Linux-Misc Digest #257, Volume #24 Tue, 25 Apr 00 11:13:25 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux Problem (Lew Pitcher)
Re: linux programs, tools and functionality for windows? (Bruce Schultz)
Re: Help installing "d" disk series for Slackware (Lew Pitcher)
Re: Starting xfs (David Rolfe)
Re: Linux any good for company networks? (Lew Pitcher)
Re: Chinese torture with my disk (Daniel de Rauglaudre)
Re: partitions (YamYam)
Re: core dumps (or the lack of them) (YamYam)
Oracle8i for Red Hat Linux (Garel)
How to adjust the full screen of x windows (Garel)
Re: comparsions between ipmasq firewall and wingate (Robie Basak)
Re: I think I have been HACKED!!! ("Gene Heskett")
Re: Acrobat PDF files (Stewart C. Russell)
Re: DBF Databases for Linux? (Mark Wilden)
mounting logical partitions ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Acrobat PDF files (Jonathan Buzzard)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("James A. Robertson")
fetchmail probs? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Mandrake normal vs development vs server mode ? (John Robson)
Re: I think I have been HACKED!!! ("Gene Heskett")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: Linux Problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:20:22 GMT
On Fri, 21 Apr 2000 21:06:35 +0800, Lim Kian Tee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Thank you very much for your advice. I tried to access the /etc/XF86Config
>file from root directory but I got a message: - "Permission denied".
Are you trying this as 'root'? If so, then something is indeed fouled
up, as root shouldn't get 'permission denied' on this. If you aren't
trying to edit as root, either login as root or 'su' to root and edit
the file.
> I also
>ran the /usr/X11R6/bin/Xconfigurator and tried many different resolutions for
>my monitor but I still end up with the 'Big' image and 'cannot scroll' screen.
>My VGA card is a Diamond Viper 770 Ultra with 32MB memory and my monitor is a
>17" Samtron 75E. Any further advice would be very much appreciated.
I've never used Xconfigurator. Perhaps someone else here has a
suggestion. Have you asked in comp.os.linux.x ?
>Kian Tee
>
>Lew Pitcher wrote:
>
>> Lim Kian Tee wrote:
>> >
>> > My problem started like this: -
>> > 1. I used partition magic in win98 to establish an extended dos partion
>> > of about 6.4 gigabyte and then two logical partitions of 5.4gigabyte and
>> > 1.0 gigabyte. I have drives C, D, and E and my CDROM is drive F.
>> >
>> > 2. I used drive E: for data storage, drive C for win98 and as for drive
>> > D, I installed Linux Redhat 6.0.
>> >
>> > 3. After successfully installing Redhat, I find that the image in my
>> > Linux screen is too big for Linux to be of any use. I cannot see what's
>> > on the desktop and I cannot scroll.
>>
>> This problem is easily solvable with some editing of the
>> /etc/XF86Config file. A temporary solution that usually works
>> (assuming RedHat set things up properly) is to press the <ctrl> <alt>
>> and <numeric-keypad-plus> keys all at once. This should cycle you to
>> the next higher resolution. Keep going until you either get a
>> resolution that you like or you cycle back to the lowest resolution.
>> To back up through the resolutions, press <ctrl> <alt> and
>> <numeric-keypad-minus>.
>>
>> > 4. I have two choices: a) to remove Linux and reclaim drive D for win98,
>> > b) solve the Linux display problem.
>>
>> Right.
>>
>> > 5. I decided on option 'a', ie to remove Linux because I am a newbie to
>> > Linux and I figured it is beyond me to hack away my Linux problem.
>>
>> With our help, it becomes a lot easier ;-)
>>
>> > 6. I restarted my system and Lilo boot into win98. I noticed that my
>> > drive E has become drive D and the previous drive D has disappeared.
>> > Thinking that partition magic will be able to 'see' the previous drive D
>> > and hence I could remove the Linux, I proceeded to start partition
>> > magic.
>>
>> You installed Linux on the partition that was MSWindows drive D:.
>> However, the install changed the partition type (this _is_ correct and
>> necessary), so MSWindows no longer recognizes that partition as one of
>> its own. MSWindows ignores the partition, and so assigns it's
>> previously used drive letter (D:) to the next MSWindows partition on
>> the drive. Thus your D: dissappeared and your E: changed to D:. If
>> you truely want to get rid of Linux, use the Linux fdisk command to
>> change the partition type back to MSDOS (MSWindows). When you start
>> MSWindows next, MSWindows will recognize the partition and assign it
>> it's previous drive letter. If you select the partition from "My
>> Computer", then MSWindows will recognize that it is not MSDOS
>> formatted, and ask if you want it formatted for MSWindows use. You
>> choose what you want to do from that point onward.
>>
>> > 7. To my horror, I got an 'error 114' message and partion magic failed
>> > to start up.
>>
>> Sorry, but I cant help here. I don't use Partition Magic
>>
>> > 8. I then used my win98 start up disk to boot up and tried to start
>> > win98 fdisk.exe but the system hanged.
>>
>> Sorry, but something beyond my immediate abilities has fouled up.
>>
>> > Please advice me on what I should do next.
>>
>> Call Microsoft Technical Support? The Microsoft website has (incorrect
>> and incomplete) instructions on how to remove Linux from your
>> MSWindows system.
>>
>> > Kian Tee
>>
>> --
>> Lew Pitcher
>>
>> Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
>
Lew Pitcher
System Consultant
Toronto Dominion Financial Group
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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Subject: Re: linux programs, tools and functionality for windows?
From: Bruce Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 23 Apr 2000 11:25:23 -0500
Ray Riedel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I think emacs has a windows version.
>
> SAP User wrote:
>
> > Are there any sites of information about programs for windows which provide
> > some of the functionality of a nice linux system?
> >
> > For example:
> > * bash
> > * emacs
Both emacs and xemacs have precompiled binaries that run under
windows. Also, check out the cygwin gnu utilities by Cygnus (I
believe they've been bought out or taken over by someone else, but the
gnu utilities are still available on their website. They include
bash and a subset of the standard gnu unix-like commands (ls, ps, df,
awk, etc.) They're necessarily a bit cludgy in some respects, but
they work reasonably well. If you get the development package you can
get a version of gcc and associated utilities as well.
--
Bruce Schultz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: Help installing "d" disk series for Slackware
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:22:40 GMT
On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:11:12 +0100, "Peter Hutchison"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8dksmo$2iq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Dear group,
>>
>> I just installed Slackware with all the basic utilities and I now want
>> to install the "d" development tools disk. As you know, it has make,
>> perl, compilers, etc.
>>
>> I am in this catch-22 after much reading and surfing:
>>
>> I downloaded the "d" disk files to my HD.
>> I cannot seem to install anything because I don't have "make" or any
>> "compilers". My question is, how do I install "make" and a C compiler
>> without having "make" and a C compiler. I read ALL the INSTALLs and
>> READMEs. Please help. Do I need to get a precompiled binary of a
>> compiler to do the install ??
The 'D' series should only need be installed using PKGTOOL or gunzip
and tar. IIRC, the D series doesn't require you to recompile anything,
so you don't need a working compiler or make.
>> Please don't flame me, I'm new at this and I don't go running to
>> newsgroups unless I've done my own research !
>> thanks in advance,
>
>Make and C compiler in Linux is usually GCC (GNC C Compiler), you need to
>install the binaries to have access to them. You will only need them if you
>only
>have access to source files to make them into binaries.
>Check for files on the CD such as:
>
>ecgs-1.1.2-12.i386.rpm
>ecgs-c++-1.1.2-12.i386.rpm
>
>Should help to get C/C++ compiler installed
>
>Peter
>
>
Lew Pitcher
System Consultant
Toronto Dominion Financial Group
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: David Rolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Starting xfs
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:20:49 +0000
Hal Burgiss wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 22:49:15 +0000, David Rolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >So ... I said let's get true type fonts working! I have redhat 6.0 so
> >xfs is supposed to support it! And I have it working .... But not with
> >xfs the way it starts on boot. If I do a ps -ax |grep xfs, it is there
> >alright but there is no info about a port number. I have the line:
> >FontPath "unix/:-1" in /etc/X11/XF86Config. If I try to startx it
> >fails complaining about the font path and having no fixed font. If,
> >however, I su to root and issue:
> > xfs -config /etc/X11/fs/config -port 7100 & and then exit back to user
> >mode and THEN issue startx everybody is very happy. And if I do a ps -ax
> >|grep xfs, xfs shows up with a port. I pokked around and the code that
> >starts xfs at boot looks like:
> >
> >start)
> > echo -n "Starting X Font Server: "
> > rm -fr /tmp/.font-unix
> > daemon --check xfs su xfs -c xfs -s /bin/sh
> > touch /var/lock/subsys/xfs
> > echo
> > ;;
> >
> >Any thoughts on what is going on? As I said earlier, if I go through the
> >rather ugly procedure mentioned above everything works. Oh yea and
> >putting the command in .xinitrc does not work. I think root must execute
> >it.
>
> If it works as root and not as $USER, likely there is a permission
> problem on /tmp, or the filesystem is full to the point only root can
> write to it. RH has xfs starting as a non-root user.
>
> http://feenix.eyep.net/xstuff/xfs.html#trouble
>
> --
> Hal B
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --
OK, I went off and looked at /tmp. The permissions are fine. I created a file
and deleted it as a user. I did a df and the file system is not anywhere near
full (have a couple gigs free). I think the problem must be in the line
daemon --check xfs su xfs -c xfs -s /bin/sh
except that I do not know enough about bash to parse what it is doing. I tried
to find docs on the daemon statement but nada. And what is that su doing? And
where are the -config and -port parameters and what is -c and -s all about?
They are most definitely not documented in the man pages. I appears to me that
xfs (just guessing here) is running in some "I am not listening to any g*ddamn
socket" mode and so if the unix:-1 thing is in XF86Free X barfs when it trys to
come up. In fact when I try to come up level 5 the system just hangs with a big
blank screen and it is single user time. Maybe this is happening to me because
when I originally installed Redhat I had to manually add my graphics device
driver so Redhat configuration got snarfled.
And while I am grumbling ... even with true-type fonts things aren't too happy.
For some reason Netscape is showing them way small (as compared to the same
page on windoze) and of course the Linux word processors I have (I have them
all ... its a sickness ...) don't pick up the fonts so why bother? There is a
little voice telling me that I am a victim of the Adobe-Microsoft font wars and
if I want fonts in Linux get type1 fonts cause those true-type babies are the
Enemy! Oh well...
Thanks, Dave
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: Linux any good for company networks?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:29:48 GMT
On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:36:29 +0100, Richard Phillips
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>I'm wondering if Linux is capable in the area of company LANs? At work
>we have loads of PCs running Win95/98 and Novell software ties the whole
>thing into a network. Is Linux a viable alternative at present?
Certainly. There are many, high-profile companies that are using Linux
in just that manner. Linux can internetwork with Win95/98/NT/2000
"Client for Microsoft Networks" systems, Novell NDS and Bindary
systems and "Client for Novell Networks" systems, and TCP/IP systems.
Linux can act as a member of a MS WORKGROUP or DOMAIN, a MS DOMAIN
PDC, a member of a Novell group, or a Novell server, and can do all of
these things simultaneously.
>There is little chance of this happening, I'm just curious out of
>academic interest!
>Regards,
>Richard.
>
>
Lew Pitcher
System Consultant
Toronto Dominion Financial Group
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: Daniel de Rauglaudre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Chinese torture with my disk
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:29:05 +0000
Hello,
> > I have a Chinese torture with my disk. About every 10 seconds, it makes
> > a small noise that I would like to stop....
... snip...
>
> Are you running StarOffice? SO always did the same thing for me - it doesn't
> seem like a big deal, but it annoyed me so much I stopped using SO!
No. It seems to be a very low level behavior. The same thing happens
even when I boot in single user where almost no process is running.
Actually, sometimes it stops. But I found something doing it:
On a shell, I type "date".
The date is displayed.
a:
A few seconds later, I heard the crrrr on the disk.
I type "date" again.
The date is displayed: I look at it: 10 seconds more
go to a:
The fact that I type "date" makes the disk do a noise 10 seconds later.
Why? It is Mandrake 7 (Linux 2.2). In my previous installation (RedHat
5.2, Linux 2.0), it does not do that.
I generally notice that the disk is more often accessed when I am under
Mandrake 7 Linux 2.2, even in single user level.
--
Daniel de RAUGLAUDRE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://cristal.inria.fr/~ddr/
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From: YamYam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: partitions
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:30:04 GMT
Prem, u have to ask before u go that dangrouse way -formatting- unless u know what
u're doing.
Anyway, if u wanna remove lilo from ur harddisk (MBR, specifically), then u have to
make win9x startup disk and boot from it. Then, when u boot into dos from ur startup
disk, simply type:
fdisk /mbr
then press Enter, then reboot.
That's all.
But be carefull at the next time to think many times before formatting the harddisk.
-YamYam.
prem wrote:
>
> i installed red hat linux on my hard disk. now even a low level format
> does not delete lilo. i tried everything including repartitioning and low
> level formatting.
>
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From: YamYam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: core dumps (or the lack of them)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:30:05 GMT
Leonard Evens wrote:
>
> Stephen Charlton wrote:
> >
> > When I'm using most Linux distributions I'm given a core dump whenever
> > there's a segmentation fault.
> >
> > However when using Slackware 7.0 every time I get a segmentation fault I
> > don't get a core dump. Is there anything I need to change to produce
> > core files? I need these core files for the debugging of my applications.
>
> I don't know how Slackware is organized on this matter, but
> generally a program will produce a core dump if the owner
> of the corresponding process has permission to write in the
> directory where the core dump would appear. Also, the shell
> which starts the process may have limits set which affect
> the maximum size of a core dump. If this is set at zero or
> some very low number, no core dump will be produced. For
> bash, the appropriate shell command is
> ulimit -c N
Or if ur using csh u can use:
limit coredumpsize N #where N is an integer number (Max core file size)
And try to put the line "limit coredumpsize N" in the /<ur_directory>/.cshrc
Or when u're using the bash command type "ulimit -c N" in /<ur_directory>/.bashrc
or to make it global, put in /etc/bashrc (for bash command), or in the corresponding
csh file for csh command.
-YamYam.
> where N is the maximum size allowed for a core dump or the term
> unlimited.
> --
>
> Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
> Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Garel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Oracle8i for Red Hat Linux
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:30:05 GMT
How to install the Oracle8i for Red Hat Linux as I tried under x windows
runinstaller but it won't work. What the problem?
Please help
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From: Garel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to adjust the full screen of x windows
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:30:06 GMT
After I installed the monitor which I had a Philip brillance 15 inch and
using 800x600 16 colour and after that I found the 1/4 side is blank
on the right side. What the cause and how to use the full screen?
The screen squeezed and I can see everything but 1/4 blank.
I tried to play around with the adjustment buttons but it won't work.
I also tried the usr/X11R6/bin/xvidtune but after I adjuested and reboot it
went back to the same
How am I going to adjust it permanently. >
Pls Help.
Garel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: comparsions between ipmasq firewall and wingate
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24 Apr 2000 12:31:32 GMT
On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 22:43:36 GMT, Sean LeBlanc said:
>
>
>So if you weren't using squid, how would you go
>w/o a hard drive? Can a boot disk be made that
>has enough stuff on it to do ipmasq?
Yep. The linux router project already does this; although I would
prefer to set one up myself.
Sorry, can't remember the URL, but it should be quite easily
searchable.
Robie.
>
>
>Cheers,
>Sean
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak) writes:
>
>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:02:05 -0500, Henry Su said:
>> >[snip]
>> >
>> >so here again is the question:
>> >why should one prefer linux/ipmasq/squid over win/wingate?
>>
>> I think that a problem with this question is that many people here may
>> not know anything about wingate :-)
>>
>> The only thing I can think of, is that your computer can be an old 486
>> and handle an average net speed nicely, and does not need a keyboard,
>> monitor or even a graphics card (nor a hard drive). Can wingate double
>> as a firewall?
>>
>> Oh, if you're using squid, you'll most likely want a hard drive :-)
>>
>> Robie.
>> --
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Date: 24 Apr 2000 4:0:39 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I think I have been HACKED!!!
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Unrot13 this;
Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Julie Brandon;
JB> On 24 Apr 2000 00:50:15 +0100, C. Newport ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
>>Nuke everything, preferably buy a new disk drive and keep the old one
>>as evidence only.
JB> Unless you're looking to keep the evidence, what happened to good ol'
JB> reformatting?
Because in some locales, it could put the perp in the x-bar hotel for a
while, all expenses paid. Highly recommended.
Cheers, Gene
--
Gene Heskett, CET, UHK |Amiga A2k Zeus040, Linux @ 400mhz
Ch. Eng. @ WDTV-5 |This Space for rent
RC5-Moo! 350kkeys/sec, Seti@home 16 hrs a block
email gene underscore heskett at iolinc dot net
This messages reply content, but not any previously quoted material, is
� 2000 by Gene Heskett, all rights reserved.
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From: Stewart C. Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Acrobat PDF files
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 13:46:37 BST
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M Sweger) wrote:
>
>What about all the other variations such as .eps
eps is not PDF. It's just a form of PostScript with
some structuring restrictions.
You may need epstool to strip off binary previews from eps files
for ghostview/gv/mgv to feed the right data to Ghostscript.
>and the encrytped pdf stuff?
A patch for Ghostscript is available at
http://www.ozemail.com.au/%7Egeoffk/pdfencrypt/ -- it comes
up with this URL if you try to read an enctypted files without
it.
--
Stewart C. Russell, Kirkintilloch, Scotland - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Hang on... This is the real thing... The truth, my friend,
and nothing but the truth" - Mervyn Peake
http://homepages.enterprise.net/scruss/
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From: Mark Wilden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DBF Databases for Linux?
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 13:50:23 +0100
Hal Burgiss wrote:
>
> On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 20:57:57 +0100, Mark Wilden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hal Burgiss wrote:
> >>
> >> I can't give you specifics, but DBF is a rare bird on Linux/Unix.
> >> Everything is SQL.
> >
> >DBF is a file format. SQL is a query language. On Windows, Visual FoxPro
> >uses each, as can ODBC.
>
> And?
And...I was just correcting the implication that DBF and SQL are somehow
incompatible. 'Everything is SQL' is a valid generalisation for most
OSs--regardless of the file formats used.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mounting logical partitions
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:51:01 GMT
I have 4 Linux logical partitions on my /dev/hda
/dev/hda5 Linux native 15Mb
/dev/hda6 Linux native 690Mb
/dev/hda7 Swap Linux 120Mb
/dev/hda8 Linux Native 690 Mb
I have had some problems with xdm and Xserver and now I cannot login
the system
As I have also win98 I made a boot/rescue disk after founding a tool on
Tom's web site www.toms.net/rb/. Now I can run Linux on my PC but I'm
not able to access the Linux partition hda6.
Mounting the partition with
mount -t ext2 /dev/hda6 /mnt
gives problems.
What can I do? Do you know how to mount that logical partition?
I really appreciate your help.
Alberto
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Buzzard)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Acrobat PDF files
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 09:34:30 +0100
In article <8dvrk7$tei$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M Sweger) writes:
> What about all the other variations such as .eps and the encrytped pdf
> stuff?
Don't understand what you are on about with .eps they have nothing
whatsoever to do with .pdf files. Quite what a single image/page format
for embedding pictures in complete documents has to do with document
creation I have no idea.
Traditionaly the creation of encrypted pdf files on free systems has been
a problem due to US export laws. As a result I don't think that GhostScript
and pdflatex can create such files. A special patch is required for
GhostScript to be able to read encrypted .pdf files
Perhaps with recent relaxation of the US export laws future versions of
pdflatex and GhostScript will see better support of encrypted .pdf files.
JAB.
--
Jonathan A. Buzzard Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Northumberland, United Kingdom. Tel: +44(0)1661-832195
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From: "James A. Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 13:15:53 GMT
Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG ** wrote:
>
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kevin:
>
> |> Intel, Sun, IBM, Oracle, Cisco. These companies are as "evil" as
> |> Microsoft. They just don't get the same press.
>
> Intel's faced the federal courts before on these very same issues, as have
> IBM and others. They had some very negative press *at the time* but wisely
> concluded it was neither in their best interests, nor any consumers, to be
> as stupidly persistent about violating the Sherman Antitrust Act as MS. It
> is not some kind of Red Badge of Courage these monstrous egos sometimes in
> "charge" at these concerns can take to their cutthroat competitions. It is
> a sign they are acting very antisocially, and will be sanctioned for it. I
> don't think in the lastest episode Judge Jackson cares one iota for it, or
> has patience for the schoolyard excuse that "everybody does it" either.
>
> [Snip...]
>
> |> I don't know why people seem to feel so victimized by Microsoft then
> |> turn around and hand them money. And don't tell me you can't change
> |> things, that is just the victim mentality.
>
> Perhaps they don't have a *choice* about it? Until a couple of years ago I
> could not even walk into a store and have an MS-less system without making
> a very large deal out of it. For me and millions of others it's never been
> about the money alone; it's about choice. This is the point the MS crowd's
> not getting: there's a difference between free beer and free will. Victims
> in a civilized society turn to the law; anarchists take matters into their
> own hands. Which culture do you prefer?
It's also a sign that those companies decided to merely pay tribute to
Washington, while MS has decided to stand on principle. You don't agree
with that principle, but it <is> principle.
The government has no business intervening in the markets this way. It
also does no good when it does; Standard Oil had been eclipsed by the
time the case ended in 1912. MS is facing increased competition in
areas (Wireless) where it has little traction thus far. Let the market
work
>
> [Snip...]
>
> |> Microsoft has a duty to their shareholders.
>
> Nobody to my knowledge ever denied this. Judge Jackson also believes there
> is a larger duty to free markets generally as a matter of justice. If some
> shareholders don't like it, they need to own shares in more just companies
> or work *legally* to get the law changed more to their liking.
>
And the Appeals Court has disagreed. Interesting how the feds are
trying to bypass the Appeals Court, and how no one thinks that hokey...
And before you think I'm an MS drone, think again. I don't develop with
MS software, and my primary platform is Linux. I just don't trust
government. When faced with a choice between a Justice department that
has been involved in things like Waco, Ruby Ridge, and the Gonzalez case
on one side, and MS on the other, I think the choice is pretty clear.
> --
>
> Regards, Weird (Harold Stevens) * IMPORTANT EMAIL INFO FOLLOWS *
> Pardon the bogus email domain (dseg etc.) in place for spambots.
> Really it's (wyrd) at raytheon, dotted with com. DO NOT SPAM IT.
> Standard Disclaimer: These are my opinions not Raytheon Company.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: fetchmail probs?
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 13:23:59 GMT
Hi;
I'm trying to run fetchmail; I got the userid, protocol, all identified.
When I run the script, it asks for a password, then it seems to lock up
reading the first message. It's about 2290 bytes long, so it shouldn't take
15 minutes to download over a cablemodem. Sendmail is running.
I'm suspecting a problem with sendmail, but I'm hoping someone's seen this before
and can tell me "Oh, use Xandsuch an option" as sendmail is definitely *not*
my forte.
If you can respond to the newsgroup as, obviously, my email is somewhat
nonfunctional, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks for your time.
Doug O'Leary
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Douglas K. O'Leary
System Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Robson)
Subject: Mandrake normal vs development vs server mode ?
Date: 24 Apr 2000 13:36:44 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Robson)
On installation, Mandrake 7.0 gives a choice between installing the
"normal", "development" or "server" configuration.
Can someone gives a lowdown on what are the major differences of each
configuration mode ? What gets installed and what doesn't get installed ?
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Date: 24 Apr 2000 9:5:22 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I think I have been HACKED!!!
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Unrot13 this;
Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to JoeB ;
> Hello,
> He/She has deleted the bj.c file.
> However this is what I found again:
> telnet stmary-04.por.or.bbnow.net 1222
> telnet 34226.south-green.ohiou.edu 1133
> ftp 202.135.7.158
> I have since scrapped the mail server and have put in a NEW equipment.
> I have also modified /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny to allow and
> disallow certain servers. I am also logging all POP3 + SMTP calls.
> I need some pointers on IPCHAINS. Thanks.
Or, better yet, portsentry. It detects scans against your machine,
collects the scanners address, and adds it to /etc/hosts.deny on the
fly. I won't say its the ultimate armour, but one of my machines
running it now has quite a few entries in /etc/hosts.deny, and has
survived all attacks.
In the meantime, run whois against those addresses and report the attack
to the class c site owners asap.
[...]
Cheers, Gene
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Gene Heskett, CET, UHK |Amiga A2k Zeus040, Linux @ 400mhz
Ch. Eng. @ WDTV-5 |This Space for rent
RC5-Moo! 350kkeys/sec, Seti@home 16 hrs a block
email gene underscore heskett at iolinc dot net
This messages reply content, but not any previously quoted material, is
� 2000 by Gene Heskett, all rights reserved.
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