Linux-Misc Digest #257, Volume #20               Wed, 19 May 99 00:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: URGENT: How to download Red Hat 6??? (brian moore)
  Syquest (MIke borden)
  Re: creating RH 6.0 CD - Part II (Lamarque Vieira Souza)
  Re: Modem Redialing? (Jan Panteltje)
  Re: AutoInstall is for experts, not beginners!!! (Gilles Pelletier)
  RedHat Linux 5.2 Deluxe Operating System ("Andrew Meyer")
  Kernel 2.3.2 won't print ("Gary S. Mackay")
  Re: FTP with Resume feature? (Bill Unruh)
  old elvis mouse behavior lost?  Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page ("Cameron Spitzer")
  procinfo-rhcn-17 for Red Hat 5.2 and 6.0 (James Bourne)
  Re: Some Common Questions ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: NT the best web platform? (mlw)
  Silly Question (John Hong)
  Re: DDS-3 DAT drive (Chris Mauritz)
  Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (was: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?) 
(Michael Powe)
  Re: ATI and X Server problem ("Larry Fly")
  Re: Linux for Amiga A1200? (Troy Otter)
  Re: X on Dell Latitude with new neomagic chip (Owen Brotherwood)
  Re: NT the best web platform? (Sam E. Trenholme)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: URGENT: How to download Red Hat 6???
Date: 18 May 1999 05:14:24 GMT

On Tue, 18 May 1999 04:34:19 GMT, 
 Kelson Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey! Anyone downloads RedHat 6 from its ftp site?
> What do you use to download it?
> I'm using cuteFTP and it keeps resolving those symbolic links and keep
> repeating downloading the same files a couple times!!!
> Eg. 'cat' is a link in usr/bin, but it keeps resolving its location and
> download the real 'cat' program!!
> Can anyone help me?? Thanks

Yes: either download the iso9660 image or spend the $2 on a CD.

-- 
Brian Moore                       | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     |  a cockroach, except that the cockroach
      Usenet Vandal               |  is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.                 Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster

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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 00:13:29 -0500
From: MIke borden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.so.linux,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Syquest

does anyone know how to actually get the syquest to work. I have
compiled it into the kernel. I now just need to know how to mount it and
get the driver to work. It would be easy if I only had one device on the
parellel port but I also have a printer.

Thanks.


Mike Borden

P.S. Do not send email to the address. That is not my email account.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lamarque Vieira Souza)
Subject: Re: creating RH 6.0 CD - Part II
Date: 19 May 1999 01:19:37 GMT

Bob Cunius ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
:     When i created the iso file from mkisofs i typed in the following
: command line:
:     mkisofs -o ./redhat.iso -a -r -T /downloads/redhat6.0/i386

--

        I used this to create my boot CD and it worked:
mkisofs -D -b images/boot.img -l -L -o /mnt/piaba/linux/Hedwig.iso -r -T -V 
"RedHat-6.0" /mnt/piaba/linux

        The -D option allow more than 32 caracters in a path name, withou this
option some files will be missing in the iso image.
        
        By
        
        [8-)'s 

                      "Dalay Lama"rque Vieira Souza
                     Computer Science Student at UFMG
                           Minas Gerais - Brasil
                           [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                           Tel: +55-31-448-7661

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Panteltje)
Subject: Re: Modem Redialing?
Date: Tue, 18 May 99 20:31:26 GMT

>Is there an easy way to get a modem to redial on, say,
>a busy signal using the usual pppd and chat scripts?
>Thanks kindly,
>
>  Jason
>
>
It is simple:
just add the statement 'persist' to the chat script.
See man pppd.
Note that it will persist for ever, unless you kill it.
Also your modem may have a build in delay on busy (mine Etech bullet has),
so it may refuse a couple of times before it will redial.
Think some telcos require this.
If anyone knows how to disable this (which S register?), ?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gilles Pelletier)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: AutoInstall is for experts, not beginners!!!
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 02:45:25 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Damerell) �crivait/wrote:

>Debian installations tend to talk back to you. "I have created the file
>/etc/foobar", that kind of thing. There hasn't been the same effort to
>hide the details as with the commercial distributions.

I can imagine the flash in the pan on the screen. Gee, I must be
getting old! Does anybody here remember a concept known as "learn as
you go"? Kind of after the installation of the kernel, you check to
see what's in /dev. Then you explain you need to specify a directory
as a mounting point. You "mkdir /usr" and mount hda2 there. 

Then... whatever! But you go slowly and you let the brain learn form
the fingers.

>>They do seem to be lagging way behind the others distros though. They
>>say they want to be sure their distribution is rock steady but I
>>wonder how their "potato" would stand against Redhat's 6.0 or Suse's
>>6.1 at the present time.
>
>I'm not sure what you mean here; I hope you aren't just a victim of
>version number dicksizing. 

No. I don't care about the version numbers but about the kernel and
librairies installed.

A friend told me yesterday that Debian's 2.1 has been on freeze since
November and that it is probably as stable as Redhat 6.0 by now...
though it might not offer as many, how should I put it... novelties.

>From an �outside� observer's pov, it does seem that the 2.2 kernel
should be due pretty soon now. Can we agree on this or do you figure
it could be out only next september ;-)

>Debian are well ahead in terms of the quantity
>of software that forms the distribution; about a factor of 3 more than Red
>Hat. 

"Factor of 3"?  I've got a hard time evaluating this.

GP


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From: "Andrew Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.devel,linux.redhat.development,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: RedHat Linux 5.2 Deluxe Operating System
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 21:21:53 -0500

I am a newbie to the Linux/unix envrionment and interested in becoming more
knowledgeable.  But lately for some reason whenenver I install a copy of
RedHat's Linux 5.2 Deluxe OS during the install it wants me to specify the
types of drives or something like that for the partitions.  If you know
anything about this then please e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  What are
the specific drive names?  Also what is the command for mounting a CDROM
drive? and is there any GUI copmression utlility for Linux that is similar
to Winzip or Aladdin?  And please if you could help me with the C source
code compiling it would mean a great deal to me!!!

Thanks
Andrew Meyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]







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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:27:04 -0400
From: "Gary S. Mackay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel 2.3.2 won't print

Has anyone upgraded to the latest 2.3.2 kernel, and if so, did you have
any problems printing? I keep one or two previous kernels in lilo for
just this occasion. I downloaded the entire linux-2.3.2.tar.gz file,
configed, compiled, installed, etc. (been doing this since 2.0.35).
Everything came up even diald. When I try to print to either printer
(two ports), lpq shows both ports offline. Since both ports are broke,
I'm guessing it's maybe a rights issue? Any idea what changed? When I
boot back to the 2.2.9 kernel, all is well.

- Gary



-- 
Edison Information Technologies
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Milan, OH  44846-0554
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: FTP with Resume feature?
Date: 19 May 1999 02:32:34 GMT

In <7hs6gl$j50$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell) writes:

>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Mr. Fabulous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ed Hurst<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> I like ncftp.  I know that it's smarter than I am, and automates some
>>How is it on automatically reconnecting after timeouts or dial-in
>>disconnects??

>If you run in command line mode, there are options to control the
>retries.

I tried ncftp and it had one peculiar feature which really messed me up.
I am used to ftpp, if it meets a link, going ahead and resolving that
link. ncftp on the other hand, in its recursive download anyway, would
simply install the link on my machine ( a relatively useless thing since
the file structure is not the same, and I was only downloading a part of
the remote filesystem, not all 10GB of it.)
Is there some way of getting ncftp to behave like a normal ftp and
actrually resolve the links it is downloading, instead of simply
installing a link on my system?

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From: "Cameron Spitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: old elvis mouse behavior lost?  Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page
Date: 18 May 1999 02:37:24 GMT

I was a big fan of elvis-1.8, mainly for its integration of 
"mouse-click" into the cursor-motion commands.
(When TERM=xterm, anyway.)
But Steve removed that great feature in elvis-2.0, and I find
elvis-1.8 no longer builds and runs in the modern libraries.
(Elvis-2 creates its own windows under X, which is no good when
your X surface is on the wrong end of a modem line from where
elvis is running.)

I see "mouse support" in vim's feature list, but it seems
equally dependent on X.  Am I reading it wrong?
Has the greatest vi extension ever been sacrificed to pretty GUIs?
Is there any modern vi clone that uses the mouse in an xterm
the way elvis-1.8 did?

Cameron


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Darren Greer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>-->ok, maybe not officially.
>Heh....well there goes your argument :)
>
>btw, have you used the vi (and I mean _used_, not looked at, or played
>with)?  What dont you like?
>
>Darren
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Bourne)
Subject: procinfo-rhcn-17 for Red Hat 5.2 and 6.0
Date: 18 May 1999 22:14:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

We have posted the i386.rpm, src.rpm, and patches on our WWW site at
http://www.affinity-systems.ab.ca/software/ for procinfo-rhcn-17.  These
should work on Red Hat 5.0, 5.1, 5.2, and 6.0 but were compiled under Red
Hat 5.2 and kernel 2.2.9.

procinfo is a package to allow you to get useful information
from /proc.  /proc is the kernel filesystem.  This is a place
you can go to acquire information from your running kernel.

Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Here is information on the package:
cafe:bash# rpm -qi procinfo-rhcn
Name        : procinfo-rhcn            Distribution: Red Hat Contrib|Net
Version     : 17                       Vendor: Affinity Systems Inc.
Release     : 1                        Build Date: Tue May 18 15:56:20 1999
Install date: Tue May 18 15:57:22 1999 Build Host: cafe.affinity-systems.ab.ca
Group       : Utilities/System         Source RPM: procinfo-rhcn-17-1.src.rpm
Size        : 56292                    License: GPL
Packager    : Red Hat Contrib|Net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Summary     : proc filesystem information
Description :
procinfo is a package to allow you to get useful information
from /proc.  /proc is the kernel filesystem.  This is a place
you can go to acquire information from your running kernel.

and the changelog:
cafe:bash# rpm -q --changelog procinfo-rhcn
* Tue May 18 1999 James Bourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

- updated to version 17

* Mon Feb 01 1999 James Bourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

- updated to version 16 (see CHANGES file)
- added ALL documentation as distributed.
- compiled against 2.2.1 headers

* Fri Nov 20 1998 Michael K. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

- updated to version 15 to fix bugzilla 70.

* Fri Oct 02 1998 Jeff Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

- calculate time per-cent on non-{alpha,i386} correctly.

* Thu Sep 10 1998 Cristian Gafton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

- upgraded to version 14
- fixed the spec file



Regards,
Jim



-- 
James Bourne                  | Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Affinity Systems Inc.         | WWW: http://www.affinity-systems.ab.ca
Everything Unix               | Linux:  The choice of a GNU generation
======================================================================
Unix System Administration, System programming, Network Administration

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,intel.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Some Common Questions
Date: 18 May 1999 19:15:16 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In comp.os.linux.setup Curt Corum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
% Does anybody out there know the answer to what I'm assuming are some
% common questions?

% Netscape - how to get rid of the "bookmarks changed on disk" window that
% seems to keep coming up every few minutes?

I know the answer to this one.  It comes from pulling up two netscape
windows at the same time.  Example: If you wanted another netscape you
clicked on the netscape button on your menu to bring it up.  That is
why you get the little popup saying your book marks have changed.
If you need another netscape window, go up to "File" in the upper
left corner of your netscape, then new and then communicator.  Your
popups are over.  If you press alt-n on your netscape window it will
also do the same thing, spawning and new netscape window.  

% RealPlayer5.0 - how to get it to work from a user account, I'm assuming
% there must be some file permission problems? I't works fine (through a
% firewall even) from my root account?

I don't know what your problem is here.  I think a little detail would
help.  Does it not work from Netscape, from the command line, can you
access the test "welcome.ra" as a user?  When doesn't it work?

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To send personal E-mail delete blackhole.

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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 02:44:22 +0000

This is something I am struggling with. I make my living giving advice
and developing software.

There seems to be two schools of thought, neither one by the way is
absolutely right.

(1) Benchmarks tell the story.
Benchmarks like statistics are mostly lies. Except for a few ad-hoc
tests and government sponsored studies, all benchmarks have an
objective. Even an independent organization usually has an agenda. This
is not right or wrong, it just is. I am not trying to do the sour grapes
thing, perhaps the test was fair, but, are we sure that was what it
tested, was what is important. I did a fairly ad-hoc test of Windows NT
and Linux using Samba as a file server. People freaked out about all the
issues of what is or is not fair. It doesn't matter. For my application
my test was adequate for my purposes. 

Benchmarks are important as a way of understanding the behavior of a
system. In an application like a web server, this is VERY difficult
because the performance depends very much on the add-on component being
used in the test. They tested a secure server, they were not testing
Apache, they were testing apache and the secure socket system. As one
can see from the charts, it is clearly a reflection of the SSL layer.

Again, benchmarks are not without value, but they must, in some way,
reflect your application or they are meaningless. If we were talking
cars, one can argue 0-60 all they want, but if you are in a long race,
you need top speed, not acceleration.

(2) Benchmarks mean nothing.
It is easy to disregard benchmarks and always go by the seat of your
pants. You will never get the results of a well done benchmark because
to be a benchmark it must be controlled and meaningful. Under normal
use, such conditions do not exist and therefor the benchmark is
inaccurate.

Without any meaningful understanding of the theoretical response of a
system, it is impossible to gauge whether or not something is working
correctly and it is impossible to evaluate various systems.



Either way, (1) or (2), benchmarks only tell you about precisely what
was tested. Nothing more. It is up to you, the consumer to decide what
will work in your application.

In the test quoted, I would like to see it without SSL. I can easily
believe that the SSL layer works great with NT, but I doubt normal
disk->net performance is better, and that is where the majority of your
time is spent.


-- 
Mohawk Software
Windows 95, Windows NT, UNIX, Linux. Applications, drivers, support. 
Take the Mohawk Software Computer Survey at: www.mohawksoft.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hong)
Subject: Silly Question
Date: 19 May 1999 02:43:47 GMT

        Which one of the dist's is the best at upgrading?  Like, if you 
have RedHat 5.1 on and then get 6.0, is it simply smooth sailing or is it 
too much trouble?  I've seen the upgrade option on the Redhat install 
process, this is why I'm asking.  Or, does such a thing exist since 
changes happen so often?  I particularly like SuSE, second for me would 
be Redhat, and third is everything else.



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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
From: Chris Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DDS-3 DAT drive
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 02:22:48 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chris Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>What's the secret to getting a DDS-3 DAT drive to work with linux?
>>I've tried reading/writing tapes with Redhat 5.2 and Redhat 6.0 
>>using an HP and a Seagate drive without success.
>>
>>When I try to read/write tapes, I get:
>>
>>tape read error:  Input/output error
>>
>>I've compiled SCSI tape support into the kernel (tried both 2.0.36 and
>>2.2.9) and made sure the device files (/dev/nst0 /dev/st0) exist.

> Check the boot time messages (dmesg); does anything acknowledge the
> existence of the tape drive?  Is your SCSI controller recognized?
> Any chance of a cabling/termination error?

Yup, the drive is recognized.  I can even do an mt -f /dev/st0 offline
to eject the tape.  Termination seems fine.  It seems like some sort of
driver issue, but I can't for the life of me figure out what it is.  I
used a number of DDS-2 drives with Redhat 5.0 and 5.2 without incident
so this is rather confusing.

C
-- 
Christopher Mauritz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (was: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?)
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 17 May 1999 20:58:37 -0700

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>>>>> "John" == John S Dyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    John> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Powe
    John> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    >>>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Mutsaers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Peter> FreeBSD's more conservative and ordered approach used to
    Peter> make its slower than Linux, but I think that Linux's
    Peter> relative chaos is beginning to reverse this. It would be
    Peter> good for Linux to also start using a single CVS tree with a
    Peter> -current and -stable branch and a core team instead of a
    Peter> single individual that needs to approve everything.

    >>  Well, I've been reading FreeBSD'ers predictions of linux's
    >> imminent demise for a year and a half.  We seem to be
    >> progressing in the market while FBSD just hangs around where
    >> it's always been.

    >> Linux development is driven by user demand.

    John> FreeBSD is driven by user demand (partially.)

    >>  FBSD development is driven by the agenda of its development
    >> team.

    John> FreeBSD development is driven by the agenda of the
    John> development team (partially.)

    >>  Linux development is oriented toward the individual user.

    John> There is no centralized Linux-based OS development
    John> organization actually controlling Linux kernel based OS

Correct.  That means that it is available in a variety of formats,
thereby servicing a larger audience.  When FBSD blew up my system
during an attempted install, I had one option -- try linux.  When
Really Horrible 5.1 blew up my system the same way, I went to
Slackware and got right back up.

    John> distributions.  The Linux kernel part is controlled by a
    John> single czar.  It is by that czar's whims that features get
    John> included (e.g. delayed inclusion of the raw disk mechanisms,
    John> which are quite advantageous for commercial database work.)
    John> If anything, Linux development is much more dependent on
    John> BOTH the whims of an individual kernel hacker AND the
    John> various somewhat incompatible distributions.  This makes
    John> Linux fundamentally much more fragile from a project
    John> standpoint.

FBSD is dependent on the whims of a committee.  Yeah, that's an
improvement.  "Fundamentally more fragile" is actually meaningless.
You can be the strongest OS on the block and if nobody knows it -- who
cares?

    >>  FBSD development is oriented toward the business user.

    John> FreeBSD development is oriented towards the users who
    John> contribute, either in the sense of positive criticism, or
    John> code contribution.  Alot of FreeBSD work is embedded, alot
    John> is inter-networking, and some is office-networking.

Which is a roundabout way of saying it's really a "hacker's OS" -- but
I don't actually think that's true.

    >>  I don't know what Linus' plans are, but I surely do hope he
    >> does not adopt the `ignore the individual user' philosophy of
    >> FBSD.

    John> Linus is the czar of the kernel only.  His decisions don't
    John> necessarily show sensitivity to the needs of at least one
    John> large class of users (out of psuedo-asthetic reasoning.)
    John> Give me a *competent* committee with a structured
    John> organization for an entire OS, over a single kernel hacker's
    John> control -- anyday.

Right, a committee of which you happen to be a member.  Your
implication that Linus is incompetent is stupid on the face of it.
But, I know it's just your usual trolling.

    John> Linux seems to be mostly (apparently) anti-Microsoft driven,
    John> and something like that based upon hate and revolution seems
    John> to be very uncaring to the userbase.  GPL is also (in
    John> itself) a hate filled document with an agenda that doesn't
    John> effectively economically support the developers of code
    John> (including those who add to the code) themselves.  In order
    John> for this revolution to survive, it needs people
    John> inexperienced in life (the trekkie set) to promulgate FUD
    John> against all other alternatives.  Those using and
    John> manipulating that set of individuals, get to profit from
    John> (and stay above) the mess that the hacker revolt causes
    John> (both in a macro sense, and in the micro sense.)  (The micro
    John> sense being the waste of otherwise brilliant programmers
    John> spending their potentially profitable time on GPLed works.)

I actually have nothing against FBSD.  It happens not to be my OS.
And I think a lot of so-called linux advocates are immature morons.
But I also think that most of the FBSD users I've encountered -- in
magazines and online -- are smug Silicon Valley yuppies whose class
prejudice is most clearly brought out when they come into contact with
a T-shirted linux user.  Underneath it all, I suspect that you all
can't really understand why your "superior" OS is still in the closet
while the "inferior" OS, linux, is getting all the headlines.  In
large part, I think that's because you're just too shirty to get out
and associate with the "masses."

mp

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From: "Larry Fly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: ATI and X Server problem
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 21:52:41 -0500

Bravo!

I agree, Caldera really worked for me too...


Larry Fly

Jerry Moore wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I have the ATI All-In-Worder Pro Mach64 and probably invested close to
>50 hours trying to get RH5.2 to recognize this card.  Last night I gave
>up and purchased Caldera Open Linux 2.2.  The auto-probe in this
>software works great, it allows you to "test" your video settings before
>completing setup and the whole process was finished in under 30 minutes.
>
>JPC wrote:
>>
>> I�m having a serious problem:
>> I have a PC with an ATI RageII-chipset Mach64GT, 4Mb card and a 15"
>> monitor.
>> I�m using RH 5.2 Linux.
>>
>> Linux install OK.
>>
>> But when trying to launch XWindow problems come.
>> When trying to autoprobe system crashed.
>> When running XF86Setup I have already tried various chipsets: Mach 64,
>> Mach 64+, Mach84GT, generic VGA... None of them seemed to work - giving
>> an error: can�t connect to XServer.
>> Tried also several combinations with monitor parameters - even the
>> lowest. Nothing.
>>
>> Anyone having same problem?
>> Can someone please enlighten me on how overcome this situation?
>>
>> Many many thanks



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From: Troy Otter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux for Amiga A1200?
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:40:19 +0800

You can try Redhat's ftp site (or one of the mirror sites). There is set
of rpm's for M68k Linux (not officially supported though). Conversely,
you could try Schatztruhe

http://www.schatztruhe.de/softe/linux.html

They distribute an unofficial Redhat 5.1 port on CD for the Amiga. I got
that version through my local Amiga supplier here in Western Australia.
A few minor gliches with some packages, but on the whole, the
distribution works fine on my A1200.


Dave wrote:

> So is there a release/port of Linux I can download and run on an
> Amiga1200 with a 500 mg hard drive?
> I'm keen to try.
> MAil me
> Thanks
> Dave

--
Troy Otter
EMAIL: ottertm at vianet.net.au



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From: Owen Brotherwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X on Dell Latitude with new neomagic chip
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:11:09 +0200

1024x768 works
- at least with RH6.0: in the X configurater, choose neomagic chip set
and LCD  1024x768 monitor, no probes/2 Mbyte and 16 bit

I presume you don't have sound, I keep looking through the groups for
info to if anybody has done it yet.

Andreas Kaempf wrote:

> Does anyone have linux up and running on a Dell Latitude 366 laptop?
>
> Dell is using a new neomagic chip and XFree does not go to 1024x768
> with this latest chip.
>
> Has anyone been able to get this latest chip to work with XFree 3.3.1
>
> The chip is neomagic magicmedia 256AV.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> cheers,
> andreas


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: 18 May 1999 20:23:42 -0700

>  Did any of your guys look at the webbechmark posted by PC
>magazine?Below is the URL
>http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/stories/reviews/0,6755,2256617,00.html

I have a web page up about this very article:

        http://linux.samiam.org/zdnet.error.html

Basically, it combined their subjective impressions (we like Windows, so
the Windows web server is better for us) with some rather
poorly-done-tests (we don't know how to perform mod_perl, so we will just
use CGI on Linux).

A careful look at the graphs reveals that Apache has identical CGI
performance as IIS.  It is only when IIS uses ISAPI (Apache equivalent:
mod_perl, or just add the needed C code to the web server) that they get
better dynamic performance.

The _real_ dynamic test results: Having the dynamic functions loaded as
shared libraries or modules is much faster than the fork-then-exec model
of CGI. 

With Linux, the *only* web server they tested for static content is
Apache.  Apache is designed to be stable, reliable, and extensible.  It is
fast enough to saturate a T1 or T3 with static content on any desktop
machine sold today.  It was _not_ designed to do well on specialized
benchmarks which almost never have any real-world meaning. 

If you want an ultra-fast free server for Linux that can knock the socks
off of IIS in this kind of benchmark, thttpd is available.  Look here for
some benchmarks: 

        http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/benchmarks.html

(As a note, these benchmarks load one page over and over, instead of a
large mix of pages.  Then again, ZDnet's cgi tests loaded one page over
and over.)

In conclusion, use the right tool for your needs.  Always remember that
ZDnet writes biased articles geared towards people who prefer a Microsoft
solution.

If you like Windows, and do not mind getting "locked in" to a Microsoft
solution, IIS is a fine web server.  If you prefer the freedom,
reliability and flexibility of Apache, Apache is a fine web server.  If
you want raw "drag-racing" performance, or need bandwidth throttling on a
Unix system [1], the free (liberty) thttpd is the way to go.  If you want
the fastest web server money can buy, Zeus (http://www.zeus.co.uk) is the
way to go. 

- Sam

[1] There is a mod_throttle out there for Apache 1.3.x, made by a third
    party


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