Linux-Misc Digest #222, Volume #21 Fri, 30 Jul 99 13:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: Magic SysRq (was Re: Linux has finally crashed) (Philip W. Darnowsky)
Re: Wordperfect; danish support?? (Rod Smith)
Re: kppp setup solution! ("W. Christopher Everhart")
Ghost Pro (JM)
Buy vs Download Difference: Documentation Only? ("Ahmad S. Ammar")
Re: Magic SysRq (was Re: Linux has finally crashed) (William Burrow)
Re: Stupid Question About Log Files ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: AWE64 and 2.2.5? (David L. Bilbey)
Re: LILO and NT40 (Robert Wiegand)
Re: CIA assassinations (Phillip Lord)
Re: Magic SysRq (was Re: Linux has finally crashed) ("Stuart MacDonald")
Power off on shutdown (BIOS problem?) (Ciprian Toader)
Re: Linux has finally crashed (Randall Parker)
3dfx voodoo banshee (John Burg)
Re: RAID1 Questions (Greg Leblanc)
Where to get SuperFormat? ("Alex Abreu")
Re: What I think of linux. (Tim Hanson)
Re: What I think of linux. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: CIA assassinations (Randall Parker)
Re: CIA assassinations (Randall Parker)
Re: CIA assassinations ("A.T.Z.")
Re: A Redhat 6.0 Perl DBI to Mysql Question (warmongr)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip W. Darnowsky)
Subject: Re: Magic SysRq (was Re: Linux has finally crashed)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:05:13 GMT
Daniel Robert Franklin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip W. Darnowsky) writes:
: >> What exactly does the Magic SysRq do? I remember looking at the option
: >> when I last configured my kernel, and thinking that someone had actually
: >> found a use for the SysRq key, but I didn't actually compile it in.
: >>
: >> And in general, does anyone have a URL for a history of the SysRq key?
: >no URL for it, but linux/Documentation/sysrq.txt explains it in fair
: >detail. basically, it's a series of hot-key combos, caught directly by the
: >kernel, for performing a few emergency actions - things like flushing the
: >disks, remounting them read-only, or rebooting.
: Yeah. Magic-SysRq rocks. I have had several instances where my X-server
: screws up, and I was able to alt-sysrq-s,u,b - no problems on reboot. A
: life-saver when you have no network connection.
This does sound pretty cool, but what I wanted to know was if anyone knew
what the *original* use of SysRq was and how it got onto the keyboard on
the first place. Even scroll lock I understand (and use), but SysRq? Who
knows? What happens if, for instance, you hit SysRq on a Windoze box? Or
on this O2 I'm on? Let's find out. Not much, apparently.
--
====================================================
Phil Darnowsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Remove spam, eggs, bacon, spam, and dot to reply.
The human brain is a remarkable organ: it begins
working the moment you wake up, and does not stop
until you get to the office.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Wordperfect; danish support??
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:26:40 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Igor Gorbounov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> So there should be a manual somewhere. With the downloaded version comes no
> docs.
> May be someone knows where one can get any WP manuals from?
My book on WordPerfect 8 for Linux should be available any day now.
Here's a URL if you'd like to order it direct from Amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789720329/roderwsmithshome
I know that Amazon does international orders, but I didn't see any
information specifically on Russia, so I don't know what that would cost
you. You might also be able to get it from a local book importer.
The book itself is in English, and I don't know of any plans to translate
it.
I recall somebody posting a URL once to a PDF file that contains
more-or-less the same material as in the printed manual that comes with
the retail version, but I might be mistaken, and I don't have that URL
stored anywhere, I'm afraid. You might turn it up in a Deja News search,
though.
--
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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NOTE: Remove the "uce" word from my address to mail me
Author of _Special Edition Using WordPerfect for Linux_, from Que
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From: "W. Christopher Everhart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: kppp setup solution!
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:35:16 GMT
This idea may or may not be related to the problem. I've installed two
separate distributions of Linux, and neither has been able to determine that
my US Robotics Sportster Voice PnP has a 16550AF UART. Because of that, the
system was completely unable to communicate with the modem. (I verified this
using a small terminal program (minicom?)) I ended up solving the problem by
explicitly using setserial to tell it what kind of UART I had.
However, it sounds like you're getting a connection, but not authenticating.
I also noticed that you are using CHAP to connect, but from my experience,
most remote connections these days are using PAP. Could that be your
problem? (I missed your original post).
The last possibility that I can think of is that something in your modem
setup string is keeping your modem from playing well with the remote modem.
I've never encountered this problem with analog modems, but I certainly ran
into it with ISDN.
Jim Quinones wrote:
> Hey Guys,
>
> I have tried both of your suggestions. I am still unable to connect using
> Caldera 3.0 with KPPP. I have tried a couple of modems and I'm still
> getting the "the ppp daemon died unexpectedly". The log says that
> the CHAP authentication failed. I know that I am putting in the correct
> ID and Password (I'm the Remote access administrator) .
> Do you have any other suggestions?
>
> Thx --- JIMq
>
[ snip ]
--
W. Christopher Everhart
Senior Systems Analyst
Christiana Care Health System
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: JM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ghost Pro
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:30:37 GMT
Does anyone know of a program for linux similar to
GhostPro (from Binary Research) - a program to duplicate
harddisks by creating a file image of one harddisk and
applying this image on to another harddisk, possibly checking
for any differences in size from the source and acting accordingly..?
JM
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From: "Ahmad S. Ammar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Buy vs Download Difference: Documentation Only?
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:38:02 -0400
Hello everybody,
I was wondering if there is a difference in the actual amount of
software you get if you buy a CD instead of downloading.
For example, RedHat 6.0 and SuSE 6.1 come with StarOffice Personal
Edition; would you get that even if you download these distributions or
do you have to buy the official CD to get it.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Ahmad.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Magic SysRq (was Re: Linux has finally crashed)
Date: 30 Jul 1999 14:55:42 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:05:13 GMT,
Philip W. Darnowsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: Yeah. Magic-SysRq rocks. I have had several instances where my X-server
>: screws up, and I was able to alt-sysrq-s,u,b - no problems on reboot. A
>: life-saver when you have no network connection.
>
>This does sound pretty cool, but what I wanted to know was if anyone knew
>what the *original* use of SysRq was and how it got onto the keyboard on
>the first place. Even scroll lock I understand (and use), but SysRq? Who
>knows? What happens if, for instance, you hit SysRq on a Windoze box? Or
>on this O2 I'm on? Let's find out. Not much, apparently.
What, Google doesn't give you an answer? Maybe its not on the net.
Under DOS, Ctrl-SysRq was a more powerful Ctrl-C, and I believe SysRq was
used to print the screen to printer. Alt-SysRq might do something
similar under Windows, except to a buffer maybe.
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Stupid Question About Log Files
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:43:30 GMT
Well, I was young and naive when I first told them how to configure the
server (of course, even then I knew there was a difference between
knowing how to install an RPM file and knowing how to tweak the files
in the /etc directory, but they were programmers, not administrators).
The system is currently using a pentium type system we built from spare
parts. Once we go to SCSI, I'll give /var its own partition (my home
system has /, /usr, and temp, with, most items symlinked to directories
under /usr. Works fine for a home system, but you're right, a
production machine needs a bit more thought.
Thanks for the help.
In article <rq1u3s$0$37nspbi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> In a message on Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:35:47 GMT, wrote :
>
> 5> Alright, stupid question time. I am system admin for a linux server
> 5> running a web-based transaction system with apache and MySQL. The
main
> 5> reason I have such a job is I know a bit about linux from a basic
user
> 5> level, but am only just learning the sysadmin part of it.
> 5>
> 5> So here's my question: is there anything in the /var/log directory
I
> 5> can go ahead an dump. Specifically, Im curious about the wtmp and
> 5> wtmp.1 files, which are HUGE. I'm trying to dump as much as
possible as
> 5> right now my daily backups consume 11mb.
> 5>
> 5> Does having a .<number> behind the file mean that it can be
deleted?
> 5>
> 5> If someone can explain this to me, I would be grateful...
>
> Every week the logs are 'rotated' -- the .<number> files get renamed
to
> .<number+1> (except .4 files are deleted) and the file with no
.<number> is
> renamed .1. The various logging processes are hit with a signal to
re-open
> their log files (usually a -HUP).
>
> Yes, you *can* delete any file with a .<number>. It is pointless
(and possibly
> dangerous) to delete files that are not numbered, since these files
are
> constantly open. You *should* backup and save the files you delete
-- the
> log files contains lots of useful information, that might be
*essential* in the
> event of a problem.
>
> A server box *should* have /var on its own partition. A heavy news,
mail,
> or print server should have /var/spool on *its* on partition (a
separate
> *disk* would be better, esp. for news).
>
> So long as /var is on its own partition and so long as things are
configured
> to put your database on either its *own* partition (disk) and your
web server's
> DOCUMENT_ROOT is on its own partition or disk, and with / and /usr
are own their
> own partitions, you'll only need to do monthly full backups of / and
/usr,
> probably only weekly backups of /var. The only file systems that
need serious
> backups would be the file system(s) with your database, HTML files
and
> /var/spool.
>
> You don't need to backup /, /usr, or /var on a daily basis. only
/home, and
> and other user file systems. The database file system(s), and the
file systems
> where the HTML files live (unless they are dead static).
>
> Hmmm. '11mb'. What are you using for a backup device? If you have a
server
> you *should* have a tape drive. 11mb is a drop in the bucket for a
tape. A
> DDS-1 60m tape holds 1.3gig, uncompressed.
>
> 5>
> 5>
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> 5> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
5>
>
> --
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From: David L. Bilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AWE64 and 2.2.5?
Date: 30 Jul 1999 15:18:35 GMT
+-----On 29 Jul 1999 15:29:08 GMT, David L. Bilbey spoke unto us:----------
| A friend of mine just installed RH6.0 and he has an AWE64. From what I've
| read elsewhere, I didn't think he had to do anything special to get it to
| work (other than compile in sound support and support for his card). Am I
| mistaken? He did these, but the card does not work still. Can someone
| point me to a _recent_ HOWTO or other document (one that pertains to kernel
| 2.2.5)? Thanks.
Thanks for all the help. He figured it out with some of the suggestions
here. Thanks again.
David Bilbey
--
"When I think of all the arguments Marta and I have had, I realize how
silly most of them were. And it makes me wonder why she wanted to argue
over such stupid things. I think I'll go ask her." --Jack Handey
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From: Robert Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO and NT40
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:32:11 -0500
Matt Menze wrote:
>
> I have a computer with NT4.0 on one hard drive and RH6.0 on another. I
> was trying to set it up to use LILO so I could choose either linux or
> NT. I installed the boot sector on the Master Boot Record (hda)
> thinking that it would work. But now I cannot get NT to boot. I set up
>
> LILO in linuxconf but when it tries to boot from my NT harddrive it
> restarts LILO. I think that I may have overwritten the NT boot sector.
> Is there anyway to create a startup disk from another NT workstation and
>
> restore my NT boot sector?
Read the LILO documentation. LILO saves a copy of the boot sector and can put
it back for you.
--
Regards,
Bob Wiegand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Phillip Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 30 Jul 1999 16:06:54 +0100
>>>>> "MK" == MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MK> Nope. There was only vulgar October Putch in Russia, funded with
MK> German money who helped Lenin to get power in order to get
MK> Russia off Germany's back in WWI.
Obviously this is your spin on things. Personally I wouldnt
necessarily see it this way, but you are entitled to your opinion. I
think thought that you are judging from future events rather than what
happened at the time. The appearance of Stalin and totalitarianism
doesnt invalidate what happened in 1917, anymore than the storming of
the bastille, and the Paris commune are invalidated by the bloody
tyranny which followed them closely.
>> Well this is a difficultly with socialism these days. Capital
>> unlike govts have gone global very very quickly. Ultimately
>> therefore socialism in one country I dont think is feasible
>> nowadays, only a watered down left leaning capitalism
>> (contradiction in terms or what). Im many ways its why I cease to
>> have much faith in parliamentary democracy. Direct action is
>> getting rapidly to be the last resort of democracy.
MK> Which does not have to end up badly, provided govts will be
MK> pragmatic and limit themselves to the role of preventing
MK> external and internal violence. This might work; after all, this
MK> is what made US economic superpower, so why it should not work
MK> elsewhere?
It doesnt worry you that we are loosing democracy and turning
into a sort of market lead fuedalism? I cant see any justification for
thinking this will not end badly. It is bad in itself. You attempted
justification really doesnt hold water Im afraid. Stalinism managed to
turn Russia from an agraian feudal society, into a industrialised
super power also, within very few years. However I, nor I suspect you,
would believe that this justified the tyranny which existed there.
Being an economic super-power is all very well and good. But
to my mind its not the only thing of importance, although we often
think that it is. For isntance my govt produces reports on the welfare
of the nation. Right at the top was economic performance. But are
people happy? Are they enjoying life? Well no. The incidence of stress
related disease is sprialling upwards, all sorts of mental diseases
are getting more and more common. It may be an old cliche, but being
rich doesnt ensure happiness, and er... money cant buy you love.
MK> I would not count on socialism prevailing again. Socialism is
MK> historical anomaly, a kind of population going bonkers on crazy
MK> idea like seeking philosophical stone or that tulip craziness in
MK> Netherlands in the past.
Well I dont count on it. I have to admit that from the
perspective of my society it seems like a distant and unattainable
dream. However it's one worth aiming for, and one which I will
continue to fight for. You may think that its a historical
anomaly. You may well be right. But I hope not.
Phil
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From: "Stuart MacDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Magic SysRq (was Re: Linux has finally crashed)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:16:30 -0400
William Burrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> What, Google doesn't give you an answer? Maybe its not on the net.
> Under DOS, Ctrl-SysRq was a more powerful Ctrl-C, and I believe SysRq was
> used to print the screen to printer. Alt-SysRq might do something
> similar under Windows, except to a buffer maybe.
Under Win 9x either <ctrl><sysrq> or <alt><sysrq> dumps a bitmap
screen shot of the current window to the clipboard, which you can then
paste into say Paint.
...Stu
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From: Ciprian Toader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Power off on shutdown (BIOS problem?)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 02:37:30 +1200
Hi,
My computer does not power off when I run 'shutdown -h now'.
I have set up the right option before compiling the kernel (2.2.5) but
to no avail. When I do a 'shutdown -h now', after printing the message
"System halted", the system does not shutdown by itself, instead I see a
lot of characters filling the screen. I had the exact same problem with
the 2.0.x kernels. Someone suggested that there might be a bug in the
BIOS but I suspect that because it works in Windows (unless MS has a
work around for this particular BIOS problem, highly unlikely.)
I have a Gigabyte GA586ATX mb and an AMD K6 CPU.
So, if anybody with this motherboard managed to get "power off on
shutdown" working, please email me.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Ciprian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randall Parker)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Linux has finally crashed
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:02:28 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Randall Parker wrote:
>
> If you just want to protect your databases: make sure that your database
> syncs often enough to disk. This can be done by
> - using file i/o with the O_SYNC flag (for example, with opening
> in O_SYNC mode.)
> - performing a fsync() to the file descriptor(s) when a transaction has
> happened. (might provide better performance.)
I see that this can happen on the level of writes by individual files.
Yes, big RDBMSs do that sort of thing. But if the volume's directory
structure becomes corrupted the fact that many individual files on the
disk are intact is not going to help you if you can't recover them.
So I'm really concerned with how to avoid having the directory structure
get corrupted. Hence my interest in:
- setting an individual partition to have immediate writes thru some
setting in the OS. I'd like to be able to do this without having to have
every partition set this way. Its the database partitions that I always
want to be able to recover. Having to reinstall the OS itself is not as
important. One can copy it from a disk image.
- on some volumes use a different filesystem which is known to be less
susceptible to directory structure corruption. I'd like to know whether
anyone here is using something other than ext2 on some of their
partitions. If so, which filesystem are you using and how reliable is it?
>
> Klamer
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Burg)
Subject: 3dfx voodoo banshee
Date: 30 Jul 1999 15:55:14 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,
I am considering a purchase of a 3dfx voodoo banshee AGP card for my linux
system... I would appreciate hearing from people who already own such cards,
regarding subjects such as what brands of boards work best with linux, how well
they work, etc.
Thanks,
John Burg
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From: Greg Leblanc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: RAID1 Questions
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:43:16 GMT
I haven't read it, but the Root-RAID HOWTO might help you.
http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/
Greg
In article <7nq6lg$voc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am running RH 6.0, with kernel 2.2.10 and am trying to add
> mirroring. I read the Software-RaidHOWTO and compiled the kernel with
> RAID1 support. I created the raidtab file just as shown in the HOWTO.
> Unfortunately, when I try to start RAID on md0, it doesnt work becaus
> my drive is mounted.
>
> My questions are:
>
> Can I add RAID1 to my root drive, even while it is mounted? What's
the
> best and safest way of doing this?
> Also, the raidtab file specifies partitions being mirrored. I would
> like to mirror the whole drive which has two partitions and a swap
> space. How do I go about doing that?
>
> Thanks for Your Help,
>
> Phil R.
>
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>
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From: "Alex Abreu" <simonet at bhnet dot com dot br>
Subject: Where to get SuperFormat?
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:58:19 -0500
Where do I get SuperFormat?
There are references to it in the Linux Man Pages (the written version), but
it didn't come with my RH 4.2 (yes, I checked the uninstalled rpms and it
wasn't there).
What I want to do is to format a floppy as 1.76 Mb or 1.83 Mb.
Thanks
Alex
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Hanson)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:35:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Lee) wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>>
>>>As the second poster said, Linux was made by geeks for
>>>geeks, and unfortunately it will probably always remain
>>>so. I have to say that there is NO WAY Linux will ever
>>>become mainstream... simply because of the lack of computer
>>>savvy demonstrated by over 90% of PC users.
>>>
>>
>>Nope, your wrong. Kids now have more computer skills than most "windows"
>users.
>>
>>I see this now in my local linux user group. A lot of the members are
>"kids"..
>>HS'ers, college kids that know thier way around
>>linux as much as I *WOULD* like to.. Today's kids at 8,9,10-15 that
>master
>>Windows are not going to be satisfied with "sh*tty software and OS's.
>>
>>Linux gives thier minds a chance to grow. I give M$ 10 years max.
>>They might still be around, but they will be writing apps, not OS's..
>>Todays kids will certainly make sure that happens.
>
>Yep. Thing to rember is that is nearly all MS boosters were taught Windows
>in school because after the PC replaced the Ataris and C64's in the
>classroom windows/dos was pretty much the only thing around to run on them.
>That's pretty much not the case anymore.
Very few C=>64s or Ataris made it to the classrooms. I think you're talking
about Apple ][ followed by Mac.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:59:18 GMT
>I'm 30, and started using Linux in 1995. But from 1997 on, I'd been using
>FreeBSD almost exclusively. It'd be interesting to have someone take a
>survey on a web site. I think a quick guestimation would be that the
>average age of FreeBSD users are 10 years greater than those of Linux
>users.
I am new to all this. <G>
How is FreeBSD better than Linux?
Can apps written for Linux run under FreeBSD...
and vise versa?
And.. I am guessing that FreeBSD is "free", right?
John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randall Parker)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:02:31 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> If you decide to go to the US good luck there. I may even move
> there myself. If I do I shall take my lfet wing, socialist (communist
> if you like) views with me....
Please stay in Europe and keep your socialist views there. I don't want
the left to ruin American like it has done to so many other parts of the
world.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randall Parker)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:02:32 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> OK, I live in Europe (in 2003 in EU). If it so much more better in
> Europe, why don't you swap your citizenship with some European?
Marcin,
That is a great idea. I'd love to see all the American socialists move to
Europe and all the European free market capitalists move to America. Then
all the socialists can demonstrate to us what a better society they can
create.
What would be great about this for us advocates of the free market and
limited government is that we wouldn't have to pay taxes to support all
the socialist redistributionists. Then they can show just how much better
their system can work. (it won't work but at least it won't be our
problem)
> Why are you not moving to Europe if this is so much better. BTW,
> I definitely would like to move to US.
Great, as long as you are not a socialist I look forward to seeing you
here.
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From: "A.T.Z." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 18:50:40 +0200
Randall Parker schreef:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> >
> > If you decide to go to the US good luck there. I may even move
> > there myself. If I do I shall take my lfet wing, socialist (communist
> > if you like) views with me....
>
> Please stay in Europe and keep your socialist views there. I don't want
> the left to ruin American like it has done to so many other parts of the
> world.
Worst part is that socialism gets more power in The Netherlands, France
(always has), UK, Germany. Most of our own socialists are becoming normal
people. Not the kind of santa socialist.
Bye,
B.
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From: warmongr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A Redhat 6.0 Perl DBI to Mysql Question
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:00:02 GMT
I am having the exact same problem. The DBI modules are installed in
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl as you stated however @INC does not contain
that path. My questions is (being new to DBI and PERL) where is the
@INC variable defined.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> John Haverlack wrote:
>
> (snip)
>
> > [haverje@electron test]$ ./index.pl
> > Can't locate loadable object for module DBI in @INC (@INC contains:
> > /usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.00503
> > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005
> > .) at ./index.pl line 14
> > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./index.pl line 14.
>
> Well, it says it can't find DBI.pm and it tells you the four
directories
> it's checking.
> Have you checked to see where your DBI.pm is ?
>
> $ find /usr/lib/perl5 -name DBI.pm
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/DBI.pm
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i586-linux/Bundle/DBI.pm
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i586-linux/DBI.pm
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux/Bundle/DBI.pm
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux/DBI.pm
> $
>
> >
> > when I try to run a test script, which I had working on a rh 5.2
> > system. I think the issue is with the DBI modules more so that the
> > version of RH. But I'm having real problems getting it to work.
> >
> > Here are the RPMS I have installed.
> >
> > MySQL-client-3.22.22-1
> > MySQL-3.22.22-1
> > MySQL-devel-3.22.22-1
> > DBI-perl-bin-0.93-1
>
> I think this is way old.
>
> $ perl -we 'use DBI; print "$DBI::VERSION\n";'
> 1.11
> $
>
> I'd recommend updating from CPAN:
>
> # perl -MCPAN -e shell
> cpan> install DBI
>
> Here's a decent CPAN mirror:
> ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/perl/CPAN/
>
> -Adrian
>
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