Linux-Misc Digest #222, Volume #19 Sun, 28 Feb 99 00:13:11 EST
Contents:
Re: RH vs SuSE (Monte Milanuk)
Key mappings after upgrading termcap/ncurses (Dan Srebnick)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Arthur)
Re: hunh, case obsolete, use switch! oh <explitive deleted> ???? (Jack P.
Starrantino)
Re: Linux Security Questions (Thomas Wu)
Re: Booting without a keyboard (Andries Brouwer)
Re: Anti-Virus for Linux ("James R. Bunch")
Re: Printer problem with form feed (Tobias Reckhard (jester))
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Paul Hughett)
Re: Booting without a keyboard (Andries Brouwer)
Serial Port for External Modem (AdmFrodos)
Re: Automatically determine irq etc of soundcard like oss does? (Andreas Hinz)
Re: APM causes time hiccups? (Andreas Hinz)
Re: Can't record sound with microphone (Andreas Hinz)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Louis Epstein)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Louis Epstein)
Re: Remote CVS Access Broke With RedHat 5.2 Linux Upgrade (Derald Metzger)
Re: Linux/FreeBSD compatability (Was Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)) (david
parsons)
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From: Monte Milanuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RH vs SuSE
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:43:34 -0600
> ries. The next release of SuSE will contain the newer kernel, 2.2.x
> and if SuSE's performance is any gauge, everything will be taylored
> together nicely.
> Am I a SuSE enthusiast? ;-)
> Jerry
SuSE 6.0 _does_ have the 2.2.x kernel available. It is 2.2.0pre7, but
on my system it 'broke' the modem/pppd--programs either couldn't detect
the modem, or detected it as always busy. Therefore I downloaded 2.2.2
& patch ac3 and am planning to delve into that next.
I agree, SuSE does seem to have their act together better than RedHat,
just RH is more aggressive marketing stateside, therefore has better
brand recognition i.e. more and more software is being tailored to their
quirks (sound familiar, anyone?) Lest it be said that I am joining the
growing ranks of the RedHat haters, I have used 4.2, 5.0, 5.1, & 5.2,
and SuSE 5.3, and Slackware 3.5. Most of my experience is w/ RH 5.2,
and I did get used to having to dig a little to get to things. This
combo of YaST and KDE 1.1 (i upgraded about five minutes after
installing) seems almost too easy 8^)
My gripes so far w/ SuSE 6.0:
1) The beginning install screen asks you to choose a language, then a
color, then a language _again_.
2) Even after selecting English as the default language, the install
program tried to slip in some German versions along with the English,
and in some cases, _instead_ of the English. Petty, but annoying as
heck.
3) Some typo errors in the manual referring to program/documentation
locations. I eventually found them anyway, but someone brand new to
Linux may not have.
4) The installed Netscape defaults to the German SuSE page. Also the
ISP's in the YaST ppp setup are almost exclusively european. You have a
hard time setting up a local U.S. ISP as anything other than 'generic'
See #2
5) tried the wvdial program before I realized it was probably the kernel
messing up my pppd. After switching to 2.0.36, wvdial was still broken.
6) Granted, SuSE covers their tracks by stating that the 2.0.36 kernel
is the 'supported' one, not the 'hacker' 2.2.0pre7, but I would have
expected at least pppd to work w/ a shipping kernel, beta or not.
Again, minor, really.
All in all, if these are the only things I find wrong, then SuSE 6.0
will be far and away the best distro I have used so far. The manual is
really excellent, and getting bigger. Even if I do RTFM, I just may
miss something.
Monte Milanuk
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From: Dan Srebnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Key mappings after upgrading termcap/ncurses
Date: 27 Feb 1999 23:42:49 -0500
I've upgraded my termcap to 2.0.8 and my ncurses to 4.2 as part of an
upgrade from libc5 to glibc2.06.
My "End" key used to go to the end of the line in editors such as pico and
vi, or when doing command line editing in bash. I seem to have lost this
behaviour. Would someone kindly advise me on what I screwed up?
Thanks,
Dan
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From: Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:01:40 -0800
Mayor Of R'lyeh wrote:
>
> On Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:01:53 -0800, Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> chose to
> bless us all with this bit of wisdom:
> >Mayor Of R'lyeh wrote:
> >
[snip]
> >You may have the facts right in the instance cited where 3 women
> >died - you haven't cited any source.
>
> Look it up if you don't believe me.
I did - didn't find anything except someplace where I could
buy the transcript of the trial. I never said I didn't believe
you, or that I believe you either.
> > Michael did cite one source
> >for an out of court settlement in a different case involving the
> >Pinto gas tank.
> Micheal cited one Ford report and then deliberately misinterpreted it.
I don't recall that he did any misinterpretation at all.
> > I don't have a verifiable source to cite either,
> >other than I recall there were more than these two cases. I do
> >recall that Ford was not found negligent in the case you're citing.
> >My guess (and it's only a guess) is that they settled out of
> >court in a number of other cases.
> AIRC Ford was found negligent but it was overturned. What's so bad
> about settling out of cout? You seem to be implying that there's
> something sinister about it.
Where exactly did I imply settling out of court was 'sinister'?
Simply by mentioning it? My point was simply that there were a
number of cases, not just one, and that they weren't settled
by trial.
> >> So then Ford would
> >> have been sued for not having self-sealing cas tanks, etc. There's
> >> ALWAYS going to be 'one more thing' that could have been done to
> >> improve safety. At some point you have to do a trade off with regard
> >> to price. Having the ultimately safe vehicle for sale does you no good
> >> if no one can afford to buy it.
> >I don't think anyone's suggesting that mfgs are liable for every
> >instance of death or injury.
> Micheal is.
You seem to be reading a lot more into people's posts than
what is actually there.
> > On the other hand, people should be
> >able to have a reasonable expectation of a certain level of safety
> >during common use. Tail-end collisions are common. No other auto
> >mfg at the time had problems with tanks rupturing in tail-end
> >collisions.
> No one had a problem at all. There were a few spectactular accidents
> and everyone jumped to conclusions. The Pinto gas tank wasn't anymore
> apt to rupture in a rear end collision than any other cars. That's the
> urban myth I was talking about. A lot of people, to this day, think
> that if you kick a Pinto hard the gas tank will rupture.
That apparently is based on your recollection. My recollection,
which includes discussions with Ford engineers, is different.
> You may want to look up the GM pickups and side saddle gas tanks. NBC
> was so eager to try and defame GM over them that they faked accidents
> that showed that those would 'explode'. NBC's lies exposed the issue
> for what it was- a shakedown of a company by a bunch of greedy
> miscreants and the issue went away.
I'm well aware that NBC used squibs to ignite the gas tanks.
That doesn't prove or disprove anything about GM, it simply
proves something about NBC. It also proves nothing about
the Ford Pinto at all. Do you think NBC should be held
liable for their negligence (lack of disclosure) or fraud,
since it resulted in injury to GM?
> > Ford doesn't have this problem now. It's likely that
> >Ford was aware of the possibility of the gas tank rupturing,
>
> In a high speed rear end collision. I'm sure they were. So is every
> other car manufacturer.
'High speed' is not a very precise definition. Ford Pinto
problems, as I recall, were at lower speeds (30mph and
below). I don't have statistics on gas tank ruptures vs.
speed (do you?). I've seen totalled cars and don't remember
any that were charred. There have been any number of
chain reaction crashes involving 50 or more cars, which
must have included a lot of tail-end crashes, and I don't
remember any cars bursting into flames from those. Other
than GM (which you brought up above), I don't recall any
other lawsuits involving gas tank ruptures - surely if
they were common lawyers would be all over them.
Given that the gas tank on most cars is surrounded by
the rear bumper, axle, and in some cases the frame,
it may likely be that gas tank ruptures are rare -
again, I don't have any evidence to support my claims
and will admit it. You don't have any evidence either,
but apparently aren't inclined to admit it.
> Why don't you cite something to the contrary then? This case wasn't
> that long ago. It is easily remembered.
I have cited what I remember based on the way I remember it.
20 years is a long time for accurate recall. I'll be happy to
cite research on this or any other case of fraud/negligence
as soon as you begin to do the same. I'm not inclined to
spend a lot off effort refuting your imagination.
> >> > Immoral men do put earnings ahead of human life.
> >>
> >> Sure they do. Not nearly as often people want to think though. The
> >> notion that going into business makes you some sort of cold-blooded
> >> fiend is just absurd. Business people are human beings with all of the
> >> concerns and conscience that anybody else has. They do make easy
> >> targets for those unwilling to accept resonsibility for their own
> >> lives. (I can't get ahead. Its those evil business people holding the
> >> little guy down! Its not my fault that I got burned! If those evil
> >> business people had made my car safer I could had pulled that idiotic
> >> maneuver, caused that accident and just walked away!)
> >
> >Nice rant, but it doesn't change the fact that Ford probably made
> >conscious decisions that resulted in loss of life.
>
> Like what? Like not making a 100% safe car? They couldn't do it no
> matter what you and the other naderites want to believe.
Like knowing that gas tanks would rupture in tail-end
collisions at speeds below 30mph, and by leaving out
parts of the structure that would have prevented it
according to their own engineering evaluations. I
totalled a car at 30mph (my fault entirely) and walked
away with torn muscles from hitting the shoulder belt
and a bit lip. It isn't possible or reasonable to make
cars "100% safe" - it is possible to acheive some
minimum level of safety which is reasonable to expect.
> > Are you suggesting
> >that because sometimes (or even most of the time) it's really the
> >consumer who's reponsible that businesses should _never_ be held
> >responsible when they are at fault?
>
> Why should a company be responsible for your actions with their
> product? If you cause a wreck its your fault. Just because you were
> driving a Ford doesn't make it Ford's fault.
It's Ford's fault if they don't acheive a minimum level
of safety under normal conditions, or if they willfully
circumvent safety features. Most companies recognize this
and build it into their design process. The potential of
lawsuits provides some motivation, but in my experience
what comes up most often is simply a matter of ethics.
Most companies don't want to kill or injure their customers,
and most actively try to prevent that from happening.
> >Are you suggesting that major
> >corporations like Ford are at the mercy of evil consumers, unable
> >to defend themselves?
>
> Are you suggesting that its ok to sue everyone under the sun when you
> screw up instead of accepting the responsibility yourself?
Nope - I think there's a legal system in place which is
capable of adjucating blame and identifying frivolous or
fraudulent suits. The 'hypodermic in the Pepsi can' case
comes to mind, for example.
> >
> >[snip PCB story]
> >
> >And this PCB story excuses Ford's actions how? It's also
> >possible to cite cases where business was at fault and
> >did behave in a fradulent or willfully negligent manner,
> >which also doesn't make any difference to the specifics
> >of a particular instance of behavior.
>
> I'd like to see some of them. And remember, I'm looking for incidents
> where a business actually behaved that way not one where you
> interpreted them as behaving that way.
You cited one above - NBC faking test results on GM pickups.
[snip]
> >Why exactly is 'profiteering' by lawyers and clients worse than
> >'profiteering' done by companies who knowingly place their
> >customers lives in jeopardy?
> > Or are you suggesting the latter
> >never happens?
> You think its alright to sue people who aren't at fault for something
> just to collect money? How exposing of your naderite tendencies!
Nope - I think it's alright for judges and juries to determine
fault based on evidence. If that system involves lawyers making
a profit, it doesn't bother me.
Arthur
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jack P. Starrantino)
Subject: Re: hunh, case obsolete, use switch! oh <explitive deleted> ????
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 23:06:33 -0500
Joe (theWordy) Philbrook ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I'm working on a shell script in bash on my linux now and wanted to
: refresh my memory on how to test for more than one pattern in a
: case $variable in ^M pattern) command;; expresion.
$ man bash # then search for 'case'
jps
--
Jack P. Starrantino [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.voicenet.com/~jpps
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From: Thomas Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Security Questions
Date: 27 Feb 1999 11:50:33 -0800
Steve Zinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> By default most (all?) Linux distributions install shadow passwords now, so
> thats not too much of a problem. As far as telnet connections and such,
> they're all plain-text, so it's strongly suggested that you forget about the
> telnet protocol and install sshd. Get sshd from:
Not all telnet connections occur in the clear. There are, in fact,
secure telnet clients/servers (see http://srp.stanford.edu/srp/) that
also encrypt the session and which are 100% free/Open Source and are
well supported by PAM. I'd suggest installing them first.
--
Tom Wu * finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key *
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Those who would give up their freedoms in
Phone: (650) 723-1565 exchange for security deserve neither."
http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~tjw/ http://srp.stanford.edu/srp/
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andries Brouwer)
Subject: Re: Booting without a keyboard
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 19:58:44 GMT
Phil Snowdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:: >
:: >I don't want to have to plug in a keyboard everytime the system is
:: >rebooted. System keyboard entry in bios is disabled. Any Ideas?
::
:: You need to change the bios defaults on your box so that
:: the post does not halt on errors. If the bios setup
:: does not offer such an option you are going to have to
:: put a dummy in the keyboard socket.
::
: All of the bios settings are set to ignore errors, not to wait on "F1"
: etc.
: The bios post seems quite happy, as does LILO, which loads linux off
: hda1. its only after loading and before uncompressing that everything
: stops. Are there any boot parameters that would be useful, or would
: using an uncompressed kernel help?
There is a problem in the Linux boot code, namely the loop
! This routine checks that the keyboard command queue is empty
! (after emptying the output buffers)
!
! No timeout is used - if this hangs there is something wrong with
! the machine, and we probably couldn't proceed anyway.
empty_8042:
call delay
in al,#0x64 ! 8042 status port
test al,#1 ! output buffer?
jz no_output
call delay
in al,#0x60 ! read it
jmp empty_8042
no_output:
test al,#2 ! is input buffer full?
jnz empty_8042 ! yes - loop
ret
in /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/setup.S or so.
Sometimes, in case of a missing keyboard, this hangs forever.
Delete this loop, or insert a timeout.
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From: "James R. Bunch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anti-Virus for Linux
Date: 27 Feb 1999 20:05:32 GMT
Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: There aren't really any AV packages for Linux. Mostly that's because:
: a) there aren't really any viruses for Linux. There was one combination
: virus/worm written as a demonstration, but it never propagated very
: far. That's the only one I've heard of. Since Linux uses a completely
: different executable format and system-call API from DOS and Windows,
: DOS/Windows viruses can't propagate to Linux.
[snip]
On Intel platforms you still have to be carefull of BSI's since they get
to the machine _before_ the OS loads. They can do a good job of clobbering
lilo. Probably the highest risk systems are those that dual-boot linux and
DOS/WinXX.
--
=============================
James R. Bunch "A Byte is a terrible thing to waste ...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... a MByte 1048576 times worse"
PGP Key available via finger
PGP Key fingerprint = B5 31 10 77 BF B0 FD B2 10 54 CB E6 13 7C 26 58
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tobias Reckhard (jester))
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Printer problem with form feed
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:00:08 GMT
On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:02:52 +0100, "Frank Stiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>My printer (HP Deskjet 895 Cxi) always prints another blank page after he
>did the normal print job. I think, this is a form feed based on linux. My
>printer is connected with my server where linux is installed. On my computer
>Win98 is installed and the RAW data is send to the server and the server
>send the data directly to the printer port. Someone says, that you can
>deactivate the form feed option in linux, but where?
In /etc/printcap, disable the input filter for the printer. The
options are separated by colons and in my printcap, on several lines
linked by the Unix 'soft-line-break'-character "\", so I just put a
hash mark in front of the line starting with ":if=/usr/lib/apsfilt..."
and that was enough.
Tobias / jester
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Hughett)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 27 Feb 1999 19:27:52 GMT
Alexander Viro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Bullshit. GPL is *not* copyrighted. You can't change it on the code of somebody
: else (heck, you'ld better keep *any* copyright intact). If you are starting
: your own work - edit the thing to your heart content. You'ld better drop
: mentioning of FSF as source of standard text, but that's kinda obvious ;-).
Quote:
Gnu General Public License
Version 2, June 1991
Copyright (c) 1989, 1991, Free Software Foundation.
Unquote.
Paul Hughett
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andries Brouwer)
Subject: Re: Booting without a keyboard
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 20:05:22 GMT
Rudy Zijlsta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: I am configuring a system to work as a bridge, using the (still
: experimental) bridge code in the kernel.
:
: This is working quite well, and because the system is at a location where
: keyboard and monitor are quite a nuisance, I am running without both.
: Basically an "embedded" system.
:
: Problem: I need the keyboard to boot
: -1- bios does not check for keyboard (Yes, I verified)
: -2- keyboard is not needed for fast A20 switching (once its up, I unplug
: the keyboard, which is a definite irritation, It means it wont boot after a
: power failure....)
: -3- Linus has mentioned that in the 2.1.1xxx kernels there was a problem
: with booting without keyboard, I just can't remember where I read that. It
: was solved though in the 2.2.x series kernel.
: -4- I am using kernel 2.2.1
: -5- What is the configuration option I am missing???
:
: Rudy Zijlstra
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Try and see whether the hang is in
! No timeout is used - if this hangs there is something wrong with
! the machine, and we probably couldn't proceed anyway.
empty_8042:
call delay
in al,#0x64 ! 8042 status port
test al,#1 ! output buffer?
jz no_output
call delay
in al,#0x60 ! read it
jmp empty_8042
no_output:
test al,#2 ! is input buffer full?
jnz empty_8042 ! yes - loop
ret
(in arch/i386/boot/setup.S).
Adding a timeout may solve your problems.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AdmFrodos)
Subject: Serial Port for External Modem
Date: 27 Feb 1999 20:13:33 GMT
I can't get my serial port to work under Slackware 2.0.29. I run "dmesg" and it
tells me that tty00 exists, assumedly my mouse, which works fine, but then even
after I run 'setserial' on COM2 (which connects my external, 9600 baud ZOOM
modem) progams like minicom and such don't detect anything there when given
/dev/cua1 or /dev/ttyS1 as an option.
Thanks in advance,
rt
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Hinz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Automatically determine irq etc of soundcard like oss does?
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 20:14:25 GMT
On 26 Feb 1999 11:35:50 GMT, Rainer Krienke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>What I would like to know if anyone knows a way how to determine the
>parameters to load the soundmodule automatically.
I am using this in my /etc/conf.modules for my sound adapter:
alias char-major-14 opl3sa2
pre-install opl3sa2 modprobe "-k" "ad1848"
post-install opl3sa2 modprobe "-k" "opl3"
options opl3sa2 io=0x100 mss_io=0x540 mpu_io=0x330 irq=5 dma=0 dma2=1
options opl3 io=0x388keep
Take a look in /usr/linux/Documentation/sound and look for the file for your
sound adapter.
And make sure you have set
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_KMOD=y
in /usr/src/linux/.config
You are not stating which adapter you have so I can not help more than this.
--
Med venlig hilsen / Best regards
Andreas Hinz
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Hinz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: APM causes time hiccups?
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 20:14:25 GMT
On 21 Feb 1999 14:47:05 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>linux, every time I suspend and resume the laptop, my system clock jumps
>ahead almost exactly 15 minutes.
>
I have the opposite problem. I am loosing time.
I have use a Toshiba Sattelite without any problem but my new Chicony has
this behavior.
I have (for now) solved it with the following in /var/spool/cron/crontab/root:
0-59/5 * * * * /sbin/hwclock --hctosys
since the computers time is OK while Linux falls behind.
When I get the time I will dig into the source trying to solve this.
--
Med venlig hilsen / Best regards
Andreas Hinz
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Hinz)
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.sound
Subject: Re: Can't record sound with microphone
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 20:14:29 GMT
On 26 Feb 1999 23:36:02 -0500, David Guertin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I can hear my voice very faintly, buried under waves of static.
>
I have and had the same problem under several notebooks running Linux.
All OPL3Sax. I have never solved this and I have to boot Windows to record
via microphone. And I get this in crytal clear sound quality.
And I have used a SB16 Value in a desktop PC, but this was totally mute.
I did not try very hard to solve this problem.
--
Med venlig hilsen / Best regards
Andreas Hinz
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Louis Epstein)
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 04:42:55 GMT
Chris Morgan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:
: > > What country uses # as a currency? :-(
: >
: > I think they are reffering to pound....England
:
: In Britain I always called it a hash symbol and � is the pound symbol
: (hope that looks correct).
Depends on the newsreader.In mine it appears as a u with a rising accent
over it.
Was the "hash symbol" ever used for pounds of weight there?
(Before Brussels banned them?)
I always call "#" the "number sign" myself.
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Louis Epstein)
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 04:45:03 GMT
Richard E. Hawkins Esq. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Louis Epstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:
: >Of course,a thousand years ago,the pound sterling(currency) originated
: >as a troy pound of sterling silver...though the currency unit will now
: >buy only a fraction of a troy OUNCE of sterling silver.
:
: Keep going further back :) It was a *roman* measure, and substantially
: all of the european units were based on it until fairly recently.
: franc, lira, pound . . .
The franc replaced the Livre,which was divided into twenty sous which
were divided into deniers.Hence the old L-s-d abbreviations for pounds,
shillings,pence.
I don't know why the currency pound was divided into twenty shillings
of twelve pennies while the troy pound weight was divided into twelve
twenty-pennyweight ounces.
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From: Derald Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.software.config-mgmt,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Remote CVS Access Broke With RedHat 5.2 Linux Upgrade
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 21:09:37 +0000
David Heddle wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I recently upgraded my home Linux box to Red Hat 5.2. This also
> upgraded cvs to 1.10. I keep a cvs repository on the home linux box
> and use password authentication from machines over the net for access.
> After upgrading, if I try to access the repository remotely I get the
> following error
>
> >cvs update
> cvs [update aborted]: unrecognized auth response from 137.155.x.x :
> error 0 Server configuration missing --allow-root in inetd.conf
>
> (I put int the x.x to protect the ip address)
>
> All this worked beautifully before I upgraded (betcha never heard that
> from a linux user before!) Any suggestions? It seems as if I need
> "--allow-root" SOMEWHERE in my inetd.conf file, but I do not know
> where.
>
> Thanks for any & all help.
>
> David
>
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
I'm not familiar with older version of cvs but the err msg is indicating
that the /etc/inetd.conf line does not contain the proper
`allow-root=<$CVSROOT>' value for your repository. Here is an example
line:
cvspserver stream tcp nowait root /usr/bin/cvs cvs
--allow-root=/cm/cvstst pserver
You can find more doc on this using `info cvs->m repository->m remote->m
password'.
I may post a detailed setup for a remote repository with some minimal
access control features on www.remotesensing.org in the near future.
--
Derald Metzger
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From: o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s (david parsons)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux/FreeBSD compatability (Was Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?))
Date: 27 Feb 1999 12:10:33 -0800
In article <7b6skh$27ts$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Robert Sexton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm still unsure as to why the Linux camp has made /proc into the
>lazy programmers kernel interface. I guess its easier to open a file
>than to look up a system call.
It's easier to get to the information that it is if that information
is only in a system call. If all the kernel information is locked
up behind a system call, it's somewhat difficult to get at it from
a shellscript.
Of course, Linux also DOESN'T have a devfs in the mainline kernel
because the core team thinks that having the kernel accurately
report devices is icky.
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david parsons \bi/ I hate major and minor numbers.
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