Linux-Misc Digest #593, Volume #21 Sun, 29 Aug 99 22:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux vs. Unix (pat zink)
Had it with RH6 (Chris Campbell)
Re: dual boot win 98 (remove-to-reply (Matt Friedman))
Re: What on earth is 'bing'? (Frank v Waveren)
Re: This is why RH 6.0 really sucks! (Vilmos Soti)
Re: This is why RH 6.0 really sucks! (Jack Zhu)
Re: This is why RH 6.0 really sucks! (Hal Burgiss)
Re: fsck after power failure (Stuart R. Fuller)
Re: distribution question (Stuart R. Fuller)
Re: [Q] message on telnet? (Stuart R. Fuller)
Re: What is the reasoning behind "stay away from root"? (Jon Skeet)
Re: dual boot win 98 (Anita Lewis)
VIA Chipset (davedude)
Re: Save my 486... Linux and HDD controller board (Jimmy Lio)
LinuxMail (Assad Khan)
Writing bash daemon (David Taylor)
Re: What's the difference between glibc and libc? (Chris Mahmood)
Re: 16Bit Netscape (Chris Mahmood)
Re: making linux go away ("Dario Andrade")
Re: Best language for graphical apps? (Chris Mahmood)
Re: What is best HTML Editor for LINUX? (Ed Allen)
Re: Had it with RH6 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: pat zink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Unix
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 01:43:03 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Floyd Davidson wrote:
> Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson) wrote:
> >>>>Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>Chris wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is this the same Barrow, Alsaka that's the Northernmost city in
> >>>>>> America?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>No. Barrow (which is the northermost city in the US) is not the
> >>>>>one in America. That would go to Alert, Canada, (if we can call
> >>>>>these cities...) which is way north of the (magnetic) north
> >>>>>pole.
> >>>>
> >>>>Alert, Canada??? I've never heard of it!
> >>>
> >>>It's a radar base at the most northern tip of Canada, and about as far
> >>>north as you can get anywhere in the world and still have solid land
> >>>under your feet. There's only a very small bit of land further north
> >>>than it anywhere. Take a look at a globe sometime and you'll find it
> >>>right beside the north end of Greenland, about 500 miles south of the
> >>>north pole.
> >>
> >>Radar sites (i.e., LRR, SRR, BMEWS and DEWLINE) are something I
> >>am very familiar with, but I still have never heard of this city
> >>called Alert, Canada.
> >
> >It's got the international station code YLT on SABRE.
> >
> >There do not exist scheduled flights to that station; it is
> >nonetheless a well-known CF base of operations.
>
> You've still missed the only significant point: it is NOT
> a city. (Just for fun, the only remote radar sight in the
> Arctic which might qualify as a "city", is the Tin City
> LRR site, which sits right on the Bering Straits.)
>
> Floyd
>
> --
> Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Pictures of the North Slope at <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>
so what kernal internals do you recommend for janes junkies --
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Campbell)
Subject: Had it with RH6
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:40:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Man, I've had with this piece of crap. I've spent in excess of two
weeks trying to get everything to work right. I was using 5.2 before
and everything worked right, almost the first time. Now, well, it
seems like all the major components are broken.
SB16 PNP worked flawlessly under 5.2, and is broken by default in 6. I
got it to work, only after pouring through several HOWTOs including
one for a completely different model sound card.
pppd,UserNet,kppp worked pretty much flawlessly under 5.2, now are
broken beyond repair. This is the one that did it to me. I can't get
pppd to connect to my ISP either under KDE using Kppp or under any
other X WM using UserNet. Man, THIS one has me upset. I've scanned
about 5 newsgroups continuously for the past two weeks, and have seen
several fixes as reported, but none seem to work. I can't believe how
many people are reporting problems...
Scanner. My Mustek SCSI scanner worked flawlessly under 5.2, and I
can't even turn it on in 6.
whew, ranting feels good. Now I'm relaxed. Back to (good) old 5.2.
Chris
--
Chris Campbell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.xoom.com/tech33/
Tech33 on the IRC
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Subject: Re: dual boot win 98
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED](remove-to-reply) (Matt Friedman)
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:27:09 GMT
Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Am I missing something here? Why not just use lilo? It may
>not give a menu that you can cycle through with an arrow key,
>but you can print out the contents of a message file telling
>you what to enter or to enter tab to see what you can enter.
>It seems to me that one would be going to a lot of trouble
>for very small gain to use anything but lilo.
Lilo will boot Linux, but it will not, to the best of my knowledge, give
you the option of booting to Linux, Windows, OR some other OS at boot time.
MF
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank v Waveren)
Subject: Re: What on earth is 'bing'?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 00:30:35 GMT
In article <7q9saj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ramon F Herrera) writes:
> 'bing' stands for "bandwidth ping". It is a tool that allows
> you to measure the bandwidth between any 2 routers. Probably
> the most important feature is that you can be at a point A
> on the Internet and from there you can measure the BW between
> points B and C.
>
> In my particular case I manage several sites around the US
> connected to the Internet through several ISPs of widely
> varying quality levels. At a certain site, we were told
> that our connection to the Internet is 56 Kbps, but I suspect
> that somewhere inside my provider's network there is an
> unavoidable "slow link" much slower than 56K and therefore
> we will never be able to achieve the BW that we are paying for.
>
> There is a very similar tool called "traceroute+bing" that can
> trace the list of routers and also give you the BW at every hop.
> I have been unable to make that tool work (the 'bing' part
> always says "unknown"), that's why I am looking for a standalone
> bing.
Ah, thanks.
--
Frank v Waveren
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ# 10074100
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From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is why RH 6.0 really sucks!
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 06:33:19 GMT
Jack Zhu wrote:
> 1. Lots of bug, and much more than ones of RH 5.0 which I used before.
> For example: I installed Oracle 8.0.5 for RH 5.0(Kernel 2.2.1)
> successfully many times(without doing any Linux side patch update). But
> I cannot install on RH 6.0 following the same way I used. Finally I find
> a web site to 'teach' me how to install Oracle 8.0.5 under RH6.0. I
> mean, this's silly. Backward compatible is very important for OS. In
> this point, RH is even worse than MS.
You read the README file didn't you? Just check it out. It talks about
glibc 2.0 and 2.1. This is not RedHat's fault. If my memory serves
correctly, StarOffice had also problems with RH6. They used calls in
glibc2.0 which they shouldn't have done. When glibc2.1 didn't include
those calls, StarOffice broke. Is it RH's fault? Or Glibc's?
> 3. When I try to upgrade to kernel 2.2.11, the boot warning message is
> like 'System map don't match'. Does RH force their customers only stick
> with Kernel 2.2.5? Really stupid idea.
Others have already gave you a very good answer about it. Follow their
suggestions.
> 4.Compare Slackware 4.0 and RH 6.0, which one is better? I never get
> chance to try Slackware. I don't need useless fancy things, I only need
> the pure Linux. Could anyone tell me which one is better for me,
> slackware or RH?
Maybe Windows95?
> Anyway, I think RH 5.0 is OK, RH6.0 is worse, much worse. And RH try to
> be Microsoft in Linux world, this is absolutely stupid. I already
> recommend all my friends get rid of RH products.
> Many of them also agree with me, there's a common sense that RH sucks!
I also plan to switch from them, I also think they have problems, but
all of the things you wrote are not their fault.
Vilmos
--
Looking for a job in British Columbia.
http://members.home.net/vilmossoti/resume.html
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From: Jack Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is why RH 6.0 really sucks!
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 01:42:06 -0400
Paul Kimoto wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jack Zhu wrote:
> > Paul Kimoto wrote:
> >>> 'System map don't match'
> >> This warning message is issued by klogd(8), and IS NOT SERIOUS.
> >> I suggest that you read the appropriate man page.
> > I know this msg is not serious, is nothing. But I think at least RH company
> > doesn't want you upgrade kernel.
>
> Oh, really, what should they do? Should they hack klogd so that it
> doesn't look for System.map? Should they not ship System.map at all?
>
OK, But when I upgraded kernel of RH 5.0 from 2.0.32 to 2.2.1, why there's not such
warning message?? How do u explain this? There's absolutely stupid software design.
It's like in MS NT or win98, if you upgrade a software package(such as Office 97 to
Office 2000) or a driver of one device, you got warning msg which is 'System doesn't
match'. Isn't this stupid?
BTW, in Derian, is there such warning msg when you upgrade the kernel?
> Maybe Slackware looks more traditional because it does not move so quickly
> on things like glibc. Red Hat seems to support the Linux Software Base
> (http://www.linuxbase.com); Slackware has apparently been more doubtful
> about it. The LSB is _supposed_ to help out with minimizing gratutious
> variations between distributions
Traditional stuff doesn't mean bad, or all of us should wait MS windows 2000. The
most important part is reliable and compitable system which MS lacks, that's why
many people likes Linux. If RH keeps its way, more people will get rid of RH.
Another thing is, how do you explain no 'resolv.conf' file in RH 6.0? Nobody will
happy about this.
Believe me, I think the reason that RH adds this kind of 'special' stuff is to try
to be MS in Linux world, which is dangerous for this used-be-good company.
>
> --
> Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is why RH 6.0 really sucks!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 29 Aug 1999 20:13:02 -0500
On Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:27:45 -0500, Joe Laffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sun, 29 Aug 1999, Jack Zhu wrote:
>
>>I also find out that RH likes to invent some
>> stupid stuff. For examples: everyone know there's a 'resolv.conf' file, and it
>> exists in RH 5.0, but in 6.0, RH uses other file to replace it. I think this
>> is very good example to show how stupid RH is. I mean, it's not RH 'invent'
>> linux, it's just a distributor. This is common knowledge that 'resolv.conf'
>> file is very important, RH should NOT try to change this. I don't know if
>> Debian or Slackware has the file. But I believe they do have.
>>
>
This is because you forgot to inform RH of your nameservers before they made
your personalized CD. Otherwise this is just an empty file and wouldn't
do you a whole lot of good anyway. Is it so hard to create this file?
Jeez ...
>My RH6 install has a resolv.conf in /etc where it belongs...
>
>Joe Laffey
>LAFFEY Computer Imaging
>St. Louis, MO
>
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Linux helps those who help themselves
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: fsck after power failure
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:54:37 GMT
Jim McIntyre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I recently had a power failure and lost my system. Upon reboot, I had
: numerous file system errors. I ran fsck several times, and got rid of
: all problems except for the partition containing /usr. After 45 minutes
: of trying, I could not go into a normal boot, since fsck could not clear
: up all the problems on this partition. I don't have a ups or a Linux
: compatible backup device (Syquest Sparq 1 gb external ide).
:
: Are there any other methods or tricks I could use to correct a file
: system. It is unacceptable for me to have to reinstall. Maybe I could
: sue some options with fsck, or a third party utility.
Well, you could try posting some of the problems. "It has problems" is not
terribly useful in troubleshooting.
Stu
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: distribution question
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:54:37 GMT
Klea Dzonsons ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi all,
:
: Ive been using RH 6.0 but I want to change distributions,
: a friend recommended I try Mandrake.
: What do you guys think of mandrake? is it stable and easy to configure?
For Mandrake, think of Redhat with some of the loose ends tied up and rough
edges filed off.
Stu
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: [Q] message on telnet?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:54:37 GMT
Cameron L. Spitzer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Okay, I commented out the boot-time overwrite, and put an
: empty file in /etc/issue.net, and my tcpserver (formerly inetd)
: invokes in.telnetd with -h, and my machine *still*
: prints its hostname with the login prompt.
I just tried it out on my system, and it does not give any host name
information.
What if you were to create /etc/issue.net with just a blank line in it. Would
that be sufficiently "blank" to suit your purposes?
Stu
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: What is the reasoning behind "stay away from root"?
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:35:27 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> A lot of these self-help Linux books, FAQs, and "words from UNIX gurus"
> always stress the importance of "Don't do anything in root! You will screw
> up your system!". But it seems as if almost everything that needs to be
> done, needs to be done as root!
>
> For example... when you get a new piece of software; tarball format. You
> need to :
>
> ./configure
> make
> make install
>
> (usually)
But how often do you get a new piece of software?
> You need to be root to do that... at least do the last one. And so many
> configuration options require root.
Again, how often are you reconfiguring your computer?
> Not to mention shutting down your
> comptuer at the end of your computing session!
You don't need to be root to do this, necessarily. Ctrl-alt-del works
fine on my home box. If you're on a system that needs rebooting often,
that's not a problem. If you want more security, you're likely to be on a
machine which stays up most of the time anyway.
> So why stress the paranoia buildup against using root?
Because it's so easy to muck things up as root.
> I can't go through a single DAY without needing to do some root-actions.
How much of your time do you spend altering your system compared with
actually *using* it?
> So that's why I'm root all the time.
Let me ask you a question: when you go out of your house, do you leave
the door open all day? I personally go out of my house at least once a
day, but I don't leave the door open. I shut it when I'm not going
through it. Same goes for root - use it for what you *need* it for, don't
use it apart from that.
--
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anita Lewis)
Subject: Re: dual boot win 98
Date: 30 Aug 1999 00:16:24 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have Lilo set to load Windows. If I type in linux
within a few seconds, it loads Linux.
Anita
On Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:27:09 GMT, remove-to-reply <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Lilo will boot Linux, but it will not, to the best of my knowledge, give
>you the option of booting to Linux, Windows, OR some other OS at boot time.
>
>MF
>
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From: davedude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: VIA Chipset
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 02:01:08 -0700
Has anyone out there had problems compiling with the VIA chipset
found on the FIC VA-503+ board? Seems to have some problem in the pci
bus. I haven't found anythin regardin this matter. Any help would be
appreciated =]
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From: Jimmy Lio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,hk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,tw.bbs.comp.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Save my 486... Linux and HDD controller board
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:16:14 +0800
Paul Sherwin wrote:
> Alternatively, you may have a seriously screwed up partition table.
> You could try deleting all existing partitions and starting again.
I'm not sure if this is the case. Before the installation, the 240Mb
harddrive had Windows 3.1 installed and was running great. After the Linux
installation, I low-formated the harddrive once and checked it with Partition
Magic 4.0 on my Win '98... everything was just fine... I guess I can dismiss
the possibility that the hard drive has a screwed-up partition table...
I noticed that some of you have controller boards with two IDEs. Mine is a
bit different --- there is only one IDE. In fact, I've got two controllers:
one Goldstar and the other UMC... My CDROM is on the SoundBlaster board,
which is automatically probed on Boot-up.
I also tried my 1.6 G hard drive with the machine and the situation was even
worse: The BIOS can't even auto-detect it... Man... I wonder how you guys
configure your 486DXs and make a 10 G hard drive running....
The motherboard on my 486DX has ISA and VESA(? not sure if it's VESA... they
looks like a regular ISA bus with a little brown bus in front of it... my
SoundBlaster, which looks hugh to me, is on this kind of bus)...
Thank you very much for the helps from all of you...
Jimmy
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From: Assad Khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LinuxMail
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 21:15:06 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I want a free hotmail-like email service which runs linux servers *ONLY*
and has the domain linuxmail.org
:-)
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From: David Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.bash
Subject: Writing bash daemon
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:51:23 +1000
Hi,
I've written a bash daemon to monitor printers for problems. Of course,
the script runs infinitely with pauses between checks. I'm using Debian
Linux and want to be able to stop and start the daemon and have it run
in the various run levels. However, the script does not go to the
background using the start-stop-daemon that comes with Debian. Can
someone please tell me what I need to do in order to make the shell
script act as a daemon (ie, release the terminal and go to the
background)?
--
David
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From: Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: What's the difference between glibc and libc?
Date: 29 Aug 1999 16:49:16 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack) writes:
> It is called "progress", which in the computer/software arena means:
>
> "periodically making all your existing software unusable"
>
> Unfortunately, this Microsoft trend seems to have infected the Linux world
> to some degree.
Yes, moving to a thread-safe libc was a horrible idea. Come on....
-ckm
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From: Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 16Bit Netscape
Date: 29 Aug 1999 17:18:33 -0700
Jim Engstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I trying to enter "www.zone.com" with Netscape communicator 4.6" but it
> always tell me that must have a 32Bits brovser and that it cant run on a
> 16Bit browser.
Sounds like the site doesn't want you to use anything but I.E. and
Windows. If it's the site I'm thinking off (I used to play chess
there a few years ago), MS bought them and disallows anything but
Windows machines to use it (not even Macs running I.E.).
-ckm
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From: "Dario Andrade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: making linux go away
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:06:16 -0300
Taking advantage of this conversation, how do I SETUP lilo on my MBR??
I mean, the easiest way, without having to read tons of man pages to do
something really stupid (in my opinion)...
--
[]s,
Dario Andrade
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mohd H Misnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sat, 28 Aug 1999 13:41:28 +0800, Tristan Jones wrote:
> >i found that the easiest way to get "linux to go away" is to dig up a
copy
> >of red hat, start the install and use disk druid to delete partitions.
then
> >use a dos boot disk (or a win95/98 one) and type:
> >
> >fdisk /mbr
> >
> >lilo will be removed and your disk(s) completely empty.
>
> If you've a bootable MS-DOS disk with fdisk, the above can be a very
simple
> thing to do. Run fdisk and delete all those non-DOS partitions, change
that to
> Win95/98 partitions and run fdisk /mbr to clear up LILO code inside your
master
> boot record.
>
> --
> |Mohd Hamid Misnan | [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
> |iMac/233RevB/MacOS 8.6 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
> |AMDK6-2/300/Linux2.2.12 | http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3319/
|
> -If only old age had a chance or youth any brains.
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From: Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Best language for graphical apps?
Date: 29 Aug 1999 15:55:53 -0700
"Max Reason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Okay, now inanimate "standards" or "objects" like Linux
> have individual human rights - "freedom". How brilliant!
> Obviously you have the right meaning. How dumb of me!
> Gee, where do I go to get my "freedom"?
*PLONK*
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Subject: Re: What is best HTML Editor for LINUX?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Allen)
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:48:10 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Chris Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>make a decent page.
>the original query was if there are any FP like programs for Unix,
>whereupon the original poster got stomped on. I was TRYING to make
>light of the issue.
>I post in several disparate ng's, but eh common theme about my posts
>are always that I will jump in when someone doesn't ANSWER the
>original question asked.
>I don't happen to KNOW off-hand the names of any programs that will do
>what the original poster wants, but I know there are some out there.
>
>How about someone, anyone, actually ANSWERING the post?
I don't know how good/stable it is but you might visit:
http://www.coffeecup.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Had it with RH6
Date: 30 Aug 1999 01:41:34 GMT
Wierd. I am running RH6.0 on 5 machines now. The only problems
I had upgrading from RH5.2 to RH6.0 were:
- commented out all lines in /etc/inputrc so 'set -o vi' would
work on the bash command line
- changed my printer from lp1 to lp0
RH6.0 runs faster with the 2.2 kernel. It isn't any more stable
(RH5.2 never crashed on me, neither has RH6.0 ;-).
I guess I'm lucky. Anyway, I like RH6.0. It works well for me,
and my son, and my wife, and at the office...
Chris Campbell wrote:
>
> Man, I've had with this piece of crap. I've spent in excess of two
> weeks trying to get everything to work right. I was using 5.2 before
> and everything worked right, almost the first time. Now, well, it
> seems like all the major components are broken.
>
> SB16 PNP worked flawlessly under 5.2, and is broken by default in 6. I
> got it to work, only after pouring through several HOWTOs including
> one for a completely different model sound card.
>
> pppd,UserNet,kppp worked pretty much flawlessly under 5.2, now are
> broken beyond repair. This is the one that did it to me. I can't get
> pppd to connect to my ISP either under KDE using Kppp or under any
> other X WM using UserNet. Man, THIS one has me upset. I've scanned
> about 5 newsgroups continuously for the past two weeks, and have seen
> several fixes as reported, but none seem to work. I can't believe how
> many people are reporting problems...
>
> Scanner. My Mustek SCSI scanner worked flawlessly under 5.2, and I
> can't even turn it on in 6.
>
> whew, ranting feels good. Now I'm relaxed. Back to (good) old 5.2.
>
> Chris
> --
> Chris Campbell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://members.xoom.com/tech33/
> Tech33 on the IRC
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