Linux-Misc Digest #222, Volume #25               Sun, 23 Jul 00 22:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Operating systems for personal-computers? (sibo)
  mandrake 7.0 & staroffice(newbie) (WILLO)
  Extremely slow web server (Jason Rotunno)
  Dislpay Problems: smudging and pointer snail trail (Lew  Trotski)
  Re: esd is a bitch (ray)
  Re: How do I get numbers from /dev/random? (John Hasler)
  Re: ontrack ddo; windows doesn't see my files (Michel Catudal)
  Debian Founder Launches Commercial Company. (blowfish)
  Re: suspend? (Tomislav Nakic-Alfirevic)
  Re: Debian Founder Launches Commercial Company. (Prasanth A. Kumar)
  getting the ip addess in a dhcp computer  (Evan Panagiotopoulos)
  Frisbie problem with SuSE 6.4 (Michel Catudal)
  Keymap Problem ("Antony Mak")
  Re: Can't find installed (Andrew Purugganan)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (sibo)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.lynx,comp.os.misc,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.psion.misc
Subject: Re: Operating systems for personal-computers?
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 00:25:32 +0000

Steve Petrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Lets start the nominations for computer of the year:  the G4 Cube....

> It is a pretty case. Now if we could just get the case with an AMD cpu
> running LINUX it would be worth buying. Or better yet, a smaller version
> with EPOC or embedded DOS. :-)

Yes! A dual StrongARM box with a 21" touchscreen running EPOC 
Datacentre and the MARM build of Photoshop 6 and Dreamweaver!!!


-- 
Pazza!

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From: WILLO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mandrake 7.0 & staroffice(newbie)
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 00:30:03 GMT

Hello,

I am having a hard time using staroffice, which came with my version of 
mandrake linux 7.0(air). I believe I have installed it correctly, because 
when I go to rpmdrake, it says its there, but I dont know how to find or 
execute it. I guess I'm just too used to the windows world, which is why 
I'm eagerly attempting to learn linux. It does'nt show the program listed 
in the start menu "K", so I don't know how to start it. Thank-you in 
advance, and any help will be appreciated.

--
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http://www.help.com/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Rotunno)
Subject: Extremely slow web server
Date: 24 Jul 2000 00:54:00 GMT

I'm wondering what would cause a web server (Apache) to crawl almost to a 
stop.  The pages either take very long to load or it times out.  This box 
has been up for a few days.  I noticed yesterday that it was serving pages 
slowly and today is crawling.  This is happening with people that are 
trying to access it from everywhere.  I just uploaded (ftp) and 
downloaded a 2meg file and the transfer went fine.  The There's plenty of 
harddrive space and here's what top says.  (Also, the site gets a high 
number of hits).

 4:46pm  up 49 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.09, 0.05, 0.00
186 processes: 185 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states:  2.4% user,  1.9% system,  0.0% nice, 95.6% idle
Mem:  1036072K av, 150244K used, 885828K free, 229936K shrd,  51740K buff
Swap: 273088K av,      0K used, 273088K free                 27888K cached

  PID USER     PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT  LIB %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
 1075 root      17   0  1136 1136   860 R       0  1.1  0.1   0:00 top
 1028 nobody     2   0  1584 1584  1388 S       0  0.2  0.1   0:00 httpd
 1046 nobody     2   0  1584 1584  1392 S       0  0.2  0.1   0:00 httpd
 1054 nobody     2   0  1584 1584  1384 S       0  0.2  0.1   0:00 httpd
 1058 nobody     2   0  1552 1552  1388 S       0  0.2  0.1   0:00 httpd
  875 nobody     1   0  1588 1588  1384 S       0  0.1  0.1   0:00 httpd
 1015 nobody     1   0  1584 1584  1388 S       0  0.1  0.1   0:00 httpd
 1029 nobody     1   0  1584 1584  1388 S       0  0.1  0.1   0:00 httpd
    1 root       0   0   488  488   408 S       0  0.0  0.0   0:04 init
    2 root       0   0     0    0     0 SW      0  0.0  0.0   0:01 kflushd
    3 root       0   0     0    0     0 SW      0  0.0  0.0   0:00 kupdate
    4 root       0   0     0    0     0 SW      0  0.0  0.0   0:00 kpiod
    5 root       0   0     0    0     0 SW      0  0.0  0.0   0:00 kswapd
   93 root       0   0   892  892   672 S       0  0.0  0.0   0:00 rc
  306 root       0   0   628  628   492 S       0  0.0  0.0   0:00 syslogd
  317 root       0   0   804  804   384 S       0  0.0  0.0   0:00 klogd
  331 daemon     0   0   492  492   408 S       0  0.0  0.0   0:00 atd

Any have any ideas?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew  Trotski)
Subject: Dislpay Problems: smudging and pointer snail trail
Date: 24 Jul 2000 01:11:56 GMT

I have an S3 Virge DX/GX PCI video adapter with 2Mb video ram. I am using 
RH 6.2:

here goes:

1) my pointer in Xwindow had a square attached to it - annoying. I added 
[Option "sw_cursor] to get rid of it (a tip I picked up in these ng's) 
which worked fine - EXCEPT now the pointer leaves a trail behind it 
whenever I move it - so that moving the pointer around is like painting the 
screen witha paint brush - in the end you can't see a thing.

2) even if I leave the "box" hanging onto the pointer - i.e. remove the 
[Option "sw_cursor"] my screen gets smudged up the pop up button tips etc. 
The most spectacular thing to occur is when I close a "Window" within 
Xwindow - where the window or icon was is a huge smudge.

3) if I change XF86Config so that I don't use the S3 adapter and use the 
generic adapter, I have no problems - apart, of course, from the fact that 
it is totally unuseable since the resolution is so low!


I can provide more info if you want, including the XF86Config file if you 
wish.

Please help - I am a newbie - and I really can't get onto the important 
stuff until I get the disply fixed!

Ta;

Lew

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From: ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: esd is a bitch
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 01:13:41 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> > greetings...
>
> > my question is this:
> > why oh why does esd keep starting up and killing whatever music i have
> > playing. run alone it makes some shitty little space noises which i
> > presume are supposed to serve as a test of some sorts, but whenever i
> > start xmms and play an mp3, at some random spot it will freeze, thus
> > crashing xmms as well, and sure enough a "ps ax" shows an esd where
> > before there was none.
>
> Have a look through your xmms preferences... There's one in there (probably
> output) that allows it to pipe its output through esd.
>
> The main point of esd is to allow the use of the different sound card
> channels simultaniously, and thus play multiple sound files simultaniously.
>
> If you don't want that, there's probably and esd script in /etc/initd or
> /sbin/initd (or wherever it is they put it in red hat. Another file to look
> at is rc.config...)
>
> --
> ______________________________________________________________________________
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> |     Computer Science     |     Arnold Judas Rimmer- Red Dwarf              |
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Yes, had the same issue here, some time ago. In XMMS get options,
preferences, window. At the bottom
is the "ouput plugin" , there's a spin box, there, and you want to use the esound
one.


    --
Ray R. Jones
Errors have been made. Others will be blamed.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I get numbers from /dev/random?
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 00:04:03 GMT

Bill Unruh writes:
> ...although I thought it was urandom which was the real random number
> generator (ie generated by physically random things)...

man 4 random.  /dev/random will only returns bytes if the supply of entropy
is adequate to assure high quality, while /dev/urandom will always return
bytes.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ontrack ddo; windows doesn't see my files
Date: 23 Jul 2000 20:42:57 -0500

Oktay Altunergil a �crit :
> 
> Hello,
> 
>   I have a problem with Seagate's Disk Wizard which installs OnTrack's DDO
>   software. Something went wrong during installation and there seems to be
>   nothing in the C: drive anymore. Only a file called 'L' and an empty
>   'Windows' directory. However, when I boot Linux using using the boot
> disk,
>   I can see that my windows partitions remain unchanged and I can access
> all
>   my files which do not show up in DOS. I believe somehow Linux remembers
> the
>   correct geometry or something. While it's good that I can back up the
> files
>   in Linux, I would like to be able to save the Windows installation since
> I
>   know everything is there somewhere. Tried 'fdisk /mbr' already but that
> did
>   not help. I believe I have to uninstall Ontrack's overlay software but I
>   don't know how to go about doing it. Does anybody have any idea?
> 
>   Thanks
> 
>   Oktay
> 

It looks like your partition table is hozed. If you made a backup you should be able to
recover it. If not do a search to see if you can find a discussion on the subject.
When NT and Corel Linux did that to me I saved all my files on a different hard disk 
while booted
on SuSE and then recreated a dos partition table, repartitioned and reinstalled 
everything.

Yes, both NT 4.0 and Corel Linux blew my partition table. I was a pro when Corel Linux 
did it but
as usual never thought that a Linux distribution would do it to me and didn't have my 
partition table
saved.

You would probably notice that you can't play much with fdisk now but since Linux 
doesn't use the
dos partition table you can still see everything as it is supposed to be.


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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Debian Founder Launches Commercial Company.
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:43:40 -0700

Oh well. Money makes the world goes round.

Nothing wrong with going commercial.

Maybe now he's finally sees the light.

More "red faces" for the GNU/GPL die hards? :P~

http://www.linux-mag.com/online/progeny_01.html
-- 
Alex / blowfish

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From: Tomislav Nakic-Alfirevic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: suspend?
Date: 24 Jul 2000 01:35:15 GMT

Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This would most likely be prohibitively expensive in terms of CPU
> time... the root partition is accessed dozens of times per second, if
I need it not as a daemon running while I go about my buisness but as a
tool to isolate the processes whick use the disk most frequently so
that I could later do something about those processes.

> dependent on actual hardware.  If you just want to blank the screen and
> have the drives spin down, see above for "update" tweaking, and mess
That will do, I guess. I'm going to try some of your tweaking tips.

> Keep in mind that modern hard drives are built/made to operate
> continuously.  I've had mine running for a month at a time without
> problems, and these are cheap-arse IDE drives.  If it's noise you object
> to, get a heavier case or put sound-insulating material around the case
> you have.

One of the main reasons is noise, yes. However, I can't muffle the disk as
isolating the disk or the whole case is very hard due to need for
ventilation. The spindown is the best solution, as I see it.


Thank you for such detailed advice.

                                                Tomislav

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Subject: Re: Debian Founder Launches Commercial Company.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 01:53:28 GMT

blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Oh well. Money makes the world goes round.
> 
> Nothing wrong with going commercial.
> 
> Maybe now he's finally sees the light.
> 
> More "red faces" for the GNU/GPL die hards? :P~
> 
> http://www.linux-mag.com/online/progeny_01.html
> -- 
> Alex / blowfish

I've been playing a little bit with a Linux kernel module by the
people at www.mosix.org. It is kind of like what this guy is talking
about. Basically, you start up a program on your computer and it will
in the right condition transparently dispatch that process to another
computer in your cluster to run. If that computer gets too busy, it
will push the process to another computer or back to you. Far as you
can tell, it is running on your computer though. Imagine if you had a
room full of workstations of which only a few are in use most of the
time! There are limitations on what kind of processing it will handle
but it is still amazing to watch the bar graph where the process jumps
from one system to another...

-- 
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Evan Panagiotopoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: getting the ip addess in a dhcp computer 
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 10:07:46 -0400

Is there a way I can do this? Once the computer has been booted I like
to know its address.

Thanks,

--
Evan Panagiotopoulos
Valley Central High School
Montgomery, NY
Phone (914) 457-3122
�


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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Frisbie problem with SuSE 6.4
Date: 23 Jul 2000 20:55:07 -0500

I have a few frisbie problems with SuSE 6.4 while running cdwriter programs under KDE.
xcdroast roasted a couple CDs for me and gcombust a couple as well. 

I first burned some CDs with xcdroast which came with SuSE 6.4 with the previous 
version of cdrecord.
After a couple fribies I got pissed and uninstalled cdrecord and mkisofs to install 
the latest version
of cdrecord that gcombust insist on having.

I had previously used gcombust with mandrake 7.0 so I knew it work OK. I did recall 
having the same
fribie problem with xcdroast under SuSE 6.3 so I didn't think that there was any other 
reason to think
that xcdroast wasn't the problem.

Since gcombust worked perfectly previously I installed and went on to make an image 
and then proceeded
to burn the CD. When trying to mount the CD I get an error so I figured I must have 
goofed to I double check
the image. I could mount it must have been a bad CD I thought. I burn another one. 
Same error. I boot on
winblows to see if it might be my cdrom not readable on Linux or something. On 
winblows 98 I see on file
with a .CDA extension if I recall right.

I then rebooted to sanity (Linux) and use the following line on the console

cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,0 -data SuSE_updates.iso     

I worked like a charm.

What the heck is wrong under KDE?

I have a PC with a 550Mhz K6, 128 M ram,  a voodo 3 card and 19 inch Compaq monitor

22G of hard disk space for Linux (2 G for winblows)


The next lines show what the System sees. I have only one cdrom drive.

On boot I get this :

=====================================================================================

scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
scsi : 1 host.
  Vendor: MEMOREX   Model: CD-RW4224         Rev: 1.37
  Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
  Vendor: MEMOREX   Model: CD-RW4224         Rev: 1.37
  Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr1 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 1
  Vendor: MEMOREX   Model: CD-RW4224         Rev: 1.37
  Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr2 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 2
  Vendor: MEMOREX   Model: CD-RW4224         Rev: 1.37
  Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr3 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 3
  Vendor: MEMOREX   Model: CD-RW4224         Rev: 1.37
  Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr4 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 4
  Vendor: MEMOREX   Model: CD-RW4224         Rev: 1.37
  Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr5 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 5
  Vendor: MEMOREX   Model: CD-RW4224         Rev: 1.37
  Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr6 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 6
  Vendor: MEMOREX   Model: CD-RW4224         Rev: 1.37
  Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr7 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 7
scsi : detected 8 SCSI generics 8 SCSI cdroms total.
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.11
sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
sr2: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
sr3: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
sr4: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
sr5: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
sr6: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
sr7: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray      

=====================================================================================
root@michel:/home/michel > cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord 1.9 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 J�rg Schilling
Linux sg driver version: 2.1.38
Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
scsibus0:
        0,0,0     0) 'MEMOREX ' 'CD-RW4224       ' '1.37' Removable CD-ROM
        0,1,0     1) *
        0,2,0     2) *
        0,3,0     3) *
        0,4,0     4) *
        0,5,0     5) *
        0,6,0     6) *
        0,7,0     7) *      

                                                                             
                                      
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From: "Antony Mak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Keymap Problem
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:51:23 +0800

Hi all,
    My company have a serveral unix boxes such as Suse, FreeBSD, AIX,
Solaris .... etc. We are using a simple telnet program to access this
server. But I have found that the keymap of each server (diff. OS) are
different even I specifiy the telnet program using as "vt220". Because of
this, I need to manually type in the function key keymap or go to the
console. Can anyone tell me where is the keymap file in unix and how to map
it to telnet program (e.g. win98-telnet) correctly?
Thanks in advance

Antony




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: Can't find installed
Date: 24 Jul 2000 01:45:39 GMT

Alex Chudnovsky ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ A. B. wrote:

<snip>
[ Nothing  should actually happen  - KAppFinder finds only the applications 
[ it knows about.  Which version of RealPlayer did you install ? RealPlayer 7 
[ beta is supposed to auto-configure itself and to add itself to the KDE 
[ menu,  if you install it via RPM. At least, this is what it did on this 
[ very computer.

Did the same thing on mine, mate, can u believe it's on the menu??

For a second I thought I was back in Winblows...eerie...

--
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Registered linux user no. 164098  +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
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