Linux-Misc Digest #276, Volume #20 Thu, 20 May 99 15:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Windows NT vs. Linux testing by mindcraft ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: * * * Mindcraft offer to re-run Linux vs NT test (Andrew Comech)
New language fonts for Linux using Metafont, LaTex ? (Bijendra Singh)
Re: NT the best web platform? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux on Dual Pentium-II machines (Swietanowski Artur)
Where is kernel in Mandrake 5.3?? ("Phillip")
Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (was: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?)
(Steve Lamb)
Re: find (Dr Paul Kinsler)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (David Kastrup)
Re: car mp3 player (Jim Richardson)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Jim Richardson)
Re: A simple (reliable) browser (Jim Richardson)
Re: Journaling Filesystem Anyone? (Jim Richardson)
Re: HTML based POP tools (Jim Richardson)
Re: New Star office for glibc 2.1 (Fred Kuipers)
Re: NT the best web platform? (Anthony Ord)
UDMA under Linux 2.2.5 on Asus P5A-b (Ali M15xx chipset) (Peter Stein)
Re: Netscape 4.51 suddenly exits ????????????? (David Walsh)
Re: painfully slow video (Randy)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Matthias Warkus)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Windows NT vs. Linux testing by mindcraft
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:52:55 GMT
See, what gets me it you always see Linux as the sole entry from the
Open Source community. I have yet to really see a "benchmark" test done
against anyone of the BSD community... are they afraid this is an
opportunity for BSD (notably FreeBSD) to wipeout the competition, or are
they going to cry FOULK and say it's comparing Apples and Oranges...
Personalyl I coudl have used an NT v. Solaris v. BSD benchmark today
since I seemingly lost trying to push FreeBSD over Slowlaris and NT
(pronounced "Emp-Tee") here at work...
(My solution is to quit my job... which will most likely happen)
So much for OS jihads...
-David
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech)
Subject: Re: * * * Mindcraft offer to re-run Linux vs NT test
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 19 May 1999 18:33:53 -0500
On Wed, 19 May 1999 18:33:40 GMT, Lew Pitcher wrote:
>On 19 May 1999 18:05:23 GMT, Paul Gregg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Why Red Hat? How does their commercial success make them the "Linux Community"?
>>[snip]
>>
>>Basically because RedHat has the resource to put to it. When the benchmarks
>>were released Mindcraft claimed that noone in Redhat would help them with
>>tuning. RedHat responded saying that had it come through the proper channels
>>then they would have assisted in the Tuning of the Redhat box.
>
>I use a Slackware distribution. Does that mean that I don't belong to the
>"Linux Community"? I'm glad that Red Hat offered support for the product that
>they sold, but that doesn't make them the sole representative of the "Linux
>Community" any more than S.U.S.E or Slackware or Debian or Caldera.
Unfortunately, the phrasing "Linux Community==RedHat" was very appropriate.
Ask someone in a computer store about Linux or listen to news: I am not
sure many people are aware that there is something alternative to RedHat.
RedHat becomes very commercial; I wish they do not share the fate of M$
in the future.
Btw... This is damn good that Linus has not accepted a job offer from RH
(and it is sad he makes it public that he prefers RH to others).
>Yes, I agree. Who is the authoritative voice of the "Linux Community" who
>will approve of the test? And who is the authoritative voice of the "Apache
>Community" who will also approve the test?
Basically, the question here is who can and will be held responsible
for the performance of Linux.. Aparently, responsibility must be related to
money; "the big one with money"==RedHat. (Say, non-commercial Debian does not
even care about advertising; why would they stand up _proving_ Linux superiority
to Microsoft? It is good enough that this superiority is provided...)
a.
--
Looking for a Linux-compatible V.90 modem? See
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem
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From: Bijendra Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.text.tex,comp.os.linux.develop
Subject: New language fonts for Linux using Metafont, LaTex ?
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:24:56 -0700
Hi,
I want to create new language fonts ( Indian language Hindi) for Linux.
Someone suggested that I can use Latex or Metafont for this.
Can someone please let me know :
(1) LaTex or Metafont, which one is used for creating new fonts ?
Are they available free ?
(2) Can the newly created fonts be used by any X-appluication ?
Are there utilities which can be used to convert these fonts to
other standards like TrueType, PostScript, etc ?
Thanks
-Bijendra Singh
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:34:04 GMT
In article <7hua5c$ti6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> bz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > please.. no more benchmark crap. anyone can make a bechmark say
> > whatever you want. if you had statistics, you remember that. you
> > could even take ms stats and make them say whatever you want. the
> > reality is that you cannot count on ms.
> >
> > a bit off topic.. i remember when all the managers at hertz
believed
> > the hype that ms spewed and ditched their os400 machines for new
$20k
> > PCs for servers. the short of that story is that they are back
to
> > the old os400s. what a waste of time & money.
> >
>
> That's a shame and very short sighted. I recently went down to IBM's
> Teraplex Center in Rochester MN and tested my company's application
> using one of those huge honk'n AS/400's (12cpus, 40Gb RAM and 1.2Tb
> disk) as our database server. Wow! What a nice box, what a nice OS.
>
> I can see why every person I know that has worked on the AS/400 raves
> about them. Hopefully IBM will fix some of the minor short comings of
> their RDBMS (lack of LOB and nested outer join support) soon and it'll
> rock.
>
> cheers.
>
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> ---Share what you know. Learn what you don't.---
>
I spent a couple years in an AS/400 and RPG only shop. Leaving was like
getting out of jail. The pricing was absurd. We wanted to establish an
Ethernet connect to another computer and the AS/400 hardware feature was
$5,000. The best programmer in the shop was dedicated as a system
programmer - just like a mainframe. Now I'm retired, using Linux - and
mostly happy.
John Culleton
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Swietanowski Artur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux on Dual Pentium-II machines
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 20:20:56 +0200
mumford wrote:
> You're requesting info about building a number crunching system... I'm
> almost positive that you could expect a significant performance hit be-
> cause of the decreased cache size if you chose celerons instead of true
> P-II's (celerons have 128K cache, true P-II's have 512K).
All evidence to the contrary so far (in the number crunching field).
There is a noticable-to-big performance hit if you have *no* L2 chache,
as it was the case with older Celerons (prior to 300A and 333 models,
I think). Blocking methods in numerical linear algebra asymptotically
reach towards the achieveable peak performance with the cache growth,
but at 128KB cache they are pretty damn close.
Also, L2 cache of Celerons works at twice the speed of PII L2 cache.
Depending on your examples, you may sometimes even get a better
performance from a Celeron! (I take this info from previous
discussions on the PII vs. Celeron -- search Dejanews for the
original posts).
Regards,
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Artur Swietanowski mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Institut f�r Statistik, Operations Research und Computerverfahren,
Universit�t Wien, Universit�tsstr. 5, A-1010 Wien, Austria
tel. +43 (1) 427 738 620 fax +43 (1) 427 738 629
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From: "Phillip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Where is kernel in Mandrake 5.3??
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:51:02 -0400
I've just installed Mandrake 5.3 and tried to recompile the kernel the same
way I did with RedHat 5.2 and when I type 'make menuconfig' in
/usr/src/linux, I get error messages. I've played around with it and can't
figure it out.
Appreciate the time. As I am not a regular reader of this group, please
reply to me via e-mail. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks alot!!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (was: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?)
Date: 20 May 1999 17:05:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 19 May 1999 17:56:58 GMT, Jason T. Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Isn't popular yet? Oh dear. Please excuse me while I try and stiffle a
>roaring guffaw.
OK, I'm waiting. Stiiiilllll waiting. Well? No guffaw. Oh, could that
be because FreeBSD's rise and fall cannot be calculated because the numbers
just aren't there yet whereas Linux, on the most optimistic observations, has
surpassed Mac's base install with a majority of that being servers? Hmmm,
food for thought.
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr Paul Kinsler)
Subject: Re: find
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:08:38 +0100 (BST)
brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ls -l $(/usr/bin/find . -perm -0020 -type f -print )
> This is a strange notation. Why are you doing that?
> Use '-ls' option instead of -print and it works fine:
> find . -perm -0020 -type f -ls
I did that because I didn't know of the -ls option; and because
in my script I generate a list of files $LIST at one point with
find, then at another do "ls -l $LIST". When posting and
checking, I just stuck the two together ... :-/
Thanks for the answer...
--
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Institute of Microwaves and Photonics
University of Leeds (ph) +44-113-2332089
Leeds LS2 9JT (fax)+44-113-2332032
United Kingdom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WEB: http://www.ee.leeds.ac.uk/staff/pk/P.Kinsler.html
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From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: 20 May 1999 20:40:48 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach) writes:
> You may be less likely to die, net, if you have a gun, because most
> of the time, people "defending" themselves with guns don't fire them
> - most people aren't stupid enough to wait around to be shot at.
So you would be of the opinion that a criminal armed with a gun
telling me to pass my wallet will, if I grasp at a gun as an answer,
turn his back on me and walk away?
Sounds plausible.
--
David Kastrup Phone: +49-234-700-5570
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: +49-234-709-4209
Institut f�r Neuroinformatik, Universit�tsstr. 150, 44780 Bochum, Germany
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: car mp3 player
Date: 20 May 1999 17:34:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 19 May 1999 20:25:46 GMT,
brian moore, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>On Wed, 19 May 1999 19:35:51 GMT,
> rs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 13 May 1999 16:04:06 GMT, David L. Bilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >I'm looking into constructing an mp3 player for my car. I've searched the
>> >web, but come up with lots of useless (for me) info. Basically, what I'm
>> >looking for is a linux mp3 program that I can use for the playing. It
>> >should support keypad control, and ideally, output to an LCD screen. Does
>> >anyone have any pointers. If not, where can I get info on writing one
>> >myself? Thanks.
>> >
>> >David Bilbey
>> Oh and I almost forgot, I am starting on a new project to use a linux
>> kernel on a floppy which expands into a ramdisk to include the MPG123
>> player, the sound card module, and the code for the joystick and LCD.
>>
>> Any help, suggestions, or info for getting started on such an endeavor
>> is greatly appreciated
>
>Should be simple. Look on Sunsite, er, Metalab for the various
>'cramdisk' kits. I keep a floppy around with a kernel that supports
>3c509 and NE2000 nics, a serial port and includes Lynx and Minicom.
>
>Great when you're stuck using someone's broken computer and just want a
>proper terminal program. (And, yes, Hyperterm sucks.)
What is the minimum ram needed for this?
(I have an old '386 laptop that I'd like to use as a terminal for
the boat. It only has 6mb ram.)
>
>The cramdisk package has all the information you need to make your own
>cramdisk, including choosing what files to put on it.
>
>--
>Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
> Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
> Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
> Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
--
Jim Richardson
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: 20 May 1999 17:34:06 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 19 May 1999 12:35:41 +0200,
David Kastrup, in the persona of
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth P. Turvey) writes:
>
>> On 19 May 1999 00:02:53 +0200, David Kastrup
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [Snip, I'm not even going to comment on the fear aspect.]
>>
>> >No honest person has a chance to make any use of a weapon he might be
>> >carrying if a hoodlum chooses to attack him with a weapon. The
>> >hoodlum will not stand there as an open target and start the process
>> >by warning the other person. The honest person has no option to shoot
>> >potential hoodlums unawares. For that reason, the general easy
>> >availability in bearing arms is heavily disparaging honest people.
>>
>> Statistics don't bear you out.
>
>Unfortunately, they do. Your chance of death by shooting in the
>U.S. is about a factor of 5 higher than in comparable countries with
>gun control. The school shootings are just an insignificant top of
>the iceberg.
*bzzt* wrong answer, thank you for playing.
The claim was, that having a gun, would be of little or no use for defence
because the thug has the drop on you. Of course, as the poster you are
replying to pointed out, the statistics do not bear this claim out.
Your answer was entirely irrelevent to this claim. But Ill shoot it
down anyway.
A) There are no comparable countries to the US, this is one thing that
makes comparisons difficult at least.
The US are not a homogenized society. We are very much
a mix of cultures and people, and much social friction
results from this.
B) Even within these United States, the homicide rate varies greatly
from state to state, and county/city to county or city. But
one interesting fact emerges, in all of the states (40
I believe at last count) that have shall issue CCW (concealed
carry permits.) not one saw an increase in homicide, or
violent crime in general. Allmost all of them saw a drop
greater than the drop in the non-carry states. (you did
know that out homicide rate is dropping, while that of
many western European's is rising, didn't you?)
None of the CCW states homicide rates dropped less
than the national average. The worst thing you could say
about CCW, was that it had no effect on the crime rate.
(as a further aside, the citizens with carry
permits are less likely, as a group, to commit
crimes, with or without firearms than the general populace,
or even the police.)
C) Of the homicides in the US, gun related or other, the vast
majority of the perpetrators are violent criminals with
long records, why are they out? most of them have served
time for crimes past. Many are out on parole or other
early release. The "average" Joe, just isn't a murderer.
enough for now, followups set appropriately.
>
>> The most successful way to defend against rape is with a handgun.
>
>What percentage of rapes has been avoided by the use of a handgun?
>Have any statistics?
>
>> This does increase the risk of accidental shooting, and the risk of
>> the `hoodlum' getting the gun (from zero to something finite), but
>> the risk of rape drops dramatically.
>
>Where have you got your numbers from? How many rapists will let their
>victim fumble with her handbag?
There was an alarming increase in rapes in Orlando FLorida in the '60s
The Orlando sentinal, and the local Police dept. Got together and
trained over 2000 women in firearms handling and safety. This program
was widely publicised, and covered in the local news and newspapers.
The rape rate in Orlando dropped by over 66% in one year, and even
dropped in the surrounding area. Not one of those women were raped,
or had to defend themselves within that year. But the publicity of the
program helped to protect them, and many others. This is just one example.
>
>> Just because you believe you have no use for a gun doesn't mean that no
>> one has a need for one. I don't need a gun to defend myself either, but
>> I am pleased that I have the right to if necessary.
>
>Unfortunately, so has everybody else. And the persons that have the
>best "private" use for guns are those you would not want to have guns.
>
over 1 billion rounds of ammo fired in the US annually, <1500
accidental deaths.
--
Jim Richardson
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: A simple (reliable) browser
Date: 20 May 1999 17:34:14 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 19 May 1999 07:18:06 GMT,
Mihaly Gyulai, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aamer Nazir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>> Can anyone please recommend a simple and reliable browser(under X) ?
>
>Try AMAYA. It's 3 MB, runs faster than Netscape. You can use it
>for editing HTML files, too.
>
Downside to Amaya is it's still a little buggy, and it doesn't
seem to grok frames. (at least, not to display them.)
But it is snappier than NS, or W3 Emacs.
>
>
>
--
Jim Richardson
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: Journaling Filesystem Anyone?
Date: 20 May 1999 17:34:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 19 May 1999 15:48:55 GMT,
Andrew Chung, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>>What exactly is a journaling file system? I remember reading an interview
>>with Linus Torvalds, and he mentioned this being one of the big things in
>>upcoming kernel versions. From what I understand, all the major versions of
>>Unix do it (SGI, Sun, etc.), so it makes sense for Linux to have it,
>>according to Linus.
>
>From http://www.netzservice.de/Home/kk/inkomploehntopp/00709.html
>A JFS is a file system that writes all modifications into a
>circular log prior to (or instead of) comitting them on disk.
>The AIX JFS, the DEC OSF/1 Advanced File System, the SGI XFS,
>the Window NT NTFS and the Episode file system are JFSes.
>
<info snipped>
>
>Another problem with modern file system is metadata update
>(metadata is directory entries, inodes, indirect blocks and so
>on), which has to be done synchronously or at least in a
>somewhat orderly fashion to keep the FS always in a consistent
>state. This turns out to be a major performance bottleneck,
>which can be worked around with a log.
>
>
>
IIRC, NTFS only logs the metadata.
--
Jim Richardson
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: HTML based POP tools
Date: 20 May 1999 17:34:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 19 May 1999 16:57:50 +0300,
Mies, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>
>>I'm fairly new at Linux (2.2) and have a couple of questions regarding
><snip!>
>>2- HTML based Clients
>>
>
>
>Well you could try IMP, I recall it handles IMAP and POP.
>It was http://www.horde.org/ I think...
>
>
>
Linux Journal has an article on this very subject in this months
issue. (carried over from last months.)
--
Jim Richardson
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: Fred Kuipers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New Star office for glibc 2.1
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 22:05:24 GMT
Nuts :-(
Peter Englmaier wrote:
> That would not be legal.
>
> Fred Kuipers wrote:
> >
> > Does somebody want to make it available for the rest of us?? :->
> >
> > Eric Fierke wrote:
> >
> > > You can't download it. It is currently only available on the Applications
> > > cd that ships with Red Hat 6.0
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > > > Does anyone know where I can download the new glibc 2.1 star office that
> > > > susposedly comes with RH 6.0?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 18:37:53 GMT
On Wed, 19 May 1999 12:17:49 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> bz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> please.. no more benchmark crap. anyone can make a bechmark say
>> whatever you want. if you had statistics, you remember that. you
>> could even take ms stats and make them say whatever you want. the
>> reality is that you cannot count on ms.
>>
>> a bit off topic.. i remember when all the managers at hertz believed
>> the hype that ms spewed and ditched their os400 machines for new $20k
>> PCs for servers. the short of that story is that they are back to
>> the old os400s. what a waste of time & money.
>
>That's a shame and very short sighted. I recently went down to IBM's
>Teraplex Center in Rochester MN and tested my company's application
>using one of those huge honk'n AS/400's (12cpus, 40Gb RAM and 1.2Tb
>disk)
Excuse me while I wipe the drool off the screen.
> as our database server. Wow! What a nice box, what a nice OS.
>
>I can see why every person I know that has worked on the AS/400 raves
>about them. Hopefully IBM will fix some of the minor short comings of
>their RDBMS (lack of LOB and nested outer join support) soon and it'll
>rock.
What's LOB?
>cheers.
Regards
Anthony
--
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| They fall apart |
| When the walls come tumbling in |
| Though we may deserve it |
| It will be worth it - Depeche Mode |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Stein)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus
Subject: UDMA under Linux 2.2.5 on Asus P5A-b (Ali M15xx chipset)
Date: 19 May 1999 18:22:50 GMT
Anyone have success with this?
When I ran 'make xconfig' no options came up for Ali M15xx.
I thought I saw several posts that mentioned UDMA for Ali M15xx
was available in the 2.2 kernels.
I am aware of www.dyer.vanderbilt.edu/server/udma
but this page is very sparse on information. It assumes visitors
are familiar with the Linux UDMA history and know exactly what
they're looking for.
Using 'patch' for updates is alien to me (why not just TAR or RPM
the source?). Can I apply the 2.2.9 patch to 2.2.5 ? If not,
where do I find the source for 2.2.5 ? Web and dejanews searches
have not turned up anything other than the vanderbilt URL and the
UDMA HOWTO (which isn't helpful for Ali).
Peter Stein
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: David Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.51 suddenly exits ?????????????
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 02:19:31 +0000
I only have the problem with Redhat which does not install JDK. Suse on the
other hand works fine.
Andy Piper wrote:
> Julio De Gregorio wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >
> >I installed Red Hat 6, Netscape 4.51 works fine, but when I try to open
> >a page that includes some Java, Netscape suddenly exits just after
> >printing
> >'Starting Java...' in the status bar.
> >
> >What can I do????????
>
> I, and several other people, have had similar problems with Netscape 4.5
> when trying to access sites that contain Java. Unfortunately, none of us
> have come up with a good solution yet.
>
> Andy
>
> --
> Andy Piper
> Technical Analyst, Middleware Development Group
> phone: (01252) 528957 or (0780) 109 1431
> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ** speaking personally...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randy)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: painfully slow video
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 18:35:43 GMT
On Thu, 20 May 1999 09:30:39 -0700, Joe Strout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Well, I did a clean install of linuxppc R4 from the CD last night, and
>(thank goodness!) everything started working again. I even discovered
>how to copy my dvorak xmodmap into /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap so
>that I have my keyboard in XWindows as well as in the text shells (now
>why doesn't the installer do that automatically?!?).
>
>My biggest problem now is the video: it's painfully slow! I have a
>StarMax 3000 (200MHz 603ev, 96MB of RAM). Dragging or resizing a
>window is very, very slow, even in transparent mode. Menus crawl open.
>The mouse updates several times a second (!) as I drag it. It's
>pathetic. In MacOS, everything is snappy.
>
>I'm not using any video card, just the onboard video, which is weaker
>in the StarMax than on a real Mac. I do have a Rage Pro card I could
>install if it would help, and I'll be getting a Rage 128 if ATI ever
>ships the darn things, so please let me know if those can be made to
>work under X.
>
>I'm booting with "no video driver" (in BootX); I tried unchecking that,
>but then my display is freaked out -- pixels doubled and ghosted, both
>in the text consoles and in X-Windows. My mode seems to be about
>640x480, 16-bit color, despite adding "-mode 11" to the serverargs in
>/usr/X11R6/bin/startx.
>
>It seems I either am not using the right video driver (how do I
>find/activate the right one?), or I need to look into this "accelerated
>X" business -- but that seems to involve downloading (and maybe
>building) a new kernel, which makes me a bit nervous.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks,
>-- Joe
>
>--
>,------------------------------------------------------------------.
>| Joseph J. Strout Biocomputing -- The Salk Institute |
>| [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.strout.net |
>`------------------------------------------------------------------'
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Hello,
I'm another newbie, a crossover from Win group. I seem to have the
same problem. My system is a 200 MMX Cyrix, 32 Mg SDRam, 5.2 G Maxtor
HD, ATI 3D Rage Pro (with 8192 Mg of ram), a 15" Optimal Computers
Opti-View monitor that supports 800x600 & 60 Hz resolution, and using
Slackware 3.6. I have tried SuperProbe to acquire the setting it
correctly identified the card, but whenever I run startx it is
horribly slow, much slower than windows 98. Hopefully this is enough
info if not email me or post a reply if you need more.
Thank you,
Randy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:49:42 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the 20 May 1999 16:33:18 +0200...
..and David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
>
> > It was the Wed, 19 May 1999 17:51:51 -0500...
> > ..and Kenneth P. Turvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [schnibble]
> > > Now how did we get from operating systems to gun control?
> >
> > Every thread degenerates into either an Emacs-vs.-vi debate or a gun
> > control flamewar after a finite amount of time.
>
> To which of those alternatives would Godwin's law apply?
Gun control advocates always bring up the Nazis after some time.
mawa
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