Linux-Misc Digest #593, Volume #25 Mon, 28 Aug 00 04:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: [HELP] How to configure SoundBlaster PCI 128 ("David ..")
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows (Darren Winsper)
Re: CD-RW multisession help (Wonil Roh)
Re: marking 'bad' sectors? (Quentin Christensen)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows (Loren Petrich)
Re: From RedHat to SuSE: A simple question (Richard Steiner)
Re: Reiserfs (Koos Pol)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [HELP] How to configure SoundBlaster PCI 128
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 00:48:34 -0500
Lam Dang wrote:
>
> I just upgraded to a new motherboard (ASUS
> A7V) which doesn't have any ISA slot. For
> sound, I got a SoundBlaster PCI 128. It
> works with Windows NT. Now I want to set it
> up for Linux (RedHat 6.2).
>
> I took a quick look but didn't find any
> documentation on the RedHat CD. Any pointers
> will be appreciated.
On my system it uses the es1370 module. I enter the line below into
/etc/conf.modules and then log out and login. I have heard that some of
the SB128 PCI cards use the es1371 module so you may want to try it
also.
alias sound-slot-0 es1370
Or:
/usr/sbin/setup
Choose sound config.
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 23:02:49 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
paul snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:2_lq5.20248$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8o9s06$c3b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > paul snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:%pTp5.18774$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > Oh, so all those hours I spent installing stuff on Solaris was really
> > > Windows?
> >
> > Does Solaris use Microsoft Windows terminology that you have used in
this
> > thread? If any of us have made a error as the the platforms you are
used
> to
> > using, it is as a result of the terminology that you have selected to
use
> to
> > present your ideas.
> >
> > > The point is that we need to get over the idea that installing is part
> of
> > > the abstractions that the OS provides. That mindset prevents us from
> > > developing technologies (such as those I am describing here) that can
> > > install across platforms.
> >
> > Technologies that already exist, assuming that the latest permutation of
> > your position is what you are really proposing.
> >
> > The are many things that don't map well or at all from one OS to
another.
> > How would you handle those details?
> >
> > Consider file and directory attributes and permission settings. They
> don't
> > map from one OS to another very well. The installation process needs to
> be
> > OS specific in this and in many other areas.
>
> Yes, we have developed a number of great tools for describing in abstract
> information, and rendering specifically to different targets. TeX, SGML,
> XML, and PostScript to name a few.
>
> Assume that I (as a developer) have two OS targets.
>
> One is a Forth based OS that still uses block addresses and has no file
> system at all. (The old Forth arguements against file systems: "File
> systems are bad, cause performance problems, and real programmers don't
need
> them. Just give us the blocks off the disk when we ask for them!")
>
> The other is Linux.
>
> Can we get any more different than that? So in my application's XML, it
has
> a <Forth> section that lays out each <Block number="1075"> and its
contents,
> and continues for every block it needs. My application also has a <Linux>
> section that details the directories, files, etc. that the Linux
> implementation requires.
>
> If it is so easy to see how I can describe these two installations, why is
> it so hard to believe we can cover Linux, Windows, Solaris, etc.?
>
> This thread isn't about auto-magically constructing valid represenations
of
> applications for any OS. This is about being able to describe a valid
> representation on any OS.
>
> Given a technology like XML that can be used to describe structured data
> (and variations of that structured data), use that to describe the set of
> software components for a computer system. Then render those components
as
> described, by managing in context their needs as defined as how they
should
> be expressed in storage.
>
>
What I see is that you fail to answer questions and keep changing your focus
when you stated goals are shown to be flawed. You have made many claims of
what should be but you have been more mercurious than hermes. You have used
empty phrases and invalid terminology to describe your goals, what ever they
are.
How about providing us with a concrete example of what you are proposing?
It does not have to be something big, just something simple like the "touch"
or the "yes" programs. Show how you would encode it to "render" the program
and install it on Linux (all platforms supported by Linux), BSD (pick you
favorite BSD), Solaris, MS-Dos, Windows NT, Windows 95, Forth, and to make
things interesting PET, CBM, TRS-80, Apple ][, Apple ][+, Series 1,
System 34, System 36, and an DOS/VS on an IBM 360 and OS on a IBM 370.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: 28 Aug 2000 06:14:04 GMT
On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 17:58:55 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > And they need to operate in an environment outside the execution
> > environment of the supported computer systems. They need to be able to
> > manage cross platform, distributed applications.
> Just what do you mean by that? It sound like a lot of empty talk devoid of
> real meaning.
I wonder if he realises you can practically do that with Mozilla now.
Take Chatzilla for example; you click on the "install Chatzilla"
button and Mozilla takes the .xpi file and installs it. It's platform
independant and easy. If Mozilla were to grow into a desktop shell,
then this ideal could be at least partially realised.
--
Darren Winsper (El Capitano)
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Stellar Legacy project member - http://stellarlegacy.sourceforge.net
DVD boycotts. Are you doing your bit?
This message was typed before a live studio audience.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wonil Roh)
Subject: Re: CD-RW multisession help
Date: 27 Aug 2000 23:22:40 -0700
In article <8ni9fk$hnf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I bought a HP 9110i CD-RW and successfully installed in
>RedHat 6.2. I am successfully able to write and erase the
>data in a re-writeable CD. But I am unable to successfully use
>the multi session option. Any help on this will be highly
>appreciated.
>
>Here are the details....
>
>I used the command to create RockRidge-extension file:
>
>/opt/schily/bin/mkisofs -R -o testcd database
>
>The version of mkisofs used is: mkisofs 1.13 (i586-pc-linux-gnu)
>
>
>The command I used to write to the CD burner is:
>
>/opt/schily/bin/cdrecord dev=1,0 speed=4 -multi testcd
>
>The output I received is:
>Cdrecord 1.9 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 J�rg Schilling
>scsidev: '1,0'
>scsibus: 0 target: 1 lun: 0
>Linux sg driver version: 2.1.36
>Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
>Device type : Removable CD-ROM
>Version : 0
>Response Format: 1
>Vendor_info : 'HP '
>Identifikation : 'CD-Writer+ 9100 '
>Revision : '1.0c'
>Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
>Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
>Driver flags : SWABAUDIO
>/opt/schily/bin/cdrecord: Drive needs to reload the media to return to
>proper status.
>Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in write mode for single session.
>Last chance to quit, starting real write in 1 seconds.
>[root@gnwdev sbehera]# /opt/schily/bin/cdrecord dev=1,0 speed=4 -multi
>testcd1
>Cdrecord 1.9 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 J�rg Schilling
>scsidev: '1,0'
>scsibus: 0 target: 1 lun: 0
>Linux sg driver version: 2.1.36
>Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
>Device type : Removable CD-ROM
>Version : 0
>Response Format: 1
>Vendor_info : 'HP '
>Identifikation : 'CD-Writer+ 9100 '
>Revision : '1.0c'
>Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
>Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
>Driver flags : SWABAUDIO
>Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in write mode for multi session.
>Last chance to quit, starting real write in 1 seconds.
>/opt/schily/bin/cdrecord: Input/output error. mode select g1: scsi
>sendcmd: retryable error
>CDB: 55 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 3C 00
>status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
>Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 26 00 00 8B
>Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
>Sense Code: 0x26 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in parameter list) Fru 0x0
>Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) error refers to data part, bit ptr 3
>(valid) field ptr 0
>cmd finished after 0.005s timeout 40s
>/opt/schily/bin/cdrecord: Warning: using default CD write parameter
>data.
>Mode Select Data 00 21 00 00 05 32 01 C4 08 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 00 00
>00 96 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>/opt/schily/bin/cdrecord: Cannot open new session.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>-siddharth behera
>http://www.globalnetwatch.com
>
>
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
I got the exactly same problem with HP9100 (IDE). Here's the output
of cdrecord 1.9:
lightblue:/home/wonil# cdrecord -v speed=8 dev=0,0,0 -multi work.img
Cdrecord 1.9 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 J��g Schilling
TOC Type: 3 = CD-ROM XA mode 2
scsidev: '0,0,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 2.1.36
Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
atapi: 1
Device type : Removable CD-ROM
Version : 0
Response Format: 1
Vendor_info : 'HP '
Identifikation : 'CD-Writer+ 9100 '
Revision : '1.0a'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags : SWABAUDIO
Drive buf size : 4183808 = 4085 KB
FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB
Track 01: data 150 MB
Total size: 172 MB (17:05.61) = 76921 sectors
Lout start: 172 MB (17:07/46) = 76921 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
ATIP info from disk:
Indicated writing power: 4
Is not unrestricted
Is not erasable
Disk sub type: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+) (3)
ATIP start of lead in: -11250 (97:32/00)
ATIP start of lead out: 337275 (74:59/00)
Disk type: Long strategy type (Cyanine, AZO or similar)
Manuf. index: 26
Manufacturer: TDK Corporation
Blocks total: 337275 Blocks current: 337275 Blocks remaining: 260354
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 8 in write mode for multi session.
Last chance to quit, starting real write in 1 seconds.
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready.
cdrecord: Input/output error. mode select g1: scsi sendcmd: retryable error
CDB: 55 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 3C 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 26 00 00 8B
Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x26 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in parameter list) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) error refers to data part, bit ptr 3 (valid) field ptr 0
cmd finished after 0.006s timeout 40s
cdrecord: Warning: using default CD write parameter data.
Mode Select Data 00 11 00 00 05 32 01 E4 08 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 00 20 00 96 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00
cdrecord: Cannot open new session.
cdrecord: fifo had 64 puts and 0 gets.
cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%.
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I wonder if this has anything to do with the multisession problem
with Sony drives described in README.sony coming with cdrecord package,
saying
"The Sony CDU-924 drive has no hardware support for CDROM XA2 mode 1.
If you want to create a multi session disk, you need to switch back to
-data (plain CD-ROM)
There is currently a bug in the Sony code of cdrecord that does
not allow you to have different track types in one session.",
because this HP 9100(or 9110) is virtually Sony CRX 140E.
And I tried to use '-data' option instead of '-multi', but it wrote
and fixated the disk as a single session, so no further session could
be written.
Anyone has a fix for this??
Wonil
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Quentin Christensen)
Subject: Re: marking 'bad' sectors?
Date: 28 Aug 2000 06:47:03 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc, on 23 Aug 2000, Peter T. Breuer announced:
>M. Buchenrieder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>: [...]
>
>:>Not... quite...
>:>You can remount a partition read-only and THEN perform fsck -c -y.
>:>(-y speeds things up when it gets to filesystem cleanup)
>
>: Not if it's the root partition - which may or may not be the case.
>
>You can do that as well. mount -rno remount /;
>
>Peter
Hello again, I tried to post here a couple of days ago, but my ISP's server was
down... Anyway:
I tried this and I get:
/ is busy
messages (something similar anyway). I have had a look at what is going on,
and the only thing running is the login shell...
Does anyone know how I can get around this problem?
If I try and e2fsck anyway, it warns me that I will probably screw something up
running it on a mounted filesystem, so i haven't done that :) (I'm only mostly
stupid, not completely :)
Regards
Quentin.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: 28 Aug 2000 07:09:12 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This who XML hysteria worries me. We have people thinking that it is
>something other than a very inefficient text based file format. Example:
[a somewhat verbose one]
As to examples, check this one out, which is the way I've
implemented configuiration files (or more precisely, MacOS resource-fork
contents) for the open-source version of Bungie's Marathon engine
(source.bungie.org):
<marathon>
<interface>
<!-- Cyan box displays for ammo -->
<color index="0" red="0" green="1" blue="1"/>
<color index="1" red="0" green="0.1" blue="0.1"/>
<!-- Modify the assault rifle's bullet display to look like the fusion
gun's -->
<weapon index="3">
<ammo index="0" type="1" across="52" delta_x="50" delta_y="40"
bullet_shape="0" empty_shape="1"/>
<ammo index="1" right_to_left="0"/>
</weapon>
</interface>
<motion_sensor>
<!-- S'pht'Kr look like hostile players -->
<assign monster="36" type="2"/>
<assign monster="37" type="2"/>
</motion_sensor>
<overhead_map>
<!-- F'licktas are honorary Bobs -->
<assign_live monster="33" type="0"/>
<assign_live monster="34" type="0"/>
<assign_live monster="35" type="0"/>
<assign_dead coll="11" type="0"/>
<!-- Hide the Juggernauts -->
<assign_live monster="38" type="-1"/>
<assign_live monster="39" type="-1"/>
<assign_dead coll="2" type="-1"/>
<!-- Show everything showable -->
<aliens on="true"/>
<projectiles on="true"/>
<items on="true"/>
<paths on="true"/>
<!-- Fun with colors; make the polygons and lines cyan -->
<color index="0" red="0" green="0.4" blue="0.4"/>
<color index="8" red="0" green="1" blue="1"/>
<color index="9" red="0" green="0.8" blue="0.8"/>
</overhead_map>
<infravision>
<!-- S'pht'Kr look friendly -->
<assign coll="11" color="1"/>
<!-- Gray walls -->
<color index="2" red="0.3" green="0.3" blue="0.3"/>
</infravision>
<animated_textures>
<!-- Couldn't think of what to put in here -->
</animated_textures>
<control_panels>
<!-- Water rechargers giving more energy and sounding like oxygen
recharger -->
<panel index="1" type="2" pitch="0.25">
<sound type="0" which="10"/>
</panel>
<panel index="2" type="3" pitch="0.5">
<sound type="0" which="10"/>
</panel>
</control_panels>
<platforms>
<!-- S'pht Door sounding weird; also, give health an seem like picking
something up -->
<platform index="0"
start_extend="12" start_contract="1" stop_extend="13" stop_contract="2"
obstructed="17" uncontrollable="19" moving="10">
<damage type="7" base="-10" random="3"/>
</platform>
</platforms>
<liquids>
<!-- Jjaro liquid a bit strange... Pfhorian appearance, Pfhor-staff
healing, weird into/out-of effects...-->
<liquid index="4" transfer="19" damage_freq="7" submerged="3">
<damage type="1" base="-1" random="0"/>
<sound type="0" which="24"/>
<sound type="1" which="25"/>
<sound type="2" which="27"/>
<sound type="3" which="28"/>
<sound type="4" which="3"/>
<effect type="2" which="0"/>
</liquid>
</liquids>
<faders>
<!-- Picking up stuff will look very interesting... -->
<fader index="7" type="5" initial_opacity="1" period="120">
<color red="1" green="0" blue="1"/>
</fader>
<!-- If hit by a Pfhor bolt... -->
<fader index="13" type="3" initial_opacity="1" period="60">
<color red="0.5" green="1" blue="0.5"/>
</fader>
<!-- Make water nearly-opaque cyan; make the sewage look like an
alien-weapon hit -->
<fader index="29" type="0" ><color red="0" green="0.5" blue="0.5"/></fader>
<liquid index="0" fader="29" opacity="0.8"/>
<liquid index="2" fader="24" opacity="0.8"/>
</faders>
<!-- More energy, less oxygen; vulnerable to F'lickta claws when
invincible -->
<player energy="300" oxygen="8100" stripped="100" light="0.1"
oxygen_deplete="-18" oxygen_replenish="-3" vulnerability="14">
<!-- Add a SMG and some ammo -->
<item index="1" type="34"/>
<item index="4" type="35"/>
<item index="7" type="35"/>
<!-- Hunter bolt looks like Pfhor, induces VacBob hit and death sounds,
causes flaming death -->
<damage index="12" threshold="-1" fade="13" sound="205" death_sound="203"
death_action="8"/>
<powerup infravision="1800" extravision="900" invisibility="2400"
invincibility="3600"/>
</player>
<view>
<!-- Expand the range and make the change rate slower -->
<fov normal="90" extra="160" tunnel="15" rate="1"/>
</view>
<weapons>
<!-- Make SMG look like assault rifle, but with antigravity -->
<shell_casings index="4" seq="19" vx0="0.03" dvy="0.1"/>
<!-- Rearrange the weapons; interchange SMG and alien weapon -->
<order index="5" weapon="6"/>
<order index="8" weapon="9"/>
</weapons>
<items>
<!-- Can pick up more SMG ammo -->
<item index="35" maximum="16"/>
<!-- Make a 1x recharger look like an uplink chip -->
<item index="19"><shape coll="7" seq="16"/></item>
</items>
<scenery>
<!-- Make the lamps destroyable -->
<object index="50" flags="5" destruction="2"/>
<object index="51" flags="5"><destroyed><shape coll="25"
seq="11"/></destroyed></object>
<!-- Make the glass container very fat -->
<object index="55" radius="1024" height="256"/>
<!-- Make the floor whip antenna solid -->
<object index="59" flags="1" radius="64" height="1024"/>
</scenery>
<landscapes>
<landscape coll="27" horiz_exp="0" vert_exp="2" ogl_asprat_exp="0"/>
</landscapes>
</marathon>
--
Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] And a fast train
My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: From RedHat to SuSE: A simple question
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 02:11:16 -0500
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, "Sly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake unto us, saying:
>Totally subjective, absolutely non-scientific. It's my personal experience.
>RH is extremely slow on my P133 with 80 Mb of RAM. It alweays been.
This is probably due to the fact that Red Hat generally ships with a
fairly resource-intensive window manager by default.
That can be changed.
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
+ VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
If money doesn't grow on trees, why do banks open branches?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Koos Pol)
Subject: Re: Reiserfs
Date: 28 Aug 2000 07:07:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:12:54 GMT, Rod Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
|
| ... so I converted one system's root partition to ReiserFS (...)
| but I had an odd problem:
| The system hangs approximately 3 out of 4 boots when
| starting crond. I've yet to figure out the cause, although it's clearly
| ReiserFS-related because it didn't happen before I converted the
| filesystem. I did find a workaround: Start crond from
| /etc/rc.d/rc.local rather than via the normal Red Hat 6.2 startup
| scripts.
I am very surprised to see you have a crond problem also. Out of the blue I
got a "crond: Can't redirect STDOUT" or somesort message in the the syslog.
Started when I changed / to reiserfs (SuSE 6.3) Can't start it from the
command line either. You must be right. It must be reiserfs related.
Without this itch, it serves here very well:
I have a very noisy server on the upper floor. And when the neighbour's
youngest son is to sleep with us, my wife just hits the power button to shut
it down... She does this al the time, and reiserfs doesn't seem to care
at all. Way to go for the home user! :-)
Koos Pol
======================================================================
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T:+31 20 3116122 F:+31 20 3116200 E:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 23:39:19 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
paul snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:D4nq5.20526$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > You do realize that is software that gives any meaning to the data on
the
> > storage device beyond just a collection of bytes or bits arranged as
fixed
> > sized records in th case of DASD devices. It is the processor that
gives
> > any meaning to the contents of ROMs, without interpretation the data is
> just
> > a random collection of whatever method is used to record the data. Just
> > like writing is just a random collection of marking for someone who can
> not
> > read it.
> >
> > What do you mean by "other platforms"? It seems that you are not using
> the
> > same meaning that is attached to it by the reset of us.
>
> My point is that the storage defines the software. Meaning is another
> issue, related closely to Magic.
As a wise man said, any advanced technology would appear as magic to a
primative. No wonder you are having trouble installing software and are
hoping for miracle solutions. I on the other hand am not a primative I
understand just how the software and hardware operate. I can assure you
there is no magic involved. It is technology based on sound scientific
principles that make the computers work. Do you know that programs can
exist without computer storage? So your statement that storage defines the
software is a invalid.
> The storage exists logically outside the execution environment of the
> software. Storage can be constructed for a processor with the software we
> want that processor to use.
>
> platform -- a physically different computer or a different OS or a
different
> processor, or smart storage. I'm pretty flexible with how you understand
> the term platform. Most readings work, best I can tell. I'll even take a
> virtual machine or two.
That is what I thought, you are incorrectly using the word "platform".
> BTW, Does it hurt to be reset ? ;-)
Pardon?
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Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
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