Linux-Misc Digest #369, Volume #26 Wed, 22 Nov 00 12:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Yamaha CRW8824 and Tekram 390F (Hrrunka)
sound of silence: help! (David Wright)
Re: spam spam everywhere! (Stefano Ghirlanda)
[RedHat 7] Installation faills ("Tobias Dresbach")
Re: cdrecord stopped working in Redhat 7 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: cdrecord stopped working in Redhat 7 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: RPM- Create rpm from RH7 for RH6.1 ...How? (aflinsch)
E-mail client (LuisMiguel Figueiredo)
cdrecord and HP9500/ATPI cd-drive? (Ish Rattan)
Re: spam spam everywhere! (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: A stronger kill (James Silverton)
Re: E-mail client ("Jan Schaumann")
Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: spam spam everywhere! (Stefano Ghirlanda)
Re: logitech USB mouse won't work ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. (bob_more)
adding users... (Jeffrey Hood)
Downgrading? (Doug Angus)
PCMCIA not detected anymore ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it.
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:43:45 GMT
How did you compile it? Did you use the gcc that Redhat comes with??
Can you explain how you did it?
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Eric B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >... and compiled all the source tar balls from kde.org,
> >not a single issue.
>
> I compiled KDE2 from source under RedHat 7.0. No problems.
>
> ]-[an.
> --
> ==================================================
> = Han Willemsen - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
> = Utrecht - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
> ==================================================
>
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From: Hrrunka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Yamaha CRW8824 and Tekram 390F
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:53:16 GMT
Hrrunka wrote:
> I'm wondering whether there's something odd about that drive. I have a
> CRW8824S, and I tried it with an IWILL 2935LVD interface card. Even
> after twiddling the control parameters in the card's BIOS I couldn't
> persuade the a100u2w driver (which is quite happy to talk to the disk
> on the same interface) to do anything but hang when it tried to get
> a response from the Yamaha drive... Unfortunately it hangs in a manner
> that locks the entire system, so if any log information is produced, I
> never get to see it...
It seems it doesn't get on with U2W interfaces. I've added an Adaptec
2904 interface and moved the Yamaha onto it instead, and the CD part
at least is now quite happy. Havn't got the CD-R/W bit running yet,
but I'm reasonably confident it will behave...
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Purrs,
Hrrunka
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From: David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: sound of silence: help!
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:02:36 +0100
I am running RH 6.2 on a laptop, and yesterday the sound simply stopped
(it won't even beep) after working fine for months. Sound still works
fine under Windows, so I don't think it's a hardware failure. Below I
reproduce a history describing the results of every check I could think
of. If anyone has some concrete advice, I would be very appreciative!
After looking at
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Sound-HOWTO.html
I tried
ls -l /dev/sndstat /dev/audio
which returns
crw------- 1 maria sys 14, 4 Apr 17 1999 /dev/audio
crw-rw-rw- 1 root sys 14, 6 Apr 17 1999 /dev/sndstat
Both are present, although I don't know why /dev/audio should belong
to maria, except that she is logged in at the console. Trying
cat /dev/sndstat
gives a "No such device" error. The HOWTO says that means the sound
driver did not load. It gives some hints on getting the kernel to
recognize your sound card for plug and play driver loading, but running
pnpdump finds no pnp devices. That really doesn't suprise me, as I
suspect that a laptop has no "sound card" as such. Looking at the
/etc/sysconfig/soundcard created by the installer reveals it to consist
of the single line
CARDTYPE=MAESTRO
and the boot log makes it look like the relevant module was loaded
without any problem
Nov 22 03:10:38 localhost rc.sysinit:
Finding module dependencies succeeded
Nov 22 03:10:42 localhost rc.sysinit:
Loading sound module (maestro) succeeded
However, if I load the sound module manually via
insmod sound trace_init=1
I do get some worrisome warnings
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/misc/sound.o:
unresolved symbol sound_init_lowlevel_drivers_Rec0251af
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/misc/sound.o:
unresolved symbol sound_unload_lowlevel_drivers_Ra675fda1
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/misc/sound.o:
unresolved symbol sound_preinit_lowlevel_drivers_Rebdfb792
That's all I could think to do, and I still don't have any sound. What
happened?! And what can I do to fix it?!
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From: Stefano Ghirlanda <stefano @ zool.su.se>
Subject: Re: spam spam everywhere!
Date: 22 Nov 2000 15:05:33 +0100
Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Francois Pittion wrote:
>
> > has anyone else noticed an increase in the amount of spam on these news
> > groups? Personally I am fed up with it!
> > Fran�ois
>
> Maybe a little bit, but not much compared with my e-mail, where the spam
> has doubled or tripled in the last month or so. The trouble is the same
> spammers switch from ISP to ISP every few minutes so the usual spam
> filters do not keep them out.
Maybe the info node "Thwarting email spam" in the gnus info manual
could be of help. It is about gnus configuration but you can apply the
same principle with other mail filtering techniques. Go to
http://www.gnus.org if you don't have gnus installed.
--
Stefano
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From: "Tobias Dresbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [RedHat 7] Installation faills
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:48:18 +0100
hi all,
i try to install RedHat 7 on my PC (K6 III/400 Gigabyte Board). I have
donwloaded an actuall bootdisk from an redHat Mirror.
the pc boots without problems from the disk but when it tries to load the
modul for the scsi controller (Dawicontroll am???) i
get the following error message:
failed to insert ... module. the same happens if i try to install over the
network. then the loading of the nic modull (rtl 8139)
fails.
somebody knows whats goin wrong?
eg debian or suse linux work fine on the same pc.
thanks in advance for your help
tobi
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cdrecord stopped working in Redhat 7
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:08:00 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
myself <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> cdrecord: Inappropriate ioctl for device. Cannot
send SCSI cmd via ioctl
I had the same problem and it was fixed when I
upgraded to cdrecord-1.9-3 (rawhide).
Good luck,
Kaj
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cdrecord stopped working in Redhat 7
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:08:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
myself <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> cdrecord: Inappropriate ioctl for device. Cannot
send SCSI cmd via ioctl
I had the same problem and it was fixed when I
upgraded to cdrecord-1.9-3 (rawhide).
Good luck,
Kaj
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From: aflinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RPM- Create rpm from RH7 for RH6.1 ...How?
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:48:08 -0600
AZ_Man wrote:
>
> OK.. the company has clients that are at RedHat 6.1
> I need to create RPM's for them but I'm at RH7.
>
> How?
>
give them a spec file and a tarball, and a script to create the rpms
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From: LuisMiguel Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: E-mail client
Date: 22 Nov 2000 14:36:53 GMT
I need a good email client for X11. What should i use? and why?
tanx in advance,
+--------------------------------+
|elmig |
|http://www.alunos.ipb.pt/~ee3931|
|Luis.Figueiredo AT pt.bosch.com |
+--------------------------------+
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From: Ish Rattan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cdrecord and HP9500/ATPI cd-drive?
Date: 22 Nov 2000 09:48:14 -0500
Hello,
Just added a hp-9500i/atpi (internal drive: 12x8x32x drive) to Mandrake-7.0
The man page for cdrecord mentions only SCSI devices, so, does it work
with IDE/ATPI drives? If not what is the appropriate software for writing
CDs (I do not use KDE/GNOME? environments)?
Thanks in advance,
- ishwar
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: spam spam everywhere!
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:53:12 -0500
Stefano Ghirlanda wrote:
> Maybe the info node "Thwarting email spam" in the gnus info manual
> could be of help. It is about gnus configuration but you can apply the
> same principle with other mail filtering techniques. Go to
> http://www.gnus.org if you don't have gnus installed.
In there, it says, in part: "if it has a Subject that starts with a `Re:' or
has a
References header, it's probably ok. All the rest goes to the `spam' group. "
I am afraid the spammers have already read this. I get lots of spam whose
subject line starts out: "Re. In response to your request" or some such
nonsense (I made no such request, obviously). So this technique no longer
works as well as it might. (There is more in the cited info manual; this is
just one item.)
My most effective mail filter, in Netscape, is to automatically delete all
e-mail from hotmail.com and hotbot.com. While I understand that some
legitimate users use these servers, I know none of them, so I never see the
stuff at all. All I have ever received from them was spam. Of course now I
receive nothing from them.
My second most effective mail filter, in Netscape, is to dump all incoming
e-mail where I am not in the To: or CC: fields into a spam bucket. I look at
that only when I am bored and feel like sending the stuff back to the
originating ISP to get their accounts cancelled. Trouble is, I am on some
mailing lists where I am in the Bcc: field, and I must put in special cases
for each of those. Fortunately, there are not too many.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 9:45am up 9:40, 2 users, load average: 2.08, 2.13, 2.15
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From: James Silverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A stronger kill
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:22:23 -0500
Villy Kruse wrote:
> To be clear. The deamon forks a child and the child dies, and then
> the child becomes a zombie. When the original daemon also terminates,
> then the zombie will be inherited by the init process, which will take
> care of proper burial.
>
>
Good Lord! It sounds like Stephen King (!! g)
Jim.
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James V. Silverton
Potomac, Maryland.
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From: "Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E-mail client
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:27:11 -0500
* "LuisMiguel Figueiredo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I need a good email client for X11. What should i use?
the correct newsgroup: comp.mail.misc
> and why?
b/c it's more on-topic there.
But since this is your first offense (AFAIK) you get some hints for free:
You really don't need a GUI for a mail-client. Try http://www.mutt.org
If yu absoultely need a GUI, check out Balsa, looks like that's gonna be
good. Kmail is supposed to be rather functional, as well. And then
there's always NS-Messenger. For those who need it.
;-)
-Jan
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D'oh! English! Who needs that? I'm never going to England. Come on,
let's smoke. -- Homer Simpson, talking Barney into cutting class
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it.
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:26:33 GMT
I really didn't want this discussion to be RedHat vs.Slackware or Gnome
vs. KDE
I wanted to get KDE2 on my machine so my mom and mother in law would be
able to use Linux.
I believe that KDE2 will give Linux a better user interface, in
addition that I like the tools that come with it.
Right I installed RH7 with gnome only. Then I am installing the rms
likewise:
libmng.rpm (qt needs it)
qt-2.2.1-6
kdesupport-2.01
kdelibs-2.0
kdelibs-sound-2.0-7. (kdebase needs it)
kdebase-2.01
Then after that I should be able to come out to the gui login page
select kde as my interface, username, password, and boom I'm in right??
WRONG . Still the screen opens for a second and then kicks backout to
the gui login screen.
What is the deal guys???
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From: Stefano Ghirlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: spam spam everywhere!
Date: 22 Nov 2000 16:57:50 +0100
Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Stefano Ghirlanda wrote:
>
> > Maybe the info node "Thwarting email spam" in the gnus info manual
> > could be of help. It is about gnus configuration but you can apply the
> > same principle with other mail filtering techniques. Go to
> > http://www.gnus.org if you don't have gnus installed.
>
> In there, it says, in part: "if it has a Subject that starts with a `Re:' or
> has a
> References header, it's probably ok. All the rest goes to the `spam' group. "
Yes, but I took thata away :-)
> My second most effective mail filter, in Netscape, is to dump all incoming
> e-mail where I am not in the To: or CC: fields into a spam bucket. I look at
> that only when I am bored and feel like sending the stuff back to the
> originating ISP to get their accounts cancelled. Trouble is, I am on some
> mailing lists where I am in the Bcc: field, and I must put in special cases
> for each of those. Fortunately, there are not too many.
Look for header fields like Mailing-List, some mailing lists use
these.
--
Stefano
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: logitech USB mouse won't work
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:55:26 GMT
Are there any modules or other source for usb I can download to make it
work, or is it integrated within the kernel? Any clues when 2.2.18 will
be officially released? I totally lost track of kernel versions.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Anthony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <8vehgt$b7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I'm using Linux Mandrake 7.1 on a laptop. The laptop does not have
ps/2
> > or serial, only USB. So I'm left with the touchpad or a usb mouse. I
> > have the logitech optical wheel mouse with usb, but I can't get it
to
> > work. I've run mouseconfig, chose USB, still nothing. All that did
was
> > cause an error with gpm and stopped my touchpad mouse from working
too.
> > I've also tried editing the XF86Config file in the "Pointer"
section to
> > use IMPS/2 protocol (with /dev/mouse -> /dev/usbmouse). I tried all
> > sorts of combinations of using mouseconfig and XF86Config. The
kernel
> > has mouse usb as module. All this and I still haven't had it
working.
> > Does it matter which USB port it is in? The optical red light glows
with
> > both, so I know they are mechanically functional.
> >
> > If anyone has got their usb mouse to work, let me know how you did
it
> > and what linux distrib. Even if you just plugged it in and it
worked or
> > if you did one of the things I did above. Perhaps I can tell which
way
> > works best and see if I made a mistake. Thanks.
>
> I have the mouse on the ps/2 port under Linux 2.2.17 and I have
tested it
> with the USB port on W98, both method work. On the USB port the
refresh
> rate is even higher (200).
>
> The kernel that Mandrake 7.1 use is 2.2.16 or below, so the usb
support
> is an old 2.4 backport. The latest USB drivers are in 2.4 and
2.2.18pre.
> You might want to try out 2.2.18pre or wait for 2.2.18. The latest
> 2.4test is not that stable, I couldn't even boot it the last time I
tried.
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Subject: Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it.
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,alt.linux
From: bob_more <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:05:17 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I really didn't want this discussion to be RedHat vs.Slackware or Gnome
> vs. KDE
>=20
> I wanted to get KDE2 on my machine so my mom and mother in law would be
> able to use Linux.
>=20
> I believe that KDE2 will give Linux a better user interface, in
> addition that I like the tools that come with it.
>=20
> Right I installed RH7 with gnome only. Then I am installing the rms
> likewise:
>=20
> libmng.rpm (qt needs it)
> qt-2.2.1-6
> kdesupport-2.01
> kdelibs-2.0
> kdelibs-sound-2.0-7. (kdebase needs it)
> kdebase-2.01
>=20
> Then after that I should be able to come out to the gui login page
> select kde as my interface, username, password, and boom I'm in right??
>=20
> WRONG . Still the screen opens for a second and then kicks backout to
> the gui login screen.
>=20
> What is the deal guys???
>=20
>=20
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> Before you buy.
You need to to go to one of the ftp sites and get all the support files t=
o, (I
used rpms) and run the rpms for all the support stuff libmimelib, libaudi=
ofil,
libmng etc, and then begin with kdeconfig, kdelibs and kdebase, and that =
should
give you a working foundation of kde 2.0. after that you shouldnt have a
problem on loading additional packages. If it's proving that hard, having=
had
the experience I did with kde 2 on Openlinux, I gotta think it' s your ch=
oice
in distro. Redhat has always been a might partial to gnome and to beta
friendly for my taste.
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From: Jeffrey Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell
Subject: adding users...
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:18:23 GMT
I am trying to write a shell script that will add users _with_ a password
and a dummy entry for a login shell ( I need to add mail users...) And
eventually this might be called as a cgi script from a web page...
Is there any way to do this without editing the passwd and shadow files,
and if that is the -only- way to do it, how does one get a password from
the system in a shell script... It seems that unless I want to write
this in perl, I can't access the crypt function to encrypt the
password...
(I am using RedHat 6.2)
Thanks,
JH
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HM Consulting, Inc.
jhood [you-know-why] at hmcon.com
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From: Doug Angus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Downgrading?
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:53:30 -0500
Is it possible to downgrade (lets say from RH 7 to RH 6.2)?
Doug
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PCMCIA not detected anymore
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:54:29 GMT
On my linux laptop, the pcmcia nic/modem isn't being detected. The
strange part is that it used to. I got the modem to work and
everything. Now, when it boots up, I don't get a usual beeps and leds
flashing. The only thing I've done since last using it was trying to
set up a usb mouse, and I've only used mouseconfig and edited
XF86Config. I didn't do anything with modules, etc. Now I can't get my
pcmcia back.
when I pull out the card and reinsert, I still don't get anything. My
logs seem to show that it used to say PCI-to-Cardbus when it used to
work. It then initialized socket 0 (Linksys EtherFast LANmodem 56k).
Only now did it start with PCI-to-PCMCIA with Intel PCIC probe and
stopped working. How do I get it back?
/var/log/messages
PCI routing table version 1.0 at 0xfdf30
Intel PCIC probe:
Unknown [104c ac50] rev 00 PCI-to-PCMCIA at slot 00:08, port 0x0
host opts [0]: none
host opts [1]: none
ISA irqs (default) = 3,4,7,11 polling interval = 1000ms
cardmgr[1102]: starting, version is 3.1.14
cardmgr[1102]: watching 2 sockets
cs: IO port probe (hex stuff 1): excluding (hex stuff 1)
cs: IO port probe (hex stuff 1): clean.
cs: IO port probe (hex stuff 2): excluding (hex stuff 2)
cs: IO port probe (hex stuff 2): clean.
at another point when I tried starting it, the logs said:
open_sock(socket 0) failed: Device or resource busy
no sockets found!
exiting
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