Linux-Misc Digest #536, Volume #20 Tue, 8 Jun 99 01:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Where can I get a free copy? (Robert Heller)
Re: Linux/gcc Newbie Question: (Robert Heller)
Re: ipfwadm only works for sometimes ("RJHM van den Bergh")
NEC ide 4 disc changer ("Will Elmes")
Re: OpenLinux (Tim Sutherland)
Re: 2.2.5-15 kernel eats memory! (William Burrow)
Cant copy linux to hard disk (User941444)
Re: RealPlayer G2... (Michael Powe)
Re: dmesg: Unknown PCI device (Bob Martin)
Re: Large CD-ROM file errors...? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: /etc/securetty question ("Charles Wilkins")
Re: RealPlayer G2... (Bev)
Re: Linux(Unix) directory structure (Scott Lanning)
Re: Cant copy linux to hard disk (Johan Kullstam)
Is ATI Xpert 99 AGP 8Mb supported with Linux 6.0? (Momcilo Corovic)
Re: Where can I get a free copy? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: dmesg: Unknown PCI device (Johan Kullstam)
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where can I get a free copy?
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 01:31:47 GMT
Cardiac Cardinals <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Mon, 07 Jun 1999 08:58:55 -0700, wrote :
CC> Hello,
CC>
CC> Where can I go to get a copy of Red Hat Linux? Also, will this install
CC> on my existing NT box?
Visit http://www.redhat.com/mirrors.html and pick a ftp site that is
near you. You'll need about 600meg or so of disk space to download to.
If you are going to install from hard disk, this should be a partition
that Linux can deal with (eg. FAT16) and one that won't be clobbered
during the install. Given the size, you probably don't want to download
it via a modem connection. It should also be possible to burn a CD-ROM.
CC>
CC> --
CC> *************************************************
CC> Mike Murray
CC> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC> ICQ# 12092418
CC>
CC> http://az.csuchico.edu/ffl/iffl
CC> Home of the International Fantasy Football League
CC> *************************************************
CC>
CC>
CC>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux/gcc Newbie Question:
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 01:31:36 GMT
Salvador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Sun, 06 Jun 1999 19:02:22 -0600, wrote :
S> Hi,
S>
S> I recently migrated from Win 9x to Linux. After getting my OS's set up
S> (I am running RedHat 5.2 on a laptop and S.u.S.E 6.1 on a desktop), I
S> set about testing the gcc compiler. I compiled a HelloWorld script
S> using g++ -o file file.C. The compile went okay. I then executed the
S> program with exec /path/to/file
S>
S> The program executed, but after executing, it kicked me out of my login
S> shell and I was forced to login again. I tested this on the system
S> running RedHat, and the system running S.u.S.E. It did it in both
S> cases.
The 'exec' command in most shells (sh, bash, csh, etc.) *replaces* the
shell program with the new program in the same process. The shell is at
that point gone. When the program exits, the process terminates (you
are logged out). This is *normal*, expected behavior, but not what you
want. You don't need to do this. Just type:
/path/to/file
at the shell prompt.
This forks a new process (a child of the current shell) and loads the
specified program file into it and starts it up. The shell process
then waits for the child process to go away (it uses some flavor of
'wait()' system call). When the child process (your program) exits, the
shell resumes control -- it prints a new shell prompt and accepts a new
command or program to run.
S>
S> The profiles that I was logged in as had ownership over the directory
S> (/home/user), it did it both when logged in with a user account, and
S> when logged in to root.
Right. /bin/sh behaves the same (modulo your various ~/.login, ~/.profile,
~/.cshrc, ~/.bashrc, etc. files) no matter who you are.
S>
S> For the record, I have looked in the comp.c.lang faq index, and there
S> was no reference to this problem, I looked in the tw.bbs.linux faq, and
S> there was no reference. I did a few searches on DejaNews, and though I
S> found 1 reference to this problem, there was no resolution offered.
It is not a C problem, but a shell usage issue. 'man bash', 'man csh',
etc. would give you the answers you seek -- from 'man bash':
exec [[-] command [arguments]]
If command is specified, it replaces the shell. No
new process is created. The arguments become the
arguments to command. If the first argument is -,
the shell places a dash in the zeroth arg passed to
command. This is what login does. If the file
cannot be executed for some reason, a non-interac-
tive shell exits, unless the shell variable
no_exit_on_failed_exec exists, in which case it
returns failure. An interactive shell returns
failure if the file cannot be executed. If command
is not specified, any redirections take effect in
the current shell, and the return status is 0.
Other shells (csh, tcsh, ksh, etc.) behave much the same.
S>
S> Does anyone know what the cause could be, and how I can remedy it?
S>
S> I appreciate any help that people might have to offer.
S>
S>
S>
S>
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From: "RJHM van den Bergh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: ipfwadm only works for sometimes
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 02:54:41 +0200
One of the sites is
www.worldonline.be
if I do a nslookup its IP is 212.233.1.66
But when I try a a reverse lookup the hostname from the IP it isn't found.
Conclusion their DNS server isn't configured the right way.
Also 212.233.1.66 seems also to be a name server to.
Another site is
www.ifcn.nl its IP is 195.86.34.10
195.86.34.10 corresponds with ns.1-4-all.nl
So this is also a name server
So I'm beginning to suspect a misconfiguration of dns servers.
At least the DNS server of worldonline.be isn't correctly configured.
No referse lookups
But it should be strange if this is the cause.
Rob,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RJHM van den Bergh wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
<SNIP>
>I do have a problem with Linux RedHat 5.1 and ipfwadm.
>
>Situation:
>ppp0 with external ISDN TA
>Private LAN 10.0.0.0
>The Linux box acts as a gateway to the internet.
>Attached on the Linux Box is an NT workstation.
>
>With the Linux box I can surf to every site.
>With the NT box I can surf to allmost every site.
>I use ipfwadm on the Linux box to do masquarading.
>
>At the end fo this email I attached the firewall script.
>I'm totaly confused why I can't reach some sites.
>DNS seems to work loging the ipfwadm shows
>Jun 7 20:33:46 jads kernel: IP fw-in acc ppp0 TCP 212.233.1.66:80 194
>.159.226.43:61250 L=44 S=0x00 I=4374 F=0x0040 T=118
.......
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From: "Will Elmes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NEC ide 4 disc changer
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 03:04:03 GMT
anyone know how to get (or if it is possible) an NEC cd changer to work
normally under linux? i can only get the first disc to mount, which doesn't
surprise me, but i am wondering if there was some sort of application or
patch to allow all 4 cds to be mounted at once. thanks in advance.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Sutherland)
Crossposted-To: nz.comp
Subject: Re: OpenLinux
Date: 8 Jun 1999 03:31:59 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Patrick Dunford wrote:
>I see OpenLinux got a good review in NZ PC World this month. What do people
>think of it?
I haven't used the Caldera distribution (Caldera OpenLinux) but I hear their
new version is the easiest to install so far. Asking such open ended questions
about a particular distribution like this is discouraged though, due to the
likelihood of it causing a flamewar (mostly by Emacs fans who now advocate
tough gun control laws after the VI'ers won the paintball). At least
<F5><F5><F5><F5><F5><F5>
Of GNU/Linux in general, I personally like it for various reasons, you might
for others. I note that Caldera installs KDE by default, so you will have an
easy environment to start with. It also comes with some proprietary software
(Star Office for example) which you may or may not care about.
Stability with the Linux kernel is good, downtime on my system is caused by
power cuts (and hardware related problems). The GNU software is of very high
quality.
Be sure to look for your hardware in the Hardware-HOWTO (metalab.unc.edu/LDP),
although this documentation is out of date it is a good start. Also xfree86.org
to check your video card, although Caldera's distribution may also come with a
proprietary X server which may support more cards.
GNU/Linux excels at network related tasks. The box I use is a mail(smtp,pop3),
DNS, and firewall server for my home LAN, and has at times performed duties as
a web, database, ftp and irc server.
I have a brother that also uses GNU/Linux, although purely as a desktop system.
Of a completely unrelated note, it is interesting that a computer he won
(supposedly worth NZ$10,000 in November) - an AMD K6-300, 32MB ram, some ATI
video card (soldered into the motherboard, ugh) appears slower than my Pentium
75 with the same amount of RAM and a 1MB S3 868 video card bought for NZ$3000
in January 1995 (which actually runs Enlightenment and GNOME at a fair speed.
Not that I use any X apps, but still. The people that say E is a memory hog are
confused, it uses around the same as Window Maker with a fairly modest theme).
Both in Windows 98 and GNU/Linux. On the other hand, with the 2.2 Linux kernel
it was considerably faster than now (it's using the Debian 2.0 release, which
has several show stopping issues with the 2.2 kernel so is using 2.0.36
currently).
As you appear to be quite interested in computers Patrick, you will learn a lot
from using GNU/Linux. I know that in the one and a half years I've been using
it I have learnt a lot. Now I just need to get a bigger hard drive so I can try
out FreeBSD :)
--
Better living a beggar than buried an emperor.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: 2.2.5-15 kernel eats memory!
Date: 8 Jun 1999 02:32:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 7 Jun 1999 11:52:34 GMT,
Markus Wandel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>However Netscape 4.07 as it comes with RH5.2 also has a memory leak, it
>occurs when composing an email message on Yahoo, and it can lose several
>kilobytes PER KEYSTROKE. I just managed to stop my house mate from
>crashing my machine when Netscape was at 226 megabytes and growing.
>Since then I've hacked a little script which displays current Netscape
>memory usage in a little windows so he can quit and restart if it goes
>crazy. This only occurs when composing email messages on Yahoo.
I believe this is in a TEXTAREA. Encountered this problem on another
site that required some data be entered in a TEXTAREA. I have xcpustate
running, but wasn't looking at it the first time it happened -- what a
shock!
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (User941444)
Subject: Cant copy linux to hard disk
Date: 8 Jun 1999 03:11:03 GMT
Hello.
I have a copy of Red Hat Linux 6 and want to install the os from my hard drive
due to Laptop prob, anyway, when I attempt to copy the contents of the disc
windows 98 reports that it can not copy "translation table". Can Red hat be
installed from the HDD, from a FAT 32 partition. If not How can In install it
on
a system where the cdrom is not visible in dos as there is no cdrom attached to
the laptop. Only direct cable connection to a larger pc with a cd rom drive.
Thanks
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2...
Date: 07 Jun 1999 18:40:56 -0700
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>>>>> "Chuck" == Chuck Cusack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Chuck> I keep reading about RealPlayer G2, and there is no Linux
Chuck> version listed on the realplayer site. Where are people
Chuck> getting it? Also I have read that RealPlayer has problems
Chuck> under RedHat 6.0 Is this true, and if so, does this alleged
Chuck> G2 version work O.K. Chuck
����eah, it's there.
http://www.real.com/products/player/downloadrealplayer.html
It doesn't work on my Slackware box, though -- it's libc6.
mp
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Portland, Oregon USA http://www.trollope.org
"There are certain rights that a woman loses when she becomes a
wife." -- Farrah Fawcett
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dmesg: Unknown PCI device
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 03:12:38 +0000
Johan Kullstam wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have a cheap 56K modem I picked up at Best Buy for $19. It's a PCI
> > PnP modem, works beautifully under Win95. I'm using TurboLinux 2.0
> > (based on RedHat), kernel version 2.0.33.
>
> sorry.
>
> PCI => host signal processing aka software modem aka winmodem.
>
> there are afaik no pci modems which work with linux.
>
Not true, there are PCI bus modems which are not winmodems. 99% of
winmodems use PCI bus but all PCI bus modems are not winmodems.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Large CD-ROM file errors...?
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 00:50:23 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I got a friend to burn the StarOffice 5.1
download onto a CD-R for me
>
> On getting home, I booted up Linux (2.2.9, with
full CD support
> including Joliet compiled in) and tried to copy
the 70.6MB file.
> However, Linux could only see the first 16MB or
thereabouts.
I've got the same problem with CD-R's written
under Win95. If you look at /var/log/messages
you'll see some errors like this:
kernel: isofs_read_level3_size: More than 100 file
sections ?!?, aborting...
I got around this by patching fs/isofs/inode.c,
just above this error message, and another similar
one, to use 10000 retries insted of 100. It looks
like some CD-R's will get written with many
fragments.
Can anyone confirm this is the fix?
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From: "Charles Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /etc/securetty question
Date: 8 Jun 1999 03:27:59 GMT
More like a security canyon . . .
Peter Englmaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Dion Rivera [ESRI-Redlands] wrote:
> >
> > Hi supertechs,
> > I want to be able to telnet and loggin as root from another system. I
> > know that the /etc/securetty controls this setting, but I don't know
> > what the syntax is to allow remote root logins.Help !
> >
> > -Dion
> You have to remove the securetty module from your /etc/pam.d/login
> and /etc/pam.d/telnet files. You generate a security hole however, but
> maybe you are not concerned by this.
>
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From: Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2...
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 21:00:42 -0700
Reply-To: Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Michael Powe wrote:
>
> >>>>> "Chuck" == Chuck Cusack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Chuck> I keep reading about RealPlayer G2, and there is no Linux
> Chuck> version listed on the realplayer site. Where are people
> Chuck> getting it? Also I have read that RealPlayer has problems
> Chuck> under RedHat 6.0 Is this true, and if so, does this alleged
> Chuck> G2 version work O.K. Chuck
>
> ����eah, it's there.
>
> http://www.real.com/products/player/downloadrealplayer.html
>
> It doesn't work on my Slackware box, though -- it's libc6.
Thankyouthankyouthankyou for posting! I downloaded it but hadn't gotten
around to wrestling with the install yet...
--
Cheers,
Bev (another happy Slackware user)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Calling someone an asshole for being rude to a telemarketer
is like accusing someone who's shot a burglar in his home
of being a poor host." -- W.S.Rowell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux(Unix) directory structure
Date: 8 Jun 1999 02:56:31 GMT
!? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Does anyone know where there might be a FAQ on the
: Linux directory structure. I have been using "gcc"
: for about 4 years(school) and Redhat Linux 5.2 for about
: one year. I have always wanted to find a detailed
: explanation of the Linux directory structure.
Linux system administrator's guide:
http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/sag/c212.html
Ext2fs:
http://khg.redhat.com/HyperNews/get/fs/ext2intro.html
Also Steven's Advanced Programming in the Unix Environment
has good explanation of files/directories.
Linux source navigator:
http://metalab.unc.edu/navigator-bin/navigator.cgi?
--
Scott Lanning: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://physics.bu.edu/~slanning
"Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of
one's native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer."
--Edsger Dijkstra
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Subject: Re: Cant copy linux to hard disk
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 07 Jun 1999 23:52:44 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (User941444) writes:
> Hello.
> I have a copy of Red Hat Linux 6 and want to install the os from my
> hard drive due to Laptop prob, anyway, when I attempt to copy the
> contents of the disc windows 98 reports that it can not copy
> "translation table". Can Red hat be installed from the HDD,
yes.
> from a
> FAT 32 partition.
i have used an ext2 partition. fat32 may or may not be supported. i
do not know. i would hope fat32 is supported.
> If not How can In install it on a system where the
> cdrom is not visible in dos as there is no cdrom attached to the
> laptop. Only direct cable connection to a larger pc with a cd rom
> drive.
i like install via ftp. if you have a network connexion to a larger
pc with cdrom drive, linux and an ftp server you are all set. ftp
install has worked many times for me.
> Thanks
hope this helps.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: Momcilo Corovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Is ATI Xpert 99 AGP 8Mb supported with Linux 6.0?
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 04:36:01 GMT
Hello,
I would appreciate your help on this matter:
My Graphic card is ATI Xpert 99 AGP 8Mb SDRAM ATI
with ATI Rage 128 VR AGP.
This card is not recognized by the redhat Linux 5.2.
I have tried to configure it manually but it did not work.
Is this graphic card supported with the Linux 6.0?
Thank you very much,
Momcilo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Where can I get a free copy?
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 03:07:45 GMT
You can get a copy of RedHat 6.0 on CD-ROM for $5.95 including shipping
from Linux-Now. They are even cheaper than Cheapbytes and Linux Mall.
Try http://www.linux-now.com
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Cardiac Cardinals <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Where can I go to get a copy of Red Hat Linux? Also, will this install
> on my existing NT box?
>
> --
> *************************************************
> Mike Murray
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ICQ# 12092418
>
> http://az.csuchico.edu/ffl/iffl
> Home of the International Fantasy Football League
> *************************************************
>
>
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Subject: Re: dmesg: Unknown PCI device
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 07 Jun 1999 23:26:44 -0400
Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Johan Kullstam wrote:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I have a cheap 56K modem I picked up at Best Buy for $19. It's a PCI
> > > PnP modem, works beautifully under Win95. I'm using TurboLinux 2.0
> > > (based on RedHat), kernel version 2.0.33.
> >
> > sorry.
> >
> > PCI => host signal processing aka software modem aka winmodem.
> >
> > there are afaik no pci modems which work with linux.
> >
>
> Not true, there are PCI bus modems which are not winmodems. 99% of
> winmodems use PCI bus but all PCI bus modems are not winmodems.
perhaps. many are simply controllerless (the AT command parsing being
performed in host software - not a bad idea if only specs for the
interface were released).
whatever you call it, pci modems do not work in linux.
i'd like to be wrong on this one. please name a pci modem that *does
work* in linux. no rumors, just something working.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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