Linux-Misc Digest #257, Volume #25 Fri, 28 Jul 00 03:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Helix upgade trashed Sawfish (Steve Bougerolle)
Re: RedHat 6.0 Internet Connection Problem (gLiTcH)
Re: Operating systems for personal-computers? (joe b.)
How to run Disk Druid? (GL)
Re: who is responsible for the cache? (Grant Edwards)
Help with info (Max)
eth0 delaying initialization - why? (Elliott)
Re: Operating systems for personal-computers? ("Mark L. Kahnt")
Re: Download rate diminishes (Gordon Gilbert)
Listing all the files changed since... (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
stupid gnome compile! (Anh Lai)
Re: Install without floppy or CD? (Dave Brown)
Re: Listing all the files changed since... (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Re: eth0 delaying initialization - why? (Mike)
ALSA 0.5.8 and ESS1869 ("Grigory V. Manushkin")
hdparm settings reset on reboot? (Gordon Gilbert)
Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! (agent 01111000)
Re: where has the propaganda website gone? ("Lonni J. Friedman")
make modules/aci mixer??!! (Peter Bismuti)
Re: Ethernet NIC Recommendation (Bit Twister)
Re: eth0 delaying initialization - why? (Elliott)
Re: hdparm settings reset on reboot? (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Re: stupid gnome compile! ("David ..")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Bougerolle)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.X
Subject: Re: Helix upgade trashed Sawfish
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:24:13 +0800
In article <Hy2g5.4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> Ever since the latest Helix Gnome upgrade, ...
In the latest version of LinuxPPC I had so much trouble trying to get the
HelixCode stuff to do what I want that I finally ripped it all out. Go
to the central RPM repository or some such place, get original packages
and install those instead of Helix Code.
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:37:35 -0500
From: gLiTcH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.0 Internet Connection Problem
"Christopher E. Souter" wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm running RedHat 6.0 with the GNOME desktop.
>
> As recommended in most Linux installation and user guides I have
> read, I have set up a normal user account for myself.
>
> However, I have a problem getting kppp to work when logged in as a
> normal user.
>
> I can run kppp without any problem when logged in as root, but
> when I log in as a normal user, kppp gives me an error message
> something like this:
>
> Error!
> pppd is not properly installed!
> The pppd binary must be installed
> with the SUID bit set.
> Contact your system administrator.
>
> Then, when I try to set up kppp to dial my ISP, I can't even set
> up the modem, regardless of what device I choose. I get another
> error message:
>
> Sorry, can't open modem.
>
> Therefore, I can't access my ISP unless I log in as root.
>
> Can anyone answer the following questions for me?
>
> 1. A. Why can I access the modem as root, but not as a user?
to give an answer but not a very exact one, I would say it is because of
permission problems (obviously) going back to how pppd is called it
seems. Can anyone give a better, more precise reason?
>
> B. Can I fix this, and, if yes, how do I do it?
yes, by following what the error message says
>
>
> 2. A. How do I install pppd with the SUID bit set?
you won't need to install it that way. Since it is already installed you
can just change the current permissions so that the suid bit is set. To
set it find the pppd binary (probably in /usr/sbin/ but don't quote me
on that) and issue the following command:
chmod u+s pppd
This will turn on the suid bit for the owner of the pppd binary.
>
> B. What is the SUID bit, anyway?
it allows programs to be run as the actual owner of the file instead of
the owner of the process that is trying execute a binary second hand.
Another way of putting this would be the following example:
Apache normally runs as the user 'www' however some programs it has to
run are of course owned by regular users (CGI files run into this
problem). When a CGI program needs to be executed for a webpage and it
isn't owned by 'www', which is who Apache is executed as, the suid bit
can be set so that the CGI program can be executed by www on the owner's
behalf.
I believe I have explained that correctly. I always get confused myself
on what it actually does so if anyone notices I explained it incorrectly
please post the correct definition/purpose of the suid bit.
As a side note, suid programs are a security hazard so it is best to
think about what programs you are turning the suid bit on for in case it
may bring you problems later on.
>
>
> I can't find the answers to these questions in any of the
> documentation. I have looked in sag, nag, lug and install-guide.
>
> If someone could at least tell me where to look for the
> information I need, I'll be eternally grateful.
>
> Best regards
> Chris Souter
> (Sydney, Australia)
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: joe b. <root@[127.0.0.1]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.lang.oberon,comp.os.lynx,comp.os.mach,comp.os.misc,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.psion.misc
Subject: Re: Operating systems for personal-computers?
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:54:45 +1000
Reply-To: root@[127.0.0.1]
and those pictures were scanned in on....?
of course. Windows.
>grandmother's 4.5.2 and she's off writing her life stories complete with
>pictures from 1922. Wait till she discovers the internet.
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From: GL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to run Disk Druid?
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 03:48:36 GMT
I'm using Linux 6.2 with a bash text shell. How do I run Disk Druid?
I've only seen it on the installer but I'd like to mess around with
some of my partitions without using "fdisk". Is this even possibile or
is Disk Druid for installing ONLY?? Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: who is responsible for the cache?
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:02:09 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert Schweikert wrote:
>I've been fighting for a while now trying to build gcc-2.95.2 on RH6.2,
>no luck yet. I have a few leads, one is that the L2 cache is getting
>trashed. So I would like to find out who is responsible for the cache?
>Is it the kernel, some libraries in the distro or some mysterious black
>magic?
AFAIK, it's the motherboard chipset. Sounds like you've got hardware
problems to me. Compiling something large (liek gcc or the kernel) puts a
lot of strain on memory, and I've had machines with flakey hardware that
seemed fine until I tried to compile something. The symptoms of flakey RAM
or flakey cache are often random Sig-11's during compiles. You CPU might
also be overheating -- check the CPU fan and make sure you're not
over-clocking anything.
>Any help, comments insight are appreciated. Also if there's a good trick
>to get gcc-2.95.2 compiling on RH6.2 I'd like to know. I am pretty close
>on just simply blaming it on RH. After all they must have had a reason
>to stay with gcc-2.91.66 instead of shipping gcc-2.95 with the 6.2
I had no problems compiling 2.95.2 under 6.0 or 6.1, though I haven't tried
it under 6.2.
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at be flung by members of
visi.com opposing SWANSON SECTS...
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From: Max <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with info
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:11:25 -0500
When I type info at the command line, I am not getting the top node I
want.
I want to run info for gdb. The command
#info gdb
just gives me the man page for gdb. Where does info find its files, and
how does one set it up correctly. I am using Slackware 4.0.
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From: Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.linux
Subject: eth0 delaying initialization - why?
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:26:31 GMT
I just installed a new hard drive and now have two drives, we have
windows on one and linux on the other (redhat 6.1) it dualboots fine. In
windoze the ethernet card works fine and uses dhcp to grab it's IP
address. In redhat however when it boots up I get a message that says
eth0: Delaying Initialization or something like that. I when I type ifup
eth0 we get the same message.
Help.
I am trying to do dhcp remember...
thank you
You can email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.lang.oberon,comp.os.lynx,comp.os.mach,comp.os.misc,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.psion.misc
Subject: Re: Operating systems for personal-computers?
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:49:35 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tolan wrote:
>
> Chris Tarnas wrote:
> >
>
> > Amiga Warm fuzzy memories for me.
> > Solaris Intel version was free at JavaOne.
> ANy idea were i can get a d/load of this, i havent been able to find
> one ;o)
>
> > Santa Cruz Operation (SCO)
> > BSD
> >
> > -chris
All that I heard was that it was a "free license", but there is a media
cost of $75 unless you find a place where they want to give it away - it
isn't currently available for simple downloading/installing.
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From: Gordon Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Download rate diminishes
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:58:48 -0400
"L.M. Dizon" wrote:
>
> Any idea why when I download a file or surf the internet, the download rate
> just goes keeps on diminishing until the modem "stalls"? I use an Optiflex
> Speedcom 2000 56k modem and I get the following information when I use the
> command setserial:
>
> setserial /dev/ttyS0 -a
> /dev/ttyS0, Line 0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8. IRQ: 4
> Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0
> closing_wait: 3000, closing_wait2: infinte
> Flages: spd_normal skip_test
>
> I also found from a linux newbie website that you can speed tweak a modem by
> changing parameters in the options file found in /etc/options. So I set the
> MTU(Maximum Transmission Unit) to 1250 and the MRU(Maximum Recieve Unit) to
> 1500. I still haven't noticed any change however. What do I need to setup?
I had a similar problem in Linux until I changed my PPP device
setting to point to /dev/ttyS0 instead of /dev/modem. Don't ask me
why that would matter since /dev/modem is pointing to /dev/ttyS0
unless it was just coincidence.... Something to try though if you
have it pointing to /dev/modem.
>
> Lloyd Dizon
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Subject: Listing all the files changed since...
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 05:01:03 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I need to make a list of all the files I either wrote to, changed the
permissions on, changed the owner and group of, or create in
the last n days. Can anyone help?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anh Lai)
Subject: stupid gnome compile!
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 05:11:41 GMT
okay, i have never had problems installing anything untill gnome-core-1.2.1.
here is the error:
.............
...........
unused -c gnome-hint-properties.c
gnome-hint-properties.c:23: capplet-widget.h: No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [gnome-hint-properties.o] Error 1
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/anhlai/gnome-core-1.2.1/gnome-hint'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/anhlai/gnome-core-1.2.1'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
okay, anyone know what package capplet-widget.h comes in.. i've installed
gnome-core before, i'm builiding this again to get it OUT (make uninstall). so
what header is capplet-widget.h?
thanks in advance for help
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Install without floppy or CD?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 Jul 2000 00:18:39 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Rysdam wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew J. Perrin) writes:
>
>> The catch is, the floppy drive to the thing has long since
>> disappeared, and we don't have a CD ROM for it. It does have a
>> network connection, though, so we can mount a CD over the net.
>>
>> Any ideas on how this might be done?
You could probably copy via the network to your hard disk, "loadlin" ,
and a netinstall image such as Slackware, or even a zip-drive install
image (also used to be available for Slackware), assuming you have a
parallel-port zip drive. (Or, again booting from loadlin and an
appropriate image, use a SCSI PCMCIA card and SCSI CD.)
If you're paying by the hour, a new laptop might be cheaper.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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Subject: Re: Listing all the files changed since...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 05:24:12 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L Olczyk) writes:
> I need to make a list of all the files I either wrote to, changed the
> permissions on, changed the owner and group of, or create in
> the last n days. Can anyone help?
Something like 'find / -mtime n' perhaps?
--
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.linux
Subject: Re: eth0 delaying initialization - why?
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 05:28:27 GMT
Elliott wrote:
> I just installed a new hard drive and now have two drives, we have
> windows on one and linux on the other (redhat 6.1) it dualboots fine. In
> windoze the ethernet card works fine and uses dhcp to grab it's IP
> address. In redhat however when it boots up I get a message that says
> eth0: Delaying Initialization or something like that. I when I type ifup
> eth0 we get the same message.
>
> Help.
>
> I am trying to do dhcp remember...
> thank you
>
> You can email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
First off, make sure you have PnP OS disabled in your system BIOS. That
did the trick for me.
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From: "Grigory V. Manushkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ALSA 0.5.8 and ESS1869
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:34:00 +0400
Hi everybody !!!
Here is the problem
1.when i try to increase master volume (alsamixer)
up to 100 % the sound quite disappered.
2.when i try 2 change master volume i hear some fuss (no matter
console or X)
3.the loud is lower than oss driver have
Slackware 7.0
2.2.13
Thanks
Good Luck
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From: Gordon Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: hdparm settings reset on reboot?
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 01:48:29 -0400
I turned on 32-bit I/O with sync (hdparm -c3) using hdparm and that
doubled my transfer rate. However, I found that after I rebooted,
it was back to 16-bit again. Do you have to put hdparm in a startup
file or something? If so, which one is best?
This is for an Ultra 33 drive on a Promise Ultra 66 controller
card. My other drive for Win98 is an Ultra 66. Apparently, Linux
doesn't see them in their true default modes (ultra 33 and ultra
66). I'm afraid to try the DMA flag again (since it corrupted stuff
the last time), but I wonder if that was because I didn't have
32-bit I/O Sync turned on when I did it? Could that make a
difference?
Thanks,
Gordon
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (agent 01111000)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:18:23 GMT
On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:16:26 GMT, while stumbling around in alt.os.linux.mandrake,
alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> went on and on about the rainforest, then mumbled
something under their breath:
>On 24 Jul 2000 08:03:01 GMT, Andy Shearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>>
> There are people who used Microsoft Word for the last five
>years and are still unaware of the presense of the "options" dialogs.
>Can you really expect them to use linux?
ive used linux for a long time, and dont know of the options dialogs under ms
word... i guess if i used it, i might go in there... but the real options are
in the registry :]
>
>Some people have no interest in hacking an OS and are more willing to
>put up with windows than try to understand the 500 modules of the
>kernel.
>
>I use both(but hope to use linux exclusively in a few months due to a
>change of circumstances.) I like linux better but I have no
>difficulty understanding why to some, the concept of using the command
>line seems ancient, complex and useless.
'never underestimate the power of the command line...' -darth.vader to
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From: "Lonni J. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where has the propaganda website gone?
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 01:31:10 -0400
It was shutdown about 6 months ago. Much of its content has been merged
into themes.org
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Anyone know where the propaganda website went to? I think it was a
> linux site or unix, can't quite remember but they had some kewl
> backgrouds and stuff to download.
> they used to be at
> http://propaganda.system12.com/welcome.html
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Subject: make modules/aci mixer??!!
Date: 28 Jul 2000 06:44:15 GMT
In file included from radio-miropcm20.c:13:
../sound/lowlevel/miroaci.h:9: #error Compiling a driver that needs the ACI-mixer but
without ACI-mixer support
radio-miropcm20.c: In function `pcm20_mute':
radio-miropcm20.c:33: warning: implicit declaration of function `aci_write_cmd'
radio-miropcm20.c: In function `pcm20_setfreq':
radio-miropcm20.c:73: warning: implicit declaration of function `aci_write_cmd_d'
radio-miropcm20.c: In function `pcm20_getsigstr':
radio-miropcm20.c:81: warning: implicit declaration of function `aci_indexed_cmd'
make[2]: *** [radio-miropcm20.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers/char'
make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_char] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers'
make: *** [_mod_drivers] Error 2
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Subject: Re: Ethernet NIC Recommendation
Reply-To: This_news_group.invalid
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:32:45 GMT
You could look around here
http://www.redhat.com/corp/support/hardware/index.html
On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:36:16 -0400, Dennis D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>I would like to add my Linux computer to my simple
>Ethernet home network. My computer is a Gateway
>166 running RedHat 6.1. Does anyone have any suggestions
>on a NIC card that is known to work well with Redhat Linux?
>
>Any recommendations appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>
>Dennis
>
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From: Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.linux
Subject: Re: eth0 delaying initialization - why?
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:38:32 GMT
That didn't work. It was already disabled. Any other suggestions?
Mike wrote:
> Elliott wrote:
>
> > I just installed a new hard drive and now have two drives, we have
> > windows on one and linux on the other (redhat 6.1) it dualboots fine. In
> > windoze the ethernet card works fine and uses dhcp to grab it's IP
> > address. In redhat however when it boots up I get a message that says
> > eth0: Delaying Initialization or something like that. I when I type ifup
> > eth0 we get the same message.
> >
> > Help.
> >
> > I am trying to do dhcp remember...
> > thank you
> >
> > You can email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> First off, make sure you have PnP OS disabled in your system BIOS. That
> did the trick for me.
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Subject: Re: hdparm settings reset on reboot?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:39:26 GMT
Gordon Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I turned on 32-bit I/O with sync (hdparm -c3) using hdparm and that
> doubled my transfer rate. However, I found that after I rebooted,
> it was back to 16-bit again. Do you have to put hdparm in a startup
> file or something? If so, which one is best?
Yes, put it in /etc/rc.d/rc.local (or maybe /etc/rc.local on some
systems?) script which is run last on bootup.
>
> This is for an Ultra 33 drive on a Promise Ultra 66 controller
> card. My other drive for Win98 is an Ultra 66. Apparently, Linux
> doesn't see them in their true default modes (ultra 33 and ultra
> 66). I'm afraid to try the DMA flag again (since it corrupted stuff
> the last time), but I wonder if that was because I didn't have
> 32-bit I/O Sync turned on when I did it? Could that make a
> difference?
>
> Thanks,
> Gordon
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: stupid gnome compile!
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 01:48:16 -0500
Anh Lai wrote:
>
> what header is capplet-widget.h?
It's in the "control-center-devel...rpm"
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