Linux-Misc Digest #369, Volume #21 Wed, 11 Aug 99 21:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: What I think of linux. (Bud Rogers)
unknown services by inetd after RH6 upgrade (Bernard Legras)
Re: Any Support for PCI Modems? (Jeremy)
A subtle question about Lilo? (Leonard Evens)
disable nfs services (Peter Hutchison)
Re: Upgrade from RH5.2 to 6 (Gary Momarison)
Re: Any Support for PCI Modems? (Elchonon Edelson)
Re: Connect to ISP when phone rings: is this possible? (Jeff)
Re: /etc/issue.net (John Thompson)
Re: Any Support for PCI Modems? (John Thompson)
Re: startx -- -bpp 16.....too long to type ("Barry J. Grundy")
Re: Batch Converting Graphics, is there a way? (Chris Mahmood)
Re: CIA assassinations (Phil Hunt)
telnet question (me)
Re: What is Applixware? (John Forkosh)
Re: Any Support for PCI Modems? (John Thompson)
Re: Marx vs. Nozick (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hobbyist_=A9?=)
linux mem=80M too long (Jonathan C Busey)
Re: telnet question (haze)
ONLY ADULTS 13957 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
linux - cable modem ("Chris")
Re: SuSE 6.1 kppp - instructions which worked for me! (Chris Mahmood)
Re: Thousands of ATMs dead due to MCI (B'ichela)
repeated disk access under 2.2.11 (David Plaut)
Re: Disk partitioning question for Dell Dimension XPS (Michael Edson)
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From: Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: 11 Aug 1999 16:35:22 -0500
Mith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Tim Hanson wrote:
> >
> > alann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >You're right, somewhat. I would be curious as to the average age of Linux
> > >users. I'm 34. First computer I ever had my hands on was a Commodore PET.
> > >That was a LONG time ago. Right now there are a gazillion Windows users.
> >
> > 51 here. My first was a Radio Shack PC-2 (still around here someplace), then an
>
> Ya'll are makin me feel really young... 16... first computer experience
> was a Apple IIe I believe.... first computer owned was a 286... (later
> down the road I did own an XT though...
48. TRS-80 -- remember those? I had a Level II with Expansion
Interface. A whopping 48 KB of memory and *two* 5.25" floppies. Then
a Color Computer, XT clone, [234]86 clones, couple of pentiums and a
PII.
DOS 3 to 6.22, OS9, Win3.x, Slackware, SuSE, Debian...
--
Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Bernard Legras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: unknown services by inetd after RH6 upgrade
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 00:20:35 +0200
I have upgraded from RH5.2 with 2.0.36 kernel to RH6.0 with 2.2.5
kernel. Aside a few pbs with NFS now solved, I got inetd refusing
to recognize services like auth, ntalk or linuxconf (message
"unknown service" and names absent in the output of netstat).
My problem is that I am trying to introduce new services
required to run amanda backup and they are refused too.
All this works fine on a machine which has not been
upgraded. I looked in the services and the inetd.conf files
which seem OK. Is there any help around?
Bernard Legras
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@ Laboratoire de Meteorologie Dynamique
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@ 24 rue Lhomond
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From: Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Any Support for PCI Modems?
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:38:09 -0500
Doug DeJulio wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I Just got a PCI Modem and found out that they are not supported at all
> > in Linux.
>
> PCI modems that are actual full-blooded modems *do* work on Linux. We
> test our Linux software on the "Chase Research PCI-RAS4" PCI modem all
> the time -- it's a PCI card that actually contains *four* real modems.
> (Our software makes heavy use of some fairly obscure modem features,
> so we like to perform thorough tests.)
>
> Almost all PCI modems are winmodems, though, whether they say so or
> not. PCI modems that are "real modems" tend to be very expensive.
> They're not very popular, except for certain very specialized needs
> (eg. attaching a large set of modems directly to a rack-mounted Linux
> system in a service provider's machine room, without taking up much
> space or using a network-based modem rack).
>
> Under Linux, you can sometimes identify a PCI "real" modem by looking
> in "/proc/pci". A real modem can show up as a serial controller (the
> PCI-RAS4 board does). I have never tried to install a winmodem in a
> Linux box, so I can't tell how how it would identify itself. Could
> anyone else post this info?
> --
> Doug DeJulio | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> HKS, Incorporated | http://www.hks.net/~ddj/
A friend of mine let me borrow a couple of modems he has, one is a Creative
Modem Blaster and the other is a OnSpeed. I do not know what the packaging
says or that the specs are. Both show up in the /proc/pci file as a
communication controller and have an address of 0x6200 and a IRQ of 11. (no
Hight Memory) Although I use "setserial /dev/ttyS3 port 0x6200 irq 11" I
cannot talk to them. Any Ideas? And I do not have a spare $100+ for an
external + a high speed serial card. (already are using the first two
built-in ports)
Thanks! - Jeremy
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A subtle question about Lilo?
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 15:21:36 -0500
I've just gone back to reading the Lilo User's Guide
which I had not done for several years, and I've
discovered that one is not supposed to be able to
put the lilo in a Linux swap partition. But that
is exactly how VA Research configured my home machine.
I have two SCSI disks with
/dev/sda1 primary Win95 Fat16
/dev/sda2 primary Linux swap (active partition)
/dev/sda3 extended
/dev/sda5 logical Win 95 Fat16
on the first disk
and two primary Linux partitions on the second disk.
This is my lilo.conf
boot=/dev/sda2
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.5-15
label=linux
root=/dev/sdb1
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.5-15.img
read-only
other=/dev/sda1
label=win
table=/dev/sda
I've even upgraded to RH6.0 and except for needing to rerun
lilo after installation, all continues to work well.
I had presumed that the first sector of the Linux swap
partition (where lilo code resides) is not used for swap
or else it would seem that LILO would fail the next time
I booted if virtual memory had been used. Just what are the facts?
Are there any circumstances under which this configuation
could lead to a problem?
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Peter Hutchison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: disable nfs services
Date: 10 Aug 1999 21:38:33 -0000
In response to your last message ("nicolas.gasnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
about disable nfs services, I had to say this:
> My kernel (2.2.9) is compiled without nfs support. But at the start, I
> get some
> messages about it (like starting nfs daemon [failed]). How can I get
> rid of this
> annoying messages ?
> My distrib is a Mandrake (RH) 6.0.
Its probably running a nfsd (or similar program) from the startup script
(.rc or whatever) in the /etc directory.
P.J.Hutchison
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The future and beyond
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Upgrade from RH5.2 to 6
From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 11 Aug 1999 16:13:52 -0700
"Aaron Dershem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've gotten RH5.2 installed at home and it runs just fine. I even upgraded
> the kernel to 2.2.6 with no hitches. Are there any compelling reasons to
> upgrade to 6.0? If so, is there a lot of work involved, or is it just a
> matter of upgrading the RPMs?
I've been upgrading RH about once a year for several years. I've never
HAD to upgrade to support any particular thing. I don't care to upgrade
just for the hell of it. But what happens is that you'll want to
upgrade something (to support some upgraded application) which would
require upgrading several other things each of which would require
upgrading other things. Soon you decide you'd rather upgrade the whole
thing.
--
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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From: Elchonon Edelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any Support for PCI Modems?
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:49:00 GMT
Jon Skeet wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi!
> > I Just got a PCI Modem and found out that they are not supported at all
> > in Linux. Is there anyone who is looking into that? This is not a
> > winmodem (it does not say "winmodem", but it says you need windoze) If
> > there is going to be support, I will keep it, if not, I guess I will
> > have to get rid of it.
>
> Winmodem isn't an official term - it's not the kind of thing you'll see
> on a box. Suffice to say, the chances are very high that it *is* a
> winmodem.
WinModem is an official term. Trademark of one particular company
that manufactures HSP modems. (Anyone know which company?) I have
seen it printed on the boxes. Since it is a trademark, only that
company can use it, which is why not seeing the word "WinModem" on
the box does not constitute proof that it is a Real modem.
--
Elchonon Edelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IntelliSoft Corp. http://isoft.com/
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff)
Subject: Re: Connect to ISP when phone rings: is this possible?
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 23:17:57 GMT
In article <7orsvf$d72$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Patrick M. Geahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : how is this possible if u dont know the IP address of your computer once
> : its connected to your ISP? Obviously its going to be different each time
> : u connect and since u would be telnetting u would need to know the IP of
> : the computer, right?
>
> Certain dynamic IP name resolving services will let you update the IP addy
> by email or some such, so that could work. In addition, he could simply
> have his PPP login script mail him the IP addy after he gets connected.
>
I've always used this cute little trick:
sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] < ifconfig ppp0
Pages my alpha-numeric pager with the IP address, and I'm ready to go.
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /etc/issue.net
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:07:49 -0600
"Brian D. Jones" wrote:
> For some reason, /etc/issue.net (text that gets displayed when machine
> is telnetted to) keeps getting remade maybe every day (I haven't kept
> track). Why? How do I make this stop, or how do I control how and when
> it remakes itself?
You don't say what distribution you're using, but RedHat at
least re-writes /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net whenever you
boot. This is done in the /etc/rc.d/rc.local script on my
machine:
[clip]
# This will overwrite /etc/issue at every boot. So, make
any changes you
# want to make to /etc/issue here or you will lose them when
you reboot.
echo "" > /etc/issue
echo "Red Hat Linux $R" >> /etc/issue
echo "Kernel $(uname -r) on $a $(uname -m)" >> /etc/issue
cp -f /etc/issue /etc/issue.net
echo >> /etc/issue
[/clip]
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any Support for PCI Modems?
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:57:52 -0600
Jeremy wrote:
> I Just got a PCI Modem and found out that they are not supported at all
> in Linux.
PCI modems are not usable in linux because the vast majority
of PCI "modems" are not really modems, but simple signal
processors that require a software driver to emulate a
modem, using your CPU instead of on-board hardware to do the
grunt work. If you've got a lot more CPU power than you
generally need, this isn't a bad trade-off I suppose, as it
makes the "modem" hardware considerably cheaper to produce,
but chances are you'll eventually get to a point where you'd
rather have your CPU doing something besides pretending to
be a modem.
> Is there anyone who is looking into that? This is not a
> winmodem (it does not say "winmodem", but it says you need windoze) If
> there is going to be support, I will keep it, if not, I guess I will
> have to get rid of it.
Bottom line: if it doesn't say that it will work with
non-Windows operating systems (eg DOS, OS/2, linux, etc.)
then chances are it is a software "modem" that will not
function in linux.
The problem with supporting these devices in linux is that
the manufacturers haven't been willing to either write the
necessary drivers to allow the devices to work in linux or
release the technical specifications needed for others to do
so for them. Lacking these spec's the project becomes a
tedious "reverse-engineering" problem to figure out how each
device works (and there's no guarentee that what works for
one manufacturer or model will work for any others) before
you can even get started at writing the proper drivers.
Small wonder there's no great enthusiasm for this project.
And then there's the question of why you'd want to tie up a
high-bandwidth PCI slot with a low-bandwidth device like a
modem anyway...
> If PCI Modems are not supported, what other PCI
> cards are not? controllers, sound, ect.... I was trying to free up a
> ISA slot.
Most other devices are OK; check the hardware compatibility
lists to be sure.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Barry J. Grundy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: startx -- -bpp 16.....too long to type
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:21:49 -0400
> >Nevyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>i want to keep using startx to start x but i like to start it like
> >>above, and would like to know if i can modify a file so i can go back to
> >>just typing startx but still getting the better colour depth....any
> >>ideas??
Find the "screen" section that you are using in your XF86Config file. At
the bottom, add a line to set the default color depth.
Here is the bottom of my screen section with the added command:
###All other "Display" sections
Subsection "Display"
Depth 32
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
# added this to set the default Color Depth to 16 -- Barry Grundy
DefaultColorDepth 16
EndSection
Note the command "DefaultColorDepth". I have mine set to 16, you can set it
to anyone you want. This beats the hell out of typing "startx --bpp 16"
Barry
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Barry J. Grundy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http:\\home.columbus.rr.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Batch Converting Graphics, is there a way?
Date: 10 Aug 1999 11:49:07 -0700
Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Where can i find pbm?
pbm is a graphic format-see pbm(5) for details. You may be thinking
of the netbpm package which is most likely either already installed or
included in your distribution. If not, it's available from the usual
places.
-ckm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Hunt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 99 23:29:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] "MK" writes:
> >The advantage of a nationalized health care system is the elimination
> >of bureaucracy, elimination of competition and redundancy, elimination
> >of much profiteering by corporations, doctors and hospitals.
>
> ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL
>
> Maybe you talk about planet Xyzzy, but definitely not about planet
> Earth! On planet Earth, precisely proliferation of bureaucracy and
> poor and expensive management of health care is what is hallmark of
> nationalized healthcare.
>
> >This is
> >why a nationalized scheme *MUST* be cheaper.
>
> Your "must be" is basically because you say so. The problem is,
> it plain is not that way. Try UK, France, most of Europe, basically
> any country with nationalized healthcare. Same problem.
Some facts:
1. US healthcare spending per person is 3.5 times higher than UK
healthcare spending per person
2. In the UK, people live longer than in the USA, and have lower infant
mortality.
3. In the UK, mortality up to the age of 50 is lower than in any
other country in the world.
--
Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 00:58:38 +0200
From: me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: telnet question
hello
Is there a way to transfer files from a computer i've telnetted to, to
my own computer ?
eg. if i telnetted to server abc.com, is there a way to copy files
directly from that computer (ie. abc.com) to my computer (ie localhost)?
thanx (in advance)
ali ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Forkosh)
Subject: Re: What is Applixware?
Date: 11 Aug 1999 20:03:51 -0400
Leonard Evens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: > I just installed Red hat 6.0 and I need to know if Applixware
: > comes w/RH6.0 applications CD and/or where can I Download it?
: If you get the official RH6.0 release, it comes with an application
: disk that has a demo version. You have to pay for the real version.
: You can find out more about it by looking at www.applix.com
: If you want a free Office type product, consider Star Office.
This month's issue of Server/Workstation Expert (S/W Expert,
August 1999, pages 65-70) has a detailed review of Applixware.
To complement that (coincidentally???), this week's issue of
Information Week (IW, August 9, 1999, pages 63-70) has a
detailed review of StarOffice.
I've never used either, but am frequently forced to use MS Word
by clients that have standardized on it...which is pretty much
everybody. I haven't found time to check out Applixware and
StarOffice, to see which provides the better MS Word work-alike,
and the better import/export to Word format. If I were really
happy with one, I could spend more time under Linux, while
simultaneously keeping clients happy.
Anybody care to follow up with real world experiences?
Thanks,
John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any Support for PCI Modems?
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:59:32 -0600
Alex Flinsch wrote:
>
> Nicholas Pappas wrote:
>
> >
> > Why? (1) Because you have all the lights to tell you exactly what is
> > happening in your connection and (2) THEY ARE NOT WINMODEMS! (I don't think
> > it is possible to make an external WinModem).
>
> I saw an external modem at compusa the other day and it specifically stated "Windows
> Version" on the outside of the box, but I don't know if that means that it is a
> "winmodem" or that it came with some Windows software. There was also a box marked
> "Macintosh Version" on the shelf next to it.
IIRC, the difference between a PC and Mac external modem is
usually just the type of connectors on the cable.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hobbyist_=A9?=)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:00:52 -0400
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:57:17 GMT, MK wrote these sagacious words
:
: By no means: it's just the very special situation. Historically
: speaking, the very new situation: computer on each desk,
: _totally_ different demographics of users, and so on. The popular
: solution is completely different from high-end solution.
Indeed! Indeed!
: Accountants
: wanted to lynch Henry Ford when he proposed so low prices
: for his cars. They thought HF was crazy. He wasn't crazy, just
: his competition producing high-end expensive cars was put
: out of business. They were not able to adapt to new conditions.
: Mentally. They had their set of beliefs that they refused to drop.
: So they died. In that time, you would claim that "market is
: failiing to produce optimum results" as well. It's not: it is
: just in phase of starving exceptionally dense and stubborn
: producers to death.
That's a very good parallel situation to propose.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan C Busey)
Subject: linux mem=80M too long
Date: 12 Aug 1999 00:06:11 GMT
I can't find a way to append my lilo to include this at boot; how can I
have this included automatically?
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From: haze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: telnet question
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:47:07 GMT
try ftp
HAZE
me wrote:
> hello
>
> Is there a way to transfer files from a computer i've telnetted to, to
> my own computer ?
>
> eg. if i telnetted to server abc.com, is there a way to copy files
> directly from that computer (ie. abc.com) to my computer (ie localhost)?
>
> thanx (in advance)
> ali ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: ONLY ADULTS 13957
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:16:10 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Free XXX:
http://207.240.225.250
ygDSTQZ@
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From: "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux - cable modem
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 00:06:10 GMT
Hi, I currently have cox@home cable modem service on my windows 98 computer.
I've installed RH 5.2 on a separate partition so my computer dual boots.
Now I plan to hook up my cable modem service to my Linux OS. What do I need
to protect my computer from the internet? And where should I go to find
documentation on how to go about it? Why don't I need "protection" when
using windows is also something I'm curious about.
Thanks a lot!
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From: Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSE 6.1 kppp - instructions which worked for me!
Date: 10 Aug 1999 12:11:46 -0700
Teonanacatl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Log on to your system as root. Start x going.
Bad! Don't run X as root. Use su or sudo, then start the client if
it must be done as root.
-ckm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B'ichela)
Crossposted-To: comp.software.year-2000,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Thousands of ATMs dead due to MCI
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:18:18 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 05:14:18 GMT, Wu Li Grandmaster
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Just heard it, but it's been going on for 4 DAYS !
>
>Most of their frame relay system is screwed. It was so bad
>at one point WorldCom declared a "quiet period" so techs would
>stop working and they could see where the problems were.
>
>Many small ISP's are getting screwed and several may
>not stay in business due to customer's fleeing.
That might explain why my dynamic name service provider
Http://www.dhis.org their Solaris DNS server according to whois
dhis.org is located in portugal! has been DOWN for 4 days (gripe,
grumble) if you are going to reply. please use the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
address instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Point is, how long will it be before MCI Worldcom's data
division gets back online?
--
A pearl of wisdom from the y2K newsgroups:
=========================================================================
Y2K appears to be the Baby Boomers mid-life crisis, and it has the
potential to be a dandy.
-- Anonymnous --
==========================================================================
B'ichela
N O T E
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If [EMAIL PROTECTED] don't work try [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Plaut)
Subject: repeated disk access under 2.2.11
Date: 11 Aug 1999 23:54:17 GMT
I just installed the 2.2.11 kernel (under RedHat 5.1 on an NEC Versa SX laptop)
and some process is accessing the disk about every 10 seconds or so. There's
nothing unusual in the system log file. This problem doesn't occur under
2.2.10.
Can anyone give me a clue on what this might be or how I might track it down?
-Dave
--
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
David Plaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dept. of Psychology, Carnegie Mellon Univ.
Mellon Institute 115--CNBC, 4400 Fifth Avenue, Pittsburgh PA 15213-2683
http://www.cnbc.cmu.edu/~plaut, MI 115I, 412/268-5145 (fax -5060)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Edson)
Subject: Re: Disk partitioning question for Dell Dimension XPS
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:40:11 -0700
Well, it may be a little late getting back to you, but I
just installed Linux on an XPS r-400 today, using Partion
Magic. I was able to install PM w/o the problems you had.
When I went to resize the Win98 partion, PM generated a ton
of error messages. These may have been because of the ZZTOP
image, but I don't know. In any event, the resizing worked,
I formatted the Linux partitions with Partion Magic,
installed Linux, and both Win98 and Linux work fine now.
(Well, I've got a ton of configuration problems w/Linux, but
the installation itself was OK.)
I'd be glad to check to see if the ZZTOP image is still on
the disk (I doubt it), but I can't figure out how I might do
that w/o actually running the program, which (if the image
is still there) would overwrite all my files.
One solution: Do a complete backup of your drive to tape.
Then, if things get fouled up, you can reinstall from the
tape and not have to worry about Dell's ZZTOP image, which
they're so secretive about anyway.
Hope this is of some help.
--note real email address: mmedson at att dot net
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> Does this make sense to anyone?
> We got a Dell Dimension XPS with a 13.7 Gig disk. It came
> of course with Windows 98 installed, and we planned to
> resize it and then install Linux. We installed Partition
> Magic under Windows intending to use it to resize the
> Windows partition. But before attempting that, we discovered
> that we could not get the nic working under Windows, and the
> machine repeatedly hung on restart. We
> called Dell, and the Tech consultant after some false tries
> decided the registry had got corrupted (the most likely
> suspect being the installation of Partition Magic, not its
> use, since we didn't use it, although
> that does seem strange). He had us run a special Dell
> recovery which restored the disk to factory default by
> copying from some hidden part of the disk. The Tech
> insisted this part of the disk was hidden from everything,
> and that it would be wiped out by using Partition Magic
> or by installing Linux. He said that it would look to
> Linux and Parition Magic as unused space, whatever that
> is supposed to mean, and that it was outside the initial
> Windows partition. We started the Linux installation and
> went far enough to run fdisk so we could examine the disk.
> fdisk claimed the disk had 1662 cylinders and that the
> Windows partition hda1 took up all 1662 of them. The
> amount of disk space from that number of cylinders came
> to just about 13.7 GB. Also running the Windows fdisk
> seemed to confirm this. So I don't see how there could be
> anything outside the Windows partition. Nor can I see
> how the Dell recovery program could get access to it if
> it were. We did a defrag on the Windows partition and
> discovered some sectors at the end of the disk were left
> in place. I suspect that is where the factory default
> files are stored. I also suspect that fips2 will fail
> on this disk since there are files in the Windows partition
> which can't be moved out of the way, but I don't know if
> it would mess anything up or just give up. I think
> Partition Magic should in principle be able to handle
> the situation. But of course using it (or fips2 if it
> works) could make the material for copying the factory
> default not available under Windows. Since this machine
> is for a colleague who presently plans mainly to use
> Windows, I am reluctant to proceed without a better understanding
> of these issues. Normally I would go ahead and install
> Linux, and if Windows developed problems, I would reinstall
> that also. But it seems Windows on this machine has a hard
> time finding drivers. Earlier, we removed the network adapter from
> the device drivers and had an awful time reinstalling it
> because we couldn't convince Windows to look in the right
> place. So reinstalling all the Windows device drivers for
> this machine could be a nightmare.
>
> Any helpful information from people who have installed
> Linux on a Dell Dimension would be appreciated.
>
>
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