Linux-Misc Digest #557, Volume #20                Wed, 9 Jun 99 17:13:15 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Is it possible to copy a Red Hat CD on a Windows system? ("tester")
  Re: problems with glibc2 (Mark Johnson)
  Re: PLEASE Help - kernel/module questions (detailed) (Gernot Fink)
  Re: Compiling a c++ program (Lester Memmott)
  Socket operation on non-socket (Jeremy Douglas)
  Re: How to get System Commander to boot Linux? (Esko Woudenberg)
  Re: Accounting software (quicken type) for LINUX? ("William B. Cattell")
  fetchmail leave one copy ("V.Yavuz")
  Re: Can I use SCSI Emulator & SCSI? ("William B. Cattell")
  GLX accelerated quake with TNT card (Donovan Rebbechi)
  Re: newbie GCC problem (Lester Memmott)
  Re: Editing a 4.7Mb file (VI limit 2Mb) (Brad Knowles)
  Re: How to get System Commander to boot Linux? ("Robert")
  irritating-small-problems (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Patte)
  Boot Linux from SCSI (with OS/2 boot manager) (Reinhardt Behm)
  Re: cannot mount floppy (Scott Lanning)
  Re: Run time measurement with micro (or at least milli)-second (Rene van Paassen)
  Re: Mosaic: is it dead? (Marc Mutz)
  Can login via telnet but not Xterm... (damons)
  Any Mail Application for commercial use (Eddy)
  Re: LaTeX problem (Marc Mutz)
  Re: Backup recommendations? (Dan LaPine)
  Re: Does Java run well on Linux? (John Edstrom)
  Re: Any Mail Application for commercial use (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
  Re: SECURITY ISSUES: Single user restriction at lilo boot: (David Renton)
  Re: kill child of shellscript (Niel Markwick)

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From: "tester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is it possible to copy a Red Hat CD on a Windows system?
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 04:39:08 GMT

Use CDRWin, don't use Easy CD Creator which doesn't make a true
sector-by-sector copy like CDRWin does.


Steve Hiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<iIb73.2907$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> I bought a CheapBytes Red Hat 6.0 CD and I have a friend that wants me to
> copy it for him (saves him a little money since he already has the blank
> CDs).  My problem is that the only CD burner I have is at work and it is
on
> a Windows NT machine.  I am using Easy CD Creator Deluxe.  I have
searched
> quite a bit about creating Linux CDs on Windows machines and everything I
> find is really talking about creating one from scratch using downloaded
> files (most say it is not possible without using Linux).
> 
> The thing I am interested in finding out is if I can copy an existing CD.
 I
> don't know a whole lot about how CD burners work with respect to ISO
images
> but it seems to me like I should be able to make an ISO image of the
> original CD and burn a new one using the image.  If I were using Linux I
> would trust that but in my experience Windows programs like to "help" you
> out without telling you so I was wondering if it would try to convert the
> file system to Joliet or if an ISO image is a bit-for-bit image of the
CD.
> 
> If it were my disc I would just burn one and find out if it works but
since
> it is my friends CD I don't want to ruin one if I can avoid it.
> 
> Thanks for the help,
> Steve Hiner
> developer AT isiaz DOT com
> 
> 
> 
> 

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From: Mark Johnson <markj*no*spam*@gilanet.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: problems with glibc2
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 12:43:26 -0600
Reply-To: markj*no*spam*@gilanet.com

Presumably 'root' needs it. At least he asked for it.

I told him where to find it; and don't care whether he needs it, wants it,
gots to have it, or whatever.

Mark Tranchant wrote:

> Guys - you don't *need* glibc2 to run 2.2.x kernels. The Changes
> documentation tells you what version if libc5 / glibc2 you should have
> *if you use it*.
>
> Mark.
>
> Mark Johnson wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Where to get glibc 2.0.7?
> >
> > It tells you in linux-2.2.9/Documentation/Changes


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gernot Fink)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: PLEASE Help - kernel/module questions (detailed)
Date: 9 Jun 1999 19:09:49 GMT

> Starting in /usr/src/linux/, I:    make menuconfig and pick my choices,
> then make dep, then make clean, then make bzImage, then make modules,
> then make modules_install, then I copy the new bzImage to /boot/ with a
> new name and reconfigure my lilo.conf, then run lilo, then reboot.

Have you try'd depmod -a after compiling?
Check also which kernal is running. 


> 
> Why would I get module dependency errors?  They seem to be for things

-- 
MFG G.Fink

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From: Lester Memmott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compiling a c++ program
Date: 9 Jun 1999 19:31:21 GMT


I am running RedHat 5.2 and found that the install doesn't put cc1plus in 
the path for some strange reason.  I create a link to cc1plus so that is 
was in my path and "gcc -c main.cpp" works.
ln -s /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/egcs-2.90.29/cc1plus 
/usr/bin/cc1plus

Hope this helps,
lm

William Wueppelmann wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to make a program written in C++.  When I run the makefile, I
> get the following output:
> 
> cc  -O3 -g -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -Wno-unused -Wno-format -W
> -Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -I -fno-strength-reduce
> -DREGPARAM="__attribute__((regparm(3)))"  -I/usr/X11R6/include -I./
> -DBROKEN_JOYSTICK_H= -DFRODO_HPUX_REV=0 -DKBD_LANG=0 -o main.o -c 
main.cpp
> cc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or 
directory
> make: *** [main.o] Error 1
> 
> I can manually compile main.c using
> 
> g++ -c main.cpp
> 
> with no problems, though when I try
> 
> gcc -c main.cpp
> 
> I get the same problem.  The problem program in question seems to be
> located at
> 
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/egcs-2.90.29/cc1plus
> 
> Anyone know what the problem might be?  I'm betting that it's a
> path-related problem somewhere, but this is the first time I've ever 
tried
> to make a program written in C++, so perhaps I'm missing something?  Any
> help would be appreaciated.
> 
> cheers
> 
> --
> William
> It is pitch black.  You are likely to be spammed by a grue.
> 


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From: Jeremy Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Socket operation on non-socket
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 14:24:27 -0400

I am getting an error when I am trying to start apache, the httpd file,
through inetd.  I am getting this message:
getpeername: Socket operation on non-socket
getsockname: Socket operation on non-socket
Error getting local address

I know it has something to do with the security on port 80 the http
port.  When I try to telnet to that port the telnet session closes.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Esko Woudenberg)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: How to get System Commander to boot Linux?
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 19:32:06 GMT

Have fun...  I once set up a system to multi-boot Linux, Windoze95,
and Windoze NT4 workstation using System Commander Deluxe...

I had some problems using the "add OS wizard"  If Linux is already
installed and configured to boot from the Linux "boot" partition.
(either / or /boot depending on how you defined your partitions? - a
little fuzzy on this) then just bail out of the start up menu to the
menu maintenance and add an entry for Linux pointing to the partition
LILO is set to load from.  (Recommend against starting from the master
boot record unless you want to rely on LILO for your multi-boot needs
and abandon System Commander...)


If you have not already loaded everything keep the following in mind:

Windoze 95/98/DOS needs to be installed for System Commander to do its
job.  (Unless you want to use FAT with NT)

 Windoze NT is least flexibile on where to boot from.  (has to boot
from a partition on first physical hard drive with a starting sector
before 2047MB)

Linux can boot from any drive and does not need a "primary partition"
in order to load.  (Making it the most flexible of the three OS
choices as far as the multi-boot partition stuff goes)  Therefore I
recommend loading it last.

System Command can resize FAT / FAT32 partitions.  NTFS and LINUX
partitions can not be resized after they are created so plan partition
sizes carefully.

YMMV
Esko


>I am trying to boot Win98, WinNT, and Linux using System Commander.  I
>know that you have to point System Commander at you Linux partition to
>get it to boot.  What partition do I want to point it at and how do I
>point it?
>Also in the future I would like to add Solaris 7.  Would I have to do
>this the same way?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>

Who says Windoze is unstable?  My Windoze box is COMPLETELY and TOTALLY stable...  (As 
long as I leave the power off...)

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From: "William B. Cattell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Accounting software (quicken type) for LINUX?
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 05:08:59 GMT

Peter Kerekes wrote:
> 
> Is there an accounting software made for Linux, similar to Quicken, or can
> somehow quicken be used with Linux OS?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Peter
> - -
> 
> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
>  the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt
>  the world to himself. Therefore all progress
>  depends on the unreasonable man."
>  George Bernard Shaw
> 
> Peter Kerekes Thornhill, Ontario, Canada E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

There's a package I read about in PCWeek called VMWare (I think)
that supposedly runs Windozw95/98/NT files in a window in X under
Linux.  The personal copy price was listed at $99 so it ought to
be less expensive somewhere.  I haven't tried it but plan to
since I have MYM and Quicken and need access to their features.

Bill

-- 
==============================================================
http://members.home.com/wcattell
==============================================================
Park not thy Harley in the darkness of thine garage, that it 
may collect dust for want of being oft ridden. Ride thy Harley 
with thy brethren, and rejoice in the spirit of the road.
==============================================================

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From: "V.Yavuz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: fetchmail leave one copy
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:28:15 +0300

Hi All,
I get mails from isp with use fetchmail program.How can i leave one copy of
the mails in the isp (pop3 server ) ?.Is it possible.?
Thanks.





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From: "William B. Cattell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can I use SCSI Emulator & SCSI?
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 05:14:32 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I've got a real problem.  I followed the instructions for driving an
> ATAPI CDR by configuring my kernel for scsi emulation.  All works fine
> for the CDR, but now I can't access my scsi harddrive.  A listing of
> /proc/scsi/scsi shows the two cdroms but no harddrive.  If I boot the
> kernel without scsi emulation, the harddrive shows up fine.  Can I have
> both?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Tom
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

Yes, you should be able to.  I have an Adaptec 2940 with 1
internal drive and two external drives.  I compiled in the
Adaptec stuff when I built the system then re-compiled and
included IDE SCSI emulation for the HP 8100.  Works just fine.

Bill
-- 
==============================================================
http://members.home.com/wcattell
==============================================================
Park not thy Harley in the darkness of thine garage, that it 
may collect dust for want of being oft ridden. Ride thy Harley 
with thy brethren, and rejoice in the spirit of the road.
==============================================================

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: GLX accelerated quake with TNT card
Date: 9 Jun 1999 18:15:06 GMT

Hi. I am trying to get quake 2 working with my TNT card on linux. 
Unfrotunately, this is not in the quake howto yet ( hint hint ) 

So far, I have the following: 

firstly, it works fine in software rendering modes ( softx and soft ) 

My current setup is as follows: 

I removed the ref_glx.so file from the quake2 directory ( /usr/local/quake2 )
and copied the nvidia glx.so library into that directory , and made 
ref_glx.so a link to glx.so

I also have the libGL.so* files from the nvidia distribution in my quake
directory, and symbolic links libMesaGL.so* in that directory.

When I try to put it into GL/X mode, it exits with this error:

LoadLibrary("ref_glx.so") failed: /usr/local/games/quake2/ref_glx.so: 
undefined symbol: GlxExtensionInitPtr 

Does anyone have an idea (a) how to set up quake2 with a TNT board or
(b) what I am doing wrong ? 

thanks,

-- Donovan

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From: Lester Memmott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie GCC problem
Date: 9 Jun 1999 19:31:22 GMT


I'm using RedHat 5.2 and found that for some strange reason the install 
doesn't put cc1plus in the path.  I corrected it by putting a link in 
/usr/bin to the actual file:
ln -s /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/egcs-2.90.29/cc1plus 
/usr/bin/cc1plus

You can use "find / -name cc1plus" to see where cc1plus resides on your 
system if it has been installed.  If you run this as root you get fewer 
error messages since root can recurs through all directories.

Once you do this gcc should be able to call cc1plus with no problems.

Hope this helps,
lm




Gary  Helbig wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm having a little problem with gcc (RedHat 5.2 install)
> 
> If I try to compile a program that ends in '.c', all is OK.
> 
> If I try to compile a program that ends in '.C', I get an error:
> gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or 
directory
> 
> I found this while trying to "configure" a Makefile for a
> program I downloaded.
> 
> Any clues?
> 
> TIA,
> Gary.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Knowles)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux,linux.help
Subject: Re: Editing a 4.7Mb file (VI limit 2Mb)
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 09:53:10 +0200

In article <7jkliu$7m4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> How do you edit large files with Linux ? The file we want to edit is
> 4.7Mb

    Assuming you want to stick with a vi-like program, you can get vim
(see www.freshmeat.net for the latest version info, etc...) and install it
in place of or in addition to the standard "elvis" vi-clone.

    If you're willing to sell your soul to the RMS, I guess you could use
emacs instead.  ;-)

-- 
Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.shub-internet.org/brad/>
    <http://wwwkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE38CCEF1>

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Reply-To: "Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: How to get System Commander to boot Linux?
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 03:57:24 -0400

I just got win98, NT, and Linux to boot using the *NT* bootloader. It was
slightly complex for a newbie, but it works great!!! System Commander was
too flaky for me.

Robert


Edward J. Smiley Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7jk3a6$1m4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am trying to boot Win98, WinNT, and Linux using System Commander.  I
> know that you have to point System Commander at you Linux partition to
> get it to boot.  What partition do I want to point it at and how do I
> point it?
> Also in the future I would like to add Solaris 7.  Would I have to do
> this the same way?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
> --
> Ed Smiley
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.



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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Patte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: irritating-small-problems
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 09:25:00 +0200

Bonjour,

Since I upgraded my rh5 to rh6 I have some troubles:

1- In console mode my keyboard is turned in qwerty mode but it is an
azerty one under xwindow. I have to do the following sequence: use
kbdconfig (the keyboard dispayed by kbdconfig is fr-latin1), choose
another keyboard, quit kbdconfig, reuse kbdconfig to reset fr-latin1
keyboard. This setting stands for only one session. I think that we can
find something more simple!

2- With the rh5, I used to boot under xwindow (init 5 in the inittab)
now it is impossible, the boot fail with this message: "cannot execute
/etc/prefdm". There no prefdm file on my system!

3- The french man pages have lost their accents.

4- I had my rxvt terms with a specific font (rxvt -fn myfont), this font
is still present on my system as I can see it with xlsfonts and emacs
use it without any problem, but rxvt refuses to do so.

5- I have some trouble with apm: the clock is not correctely set when I
resume after a standby period (2 hours late) and sometimes the xterms
are freezed, I have to quit xwindow and restart it.

If anybody has any ideas on these small, but irritating, problems......

Thank you.

-- Fran�ois Patte. UFR de math�matiques et informatique.
45 rue des St P�res. 75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tel: 01 44 55 35 59 -- Fax: 01 44 55 35 35
http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Reinhardt Behm)
Subject: Boot Linux from SCSI (with OS/2 boot manager)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 9 Jun 1999 19:40:48 GMT

Hi,

I cannot boot linux with LILO on my SCSI disk. The config is:
/dev/hda OS/2 bootmanager + DOS
/dev/hdb OS/2
/dev/sda Linux

Trying to boot Linux gives only screen fulls of 01 01 ... 
This happens when I try to boot linux with Boot Manager or by setting Boot from SCSI 
in the BIOS.

Linux works when booted from floppy or from DOS partition with LOADLIN

Any help ?

TIA
Reinhardt Behm, Nauheim, Germany, [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning)
Subject: Re: cannot mount floppy
Date: 9 Jun 1999 06:04:17 GMT

Antonio Martinez-Alcantara ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I am  new at linux and I cannot mount a floppy disk with
: msdos files. I am typing
:
: mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy
:
: I  have also tried vfat and umsdos instead of msdos  above.

What errors do you receive? Does the directory /floppy exist?
What does the file /etc/fstab say? Is there a floppy disk in
the drive? Are gremlins known to be or suspected of inhabiting
your room? If so, did you feed them after midnight, etc.?

--
Scott Lanning: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://physics.bu.edu/~slanning
"I do believe God gave me a spark of genius, but he quenched it
in misery." --Edgar Allan Poe

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From: Rene van Paassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Run time measurement with micro (or at least milli)-second
Date: 09 Jun 1999 09:53:22 +0200

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (LEBLANC ERIC) writes:

> Virasit Imtawil ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : 
> :     Dear All,
> : 
> :     I am sorry if this is not where I should write but I would like your
> : help. I am a beginner here. I use Redhat linux (kernel 2.0.32). I would
> : like to know how to measure CPU executing time within the C source code in
> : micro (or at least milli)-second resolution. I tried clock() command but
> : it's just second resolution which is extremely coarse. For example, I have
> : a C code like
> 
> I'm a beginner too...
> 
> If it is for optimisation purpose, you might try compiling your program
> with profiling enabled. It will give you an usage summary per functions.
> It has a resolution of .01 seconds.

And if it is really about measuring wall clock time, you might have a look 
at

         http://hegel.ittc.ukans.edu/projects/utime/

Which describes modifications to the kernel to get high-precision
timing information

Regards,

        Ren�


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Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 22:07:32 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mosaic: is it dead?

Neil Zanella wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Just out of curiosity, is Mosaic still around?
> 
> How does it compare to Netscape?
> 
Isn't Mosaic == Netscape (more or less)? I remember reading somewhere
that Netscape bought it from NCSA and continued development.

Marc

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From: damons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can login via telnet but not Xterm...
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 16:09:33 -0400

My linux box is on a lan at home.  I can telnet into from my macintosh
but when I run an x-windows emulator (eXodus) I cannot get it to
respond.  The LAN connection is up but apparently the linux box is not
responding to an xdmcp query.  How do I get it to do that?

thanks.

Bill Damon, Salem, VA


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Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 15:54:45 +0800
From: Eddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Any Mail Application for commercial use

Besides Zmail and Sendmail, is there any mail application suitable for
commercial use ? As Sendmail seems too complicated for commercial and
the user interface is not so user-friendly.

Eddy


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Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 22:26:48 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LaTeX problem

Charly wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
>         I've installed LaTeX for my redhat version (5.2) in RPM format.
> But I doesn't seem to work !
> I found no doc, but with the doc of an app that need Latex, it says that
> I must run texenv.sh
> But this file does not exists !
> The user (that uses the app) told me that a message appear telling him
> that the file 'psfig.tex' is needed.
> But this file does not exists !
> I found it on ftpSerach, but I don't know what to do with this file,
> where to put it !
> 
If you have teTeX, then you have to run texconfig. There you can setup
your printer and rebuild the database of the files (something like
locate/updatedb)

Marc

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From: Dan LaPine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Backup recommendations?
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 15:22:25 -0500

Then go out and buy an inexpensive CD burner. They are available for under $200 for
an ide model, and you can't get cheaper media.
That's not to mention all the other uses they have. (DAT really bites on my car CD
player...)

Dan LaPine
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dominic Mitchell wrote:

> Well the strategy I use to backup the system is to use both a tape
> and hard drive.  I run a weekly backup to the tape and I do a mirror
> of the hard drive regularly from a cron job.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dominic.
>
> mk> In addition to this, most failures are single files accidentally deleted
> mk> by users or corrupted for any reason. Often, you will notice the corruption of
> mk> a file weeks or even months after it actually did happen. So, if you make
> mk> weekly backups, you will have to buy one new HD every week... or use a tape
> mk> drive.
>
> mk> Kili
>
> --
> ==============================================================
> Dominic Mitchell           Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Department of Economics    mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Queen's University
> Kingston, Ontario
> Canada, K7L 3N6            Running Linux Redhat 5.2
> ==============================================================


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Edstrom)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Does Java run well on Linux?
Date: 9 Jun 1999 20:23:11 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Ted Sikora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Pokka wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry, the fact is: Java is as crappy as (if not more crappy than) Windoze.
>> If you ever tried writing an application on Java, you'll notice that its
>> performance is worse than the worst VB program you can write.  
> 
> That's totally not true. I use both OS/2 Warp and Linux/FreeBSD
> for Java development. The lastest versions 1.1.7-1a and 1.1.8 for
...
> 
> Swing-1.1 also runs excellent under Slackware and FreeBSD3.2.
> (Note: I use libc(5.4.46) under Linux and Metrolink Motif 2.1)
> I have had bad luck with glibc in general. I am waiting till
> 2.1 on Slackware then you will know it is stable.
> 
...

One problem I've run into is Java CORBA under RedHad 6.0.  Parts of
that just plain don't work.  

> 
> --
> Ted Sikora
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://tsikora.tiac.net

-- 
 John Edstrom | edstrom @ slugo.hmsc.orst.edu

 http://bubo.hmsc.orst.edu/~edstrom

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Any Mail Application for commercial use
Date: 9 Jun 1999 08:14:18 GMT

[Please be more selective in your choice of newsgroups. Newsgroups trimmed
and f'up set]

Eddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Besides Zmail and Sendmail, is there any mail application suitable for
>commercial use ?

>From the examples you give, I'll assume you're looking for a Mail Transfer
Agent (MTA) rather than a Mail User Agent (MUA, e.g. elm, mutt, netscape).

Debian GNU/Linux ships with the MTAs exim (http://www.exim.org), sendmail
and smail. Debian GNU/Linux is composed only of software that meets the
Debian Free Software Guidelines
(http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines), which imply that
commercial use is allowed.

Additionally Postfix (http://www.postfix.org) and qmail
(http://www.qmail.org) are available in Debian package format. They do not
meet the DFSG, but for different reasons than disallowing commercial use.

>As Sendmail seems too complicated for commercial and the user interface is
>not so user-friendly.

Commercial support for sendmail is available via Sendmail Inc.
(http://www.sendmail.com/), so obviously many people do not consider it too
complicated for commercial use.

HTH,
Ray
-- 
ART  A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. 
I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking 
his name in vain. 
- The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan 

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From: David Renton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: SECURITY ISSUES: Single user restriction at lilo boot:
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 20:15:42 GMT

Hello,

How about encrypting the file system?  Linux Journal had an article on this
in July 1998 which used the DES/IDEA kernel patches to allow encrypting a
file system.  Hence the only way to mount the file system would be with a
password.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi ,
>
> I know that booting from floppy as single user and mounting the root
> disk can be used to rescue a system with a forgotten root password. I'm
> also aware that this is a part of any unix system.
>
> It so happens that Lilo form the harddisk accepts the "linux single"
> boot option. Allowing any one to gain root access.
>
> This poses a problem because we plan to depoly some PCs with linux in
> our computer labs and have /home nfs mounted. Given the lack of security
>
> that nfs presents, this posses great problems because a user who has
> gained root access can su to any user in the domain.  since most of our
> UNIX systems are setup this way, the /home directory has to be nfs
> mounted.
>
> Comming to the point, How do you block the "linux single" param at boot
> up? what other work arounds can you suggest? Since these are PCs and
> have reset buttons, power cords any user can reboot the machine.
>
> This issue is what prevents us fom deploying linux and new students and
> prospective members of the linux community are at risk.
>
> All help would be greatly appriciated.
>
> Thanx
> Arun.

--
____________________________________________________________
David Renton
Roy Foss Motors
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Niel Markwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kill child of shellscript
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 10:06:18 +0200

Ed Young wrote:
> 
> Vic Mortelmans wrote:
> >
> > suppose I have the following shellscript:
> >
> > #!/bin/bash
> > command1 &
> > while sleep 30s; do
> > command2;
> > done
> >
> > But now, when I kill the script, command1 keeps running. How can I make
> > sure all commands invoked in the script are ended together with the
> > script ? Preferably in such a way that I don't need to use a special
> > form of the kill-command.
> 
> Try killing the xterm you launched the shellscript from...

or trap the signal and kill the background process(es):

#!/bin/bash
command1 &
command1_pid=$!
trap "kill $command1_pid ; exit" INT HUP TERM 

while sleep 30s; do
command2;
done

HTH,

Niel

-- 
Niel Markwick
Kontich, Belgium.

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