Linux-Misc Digest #536, Volume #26 Wed, 13 Dec 00 01:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: ISO 9660 Volume Name? (Dances With Crows)
Re: Linux system ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Setting Reply-to in pine (David Efflandt)
Re: Stampede Linux (Mark Post)
Re: Mandrake upgrade: terrible ("Alan Burns")
Re: Linux freeze (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: Checking for already compiled kernel options (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: DLink 530 TX ("WME")
Re: Backup scheme for RedHat 7 (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: Mandrake upgrade: terrible ("BrianM")
Re: What is the command to . . . ? (Cliff Sarginson)
Re: Recommend TEXT (not X) based visual FTP client (Sven Mascheck)
Re: folder size (marc)
Re: xterm and aliases (Sven Mascheck)
Re: cdrecord & CDRW8432 (RW8435E) (r1ckey)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: ISO 9660 Volume Name?
Date: 13 Dec 2000 03:21:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 00:17:05 GMT, Andre-John Mas staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
> Is there any way of finding out the volume name of the mounted ISO
> 9660 'device', or of any other volume? I would be interested in
> knowing about both 'command-line' and 'api' approaches.
isoinfo -d -i /dev/cdrom
(isoinfo is part of the cdrecord package)
Don't know of any API as such--the source for isoinfo would give you
something to start from, I'm sure.
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Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux system
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 03:32:48 GMT
Cal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've installed Linux on my own PC before. It worked - sort of. My Epson
> printer didn't work, so I got another one that I also couldn't get to work.
> My scanner was hopeless. The mouse only sort of worked (the wheel didn't
> work). But I loved the stability of Linux, and I like using it. So, what I
> want to do is get a whole system that all fits together and works. Does
> anyone know a source for integrated, functioning, all-set-up systems with
> Linux loaded, tested and operating with monitor, graphics/video card, lan
> card, printer, scanner, mouse, sound card, and variable speed windshield
> wipers? Like Dell, but Linux?
Dell actually has such linux machine... We've also had luck with computers from
Penguin Computing (www.penguincomputing.com) at work. Not sure if they sell them
with options for scanner or printer, though.
> Thanks.
> // Cal
You're quite welcome,
Adam
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Setting Reply-to in pine
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 03:49:29 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>* "Mark J. Tilford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I'm using pine for my email. Is there a way I can set it up so that it
>> includes a reply-to line?
>
>Try the Menu->Setup->Configure screen or ask in comp.mail.pine
Scroll down to customized-hdrs in that screen and hit the question mark
(?) for more help.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post)
Subject: Re: Stampede Linux
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 04:02:22 GMT
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 17:27:07 -0800, "John E. Garrott Sr"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can anyone else reach the Stampede Linux site,
> http://www.stampede.org/ ?
>I can ping it ok, but either netscape or lynx seem
>to connect, but wait forever for a reply.
I was able to get there with no problems just now.
Mark Post
Postmodern Consulting
Information Technology and Systems Management Consulting
To send me email, replace 'nospam' with 'home'.
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From: "Alan Burns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.kde
Subject: Re: Mandrake upgrade: terrible
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:18:00 +0600
In article <5_sZ5.15546$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I had a clean installation of Mandrake 7.0 and tried the 7.2 upgrade
>> yesterday. What a disaster!
>
> The general consensus with 7.2 is to do a clean install,
> not an upgrade.
That has always been my personal recommendation with *ANY* OS upgrade. My
experience has been that any time you install new on top of old, you're
asking for version/configuration conflicts and such. (I've used Windows
3.1/95/98/NT, OS/2, Mac, Red Hat, and Mandrake.)
No matter how well an upgrade my or may not work, I think you'll always do
better with a clean install - if you have the time to do it that way.
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux freeze
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:38:17 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (in part):
>
> dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:07:22 GMT, "korner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>As shocking as the title may be, it just happened to me. I was surfing the
> >>internet using netscape 4.7?, and suddenly everything freezed and I had to
> >>hard-reboot the computer to regain control. The mouse pointer was moving,
> >>but except that, the system didn't respond to anything.
>
> I've seen this. Way too many times, also under HPUX and Solaris.
>
> I've solved it in several ways.
>
> On Linux, ctrl-alt-F1 to get to a virtual console, then use ps to find
> the PID of netscape:
>
> jbuchana@zaphod$ ps -auxw | grep [l]inux
> jbuchana 6306 1.9 8.1 29276 21272 ? S 19:18 1:14
>/usr/i386-glibc20-linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2 --library-path /usr/i386-gl
>
> For some reason, recent versions of Netscape on Linux display this
> line with ps instead of the expected "netscape".
Maybe on your machine, but I have not noticed this ever on either of
mine. I run Red Hat Linux 6.0 and I used to run their 5.0 version. I
have run almost every version of Netscape from 4.5 up to 4.76, and
normally get results like this:
valinux:jdbeyer[~]$ ps -fA | grep netscape
jdbeyer 15341 1 0 Dec08 ? 00:01:02 /opt/netscape/netscape
-no-about
jdbeyer 16062 14906 0 Dec08 pts/1 00:00:00 grep netscape
valinux:jdbeyer[~]$
(Of course, it is not locked up at the moment.)
> Kill it like this:
>
> jbuchana@zaphod$ kill -9 6306
> jbuchana@zaphod$ rm ~/.netscape/lock
> jbuchana@zaphod$
>
> The '-9' might not be needed, but is more certain. It does not allow
> the program to clean up after itself as it dies. Newer versions of
> Netscape seem to be able to clean up old lock files on their own, but
> just in case.
On my machine, the -9 *is* needed. It does not usually remove the lock
file if I do this, thought it does sometimes. It must be that it has
previously unlinked it (when it works) so that so that when the
lockfile is cloces on exit, it disappears.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 11:25pm up 8 days, 8:13, 3 users, load average: 2.17, 2.10, 2.02
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Checking for already compiled kernel options
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:50:30 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Is there any way to check if currently running kernel is SMP capable?
> in other words, if the kernel was compiled with SMP options enabled
> or not?
If you boot the system and look in something like /var/log/messages,
you should see something like this (I did minor editing):
Dec 4 13:29:46 valinux syslogd 1.3-3: restart.
Dec 4 13:29:46 valinux syslog: syslogd startup succeeded
Dec 4 13:29:46 valinux kernel: klogd 1.3-3, log source = /proc/kmsg
started.
Dec 4 13:29:46 valinux kernel: Inspecting
/boot/System.map-2.2.14-VA.5.1smp
Dec 4 13:29:46 valinux syslog: klogd startup succeeded
Dec 4 13:29:46 valinux kernel: Loaded 8306 symbols from ...
Dec 4 13:29:46 valinux kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.2.14.
Dec 4 13:29:46 valinux kernel: Loaded 209 symbols from 7 modules.
Dec 4 13:29:46 valinux kernel: Linux version 2.2.14-VA.5.1smp
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(gcc version egcs-2.91.66
19990314/Linux
(egcs-1.1.2 release))
#1 SMP Tue Sep 12 21:26:21 PDT 2000
Dec 4 13:29:46 valinux kernel: Intel MultiProcessor Specification
v1.1
Dec 4 13:29:46 valinux kernel: Virtual Wire compatibility mode.
Dec 4 13:29:46 valinux kernel: OEM ID: INTEL Product ID: 440GX
APIC at: 0xFEE00000
Dec 4 13:29:46 valinux kernel: Processor #0 Pentium(tm) Pro APIC
version 17
Dec 4 13:29:46 valinux kernel: Processor #1 Pentium(tm) Pro APIC
version 17
Dec 4 13:29:46 valinux kernel: I/O APIC #2 Version 17 at 0xFEC00000.
Dec 4 13:29:46 valinux kernel: Processors: 2
If you get it from a vendor such as Red Hat or VA Linux systems, you
can do a uname -r command to get the kernel version. Mine looks like
this:
valinux:jdbeyer[~]$ uname -r
2.2.14-VA.5.1smp
valinux:jdbeyer[~]$
For such a system, the smp at the end is the giveaway. YMMV.
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.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 11:40pm up 8 days, 8:28, 3 users, load average: 2.21, 2.14, 2.07
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From: "WME" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DLink 530 TX
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 04:56:21 GMT
First of all what driver should I be using? I tried this via-rhine. I even
downloaded it from some site that I don't remember, compiled it.
I went into /usr/src/linux
make menuconfig
I chose the network devices (or whatever it's called), chose the via-rhine.
Saved,...
make dep clean bzImage bzlilo
rebooted,
nothing works
=========
i went to
/etc/rc.d
i uncommented via-rhine,
i recompiled the kernel for via-rhine to be used as a module,
...
samething, doesn't recognize the card.
should i be giving it any parameters?
Some of the errors were (not in any order):
modprobe: Can't locate module devpts
...
init_module device or resource busy
Does that info indicate what i might be doing wrong?
> In that case it's nothing to do with your distro. All drivers are
> kernel issues. You can put any kernel/driver on any distro. It's an
> orthogonal part of the system.
>
> > redhat.
>
> And I run dfe-530tx[+]'s perfectly well under debian and slackware. There
> is no magic involved. These are ordinary cards. Just load the
> appropriate driver. It's as easy as lifting a finger.
>
> Peter
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Backup scheme for RedHat 7
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 00:00:08 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I just purchased a P3-800 Dell and I am getting ready to put RedHat 7
> on it. I am trying to decide on a good backup scheme and would like
> input. The two scenarios I'm leaning toward are as follows:
>
> 1) Get an IDE tape drive and make a bootable backup (is this possible?)
I do not know about IDE tape drives, but you can sort-of do that with
some HP SCSI drives. Perhaps they will work with IDE drives as well.
They have a feature known as OBDR, or One Button Disaster Recovery. If
your drives are wiped out, you just buy new ones of equal or larger
size, put the OBDR tape in the drive and power up your new system
while holding the eject button on the drive depressed for 5 seconds.
The controller pretends to be a hard drive or CD-ROM (I forget which)
and if your BIOS is correctly configured, you will boot from the tape,
and it will restore your entire hard drives, including everything in
/dev. I have never tried this as my machine tries to boot from floppy,
CD-ROM, and hard drive. If it succeeds at any of those, it never
checks the other drive (i.e., the tape drive with the OBDR tape in
it). I would have to zap the boot block of the hard drive to test this
feature, and I have not had the nerve to test it yet.
> 2) Get another hard drive and somehow make a bootable backup from this
> as well.
I do not like that idea, having worked for a computer lab where 24 to
30 hard drives all crashed on the same night, taking out 8 or 10
machines. The dust from one crash got the next drive, and the next,
and the next, ... Also, if your maching goes really wild, it might as
well zap both drives instead of just one.
>
> I would like to point out that I would like to do this backup once/week
> and I would like to backup my system files as well as my data files. I
> would prefer something within RedHat so I don't have to go out and buy
> any more software or at least something relatively cheap. Thanks in
> advance.
The only way I know to write an OBDR tape is by using the BRU CRU
software. But it must be possible without it. As far as routine
backups are concerned, I ran a shell script with find and cpio
commands in it for about 2 years until I got the BRU software. That
worked very well.
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.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 11:50pm up 8 days, 8:38, 3 users, load average: 2.05, 2.09, 2.06
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From: "BrianM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake upgrade: terrible
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.kde
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:26:55 +0000
In article <916t70$gl4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Alan Burns"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <5_sZ5.15546$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>> I had a clean installation of Mandrake 7.0 and tried the 7.2 upgrade
>>> yesterday. What a disaster!
>>
>> The general consensus with 7.2 is to do a clean install,
>> not an upgrade.
>
> That has always been my personal recommendation with *ANY* OS upgrade.
> My experience has been that any time you install new on top of old,
> you're asking for version/configuration conflicts and such. (I've used
> Windows
> 3.1/95/98/NT, OS/2, Mac, Red Hat, and Mandrake.)
>
> No matter how well an upgrade my or may not work, I think you'll always
> do better with a clean install - if you have the time to do it that way.
amen to that.
also, take the default install choice, workstation, server or whatever.
you can also remove the unwanted bits later.
BrianM
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From: Cliff Sarginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: What is the command to . . . ?
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:32:09 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] posited:
> I am looking for the command that will help me compare two directory
> structures.
>
> I just did a file copy to an NFS drive and I want to make sure that I
> got everything.
>
> I used
> cp -axv /dev /mnt/vol00
> cp -axv /bin /mnt/vol00
> cp -axv/usr /mnt/vol00
> etc . . .
>
> Doing some sampling, it appears that everything copied okay.
>
> What I am looking for is the equivalent to this
> dos command: dir *.* /s
>
> i.e. I am looking for file counts and directory counts as well as
> total sizes.
>
Hey this is Linux. If you saw no complaints then the commands
worked ! Trust me.
Cliff
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From: Sven Mascheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recommend TEXT (not X) based visual FTP client
Date: 13 Dec 2000 06:52:30 +0100
Alex Barylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But where did you get your ncftp version with curses support from?
ncftp-2.x obviously used ncurses.
ncftp-3.x looks more like a comandline (and uses libtermcap)
but its ncftpbookmarks is linked with (n)curses.
Sven
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From: marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: folder size
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 01:07:10 +0100
Grant Edwards wrote:
>> Does anyone know a way to get the size of a folder and all its
>> subfolders even if it's very small let's say less than 100k.
>
>
> For what definition of "size of a folder"?
>
>
>> usualy I use du but it doesn't work well if the folder is too small.
>
>
> It works quite well for some definitions. ;)
How many definitions do you know? I only know one and it is the total of
bytes of every file in that folder and all its subfolders. And for my
definition du doesn't work well. It may work for big folders but not for
small folders because of block_size. for exemple if I want to know the
size of a folder that contains 40kB it shows 120K.
--marc
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From: Sven Mascheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xterm and aliases
Date: 13 Dec 2000 07:06:27 +0100
Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All login shells:
> Read the file /etc/profile and then look for the first
> of ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, or ~/.profile in that
> order.
- but not ~/.bashrc
> Commonly the BASH_ENV variable is set to ~/.bashrc so that both
> interactive and non-interactive sub-shells all have the same
> environment.
You still need a '. ~/.bashrc' - and in reality also often even
a test for connection to a tty 'if test -t 0; then' (or alike)
for some commands.
Sven
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From: r1ckey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cdrecord & CDRW8432 (RW8435E)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 06:05:36 GMT
Jacek Chmielewski wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have some problems with writing CD-R under Linux (RedHat 7.0) using
> 'cdrecord' & Creative CDRW drive.
>
> I made iso : 'mkisofs' - everything OK.
> I mounted it - looks OK.
> I tested (-dummy) : 'cdrecord' - everything OK.
> I wrote (speed=4) : 'cdrecord' - everything seems to be OK.
>
> But I can't mount this disk.
>
> $ mount /dev/cdrom
> .... wrong fs type, bad option, ... - standard error message.
>
> I have no idea what's wrong.
> Is it my fault? or cdrecord don't support RW8435E? (I did not found it
> in compability list, but Creative CDRW8432 is in FAQ [5-1-26(or 27)])
>
> Regards,
> Jacek
/dev/cdrom is probably a symbolic link to something like /dev/hdc. You
also may have a device file like /dev/scd0. If so try to mount that
with "mount /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom" (or to the correct destination) If
that works delete the existing link from /dev/cdrom to /dev/hdc (or
where ever) and create another link "ln -s /dev/cdrom /dev/scd0" Now
try your original mount again "mount /dev/mount" Hope it works...I
recently had a similar problem after installing Mandrake 7.2.
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