the
> application.

I assume that you are stopping the player with control-c?  If that is
the case, my guess is that the sound port is not getting closed properly.

> I'm running the RH6.0 distribution of Linux, in case it matters.

I've been doing this for several weeks on my RH 6.0 system w/o any
problems, so my *guess* is that there is a cleanup problem somewhere
is whatever sound driver you are using.  You should probablypass this
onto the apropriate module maintainers and see what they say...

-p.


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From: Howard Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Non-Destructive ext2 repartitioning
Date: 16 May 1999 05:26:42 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello,
> 
> Does anyone know if it is possible
> to repartition ext2 on the fly?  I
> would like to add a new partition
> and shrink my current partition to
> make room without losing my data.
> Any suggestions would be much
> appreciated...

Partition Magic 4.0

Cheers,

-- 
Howard Mann
http://www.newbielinux.com   
(a LINUX website for newbies)
Smart Linuxers search at: http://www.deja.com/home_ps.shtml


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