Linux-Misc Digest #536, Volume #24 Sat, 20 May 00 18:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Upgrading to RH 6.2 (Jeff Silverman)
Re: WYSIWYG web page generator (J Bland)
Re: Problem with root password ("Julien Reynier de Montlaux")
Re: pound sterling on US keyboard? (Achim Linder)
Re: Linux as a firewall/blocking proxy? (Martin Vonwald)
Is OpenGL hardware accelerated? (Andreas Rottmann)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (David Steuber)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (David Steuber)
Re: Anyone find VMware kernel version hassles? (Michael Kelly)
Re: Is OpenGL hardware accelerated? (JEDIDIAH)
extra keys functionality? (root)
Re: Anyone find VMware kernel version hassles? (Michael Kelly)
Re: Separate HDD for swap? (Michael Kelly)
Re: restore lilo after windows installation (Michael Kelly)
Disk De-partitioning ("dan")
Re: How to connect to a windows NT server by ppp ? (Fox)
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From: Jeff Silverman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Upgrading to RH 6.2
Date: 20 May 2000 20:43:42 GMT
Rod Moten wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade an SMP system with a Mylex Raid card from RH
> 5.2 to RH 6.2. However,RH's installation script fails because it says an
> error occurred because it can't read my partition table. What's strange
> about this error is that I'm running RH 5.2 without any problem. I also
> have NT installed. Do you think that this problem is caused by NT? Some
> of my students believe that NT is locking the MBR. Do you think if I
> removed NT that this problem would go away?
>
> Rod
Rod,
We recently had an experience with a dual boot NT and Linux machine, where we
accidentally
installed LILO in the MBR. The solution was to leave LILO in the MBR and have LILO be
the boot
loader for NT. So, we had NT in the first partition of our SCSI disk, sda1, and Linux
in the second
partition, sda2 and we used the other=sda1 line in our lilo.conf file to have it boot
to NT.
Sorry I am somewhat vague - the computer is at work and I am at home and it is
running NT at the
moment so I can't call up the details.
Jeff
--
Jeff Silverman, PC guy, Linux wannabe, Java wannabe, Software engineer, husband,
father etc.
See my website: http://www.commercialventvac.com/~jeffs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG web page generator
Date: 20 May 2000 20:38:54 GMT
>> If you are looking for something like offerings on Win9x, then there isn't
>> anything like that on Linux yet.
>
>Cripes! It took 40 messages for someone to get to the point. And then
>it only took one sentence.
There is plenty of validity in informing someone why perhaps they shouldn't
use a WYSIWYG tool over a CLI one (and vice-versa). And people who work with
HTML at a base level understand this.
To some it is unwanted-faff and I suspect this is the category the original
poster would put much of this into, but to the enlightened it is the correct
and rational way to do things.
These channels are by nature frequented by Sys Admins and network
professionals etc and they don't pull punches or compromise.
If I want an opinion on my health I ask a doctor; if I want a property
evaluated I ask a property surveryor. Why do people think that they can ask
"any old pillock off the internet" about their computer or internet
connectivity? If you don't like it, tough. This is how you *should* do it.
Want to know the tools to do what you want? Sure, we'll tell you
(eventually) but being what we are we're much more interested in telling you
why shouldn't use them in the first place.
PJF
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From: "Julien Reynier de Montlaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Problem with root password
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 20:45:14 GMT
Just an other solution.
You needn't to try to crack your own root password by any cracking methods.
If you have physicaly access to your own computer (that I suppose you have)
there is no problems because you always can boot on a floppy disk on the OS
you want and do anythings you want!!!
Dmitry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a �crit dans le message :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hello !
> I've got a problem with root username or password - probably I just
mistyped
> it during the installation.
> Is there a way to retrieve it ?
> Thank you in advance.
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Achim Linder)
Subject: Re: pound sterling on US keyboard?
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 22:47:06 +0200
On Tue, 16 May 2000 15:21:28 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I have Linux installed on a machine with US keyboard.
>Is there a (somewhat) simple way to get the UK pound sterling symbol?
Try Compose-L -
Achim
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From: Martin Vonwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux as a firewall/blocking proxy?
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 22:47:20 +0200
(Change small to big to reply) Stewart Honsberger wrote:
> We've been toying with the idea of setting up a Linux box that would sit
> between our router and our network and block access to certain sites, but
> only for IPs in the range of 172.23.42.110 - 172.23.43.254. Everything
> below that is administrative, and we'll need unrestricted access.
No problem here...
> In the process of doing this, we'd also like to configure it to act as a
> firewall and block virtually all incoming connections, and close off any
> of the more questionable outgoing ports (Napster and ICQ are two that come
> immediately to mind); also only for the above specified range.
Uuuuhh - that's tricky! The only possibility to block napster (AFAIK) is to
block the napster servers - but who really knows all the servers including
the open ones...
I really love ICQ so I want help you here :-) (Pretty the same as napster)
> Could somebody send me a whole waft of reference URL's, HOWTO's, etc?
Look at www.linuxdoc.org. Keywords are:
Firewall -> ipchains
HTTP-Proxy-> squid (beneath others)
> We're
> dealing with school/school board administration here who know nothing about
> these magical boxes, and would wonder what's wrong with the NT box we
> currently use as a proxy.
Sounds familiar ;-)
If you just want a simple firewall without anything tricky on it you can
consider floppyfw (search at freshmeat.net) - this is a single floppy with
everything on it. If your nic is supported then you only have to write your
firewall script and your finished.
If you want to block EVERTHING except http access for your students then
install a http proxy and block all ports coming from the students ip range
except the http proxy port.
If you have any more questions you are free to mail me:
martin_AT_voni_DOT_at
Martin
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From: Andreas Rottmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Is OpenGL hardware accelerated?
Date: 20 May 2000 22:44:42 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
>
> > > > : 3. A DirectX-like platform for hardware-accelerated devices, not
> > > > : necessarily at the kernel level;
>
> > > > Whats wrong with OpenGL?
>
> > > The fact that it's not hardware-accelerated?
>
> > Of course it is hardware accelerated.
>
> No. It isn't.
>
> It may have the potential to be accelerated at some point in the
> future, but, as of this writing, it is not. NVIDIA has flatly stated
> that they will not be doing hardware-accelerated OpenGL until XF86
> 4.0. As XF86 4.0 is not the official XF86 at this point, there is
> not, officially, any hardware-accelerated OpenGL at this point.
>
What about Mesa-Glide?
> > The entire idea of OpenGL is wrapping hardware
> > acceleration. Everything in the OpenGL API is centred around making
> > effective hardware accelerated implementations possible.
>
> Actually, I think the entire idea of OpenGL is making available a
> high-level 3D API to the user.
>
But some part of OpenGL can be delegated to 3D hardware.
Andy
--
Andreas Rottmann (Dru@ICQ, 54523380@ICQ)
Pfeilgasse 4-6/725, A-1080 Wien, Austria, Europe
http://www.penguinpowered.com/~andy/
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[one of 78,35% Austrians who didn�t vote for Haider!]
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 20:59:58 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
' > A killer app is something that most computer users will find
' > useful.
'
' Of course Apache is a killer app.
As is KDE ;-)
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 20:59:59 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
' It was the Fri, 19 May 2000 07:00:00 GMT...
' ...and David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
' > I don't consider GTK-- to be a class library. It is just a wrapper
' > for GTK. Not the same thing really now, is it? Not that GTK is a bad
' > thing. After all, there is a port of GIMP for Windows.
'
' Have you used GTK-- or even only read the description? Of course it
' wraps GTK+ in its core. But it's got everything you can expect from a
' C++ class library: namespaces, inheritance, easy construction of new
' widgets, stuff like that, and a real neat wrapper around GTK+ signals
' that's supposed to be conceptually clean without requiring a kluge
' such as MOC.
I looked at it a while back. Perhaps it was too long ago to be a fair
comparison. I'll look at it again. If it can do all the Qt things
just as well, perhaps I will switch.
There is a limit to the number of class libraries I can learn. I only
plan to use one for application development in an X environment.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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From: Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anyone find VMware kernel version hassles?
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 17:00:20 -0400
>>And? Set the link /usr/src/linux to point to your sources which you've
>>used to compile your kernel with. Works for me since 2.2.4., now
>>running 2.2.15.
Hmmmmmm, turns out I don't think it's really related
to kernel versions. The VMware user module calls
a function init_waitqueue() that's never defined.
Anyone have any experience with this error?
In the meantime I'm searching the VMware site but I
thought I'd post now to give this time to propagate.
TIA
Mike
--
"I don't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member."
-- Groucho Marx
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Subject: Re: Is OpenGL hardware accelerated?
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 21:08:58 GMT
On 20 May 2000 22:44:42 +0200, Andreas Rottmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
>>
>> > > > : 3. A DirectX-like platform for hardware-accelerated devices, not
>> > > > : necessarily at the kernel level;
>>
>> > > > Whats wrong with OpenGL?
>>
>> > > The fact that it's not hardware-accelerated?
>>
>> > Of course it is hardware accelerated.
>>
>> No. It isn't.
>>
>> It may have the potential to be accelerated at some point in the
>> future, but, as of this writing, it is not. NVIDIA has flatly stated
>> that they will not be doing hardware-accelerated OpenGL until XF86
>> 4.0. As XF86 4.0 is not the official XF86 at this point, there is
>> not, officially, any hardware-accelerated OpenGL at this point.
>>
>What about Mesa-Glide?
>
>> > The entire idea of OpenGL is wrapping hardware
>> > acceleration. Everything in the OpenGL API is centred around making
>> > effective hardware accelerated implementations possible.
>>
>> Actually, I think the entire idea of OpenGL is making available a
>> high-level 3D API to the user.
>>
>But some part of OpenGL can be delegated to 3D hardware.
A good portion of it can. Although, the more you do in hardware
the more expensive the hardware gets. Some of the newest bleeding
edge consumer vidcard features previously could only be found in
cards costing a minimum of $1000.
--
In what language does 'open' mean 'execute the evil contents of' |||
a document? --Les Mikesell / | \
Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (root)
Subject: extra keys functionality?
Date: 20 May 2000 21:36:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was playing around with scankey and noticed that the power off, sleep and
wake-up keys on my windoze keyboard have a scancode too (off course they have,
I just didn't realize).
Then I had a wild idea: Is it possible to have:
- an application to start when pressing a special key, or
- a deamon (or the kernel itself, with some hacking) to scan those keys and let them
run a prog as soon as pressed.
It would seem very cool to me to have the fortune-coockies under the sleep-key, for
example. (and very nerd-like too!)
I Can't program in C, but I can try...
Tijmen
ps I know i'm root
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Kelly)
Subject: Re: Anyone find VMware kernel version hassles?
Date: 20 May 2000 21:42:49 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Michael Kelly
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
[snip]
> And? Set the link /usr/src/linux to point to your sources which you've
> used to compile your kernel with. Works for me since 2.2.4., now
> running 2.2.15.
Well, it looks like it's a problem with parport support or
some such. The "undefined symbol" is always "init_waitqueue"
and since this vmmuser module isn't required after 2.3.9 I
guess I'll try a 2.3.24 kernel I have and see if that works.
Making soft links to point to headers and rebuilding and
reinstalling kernels made no difference whatever. I think
it's probably it doesn't like parport on this dist.
>
>>Anyone having kernel version hassles with VMware?
>
> Yes, the modules of 1.x Versions don't build with 2.3.99 Versions -
> dunno 'bout VMware 2.x.
>
> HTH,
> Uli
--
Mike
--
"I don't want to belong to any club that would have *me* as a member!"
-- Groucho Marx
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Kelly)
Subject: Re: Separate HDD for swap?
Date: 20 May 2000 21:49:52 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bastian) writes:
> On Tue, 16 May 2000 22:28:22 GMT, Scott Thomas wrote:
>>
>> Silly question - I'm assembling a few Linux boxen, and I have a
>>handful of small (~100MB) IDE drives lying around I've been unable to
>>find a use for or get rid of. How sensible/feasible would it be to use
>>one of them in each machine as swap space, instead of using a partition
>>on the main drive? If so, any suggestion as to where on the IDE
>>channel(s) it oughta be?
>
> The 100megs disks are most likely very slow, so I wouldn't suggest
> using them. Perhaps they do a better job as small backup drives.
>
> Bastian
>
As the only swap I agree. However, if the system is swapping
intensively, then it might be useful as a secondary swap. IOW,
have a swap partition on the main fast drive and another on
the slow secondary drive with priority set so that pages are
dealt round-robin. This can reduce thrashing on the system
disk.
If you're not doing intensive swapping, like for a database or
something, then it's probably more trouble than it's worth.
--
Mike
--
"I don't want to belong to any club that would have *me* as a member!"
-- Groucho Marx
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Kelly)
Subject: Re: restore lilo after windows installation
Date: 20 May 2000 21:46:01 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"John G.Sandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm in a hotel room 1000 miles from home and can't remember the boot:
> line to give when booting off the SuSE CD-ROM to boot off the hard drive
> and re-run /sbin/lilo after a Win 98 re-install wiped the MBR.
>
> Also on a slow laptop and slow modem whoich makes it difficult to search
> the Net.
>
> Have tried:
>
> /dev/hda1
> /dev/hda2
> mount /dev/hda1
> /boot/vmlinuz /dev/hda1
>
> and such.
>
> fdisk in windows shows linux partitions are still there.
Have you tried:
mount root=/dev/hd??? where /dev/hd??? is your Linux /boot partition on the hd?
>
> Help!
>
> John Sandell
--
Mike
--
"I don't want to belong to any club that would have *me* as a member!"
-- Groucho Marx
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From: "dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.misc
Subject: Disk De-partitioning
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 15:00:38 -0700
to whoever can help,
i have a pc running windows 98 with an 8 gig harddrive. i partitioned 4 gigs
of my harddrive for linux redhat 5.1. however, i no longer wish to run linux
on my computer.
my question: is how do i de-partition the linux half of my harddisk so that
dos and windows can use it?
i tried fdisk, but it wouldn't recognize the linux half of the drive. any
help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks,
dan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fox)
Subject: Re: How to connect to a windows NT server by ppp ?
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 21:44:31 GMT
On Fri, 19 May 2000 20:29:41 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
wrote:
>>the'v granted me to access their network,when i use minicom to
>>dial,after hand shake,the server send "{......." that string
>>just like dialup to a linux box after authorization. I'v tried
>>to use pppsetup's methods about Nt,but it doesn't work.Any
>>other way to set it up? the administrator told me that they
>>only setup as default of NT(SP3) RAS.
>
>If you're using pppd to dial in, all you have to do is add your
>username and password in the chap secrets file and set up a
>chat script to dial and wait for CONNECT. If you do a man
>pppd, it should give you some pointers.
I'v readed man page of pppd and chat again , it need to get "name"
and "password" etc... but after modem hand shake the server only send
"{rtrfa......" no prompt name or any words about when to input name
and passwd......
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