Linux-Misc Digest #536, Volume #27 Thu, 5 Apr 01 07:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: I would like to register a complaint ... ("Eric")
Re: Mandrake 7.2 Menus are gigantic (Chris Gordon-Smith)
Re: Netscape 4.76 unter Suse 7 - Plugins (Andreas Delp)
inetd.conf (Federico Bravo)
Re: HELP: cygwin ("Leon")
Re: Root cannot login ("Dennis")
Re: inetd.conf ("Katriel Traum")
KNode German Umlaute ("Kerem Bilge")
KNode Umlaute ("Kerem Bilge")
kwintv and xawtv (Helmut Leinfellner)
Re: I would like to register a complaint ... (Query_String)
Re: Root cannot login ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: add config (lmc83)
How to restart apache webserver on suse linux 7.1? ("Jan Vandesompele")
all Linux newsgroups are available on etin.com public Web server ("ETIN.COM Support")
how to dis-partition? ("ekkis")
Re: How to restart apache webserver on suse linux 7.1? ("Jan Vandesompele")
Re: how to dis-partition? ("You, Jin-Ho")
Re: other editors? (Thomas Dickey)
Re: pgp not found although the binary is there (Stefan Kuhn)
Re: Using RPM with RH5.2 ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: FAT CR/LF conversion (Yvan Loranger)
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I would like to register a complaint ...
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:42:03 +0200
>
> The "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdxX" or "cat /dev/zero /dev/hdxX" IS NOT the
way
> to do this because not only does it wipe out the superblocks but fills the
> entire partition with one huge file full of zeros that involves entirely
> something else to get rid of. BAD ADVISE, ERIC!!
Which was exactly what he wanted.
So GOOD ADVISE, ERIC!!
Eric
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From: Chris Gordon-Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2 Menus are gigantic
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:08:23 +0100
I hit a problem like this a while ago. As I recall, I had managed (more or
less inadvertently) to change the characterset in use by KDE. I fixed the
problem by using the KDE configuration facilities. Because menus and
dialogue boxes had become huge, the OK button on some screens was off the
screen, and the only way to get them onto the screen was to use the feature
that lets you drag a window by pressing the ALT key and then placing the
mouse cursor on any part of the window and dragging.
Chris Gordon-Smith
Londion UK
mike wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I had Mandrake 7.2 running and recently I added a
> Jaton TNT2 M64 AGP video card. The first time I
> ran Mandrake after the install I installed the new X
> SVGA server for the card that is part of Mandrake 7.2.
> I ran X and was testing / viewing the desktop and
> various functions.
> The last thing that I did was to double click on the time icon
> in the lower right corner and set the clock. I went back to it
> and somehow all the desktop menus got gigantic. I don't
> know exactly what happened.
> Is it some instability in the new video card / current video
> server or did I just accidentally click on something that selected
> gigantic menus?
> How to restore it?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
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From: Andreas Delp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.76 unter Suse 7 - Plugins
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 09:01:16 +0200
> mein Netscape st�rzt gelegentlich ohne Fehler einfach ab, Fenster zu das
> wars!
>
Das ist normal. Bus error. Netscape ist nicht unbedingt ein
Stabilit�tswunder.
Aber es gibt Hoffnung: Konqueror (KDE2), Mozilla
>
> Ich hab bemerkt da� "about:plugins" nichts anzeigt, habe dann �ber
> "Einstellungen" alle Plugins (Programme) rausgeworfen, keine �nderung.
>
Plugins brauch Du nur, wenn Du bestimmte Seiten anschauen m�chtest.
Die entsprechende Seite macht Dich schon darauf aufmerksam.
H�ufig benutzt wird z.B. der Flash Player (Macromedia).
Dann kannst Du Dir z.B. www.joecartoon.com anschauen.
Ansonsten: Installiere nur was Du brauchst.
Schneller und stabiler wird ein System durch Masse selten.
Grussi, Andreas
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From: Federico Bravo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: inetd.conf
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 07:26:32 GMT
I'm running RH 7.0. and there's no inetd.conf in /etc. I've read that
that has moved to xinetd, but I can't really find out what file is
looked for by inetd, supposing inetd is still the 'super server'. So
please tell me where should put my hands to in order to remove all
internet services I don't need. Thanks.
Federico.
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From: "Leon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP: cygwin
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:33:11 +0800
thank you. Now I understand the problem.
I should use \\ instead of \ in the local
path.
Leon
Bob Hauck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:35:48 +0800, Leon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >in Cygwin I use the mount command,
> >
> >mount d:\mydir /linkdir
> >
> >but get a response "mount: /linkdir: Invalid argument".
>
> Did you create /linkdir?
>
> --
> -| Bob Hauck
> -| To Whom You Are Speaking
> -| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: "Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Root cannot login
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:19:54 +0400
Hi
I have been able to boot in single mode. However i don't seem to have this
tklogin file on my system nor on the original redhat cds.
Can you tell me where does RH looks for this tklogin file. I checked
/etc/inittab but found nothing
Thanks
Dennis
"Jacob Kristensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Dennis wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> > I have come across a RedHat 6.0 server with the following problem:
> >
> > Root or any user can't login.
> >
> > At the prompt, I get this error message after putting the username :
> >
> > "/usr/bin/tklogin : No such file or directory"
> >
> > It does not even prompt for the password
> >
> > Web & Mail services are functioning
> >
> > How can I solve this?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Rgds
> >
> > Dennis
> Boot the box. Give lilo an argument like:
> linux S
> linux init=/bin/bash
> linux init=/sbin/bash
> linux init/bin/sh
>
> then get hold of the missing file somehow and put it in the appropriate
> place..
>
> Jacob
> --
>
> There he goes... One of Gods own prototypes.
> A high-powered mutant of some kind,
> never even considered for mass production.
> Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
> Jacob Kristensen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Katriel Traum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: inetd.conf
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:41:08 +0200
well, first of all there should be a /etc/xinetd.conf if I'm not mistaken.
Any additional services's xinetd configuration will be under /etc/xinetd.d/
where each service has a configuration file of it's own.
Katriel.
"Federico Bravo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm running RH 7.0. and there's no inetd.conf in /etc. I've read that
> that has moved to xinetd, but I can't really find out what file is
> looked for by inetd, supposing inetd is still the 'super server'. So
> please tell me where should put my hands to in order to remove all
> internet services I don't need. Thanks.
> Federico.
>
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From: "Kerem Bilge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KNode German Umlaute
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:42:29 +0200
Hi,
I can not enter German Umlaut in KNode if i want post in a newsgroup. Is
this a bug ? or configuration problem ?
My system kde2.1 redhat 7.0
thanks in advance for your help
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From: "Kerem Bilge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KNode Umlaute
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:44:22 +0200
Hallo,
Wieso kann ich beim Posting keine Umlaute angeben. Ich habe die Bugliste =
mir
angeschaut. Es war nicht dabei..??
Mein System kde2.1 redhat 7.0
Vielen Dank f=FCr euro Infos..
mfg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Helmut Leinfellner)
Subject: kwintv and xawtv
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 08:45:56 GMT
Hi group!
Kwintv is working fine, but not xawtv.
helmi@home:~ > xawtv
This is xawtv-3.17, running on Linux/i586 (2.2.16)
visual: id=0x20 class=4 (TrueColor), depth=16
x11: 800x600, 16 bit/pixel, 1600 byte/scanline, DGA
waitpid: Keine Kind-Prozesse
waitpid: Keine Kind-Prozesse
v4l: 800x600, 16 bit/pixel, 1600 byte/scanline
Error: Couldn't find per display information
helmi@home:~ >
I can see a picture OK, but whenever I press any button or
click the mouse, I get the error message above.
Can anyone help please?
Thanks,
Helmut
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From: Query_String <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I would like to register a complaint ...
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 08:56:31 GMT
KCmaniac wrote:
[snip incoherent rant]
You don't even seem to know the DOS command much but it
seems to qualify you to harangue Linux?
That said, your point (if you could formulate a coherent
one) is not entirely without merit.
To format means to give form. In the case of a page
of paper it means to lay lines on it and to erase
all else that may have been there before i.e to make
it usable for writing.
The disk concept is not exactly the same because you
can neither erase (only write other data) nor need to
erase since you can just overwrite. Still, the use of
DOS 'format' is/was an excellent choice of word and an
intuitive piece of insight into what users would be trying
to do without forcing a completely unwarranted jargon
expansion on them. People can knock M$ all they like,
it will not change their admirable ability (and willingness!)
to walk in the new users' shoes.
>From a purely technical point of view, DOS 'format' actually
involves a format AND a sort of virtual wipe of what is not
formatting data. It is made unusable even if that is not
essential. When users think format, they mean made ANEW. This
could also have been done by using two separate commands;
format & wipe, and then millions of DOS expatriates would not
be confronted with the otherwise totally futile paradigm shift
you have fallen victim to.
It was/is quite possible to use separate commands to do
one task at a time but the original choice of 'format'
to do both remains a good one for the simple reason that
it is what people expect it to do, WHEN IT EXISTS, regardless
of technical fidelity. Otherwise we end up with computers
running people instead of vice versa!
It's a bit of a moot point because in Linux the equivalent
separate commands are mkfs and some additional command like
badblocks with a write option to wipe but there is no single
'format' command that I know of that lets users "clear" (as
you call it) a partition. I think what you were looking for
was either a release to freespace or maybe a 'format' to DOS
from within Linux.
I would have created a Linux format command but it
would still be a Linux format and not a format to a
DOS filesystem. Reasons for this exist in some of
the weaknesses of the FAT layout and the dd command
you tried to tame.
> Please, please, please. Anybody.
Read, read, read. Everything.
But even that may not be enough. Some of the best
guru's ('wipe'd after a night's worth of coding) have
little respect left for real language. I was just
reading the cfdisk man page and found this:
" DOS, os2 and possibly other operating systems require
the first sector of the first partition on the disk and
all logical partitions to begin on the second head."
Ok, so anyone with a bit of exposure will make sense of
this on the 2nd or 3rd pass (probably took me 5). But
how about the user who is trying to learn from it AS IN
"I never knew what food group cfdisk belonged to until
today"?
Such a user might read
- require the first sector of the disk partition on
the disk.. cool, I didn't know it could be on the
moon, but I guess it can be on the disk too.
- all logical partitions to begin on the second head...
wow, now I know why my drive blew up, stupid me had
all of them beginning on the 3rd head, or was it
because I had 67 partitions beginning on one and
the same head?
Here again we have 'technical fidelity' which is also
necessary but it comes at the expense of the primary
objective; namely, VERBAL COMMUNICATIONS. The above
example is actually a minor weakness in an otherwise
good and for once extensive doc; but it 'could' read
".. while all partitions normally begin on head-0
of the following cylinder (i.e. cylinder change),
DOS, os2 and possibly some other OS's additionally
require that the very first partition begin on head-1
(instead of head-0) and that all logical partitions
begin on head-1 (instead of head-0) of the cylinder
following the inevitable previous partition."
About twice as many words.. my, my, what a waste! But
maybe I'm still missing the point anyway.
Far worse, there are many other man page authors that
really seem impossible (and not just difficult) to comprehend.
AND it isn't only me; any search on the topic will turn up
some of the richest if not always publishable idiomatics
in the thousands.
Come to think of it, my girlfriend who had already
lost her teeth 30 years before she died 20 years ago
at 95 can STILL express herself better than some of
them can |:-|
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Root cannot login
Date: 5 Apr 2001 09:13:23 GMT
Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have been able to boot in single mode. However i don't seem to have this
> tklogin file on my system nor on the original redhat cds.
> Can you tell me where does RH looks for this tklogin file. I checked
> /etc/inittab but found nothing
I looked in my system too and wasn't able to found that
kind of file.
I would not say something stupid, but this thing sound like
an hacked version of something... are you sure you have not
been hacked in some way?
Davide
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From: lmc83 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: add config
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 17:30:37 +0800
sorry, I found that just because I miss typing.
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From: "Jan Vandesompele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to restart apache webserver on suse linux 7.1?
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:36:04 +0200
Hello,
I recently installed Suse7.1 on my system. Since I'm used to work with
Redhat or Mandrake, I don't know how to restart my httpd daemon. In other
distro's you can do so with:
/etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd restart
but in suse this script does not exist.
Does anyone know how I can do this?
Thanx
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From: "ekkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: how to dis-partition?
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 02:52:28 -0700
RH7 like to create a bunch of partitions by default that look sort of like
this:
Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda8 256667 256667 0 100% /
/dev/hda1 23302 4993 17106 23% /boot
/dev/hda6 9005272 7984916 562908 94% /home
/dev/hda5 9005272 3278716 5269108 39% /usr
/dev/hda7 256667 256667 0 100% /var
none 256667 256667 0 100% /proc/bus/usb
so I have the problem that I have too much space on some and not enough on
others... it's difficult and inconvenient to have to figure out how much
space I need so I'd like to mae all these just one: /.
since a dump/repartition/restore would be difficult for me because I don't
have an easy way to dump, can anyone suggest a way to join all these
partitions into one?
1,000 TIA - e
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From: "Jan Vandesompele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to restart apache webserver on suse linux 7.1?
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:53:53 +0200
Sigh.... why not follow a standard....
/etc/init.d/apache restart
Found it...
Jan Vandesompele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9ahe9c$5n7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
>
> I recently installed Suse7.1 on my system. Since I'm used to work with
> Redhat or Mandrake, I don't know how to restart my httpd daemon. In other
> distro's you can do so with:
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd restart
> but in suse this script does not exist.
> Does anyone know how I can do this?
> Thanx
>
>
>
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From: "You, Jin-Ho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: how to dis-partition?
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 19:06:48 +0900
ekkis wrote:
>
> RH7 like to create a bunch of partitions by default that look sort of like
> this:
>
> Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda8 256667 256667 0 100% /
> /dev/hda1 23302 4993 17106 23% /boot
> /dev/hda6 9005272 7984916 562908 94% /home
> /dev/hda5 9005272 3278716 5269108 39% /usr
> /dev/hda7 256667 256667 0 100% /var
> none 256667 256667 0 100% /proc/bus/usb
>
> so I have the problem that I have too much space on some and not enough on
> others... it's difficult and inconvenient to have to figure out how much
> space I need so I'd like to mae all these just one: /.
>
> since a dump/repartition/restore would be difficult for me because I don't
> have an easy way to dump, can anyone suggest a way to join all these
> partitions into one?
>
> 1,000 TIA - e
parted will help you.
Jin Ho You
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From: Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: other editors?
Date: 5 Apr 2001 10:37:03 GMT
Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ivan Su <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Just out of curiosity is for Redhat 6.2 is there any other editors you
>> can use in the Unix prompt besides pico? all the other editors such as
>> nedit and gedit can only be accessed in XWindows....
> vi, emacs, joe, ....
vile (vi like emacs)
The current version of vile is 9.2
It's available at
http://dickey.his.com/vile/vile.html
ftp://dickey.his.com/vile
ftp.phred.org/pub/vile
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From: Stefan Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pgp not found although the binary is there
Date: 5 Apr 2001 10:40:09 GMT
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Run "file /usr/bin/pgp" (or possibly "file -L /usr/bin/pgp"). If it's
> some sort of "ELF executable, uses shared libs", then run
> "strings /usr/bin/pgp | grep /lib/ld-linux". I suspect that you have
> a libc5 binary (which uses /lib/ld-linux.so.1) on a libc6 system (these
> use /lib/ld-linux.so.2), or vice versa.
Thanks a lot to everybody for your help. I'm using SuSE 7.0 (sorry for that
German stuff), Kernel 2.2.16. I got pgp from somewhere else. It actually seems
to be something with the libraries. I did the strings /usr/bin/pgp
| grep /lib/ld-linux and I got /lib/ld-linux.so.1. Now on my system there
is not such a file. So I die ln ld-linux.so.2 ld-linux.so.1 (thought it
could work), but I now get an error in loading shared libraries.
What to do? Recompile it?
Thanks a lot for further help
Stefan
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using RPM with RH5.2
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 10:49:35 GMT
KCmaniac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alex wrote:
>> From my understanding, you can't upgrade your rpm from 3.0.1 to 4.0.2
>> directly.
>>
>> Try to upgrade your rpm to version 3.0.5-9 (if there are packages for
>> RH5.x). After that, you might be able to upgrade to 4.0.2. Other then
>> rpm, you also need to db3 package.
>>
>> I am running 6.2; therefore, I can't say it will work for you for sure.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
> Thank you, Alex. And thanks for your helpful tone as opposed to a
Don't thank him. You are being shot at. You do not WANT to do this. Install
RH 7 if that is what you want. Do not mess up your system.
Fortunately RPM itself will save you from most problems. It will refuse to
install almost everything.
> high-flutent, snotty, smartass type response that I get sometimes from some
> of these Liniots.
> They figure no one has done any reading about anything except themselves.
In your case, thsi appears to be true,
> It seems like so many here automatically assume you have not done any
> homework on the subject before posting here. I don't know where this Peter
> guy was coming from. But I've said enough.
Apart from fuming like a pile of dung, try figuring out what is going on,
instead of slobbering when someone is "nice" enough to hold your hand and
pander to your misconceptions. Accept that you are an idiot, and your life
will begin anew .. it's no crime to be an idiot. I am an idiot about cooking,
for example ... and nobody's put me in jail yet :-).
> What you say makes since. I just don't understand why that has not been
Except it does NOT make sense. It tells you how to do what you want to do. The
fact that this will destroy your system seems to not matter to you .. or
perhaps it passed over your head?
> documented any where. I have been to the rpm.org site. I have been through
> the HOW-TO a couple of times and have read plently of other documentation
> and you would think I would have seen something about this somewhere.
Apparently not. I hope that makes you angry enough to start to think, instead
of protest.
> I'll try what you are suggesting. Thank you. Boy, what a mess.
Don't. Instead grind and gnash your teeth a bit more.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Subject: Re: FAT CR/LF conversion
Date: 5 Apr 2001 10:56:10 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
"Chris West" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> I have a floppy disk wich I mount using:
>
> mount -tvfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy -oconv=auto
>
> When I copy a text file (file.log) to the floppy using cp, the NL->CR/LF
> conversion isn't performed, the destination file is identical to the source
> file.
>
> Am I right in thinking this conversion should be performed for cp?
> If so, any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
>
> [kernel 2.4.1, cp (GNU fileutils) 4.0x]
>
>
try using the mtools [mcopy specifically has -t option]
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