Linux-Misc Digest #593, Volume #20               Fri, 11 Jun 99 22:13:14 EDT

Contents:
  Re: <Q>Logitech bus mice setup (Mohd H Misnan)
  Re: StarOffice 5.1, missing "soffice", redhat 6.0 (Sid Boyce)
  Re: PPP (Ian Briggs)
  Re: what's better? Suse 6.1 or redhat 6.0? (Aaron and Hifumi)
  Re: How do I use an on-board NIC? (Mircea)
  Re: Lpd won't accept print jobs from other machines (L J Bayuk)
  Internet/Proxy bandwidth control? ("Grant Smith")
  Re: Name For Distribution ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: problems with glibc2 (root)
  Re: Commercially speaking....? (Mr S A Penny)
  mouse behaviour quake2/linux/banshee (S. Klein)
  Re: duplicating a whole hd (Collin W. Hitchcock)
  Re: Commercially speaking....? (Mr S A Penny)
  Re: Access Control (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Help: setting up cdrom on ide on SB16 PnP ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: prevent detection of 2nd HD (Mr S A Penny)
  Re: A new front in the war is opening! ("Death Knight")
  Re: Some USR modems are MS-only, Re: [SURVEY] Who has an internal   (9wands)
  Re: Lpd won't accept print jobs from other machines (Vilmos Soti)
  Re: Trident Blade 3D support in Xfree86
  Re: CD-writers on Linux (HP8100i) (jik-)
  Re: How do u find remote system's OS version?? (Matthew Bafford)
  Re: Commercially speaking....? (Mr S A Penny)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mohd H Misnan)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: <Q>Logitech bus mice setup
Date: 11 Jun 1999 06:35:06 GMT

On Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:19:33 -0700, Ling Liu wrote:
>
>I tried to use Logitech bus mice on my Linux PC. I used to have serial
>mouse and it works fine in X Window. The port I used is
>/dev/mouse->/dev/ttyS1. I tried and this port didnt work out. I want to
>know what's the correct dev port I should use for Logitech bus mice.
>Thanks

Try /dev/logibm instead.

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From: Sid Boyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.1, missing "soffice", redhat 6.0
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 23:59:49 +0100

Make sure you have the full file ........
-rw-------    1 root     root     74072576 May 21 05:41
/usr1/so51_lnx_01.tar
        after exploding the tar-ball, cd into the directory and run ./setup, if
that fails to deliver, then there is something else on your system that
has failed, ./setup 2>&1|tee setup.out then browse setup.out to see what
fails.
Regards
Sid.
=============================================
Andrew Torda wrote:
> 
> I ran the install for StarOffice 5.1 with no problems.
> Everything chugs along and finished without complaint.
> Now, there is no "Office51/bin/soffice" file. Really.
> In fact, the only executable in the bin directory is
> "setup.bin" which is not very interesting.
> Where on earth is this file ?
> 
> find office_path -name 'soffice' convinces me it is really not
> there !
> 
> Absolutely everything else seems to be in place.
> There are lots of happily populated directories like bin, cde,
> config and so on.
> This happened with RedHat 6.0.
> I did not choose any particularly strange options during
> installation, except for not asking for kde or other special
> interfaces.
> I would be grateful for any suggestions.
> -Andrew
> --
> This posting is not merely my opinion.  It is the official position
> of my employer, the Australian National University.
> Andrew Torda, Research School of Chemistry, ANU, ACT 0200, Australia
>     [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.rsc.anu.edu.au/~torda

-- 
... Sid Boyce...Amdahl(Europe)...44-121 422 0375 
Any opinions expressed above are mine and do not necessarily represent
 the opinions or policies of Amdahl Corporation.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Briggs)
Subject: Re: PPP
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 23:39:13 GMT

DJ Mike wrote:
:I've read the PPP-HOWTO, NAG and the RH PPP-TIP back to front and I can't
:find anything that can solve my problem.

How about Bill Unruh's "How to hook up PPP", an easy step-by-step guide to
writing PPP scripts?  It's at http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html.

Ian

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From: Aaron and Hifumi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what's better? Suse 6.1 or redhat 6.0?
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:25:16 -0400

There is no best distribution, contrary to the much fighting on which is
actually best. There is a case to be made for every distribution of Linux
on the planet. The only way to find out, is to try each of them
personally and make the decision yourself. If you are concerned about the
price, buy the GPL versions of each (something like $1.99 american a cd)
from a place like cheapbytes or similar, and try them both out. If you
prefer one over the other, and want the extra goodies that come with the
full version, by all means, buy the commercial deal for big $$$$.

Aaron


aurant wrote:

> Hi my name is Aurant.
> Im wondering whats better?
> Suse 6.1 or redhat 6.0.
> I already know that redhat is much more expensive, but is it worth it?


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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I use an on-board NIC?
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 19:49:02 -0400

The brand is irrelevant, it's the chipset that matters. Do you know what
it is? You may find some info in Windows' system configuration.

MST


GTE News wrote:
> 
> I just got an el-cheap-o PC.  It seems to have everything build onto the
> motherboard, including the NIC.  It works fine with Win98, but how can I get
> Linux to see the NIC?  It's not any brand listed in the list of Linux NICs

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (L J Bayuk)
Subject: Re: Lpd won't accept print jobs from other machines
Date: 12 Jun 1999 00:17:52 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I have a RedHat 5.2 system with a printer that should be available to
>other machines on the network. And it works fine, except that lpd
>refuses print jobs from people who do not have accounts on the print
>server.
>
>According to the Printer HowTo and the printcap man page, this behaviour
>can be configured by specifying the rs attribute in /etc/printcap.
>However, I do not use this attribute, and the default should be false.
>Adding an explicit rs=false doesn't help either.
>
>Is this a bug in ld?

Haven't heard this before, but I will take a guess.
Perhaps the "people who have accounts on the print server" are
also printing from hosts who's names are in /etc/hosts.lpd and/or
/etc/hosts.equiv on the server? And those who can't print are from hosts
who don't?

The 'rs' flag definitely defaults off. You would use :rs: alone
to turn it on; rs=false is not valid. (Undocumented, but you
can also use :rs@: to force a flag off, but it isn't needed.)

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From: "Grant Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Internet/Proxy bandwidth control?
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 00:46:05 +0100

I share an ISDN link to the internet with my wife who uses it for online
gaming. This causes problems when I go browsing or downloading as my
activity 'hogs' the link and usually ends up with me being shouted at!

I have an NT Server running MS Proxy 2 serving a win95 workstation and a
RedHat Linux 6.0 workstation. Does anyone know how I can limit bandwidth use
so say we effectively have half each without ever hogging the whole
connection? Although the proxy server is currently a NT machine I'd be quite
happy to change to a Linux Server if I could solve this problem.

Thanks all for considering this query

Grant



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Name For Distribution
Date: 12 Jun 1999 00:36:24 GMT

In his obvious haste, -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
:>     Phat Linux
:>     Lunix
:>     Or Artic Linux  ("What the penguins use");

: What about Penny; since the Linux-penguin is named Tux (masculine)
: he needs a mate, Penny.  We don't want to be sex-centric, do we.

Also, Lunix is already  being used for a linux-alike on the Commode 64...
Oooops... Commodore 64...

>*slapped wrist*<

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|                          | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit |
|     Andrew Halliwell     | operating system originally  coded for a 4 bit |
|       Finalist in:-      |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
|     Computer Science     |        can't stand 1 bit of competition.       |
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: problems with glibc2
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:59:59 -0400

Mark Tranchant wrote:

> Sorry - that wasn't specifically directed at you. The trouble is that
> there have been several people attempting the glibc2 upgrade purely
> because of the contents of Documentation/Changes. I'd suggest that if
> they can't find it for themselves, the upgrade will give them grief. I
> found it and compiled/installed it myself (over a Slackware system) and
> it gave me grief!
>
> Mark.
>
> Mark Johnson wrote:
> >
> > Presumably 'root' needs it. At least he asked for it.
> >
> > I told him where to find it; and don't care whether he needs it, wants it,
> > gots to have it, or whatever.
> >
> > Mark Tranchant wrote:
> >
> > > Guys - you don't *need* glibc2 to run 2.2.x kernels. The Changes
> > > documentation tells you what version if libc5 / glibc2 you should have
> > > *if you use it*.
> > >
> > > Mark.
> > >
> > > Mark Johnson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Where to get glibc 2.0.7?
> > > >
> > > > It tells you in linux-2.2.9/Documentation/Changes

Thanks for the help! I ask for it cause try to install java 1.2 and it ask for
glibc 2.0.7. Netscape 4.5 for glibc2 ask for it, and oracle 8 for linux need
only linux 2.0.34 and ask for the same glibc2 version also.  Is glibc2 2.0.7
for linux 2.2.x only or...? and ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu/glibc/ only has
up to 2.0.6.  It is confusing.

Thanks again
James



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mr S A Penny)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Date: 11 Jun 1999 14:12:48 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        John Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>What confuses me more is why, in thier attempt to hide DOS, did MS give
>Windows95 long filename support but not DOS 7.  I can only assume it would
>be just as easy/easier to do this at a lower level than a higher one. And
>it would make the product much easier to use. Nothing annoys me more than
>them stupid "~1" 's.

the problem is in the filesystem, the filenames are still stored in 8.3
format, with extra information hidden away somewhere else... I agree that
the ~1 thing is bloody iritating, though...

SammyTheSingle
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (S. Klein)
Crossposted-To: alt.games.quake2,rec.games.computer.quake.misc
Subject: mouse behaviour quake2/linux/banshee
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 00:10:58 GMT

Hi,

now that there is banshee support for linux, I am bit disappointed that
quake2 is less playable in linux than in windows95.

My hardware:
- Pentium 150, 32 MB RAM, Creative Labs 3D Blaster Banshee PCI

I use Daryll's X server as well as his drivers to play quake2 under X
(glx). 
Kernel is 2.0.36.

Everything would be fine, if there were not the problem with the mouse
(ps2). In my case, it definitely has nothing to do with gpm, although I
normally use gpm for the console and as a repeater (gpm -R -t ps2) for
X, because I already tested running the game without gpm and using
protocol mousesystems and /dev/psaux for X. 
There is no difference at all (whether I use gpm as a repeater or
whether I use the mouse just in X, with /dev/psaux...), but mouse
behaviour is good for normal X applications.

The problem is:
Mouse movement in quake2 (with ref.glx) is not smooth enough, especially
when turning around (moving in circles). I always notice slight jumps in
this movement, no steady turning; it causes headache and dizziness!

Trying all kinds of values for sensitivity, m_yaw, xset didn't help at
all.
There are always little jumps in circular mouse movement, and it seems
that (whatever I do with m_yaw or xset) turning my mouse abruptly causes
(uncontrolled and unwanted) acceleration (although I tried with all
kinds of positive, negative or no acceleration, with xset m 0, xset m
2/1 10, xset m 1/10 10, xset m 1/100 10, xset m 1/1000 40 and so on and
so on).

In windows95 I do not observe this behaviour: The mouse moves steadily,
and even in abrupt turns, there is no stuttering or jerky behaviour, so
that I can always follow its movement with my eyes without losing
orientation for a moment and without feeling dizzy.

I am already glad that I could solve the damned problem with timeouts
while accessing the cdrom, and I wrote a nice customized script for
playing quake2 under linux, but without a solution to the "mouse issue"
I really prefer windows95 for quake2 (and glquake, of course, since
there is no banshee/glibc support).

Who knows the problem? Who found a good solution?
I hope, I get many helpful answers.
Thanks for your time to read this and perhaps answer me. Thanks to
Daryll, nevertheless.

S. Klein

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Collin W. Hitchcock)
Subject: Re: duplicating a whole hd
Date: 11 Jun 1999 20:30:56 -0400


>umask 000
>(cd /; tar -cf - . --atime-preserve -p --exclude=proc --exclude=mnt) | tar -xvf - 
>--atime-preserve -p
>umask 002

What's wrong with cp -a ?  Does the job and lots harder to screw up.

Collin

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mr S A Penny)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Date: 11 Jun 1999 14:18:48 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        John Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Chad Mulligan wrote:
>> John Garrison wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> >Eugene O'Neil wrote:
>> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> (Anthony Ord) wrote:
>> >> >On Mon, 24 May 1999 12:14:35 +0000, Jamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >>Iain Georgeson wrote:



>> This is only true, in upgrade type installations.  installing on a blank
>> hard drive you will not have DOS, you won't even have the option to boot to
>> DOS.  Just because the FS used was FAT doesn't make it DOS.
>
>Windows is started from the DOS program Win.com. If it is started from another
>OS then it is not as OS. DOS is in blank hard drive installs. DOS 7.0 is new to

I feel duty bound to point out the use of loadlin, loading linux from dos.
Linux is most definitely a complete OS. The difference is, however, that once
loaded, windows actually makes use of the DOS it was loaded from.

>> >[...] Nothing annoys me more than them stupid "~1" 's.
>>
>> Which are a legacy from early ftp program greeking of long filenames, and
>> example of MS attempting to present something familiar for the users.
>
>So what you are saying is that Microsoft is halting the advance of software
>technology because of some FTP programs that the average computer user (aka
>90% of Windows users) has never used? Sounds Kinda ass-backward to me, but
>that's Microsoft for you.

I've used ftp programs for quite a while under various OSs and the only time
I've ever come across the ~1 shite when using ftp is under a shite MS `OS'

SammyTheSingle
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www.warwick.ac.uk/~phuae/StSim/index.html --=<<latest update: 25/01/99>>==-
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Access Control
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 00:18:43 GMT

On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:28:38 -0400, Paul Chapin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>I'm relatively new to Linux and I'm wondering if there's a feature
>somewhere equivalent to Digital Unix's ACLs that let you control access
>permissions to particular directories or files on a user by user basis? 

chown and chgroup are your *present* friends in this regard; understand
them, and you will be able to resolve most of your needs. 

There is no ACL system at this time, although there are a number of
efforts ongoing to build such stuff; see the following URLS:

<http://mystery.inp.nsk.su/~art/linux/acl/>
<http://www.dwc.edu/users/frival/acl/>
<http://parc.power.net/morgan/Orange-Linux/linux-privs/index.html>
<http://x16.dejanews.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=435914490.1=923406353.1141047422=0>
<ftp://linux.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/security/linux-privs/>
<http://www.compuniverse.com/rsbac/>
-- 
OS/2: Why marketing matters more than technology...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/security.html>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help: setting up cdrom on ide on SB16 PnP
Date: 12 Jun 1999 00:43:10 GMT

In his obvious haste, [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled thusly:
: My poor old 486 will be cursed with having to run Dos if I can't solve
: this  :-(

I'm in a similar situation... So I only ever turn  it off when messing with
the insides, and the Microsoft infection is kept well contained on a boot
floppy...

:)

I con't know if there's a way to do it without the DOS drivers to set up the
initial configuration though...

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|    Computer science      |  vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge            |
==============================================================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mr S A Penny)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: prevent detection of 2nd HD
Date: 11 Jun 1999 14:40:13 GMT

In article <7i6ucg$ug6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  Chris Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >
>> > How can I prevent Linux (or Windows, for that matter) from knowing
>about
>> > the 2nd hard disk? I would like it to stay spun down, but every now
>and
>> > then linux accesses it for whatever reason. (Windows does too.) The
>OS
>> > is RH5.2.
>>
>> If you want to prevent the kernel from ever knowing about the drive,
>> then pass it the following option on boot-up
>> hdb=noprobe
>> (hdb should be replaced with the actual device you wish to hide)
>>
>> Alternatively you can search out which program is touching the drive
>and
>> spinning it up.
>
>
>Sounds good. Can I put that into some configuration file or do I have to
>mess with LILO here and remember to do it every time I change the boot
>configuration?

there is an option in lilo.conf to add command line parameters for the
kernel images, IIRC you can even set it globally so that it applies to
all kernel images rather than individually...
can't remember exactly what it's called ATM, probably parameters= "hdb=noprobe"
or something equally simple...

HTH
SammyTheSingle
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From: "Death Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A new front in the war is opening!
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 09:06:08 -0700

I thought the gaming industry was about making money, not about opensource
games.





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From: 9wands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Some USR modems are MS-only, Re: [SURVEY] Who has an internal  
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:28:17 -0500

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Andrew Comech wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 11 May 1999 09:28:17 -0700, Charles Morley wrote:
> >
> >
> >Jan Johansson wrote:
> >>
> >> >It would be good if 3Com would label its retail packaging clearly,
> >> >so we could know at point-of-sale which modems in its product line are
> >> >Microsoft-only.
> >>
> >> They do. They say "winmodem" or "sportster winmodem" on the box.
> >
> >They also say(mine did) on the back of the box: for windows only
> 
> This is not easy to read the back of the box when ordering over the
> phone or internet, though..
> a.
> --
> Looking for a Linux-compatible V.90 modem? See
> http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem

I have a Diamond Supra Express 56i internal in my Linux box and it
worked fine until I upgraded to RH 6.  6 set up /dev/ttyS2 as crw-------
with root as owner.  Anybody know how to change permissions for a
character device?  Neither hard linking nor symlinking to it seems to
help.
-- 
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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:08:31 +0000
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lpd won't accept print jobs from other machines

Konrad Hinsen wrote:
> 
> I have a RedHat 5.2 system with a printer that should be available to
> other machines on the network. And it works fine, except that lpd
> refuses print jobs from people who do not have accounts on the print
> server.
> 
> According to the Printer HowTo and the printcap man page, this behaviour
> can be configured by specifying the rs attribute in /etc/printcap.
> However, I do not use this attribute, and the default should be false.
> Adding an explicit rs=false doesn't help either.
> 
> Is this a bug in ld?
> --

Hi,

I had exactly the same problem but with printing from VMS. As later I
got to know it is a bug and all you have to do is to download an updated
RPM.

Bood Luck, Vilmos Soti

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Trident Blade 3D support in Xfree86
Date: 12 Jun 1999 01:30:43 GMT


> I dug a little further, and found info at Xfree86.Org that specifically 
says the Blade 3D chipset is not supported. 

No, but it *will* be supported in the next version of XFree86 (3.3.3.4 I 
think :), due for release sometime in June. Check Xfree86 release plans at 
their website 
http://www.xfree86.org/
and then check form time to time for their new release. 

Best regards, gacp


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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD-writers on Linux (HP8100i)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:41:46 -0700

s98tong wrote:
> 
> Easy to install CD-writers under Linux? which one to choose? Anyone who
> has any recommendations?
> 
> Thinking about buying a HP8100i CD-writer since it has got very good
> reviews
> in press. However, I�m wondering how it works under Linux? 

The 7200i does, don't see why 8100 wouldn't

Anyone who
> has tested? Does the HP disaster recovery work under Linux as well?

That is one...probably win32 software so *maybe* in whine, and 2...uses
udp or whatever (packet writing) for which sinux has no support so no.

 Is
> there anyone with another HP CD-writer model who has any experiences of
> running it and installing it under Linux?

Mine works great....having some problems playing CDs in it from 2.0.36
but when I had 2.2.3 it wasn't a problem.  ide-scsi might be better in
newer kernels.
> 
> Yours
> 
> Lars Tong Str�mberg

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Bafford)
Subject: Re: How do u find remote system's OS version??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 01:37:32 GMT

On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:55:04 -0500, Al Dev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
lit a large fire in his back yard, and sent the following via smoke
signals:
: I just want to find what operating system a remote website in internet
: is running.
: How do i do that in linux??

While your intentions may be benign, this question is very suspicious.

If not, please repost with an explanation, and I think you'll find people
will be much more willing to help you.

: For example if i want to find what OS and OS version a remote web site
: http://www.lsl.com  is running. What command do i use on linux.
: 
: I can do ping www.lsl.com and it gives the IP address.

If they want you to know, they will tell you.

Or, you could look on the website.

Or, try good ol' email:

% cat | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s 'OS & Version?'
Dear Sirs,

I've been very curious about what OS your web server (reachable at the
address: www.lsl.com (209.69.148.251)) happens to be running.  I've often
admired your beautiful (and fast) site, and I'd like to duplicate your
setup exactly.

I am eagerly awaiting your reply.

Sincerely,

Al Dev

P.S.  You better not be running RedHat Linux.  I HATE RedHat Linux.
^d
% 

HTH, HAND!

--Matthew

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mr S A Penny)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Date: 11 Jun 1999 15:09:08 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        John Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>goto http://www.vcnet.com/bms/departments/dirtytricks.shtml and see how much
>of it is in my head.
>

url appears to be broken...
 :(

SammyTheSingle
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