Linux-Misc Digest #369, Volume #20               Thu, 27 May 99 15:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  grep involving a count (display/file output) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  How to get multiple replies quickly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: How do you change the Applications Menu? (Buschman)
  Re: Linux Read win95/98 Long File Names? (Jerome Mrozak)
  PPP and Fax conflict (carl)
  Re: How do you change the Applications Menu? (Mark Tranchant)
  Re: Corrupt Superblock (Vegard Engen)
  Re: How to get multiple replies quickly (Mark Tranchant)
  NFS Server in Linux 2.0 ("Rick")
  Re: WWW: Take my Linux site -- please. (Edward Dunagin)
  Port scanner ("Kerry J. Cox")
  Re: grep involving a count (display/file output) (Frank Sweetser)
  Re: samba and kernel 2.2.x don't work together (J. Otto Tennant)
  Re: ip forwarding (gus)
  Error while installing Sybase.. (Emanuel Marciniak)
  Re: How to get multiple replies quickly (fred anger)
  xterm & background processes (Conway Yee)
  Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
  Chicago mini expo ("Mitch Appleby")
  Free Software Highlight of USENIX Conference, June 6-11, Monterey CA (Jennifer 
Radtke)
  Re: Starting X at boot-up (Matthew Bafford)
  Re: Warning! [object] may be crobbled by longjmp or vfork ("Larry Brasfield")
  mtx with Exabyte 17D Autoloader (Ben Blakely)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: grep involving a count (display/file output)
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:14:46 GMT

Hello,
 I've been looking for a way to get a count of a
certain number of instances that are hit with the
grep that I'm using.  The syntax I have now is:

grep -x 'Levl 1' *

Anyone have advice on a way to send the count of
these instances to a file, or even display the
number of instances?

Thanks in Advance.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to get multiple replies quickly
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:25:38 GMT

I have posted several messages in the past but I rarely ever get
replies.  Since I am a newbie my questions are usually straight forwrd
and to the point.  Why don't I get replies?  Any advise would be
apreciated.

Thanks,
Mike B.

p.s.  I suppose it would not be too ironic if I got no replies on this
message  :P


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From: Buschman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do you change the Applications Menu?
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:16:53 GMT

Hey Mark,

        It's FVWM(Window Maker) under redhat 5.2.  I did find the xwp file by
reading my "documentation" :)  J/K guy!  I want to be able to put it in
my apps menu so I don't have to go through all that each time.

Thanks Mark,
Mike B.


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What window manager or desktop environment are you using? KDE? Gnome?
> FVWM?
>
> Describe what the system looks like at startup if you don't know; or
> alternatively, run "ps -ax" from X and post the results. Without this,
> we're stuck, with insufficient information.
>
> For now, to run it, you need to run "xwp" from the bin subdirectory to
> where you installed it. For example, if you put WP8 in /usr/local/wp8,
> run /usr/local/wp8/bin/xwp.
>
> Mark.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > I have recently installed Corel WP 8.  As with Windows, I was
expecting
> > to see a shortcut in my applications menu.  However it is not there.
> > How do I make entries and reconfigure my applications menu.  Is it
like
> > using explorer in Windows?  If so what program do I use.  As you can
see
> > I am very new to Linux and would appreciate any and all help thrown
my
> > way.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike B.
> >
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> > ---Share what you know. Learn what you don't.---
>

--
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Hydrogen and Stupidity.
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From: Jerome Mrozak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Read win95/98 Long File Names?
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:14:50 -0500



spaten wrote:
> 
> Is there a trick or utility to enable Linux to see the full extended file
> 
> name used by windows on my FAT partitions instead of cutting it off with a
> 
> tilde?
> 
> ------------------  Posted via SearchLinux  ------------------
>                   http://www.searchlinux.com

mount the device using the vfat file system type.  For example, a valid
command could be:

mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/dosc

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From: carl <#[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PPP and Fax conflict
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:38:05 -0400

I installed linux 5.2 on my laptop, rebuilt the kernel, and configured
pcmia for the modem cards. All went well. I could dialout via PPP to my
ISP. I then bought the power tools which included fax capability.
Immediate the PPP functio ceased to function.

Reason the fax listen software is always attached to the modem. When
linux is started the fax listening software is started. If I kill the
fax listener (gettyfax?) and rename the file to a different name, PPP
works fine.

Can anyone offer a way that will allow the PPP service to coexist with
the fax service. I even thought there was a command to disable (stop)
the fax service. then when I was done with PPP turn it back on. If it is
there I couldn't find it.

thanks

carl



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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do you change the Applications Menu?
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:57:17 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What window manager or desktop environment are you using? KDE? Gnome?
FVWM?

Describe what the system looks like at startup if you don't know; or
alternatively, run "ps -ax" from X and post the results. Without this,
we're stuck, with insufficient information.

For now, to run it, you need to run "xwp" from the bin subdirectory to
where you installed it. For example, if you put WP8 in /usr/local/wp8,
run /usr/local/wp8/bin/xwp.

Mark.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I have recently installed Corel WP 8.  As with Windows, I was expecting
> to see a shortcut in my applications menu.  However it is not there.
> How do I make entries and reconfigure my applications menu.  Is it like
> using explorer in Windows?  If so what program do I use.  As you can see
> I am very new to Linux and would appreciate any and all help thrown my
> way.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike B.
> 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vegard Engen)
Subject: Re: Corrupt Superblock
Date: 27 May 1999 18:10:28 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 27 May 99 07:33:54 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>A couple of days ago I tried to boot linux and to my dismay I got a kernel 
>panic.  After some poking around I realized that I have a corrupt superblock.  
>Reinstalling is not a problem (been planning on getting SuSE since 6.1 came 
>out anyway) as most of my important data is backed up but there is some data 
>that I did not back up.  So I am hoping that someone has a great trick to be 
>able to access the drive so that I can get my data off before formatting the 
>disk.  If anyone has any ideas please send them on to me.

Easier said than done. I was going to mail you. But the headers seems to
indicate that you are using a forged from-header.

Well - actually, I couldn't know, as there IS a domain called nowhere.com,
and it didn't specifically tell me that the user "nowhere" didn't exist,
but...

Anyhow, the answer you're looking for, is in the manpage of e2fsck:

       -b superblock
              Instead  of  using  the  normal  superblock, use an
              alternative      superblock      specified       by
              superblock.Thisoptionisnormallyusedwhentheprimary-
              superblock has  been  corrupted;  most  filesystems
              have  primary  superblocks  located at blocks 8193,
              16385, etc.  If an alternative superblock is speci-
              fied  and  the  filesystem is not opened read-only,
              e2fsck will make sure that the  primary  superblock
              is  updated  appropriately  upon  completion of the
              filesystem check.

If you haven't specified something else when you made the filesystem (quite
unlikely, because if you had, you'd likely not have to ask this question
either), you can simply boot from a rescue-disk, and do:

e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/hda1

Of course, replace hda1 with the correct device-name for the corrupt
Linux-partition.

- Vegard

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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to get multiple replies quickly
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:12:44 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Deja only claims two messages on this group from your email address. The
first one about video card drivers didn't really give much information,
or show any evidence that you'd read any documentation (www.xfree86.org
- note that it's "X" or "X Window System" *not* XWindows) or searched
for yourself using e.g. AltaVista.

The second one about window manager menus (which I have answered) is
similar - you seem to have little concept of the relation between X, the
window manager and the applications, which is admittedly less cohesive
than under Windows. I have no problem with you being a newbie (how
accommodating I am!) but with this little knowledge you really should be
buying a beginners' guide to linux book rather than asking here each and
every time something goes wrong. Also, that posting precedes this one by
a mere 24 minutes - how quickly are you expecting answers?

Read around and search a bit before asking.

This problem is only going to get worse as more and more people migrate
to Linux. I have been using it since 1994 - then, people hardly ever
asked this level of question. I'm waiting in dread for "broken
cupholder" type questions to flood in.

NOTE: I am not suggesting that people with little idea of how to run
Linux are in any way inferior - don't give me the "what gives you the
right to preach" rubbish. I'm not looking down on you, just stating the
facts.

Mark.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I have posted several messages in the past but I rarely ever get
> replies.  Since I am a newbie my questions are usually straight forwrd
> and to the point.  Why don't I get replies?  Any advise would be
> apreciated.
>

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From: "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NFS Server in Linux 2.0
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:13:14 -0700

I'm not sure if this is right forum but:

I'm trying to set up a NFS server on my linux machine for AIX users to
access.

I've set up my hosts.deny and hosts.allow as per documention.  I've also
inserted the two lines according to the nfs howto doc into inetd.conf like
this:

mount/1-2 dgram rpc/udp wait root /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd rpc.mountd
mount/1-2 stream rpc/tcp wait root /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd  rpc.mountd

I've created my export file that looks like this:
#
/home/public    (rw,insecure,all_squash)
#

note: I only made one entry now for testing and i'm not worried about the
security as yet until I get it working.  (our system is inside a tight
security firewall) I will change this as soon as I see it working.

Portmapper runs and I do get a list with rpcinfo -p.  Which is:

program    vers    proto    port
100000        2    tcp       111    portmapper
100000        2    udp       111    portmapper
100003        2    udp       2049   nfs
100003        2    tcp       2049   nfs
100005        1    udp       747    mountd
100005        2    udp       747    mountd
100005        1    tcp       747    mountd
100005        2    tcp       747    mountd

now, I get this, when I issue the rpc.mountd with the -P 747 for port and
the command line (doing this manual, for inetd doesn't seem to want to work,
even with running the exportfs file).

If I issue both rpc.mountd and rpc.nfsd after portmapper is installed
without any port designation it assigns the mountd randomly and never at 745
udp and 747 tcp.  Is there a way to do this?

Regardless of having the ports assigned, I get an RPC error (connection
refused) when trying a local mount (I added  localhost:/mnt/test  (rw) to my
exports file and killed the processes and restarted them manually).

I have gone to a unix machine as root (hosts.allow is set for net address
level like 192.168.0.0.), and tried to mount also with the scenarios
mentioned above.  I've read and read documents, so is there anyone out there
that may help me out on this?

thank you much if you can.



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From: Edward Dunagin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WWW: Take my Linux site -- please.
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 08:46:40 -0400



On Sun, 23 May 1999, Gary's Encyclopedia wrote:

***********************snip********************

> Gary's Encyclopedia has been on the web for over a year now and, while I 
> believe it is the best site available for finding Linux-related info,
> I've been unsuccessful in convincing others of that [grin].  I've decided
> that its low useage (50-100 home page hits per day) is not worth my 
> efforts in its continued normal maintenance.

i visited your site and find it VERY useful. its a great resource and
i have now bookmark it.

Peace.........................ed



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From: "Kerry J. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Port scanner
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:13:46 +0000

Okay, dumb questions and I'm sure I already know the answer.  We have a
customer who wants to have a static IP address, but we are concerned
that he would try to run a server on his side and with a simple dial-up
account, that falls into a different payment bracket.  To make sure that
he doesn't run a server on his end and stays compliant with the
agreement, I'd like to know a useful port scanner application out there
that would check the ports on an IP address. A GUI interface would work
well, but it doesn't have to be GUI.
Thanks.


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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: grep involving a count (display/file output)
Date: 27 May 1999 14:10:41 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Hello,
>  I've been looking for a way to get a count of a
> certain number of instances that are hit with the
> grep that I'm using.  The syntax I have now is:
> 
> grep -x 'Levl 1' *
> 
> Anyone have advice on a way to send the count of
> these instances to a file, or even display the
> number of instances?

grep ... | wc -l

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paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.5        i586 | at public servers
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girl at the counter said, "Would you like some fries with that?"  --Jay
Leno

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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: samba and kernel 2.2.x don't work together
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J. Otto Tennant)
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:51:38 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey Greer) writes:

>Has anyone had the same problem?  Any suggestions?  For now I'm
>sticking with kernel 2.0.36.

Browsing the SuSE support database yesterday, I happened across
a problem report about Samba there.  I don't remember the details,
but I think they have a kernel patch.  It was in the SuSE 6.1 section
of the support database at www.suse.com.

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                   Forsan et haec olim meminisse juvabit.
              Charter Member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy

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From: gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ip forwarding
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:45:14 +0100

Being a slightly advanced newbie myself, I would have to ask what
modules you have loaded. IIRC, ping does not actually use TCP, (Nor does
FTP). Anyway, AFAIK, the stock standard forwarding utility does only
tcp, and you have to load modules to get the other protocols.

I may be well off base, but it is a clue, right?

If in doubt, use the ipchains check utility. Change the protocol to the
one used by ping. See if ipchains forwards it.

gus

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I am having a lot of problems getting ip forwarding to work with COL
> 2.2. I am hoping someone can help. :) Okay, I checked three things. Is
> support built into the kernel? Yes. Is 1 in ip_forward? Yes. Are there
> any chains that would stop access to and from the computer? No. (This


[Most snipped ... ]


> 
> Any clues? Thanks for any help.
> 
> ---
> Dustin Puryear
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:57:19 -0400
From: Emanuel Marciniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Error while installing Sybase..

Hi,
  When trying to install Sybase 11.0.3.3 on Red Hat 5.2 Linux I am
getting the following error:

  error: sybase-ase-11.0.3.3-2.i386.rpm cannot be installed

I use command : rpm -hiv <file_name>
The file was downloaded two days ago from Sybase download site.
I am new to Linux so any hint will be very appreciated.
Thank you,

Emanuel Marciniak


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From: fred anger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to get multiple replies quickly
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:56:40 GMT

In article <7ijkku$n6p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have posted several messages in the past but I rarely ever get
> replies.  Since I am a newbie my questions are usually straight forwrd
> and to the point.  Why don't I get replies?  Any advise would be
> apreciated.
>

Posts tend to get ignored for a few reasons.  Either you're posting in
the wrong group, or you give a vague subject line ("i need help" is a
bad subject line), but most likely, your question has already been
answered, be it in a FAQ, HOWTO, or countless times in the newsgroups.
I always do a power search on dejanews before I post a question, and 9
times out ot 10, I either find an answer to my question, or glean enough
information to figure it out for myself.

I looked at your posts, and they were X questions, so they belong in
comp.os.linux.x.  While I'm up, I'll give a couple quick answers to your
posts:

video card problem:  re-run whatever X configuration program you like
(Xconfigurator, XF86Setup, xf86config).

apps menu problem:  this is a window manager-specific problem.
different window managers have different ways of adding items to menus,
so be sure to specify your window manager when you post in c.o.l.x or
better yet, do a power search in dejanews - you may find you answer
without needing to post.

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From: Conway Yee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: xterm & background processes
Date: 27 May 1999 14:39:58 -0400

Running a terminal and involking a background process, say "foo &"
should invoke foo in the background that is detached from the parent
process.  Specifically, when I terminate the parent process, the
xterm, foo should continue to run.  As a specific example, I run emacs
in the background and then terminate the xterm from which it runs
should not kill emacs.  Is there a setting somewhere that I am
missing?  I am running RedHat 6.0 and have noticed this problem since
5.2 although the problem is getting more annoying.  I am also running
GNOME and Metro-X.  I doubt a GNOME error because it predates my use
of GNOME.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 08:50:47 -0700

On 27 May 1999 11:10:36 +0200, Marco Antoniotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach) writes:
>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Ed Avis  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Peter Seebach wrote:
>> >>That's one of the things Lott did - or rather, he studied numbers from places
>> >>where these things happen.  In general, violent crimes go sharply down when
>> >>you start letting people carry guns legally.
>> 
>> >...in a country where criminals already have guns.  I assume the
>> >studies applied only to the US.
>> 
>> Yes.  I'd love to see some research on other contexts as well.  It's
>> clear that the correlation between guns and crime isn't going to turn out
>> to be easy to understand... Too much social interaction.
>> 
>> >You would not necessarially get the same results in a situation where
>> >to start with, neither criminals nor the public had access to
>> >firearms, and then gun laws were relaxed.
>> 
>> Well, I don't think there's anywhere in the world where people genuinely don't
>> have access to firearms...  :)  That said, I would guess that relaxing gun
>> laws would probably lower the rate of violent crime anyway, although there
>> might well be a short blip higher.
>
>Well, the argument that Lott did some number crunching and then came
>up with the conclusion that "more weapons circulation = less crime"
>does not surprise me.  As it does not surprise me that the crime rate
>in the US is generally down, mostly due to the better economic
>climate.
>
>But the big question remains. Why in Western Europe the violent, gun
>related, crime rates are still lower than in the US (or - at least -
>this is the perception that one has), and with much stricter gun
>controls laws in place?  Big question for sure, but avoiding it is
>unfair. :)

        Is there RoadRage in Paris? Lack of a gun does not seem to
        stop the LA motorist. I could also see one getting lynched
        for having a New York style mouth in other cities.

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From: "Mitch Appleby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Chicago mini expo
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 10:51:00 -0500

At Comdex Spring I heard about a mini expo for Linux being held sometime in
June.  Does anyone know where or when?

Mitch Appleby



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Crossposted-To: 
comp.protocols.nfs,comp.security.unix,comp.sys.apollo,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.sgi,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.theory,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.internals
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jennifer Radtke)
Subject:  Free Software Highlight of USENIX Conference, June 6-11, Monterey CA
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:55:35 GMT

1999 USENIX ANNUAL TECHNICAL CONFERENCE
June 6-11, 1999
Monterey Conference Center, Monterey, California

Please go to:  http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix99

BEER, PIZZA AND NEW PRODUCT DEMOS IN THE EXHIBIT HALL
Admission is free to see and discuss with more than 60 vendors of new
and proven products and services. The Exhibit Hall in the DoubleTree
Hotel is open Wed, June 9, noon to 7pm, and Thurs, June 10, 10am to 4pm.
Beer and pizza will be served Wednesday, 5:30 to 7pm.

INFORMAL DISCUSSION SESSIONS LEAD BY LEADING DEVELOPERS
The FREENIX track of the Technical Sessions promotes high level exchange
of new technologies. Peer-refereed presentations and informal evening
sessions will be led by leading OSS developers including Linus Torvalds,
Kirk McKusick, Theodore Ts'o, Theo de Raadt, and Robert Chassell &
Miguel de Icaza for Free Software Foundation.

NEW RELEASES OF OPEN SOURCE UNIX/LINUX OSs GIVEN AWAY
USENIX has provided grants to the OpenBSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD, and Debian
Linux development projects, to support each of them in issuing new
releases. The releases-OpenBSD 2.5, FreeBSD 3.2, NetBSD 1.4, and Debian
2.2-will be distributed through usual channels, and, as a bonus, will be
given free to Conference Technical Sessions registrants.

TUTORIALS, REFEREED REPORTS, EXPERT TALKS & LOTS OF CONVERSATION
* John Ousterhout, creator of Tcl/Tk, speaking on a fundamental shift in
software development.
*Refereed papers on:  management of resource systems, file systems,
virtual memory systems, storage systems, security, web server
performance and O/S performance.
*Invited talks concentrate on the extremely practical: UNIX/Open System
& Y2K, IP Multicast, E-mail Bombs, IPv6, IP Telephony.
*24 tutorials are being offered over three days, with Eric Allman, Tom
Christiansen, Peter Galvin, Evi Nemeth, and Marcus Ranum among the
instructors.
*As always, lots of discussion in the halls and over beers.  This year,
there's a delicious dessert Reception at the fantastic Monterey Bay
Aquarium.

ANNUAL AWARDS PRESENTED
The 1999 USENIX "Flame" will be presented to representatives of The X
Window System Community in honor of profound intellectual achievement
and an unparalleled service.  USENIX on behalf of the Software Tools
Users Group (STUG) will also present the STUG Award;  this year to Udi
Manber for turning algorithms into tools for searching and
resource-discovery.
========================================================================
USENIX, the Advanced Computing Systems Association, is the
international, not-for-profit society for engineers, computer scientists
and system administrators.  Founded twenty-five years ago, USENIX
members are the computer technologists responsible for many of the
innovations in computing we enjoy today.  Please visit our web site:
http://www.usenix.org.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Bafford)
Subject: Re: Starting X at boot-up
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:07:09 GMT

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On 27 May 1999 11:21:10 -0500, Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
held some poor sysadmin at gun point while typing in the following:
: On the subject of X, how do you load more than one instance. [BAD WRAP]
: it when I try.

X :<display num> <options>

startx -- :<display num> <options>

--Matthew

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From: "Larry Brasfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Warning! [object] may be crobbled by longjmp or vfork
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:00:43 GMT

Followups set to comp.lang.c++ for topicality.

Dragos STOICHITA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
Greetings.

> I am compiling KDE 1.1.1 on a HPPA 1.1 platform running HPUX.
> I know I am posting in a linux forum, but I also have linux at home,
> and I think my problem is related to the compiler, and not to the
> platform.

That's right.  Related more to C++, even.

> The compilation finishes successfully, but GCC outputs at a ton of
> warnings, of  the same type. For nearly every line in the source it says:
>
> Warning! [object] may be crobbled by longjmp or vfork
>
> I have been looking for the explanation in the info page and on the net
> at least for 4 hours, but I didn't find anything.

If longjmp or setjmp are used in a C++ program,
the result is very likely to be that some destructors
are not run against objects that were constructed
in stack frames that longjmp strips back, and that
destructors are run against pseudo-objects that
were not constructed (or which have already been
destructed) in the stack frame containing the
setjmp call.  This latter possiblity best fits the
"object may be crobbled" warning.

All things considered, setjmp/longjmp should
really not appear in C++ programs except when
used by the most disciplined programmers who
know C++ well but are still willing to write long
stretches of strictly C code in the region between
the setjmp and longjmp.  (Those are rare folks.)

The fix is to either get rid of the setjmp/longjmp
calls, or compile the code as C.

--
--
Larry Brasfield
Above opinions may be mine alone.
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From: Ben Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mtx with Exabyte 17D Autoloader
Date: 27 May 1999 17:31:13 GMT

I'm trying to get mtx 1.1 to work with an Exabyte 17d Autoloader. It's
letting me load tapes into the DLT drive, but when I issue an "unload"
command it gives an error. For instance, when I tell it to unload the tape
into slot two on the autoloader, it gives this error:

Unloading Data Transfer Element into Storage Element 2...mtx: Request
Sense: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0E 00 00 00 00 3B 90 00 00 00 56 00 00
mtx: MOVE MEDIUM from Element Address 82 to 2 Failed  

Anyone have any ideas/suggestions? I've emailed the creator of the mtx
program asking if he's dealt with the Exabyte loaders at all, but no
response yet. If there's another way to do this besides using mtx, I'm up
for that too. Thanks.

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