Linux-Misc Digest #369, Volume #24 Fri, 5 May 00 11:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Linux Kernal delayed ("SEATTLE")
Re: Comparison of different distributions (Matt Friedman)
Re: LILO doesn't like my 10G hard drive (Sascha Bohnenkamp)
Newbie...Pause boot?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: IRQs - can someone give the definitive answer please? (LazyLandlord)
What is the /boot/System.map file in RedHat distrib ? (Pierre Vigneras)
Re: good email client for Linux? (Roger Blake)
How to print page range in Netscape/Linux (WORLOK)
Re: [HELP] Mounting Macintosh fileserver on Linux (Rod Smith)
Re: Would I be able to install as UNIX? (Jim Jerzycke)
Re: [HELP] Mounting Macintosh fileserver on Linux ("Paul Harman")
Tgif and Object files??? (Matthew B)
What is the purpose of /etc/fstab? (mike)
Re: Con't find module block-major-8 (Dances With Crows)
Re: Newbie...Pause boot?? (Dances With Crows)
Re: What is the purpose of /etc/fstab? (Bob Tennent)
Re: What is the purpose of /etc/fstab? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Sorry, need help with simple linux questions from a newbie (Damon)
"make config" surprise (Ken Yasuda)
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From: "SEATTLE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Kernal delayed
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 13:12:55 GMT
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-1808165.html"
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From: Matt Friedman <"mwf"@total.net(remove-to-reply)>
Subject: Re: Comparison of different distributions
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 09:13:45 -0400
Diethard Ohrt wrote:
>
> Can anybody show, or compare, respectively, the main differences between
> the various Linux distributions (features, usability, installation
> process, ...)?
> Does anybody know an article anywhere on the net?
Rod Smith has a page that does just that. Check out:
http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/index.html
MF
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From: Sascha Bohnenkamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: LILO doesn't like my 10G hard drive
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 15:19:08 +0200
> You know that rings a bell, a couple of years ago someone
> did a good job of patching lilo for >1024, and that patch
> still isn't in lilo :-( Don't get me wrong, I like linux,
> but some of the technology that is stuck in linux is soooo
> old, like lilo. Just downloaded yours to try. Sorry for
> barging in on this thread.
The latest Lilo DOES > 1024 cyls
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Newbie...Pause boot??
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 09:22:01 -0400
I am using TurboLinux 6.0 WS on an HP Vectra PIII/450, dual booted with
W95. I'm getting a errors on the linux boot that I think are affecting
my NIC and networking. The problem is the errors go by quicker than I
can read them. After boot and log in I do a dmesg command but there are
no errors in the message list. Can I pause the screen during boot up or
is there another place to look for the error messages??
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From: LazyLandlord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IRQs - can someone give the definitive answer please?
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 13:30:04 GMT
> I tried to make my soundblaster card share IRQ5 with my 3COM network
> card on the grounds that I seldom use sound but my network card is
> always active - no go! I lost sound altogether. Move the network to
> IRQ10 and all is happy, except that IRQ10 is also my SCSI card. Now it
> MAY be that my SCSI card isn't installed properly, by suspiciously, my
> scanner stopped working.
Have used IRQ 2 for network cards in the past and all went well.
You'll find that some periferal devices prefer certain IRQ's, believe it
has to do with the device drivers.
Sharing won't necessarily work in a great deal of instances.
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Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: Pierre Vigneras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What is the /boot/System.map file in RedHat distrib ?
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 15:35:52 +0200
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Hello everyone !
Sorry if this question has already been asked but i didn't found the
answer anywhere !
Here the problem.
I'm using RedHat 6.1.
I have build a new kernel (2.2.14smp) and i have modified my
/etc/lilo.conf:
/******************************************************/
[root@moucheron /root]# cat /etc/lilo.conf
boot=/dev/sda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
default=linux
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-20smp
label=linux
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.12-20smp.img
read-only
root=/dev/sda2
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-20
label=linux-up
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.12-20.img
read-only
root=/dev/sda2
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14smp
label=new
read-only
root=/dev/sda2
vga=ask
[root@moucheron /root]#
/***********************************************************/
After running lilo :
/***********************************************************/
[root@moucheron /root]# lilo -t -v -v -v // The real command (without
'-t' option (test)) didn't show any errors !
LILO version 21, Copyright 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger
Caching device /dev/hda (0x0300)
[...]
Caching device /dev/sdb8 (0x0818)
Reading boot sector from /dev/sda
Merging with /boot/boot.b
Device 0x0802: BIOS drive 0x80, 64 heads, 8715 cylinders,
32 sectors. Partition offset: 1050624 sectors.
Secondary loader: 8 sectors.
Device 0x0802: BIOS drive 0x80, 64 heads, 8715 cylinders,
32 sectors. Partition offset: 1050624 sectors.
Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-20smp
Device 0x0802: BIOS drive 0x80, 64 heads, 8715 cylinders,
32 sectors. Partition offset: 1050624 sectors.
Setup length is 7 sectors.
Mapped 1268 sectors.
Mapping RAM disk /boot/initrd-2.2.12-20smp.img
Device 0x0802: BIOS drive 0x80, 64 heads, 8715 cylinders,
32 sectors. Partition offset: 1050624 sectors.
RAM disk: 614 sectors.
Added linux *
<dev=0x80,hd=63,cyl=109,sct=146>
"ro root=802"
Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-20
Device 0x0802: BIOS drive 0x80, 64 heads, 8715 cylinders,
32 sectors. Partition offset: 1050624 sectors.
Setup length is 7 sectors.
Mapped 1219 sectors.
Mapping RAM disk /boot/initrd-2.2.12-20.img
Device 0x0802: BIOS drive 0x80, 64 heads, 8715 cylinders,
32 sectors. Partition offset: 1050624 sectors.
RAM disk: 613 sectors.
Added linux-up
<dev=0x80,hd=0,cyl=110,sct=138>
"ro root=802"
Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14smp
Device 0x0802: BIOS drive 0x80, 64 heads, 8715 cylinders,
32 sectors. Partition offset: 1050624 sectors.
Setup length is 7 sectors.
Mapped 888 sectors.
Added new
<dev=0x80,hd=47,cyl=126,sct=156>
"ro root=802"
Map file size: 30720 bytes.
The boot sector and the map file have *NOT* been altered.
[root@moucheron /root]#
/***************************************************************/
After a reboot : i see
/***************************************************************/
[...]
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
ncr53c8xx: at PCI bus 0, device 11, function 0
ncr53c8xx: 53c875E detected with Tekram NVRAM
ncr53c875E-0: rev=0x26, base=0xdd000000, io_port=0xa400, irq=17
ncr53c875E-0: Tekram format NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-20, Parity Checking
ncr53c875E-0: on-chip RAM at 0xdc800000
ncr53c875E-0: restart (scsi reset).
ncr53c875E-0: Downloading SCSI SCRIPTS.
scsi0 : ncr53c8xx - version 3.2a-2
scsi : 1 host.
Vendor: IBM Model: DDRS-39130D Rev: DC1B
Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 6, lun 0
ncr53c875E-0-<6,0>: tagged command queue depth set to 8
ncr53c875E-0-<6,*>: FAST-20 WIDE SCSI 40.0 MB/s (50 ns, offset 15)
SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 17850000 [8715 MB]
[8.7 GB]
sda: sda1 sda2 sda3
Kernel panic : VFS can't mount root on /dev/sda2
/********************************************************************/
The last message is something "the like"...
I suppose that since Redhat installation use ramdisk (initrd), there is
a problem with my new kernel wich didn't use it.
If i see in the /boot directory :
/*************************************************/
[root@moucheron /root]# ls -al /boot
total 10781
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 May 5 15:22 .
drwxr-xr-x 24 root root 1024 Mar 2 15:19 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Feb 11 18:19 System.map ->
System.map-2.2.12-20
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 191102 Sep 27 1999
System.map-2.2.12-20
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 182834 Sep 27 1999
System.map-2.2.12-20BOOT
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 202226 Sep 27 1999
System.map-2.2.12-20smp
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 512 Jul 9 1999 boot.0800
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4568 May 5 11:47 boot.b
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 612 Sep 22 1999 chain.b
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 313673 Feb 11 18:26
initrd-2.2.12-20.img
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 314036 Feb 11 18:26
initrd-2.2.12-20smp.img
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 308009 Jul 9 1999
initrd-2.2.5-15.img
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 308488 Jul 9 1999
initrd-2.2.5-15smp.img
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Jul 31 1999
initrd-2.2.5-22smp.img -> initrd-2.2.5-15smp.img
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 695162 Jul 31 1999
kernel-2.2.5-22smp.my
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 237 May 5 12:18 kernel.h
-rw------- 1 root root 30720 May 5 12:15 map
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Feb 11 18:19 module-info ->
module-info-2.2.12-20
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11773 Sep 27 1999
module-info-2.2.12-20
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11773 Sep 27 1999
module-info-2.2.12-20smp
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 620 Sep 22 1999 os2_d.b
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1544394 Sep 27 1999 vmlinux-2.2.12-20
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1469971 Sep 27 1999
vmlinux-2.2.12-20BOOT
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1647660 Sep 27 1999
vmlinux-2.2.12-20smp
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Feb 11 18:19 vmlinuz ->
vmlinuz-2.2.12-20
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 622784 Sep 27 1999 vmlinuz-2.2.12-20
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 592397 Sep 27 1999
vmlinuz-2.2.12-20BOOT
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 647807 Sep 27 1999
vmlinuz-2.2.12-20smp
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 453234 May 5 09:29 vmlinuz-2.2.14smp
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 709302 Jul 23 1999
vmlinuz-2.2.5-15smp.new
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 695161 Aug 6 1999
vmlinuz-2.2.5-22smp.new
[root@moucheron /root]#
/****************************************************/
What are System.map* files ? Can i remove them (since lilo only use
/boot/map) ?
What are module-info files ?
How can i boot with my new kernel (vmlinuz-2.2.14smp) ?
Please help ...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Blake)
Subject: Re: good email client for Linux?
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 13:45:34 GMT
On Thu, 04 May 2000 17:46:26 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can anyone recomend a good email client for Linux?
Pine or elm. Your distribution probably came with at least one of these.
--
Roger Blake
(remove second "g" and second "m" from address for email)
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From: WORLOK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to print page range in Netscape/Linux
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 14:04:52 GMT
Hi,
Under Linux Netscape, when you go to print a document, the only choice
is to print the whole thing. Is there a way to pront only , say, the
first 6 pages of an HTML file under Netscape/Linux?? Is there something
I have to append to the "lpr" command?
Thanks.
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Before you buy.
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: [HELP] Mounting Macintosh fileserver on Linux
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.mac.misc
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 14:14:28 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <PNyQ4.127$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Paul Harman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a very large picture archive stored on an Apple Mac server, which I
> would like to be able to mount (nfs style) onto a Linux server. The Mac
> server already exports volumes to many other Macs in my organisation, so
> effectively I just want my Linux box to "pretend" to be a Mac.
>
> I've had some experience with netatalk, but as I understand it netatalk does
> the exact opposite of what I require here - copying all of the files off
> this large Mac server just isn't an option.
>
> Has anyone had any experience doing something like this, and if so could
> they point me in an appropriate direction?
Your only practical solution is to buy an NFS or SMB server for the
Macintosh, then use NFS or smbmount to mount the share in Linux. There is
a package for Linux that theoretically mounts AppleTalk shares, but it's
alpha-level software and is reportedly not usable. Check
http://www.panix.com/~dfoster/afpfs/ if you want more information on it.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration
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From: Jim Jerzycke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: Would I be able to install as UNIX?
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 21:18:00 +0000
Everybody is correct. I didn't think it would work, so just for grins I
tried installing installing all of the different flavors. No luck at
all. What satellites do you want to track? There's a Linux program
called 'mtrack' that works pretty well, altough the window size on it is
pretty small. You might also want to check AMSAT, as they have some
Linux programs.
Regards, Jim
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From: "Paul Harman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: [HELP] Mounting Macintosh fileserver on Linux
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 15:14:10 +0100
Rod Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8HAQ4.66$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Your only practical solution is to buy an NFS or SMB server for the
> Macintosh, then use NFS or smbmount to mount the share in Linux.
I had hoped that wouldn't be the case... I'd rather not run that kind of
thing on the Apple server (apart from anything else, NFS itself is a huge
security risk).
> There is
> a package for Linux that theoretically mounts AppleTalk shares, but it's
> alpha-level software and is reportedly not usable. Check
> http://www.panix.com/~dfoster/afpfs/ if you want more information on it.
Yuk - looks waaaaay too alpha for my liking.
I've heard of a Solaris product called "kashare" - is that available for
Linux? Doesn't seem to be :*(
Paul
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Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 00:26:19 +1000
From: Matthew B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tgif and Object files???
Hello,
Does anyone know about a program called Tgif?
I am using it , and need to convert a .obj file into a .jpeg , .bmp or
html file.
I have done it accidently,once, but can,t get it again,,,,,
Any help appreciated.
Matthew
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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What is the purpose of /etc/fstab?
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 10:26:18 -0400
Hi,
I have understood that the purpose of /etc/fstab was to tell Linux
to mount the devices that were listed on boot up, but it seems, I
think, that there can be devices listed that are not automatically
mounted.
If that is so, what is the purpose of haveing the others listed at
all
in that you can just mount them manually at will anyway.
Also, how could I make the system re-read the /etc/fstab file
without rebooting the system?
How is the "supermount" attribute used?
Thanks
Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Con't find module block-major-8
Date: 05 May 2000 10:28:42 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 5 May 2000 13:43:50 -0000, Stuart Grimshaw
<<8eufji$n1q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Ever since I upgraded from Redhat 6.0 to RH6.2, I get the following series
>of entries in my logfile :
>
>May 1 12:55:08 garner kernel: cdrom: open failed.
>May 1 12:55:08 garner modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module block-major-8
>May 1 12:55:08 garner last message repeated 6 times
>
>Does anyone know what they are and where they might be coming from?
Yep. block-major-8 is associated with SCSI disks (not even SCSI
CD-ROMs!) so somehow your /etc/conf.modules is associating your CD-ROM
with a SCSI disk, I think. If you can actually read from your CD-ROM at
the moment, and you don't have any SCSI disks, edit /etc/conf.modules and
add the line
alias block-major-8 off
and those error messages should stop appearing.
Don't do this if you have a SCSI disk attached to the machine.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid,
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| as I have to run nothing but a
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| burp in the butt. --MegaHAL
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Newbie...Pause boot??
Date: 05 May 2000 10:31:31 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 05 May 2000 09:22:01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I am using TurboLinux 6.0 WS on an HP Vectra PIII/450, dual booted with
>W95. I'm getting a errors on the linux boot that I think are affecting
>my NIC and networking. The problem is the errors go by quicker than I
>can read them. After boot and log in I do a dmesg command but there are
>no errors in the message list. Can I pause the screen during boot up or
>is there another place to look for the error messages??
The messages should be logged to /var/log/boot.{msg,log} and I believe
you can press CTRL-S to pause the scrolling during a boot. CTRL-Q
resumes.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid,
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| as I have to run nothing but a
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| burp in the butt. --MegaHAL
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: What is the purpose of /etc/fstab?
Date: 5 May 2000 14:35:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 05 May 2000 10:26:18 -0400, mike wrote:
> I have understood that the purpose of /etc/fstab was to tell Linux
>
>to mount the devices that were listed on boot up,
That's one of its uses.
but it seems, I
>think, that there can be devices listed that are not automatically
>mounted.
> If that is so, what is the purpose of haveing the others listed at
>all
>in that you can just mount them manually at will anyway.
If they're listed you can mount them with only the mount point (or only
the device); the other information is taken from /etc/fstab.
> Also, how could I make the system re-read the /etc/fstab file
>without rebooting the system?
/etc/fstab is read whenever you use mount.
> How is the "supermount" attribute used?
>
I don't know what you mean. Do you mean superblock?
For more information, do
man mount.
Bob T.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is the purpose of /etc/fstab?
Date: 5 May 2000 14:31:25 GMT
mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I have understood that the purpose of /etc/fstab was to tell Linux
: to mount the devices that were listed on boot up, but it seems, I
: think, that there can be devices listed that are not automatically
: mounted.
Yes. The "noauto" option.
: If that is so, what is the purpose of haveing the others listed at all
: in that you can just mount them manually at will anyway.
The entries serve as aliases, so you can say "mount /floppy" instead of
"mount /dev/fd0 -t vfat /floppy"
: Also, how could I make the system re-read the /etc/fstab file
: without rebooting the system?
type "mount -a".
: How is the "supermount" attribute used?
By the supermount daemon, whatever that is. Did you really mean
attribute? Option? FStype?
Peter
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From: Damon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Sorry, need help with simple linux questions from a newbie
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 22:51:01 +0800
Great!! Thank you very much, i got it!
After deleting fd0, i ran ./MAKEDEV fd0 and simply type
mcopy test.txt a:text.txt
and it works! So does mdir! just type mdir a: !
Thanks to all especially Eric, Patricia, Joachim and Rick.
Regards
Damon
Joachim Feise wrote:
> That looks wrong.
> It should be something like
> brw-rw---- 1 root floppy 2, 0 whatever-date /dev/fd0
>
> Got to the /dev directory (as root), delete fd0, and run the MAKEDEV shell script
> that should be there (at least in Slackware, it is):
> ./MAKEDEV fd
>
> -Joe
>
> Damon wrote:
> >
> > I got the following
> >
> > -rw-rw---- 1 damon floppy 3470 Apr 30
> > 22:53 /dev/fd0
> >
> > Regards
> > Damon
> >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > What does ls -l /dev/fd0 report?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Yasuda)
Subject: "make config" surprise
Date: 5 May 2000 14:54:24 GMT
Hello fellow users,
While trying to modify my kernel, I went to /usr/src/linux and tried to
"make xconfig" and "make menuconfig." I got the following error message but am
not quite sure what it means:
make: *** No rule to make target `xconfig'. Stop.
Can anybody suggest what I should be checking out as a result of this
error message? Configuring the kernel had not been a problem during several of
my earlier attempts.
Thanks!
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