Linux-Misc Digest #662, Volume #20 Wed, 16 Jun 99 16:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest
News (Paul D. Smith)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest
News (I R A Aggie)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest
News (I R A Aggie)
Snapshot ? (Philippe Gerard)
Re: ftp quickie (Romain Guilleret)
Re: what's the meaning of "date +10/12/98M%S" ? (Jan Vicherek)
Re: Best sound card for use w/ Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Testing for presence of files ("Giles Thompson")
mingetty restore (Christoph Krempe)
Re: Newbie: How to DE-install a program in Linux?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Any Mail Application for commercial use (David T. Blake)
Cdrom-module (Mikael Wetterman)
DOS command line replacement (Kaya Imre)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest
News ("Chad Mulligan")
Re: Testing for presence of files (Jon Skeet)
Re: KDE strange question. (Roberto Alsina)
Shared libs: DLL hell for Linux (Christopher Wong)
Re: Commercially speaking....? (Mark Evans)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest News
Linux RAID Reliability? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: _.-._PPP SETUP_.-._ (Donovan Rebbechi)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul D. Smith)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft
Retest News
Date: 16 Jun 1999 13:28:43 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
%% [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Carmen) writes:
tc> On Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:11:07 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark S. Bilk) wrote:
>>> If Microsoft wins, they must have cheated.
>>> If Linux wins, they didn't.
>> The tests would have to be repeated on hardware that is
>> known to have unmodified microcode, and with software and
>> configuration data that are also known not to have been
>> meddled with. The precautions to ensure this would have
>> to take into account the fact that executing any program
tc> I suspect that if Microsoft had any "magic software dust" that
tc> they could sprinkle around to improve performance, they would do
tc> it in their production code, which would improve sales, and not
tc> save it for a rainy day when they needed to annoy Linux users.
Well, the changes may be specifically designed to allow the system to
perform much better on that particular benchmark, but are useless at
best or very bad at worst for normal, day-to-day usage.
Compiler writers have a long and storied history of this kind of thing:
they like to write specific optimizations for well-known benchmarks so
their compilers look better in comparisons--but most benchmarks are
fairly poor at emulating real-life usage so these kinds of targeted
optimizations almost never result in any real code running faster.
Anyway, changing hardware microcode has nothing to do with the
performance of the OS: that gives a skewed result for the
benchmark... it's like running benchmarks on different hardware. The
comparison you want to make is between the operating systems themselves,
so everything else has to be as invariant as possible.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I R A Aggie)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft
Retest News
Date: 16 Jun 1999 18:10:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 16 Jun 1999 12:51:36 -0400, Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[about IE under Solaris]
+ - It doesn't have any features except the browser (no mail, no news
+ client, no editor, etc.)
You say that like it is a bad thing.
James
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I R A Aggie)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft
Retest News
Date: 16 Jun 1999 18:13:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:58:02 -0700, Chad Mulligan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, in
<RPP93.142$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
+ The server too busy is IE for timeout.
Then IE is broken if it returns a HTTP error code when it should be
transmitting a 'connection timed out' error.
James
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From: Philippe Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Snapshot ?
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:17:07 +0200
Hi,
I would like to take a snapshot from my screen under Linux, how Can I do
that?
Thanks
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From: Romain Guilleret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: ftp quickie
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:20:50 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andrew Hughes wrote:
> I have an ftp site using wu.ftpd (standard ftp deamon which is shipped
> with redhat) and would like to know how to allow users to access only
> their home directory (i.e. their home dirctory on the box is their root
> directory) when they ftp to the box.
>
> any ideas?
Use the guestgroup directive in /etc/ftpaccess
guestgroup groupname [groupname]
where groupname is a valid group in /etc/group will cause the ftp server
to chroot to the home directory of any user
of groupname ( man ftpaccess for more )
For this to work well, the home directory of your users should be
configured like an anonymous ftp directory ( man ftpd for more details )
If you don't make any change to their directories, they won't be able to
use ls
Hope this helps
Romain Guilleret
>
>
> Thanx in advance
>
> Andy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Vicherek)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.unix.misc,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.shell
Subject: Re: what's the meaning of "date +10/12/98M%S" ?
Date: 16 Jun 1999 18:04:16 GMT
Gary, I think you got it. Thanx a bunch.
Kurt, Tony, sorry I forgot to mention that I've
been a syadmin for 6 years, and have gone through
man pages for 7 different OS/releases to find
out the problem.
TTYL,
John
In article <7k42jt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Gary E. Ansok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <7k1ipg$bh5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I've been going lately through a lot of shell scripts written on
>>various Unix platforms, and several times I've seen a mysterious
>>date formatting string, like "+10/12/98M". I can't find anywhere
>>what's the meaning of this. On linux it prints out plainly
>> " 10/12/98M ", but from the context in the scripts it was obviously
>>intended to do something more. I think it could have been a System V
>>system (perhaps from AT&T) on which there scripts were running.
>>
>> Can anybody tell me what would be the meaning of this +10/12/98M
>>format ?
>
>Were these files ever stored under SCCS? SCCS will take its "keywords",
>which are of the form percent-uppercase letter-percent, and substitute
>in version or other configuration information.
>
>In your particular case, I suspect that the string was supposed to be
>"+%H%M", and SCCS replaced the "%H%" with the date the file was fetched
>from SCCS.
>
>Gary Ansok
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Best sound card for use w/ Linux?
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:02:17 GMT
In article <O5N93.6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Jeroen Verhoeven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree. creative labs cards are installed with hardly any efford
under
> linux.
I'll second that. One gotcha I've found: the configuration
script (make config) defaults the IRQ to 7, but I've seen
clone hardware (e.g. Aztech, CMI8330) that was on IRQ 5.
The SoundPro/CMI8330 IRQ mixup is probably a PnP issue on
my new (to me, at least :-) P233MMX motherboard. Your
mileage may vary.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:05:32 GMT
Latenar,
See reply at bottom
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Latenar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Gabriel/TSS!" wrote:
> >
> > While I work on AS/400's and lovethe system, I think this guy needs
his
> > head slapped around for a while! This guy obviously is part of M$'s
FUD
> > squad!
> >
> > =================================
> > editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks
> >
> > By Chris Amaru
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > MidrangeSystems
> > Monday, June 07, 1999
> [----8<-----8<------]
> >I believe that open source is exactly the reason why
> >you
> >shouldn�t use Linux. My argument is: With the source code to Linux
> >available to anyone who can download it from the Net, it is more
> >vulnerable
> >to hacker attacks, and this should scare the heck out of any IS
manager
> >running mission critical applications.
> [---->8----->8------]
> >
> > A chief example of this is the movement in the Linux community to
demand
> > refunds for the unused copy of Windows that is shipped with nearly
all
> > personal computers. They proclaimed February15th as Windows Refund
Day,
> > and
> > published the �Windows Refund Newsletter� to show people how to get
a
> > refund from Microsoft. On the 15th they went to Microsoft offices
all
> > over
> > the country with their disks and End User Licensing Agreement in
hand
> > and
> > demanded their refunds.
> >
> > When I bought my computer, HP included a bunch of software that I
never
> > use. Where is my refund for all of this software? Furthermore, I am
a
> > non-smoker and never use the ash tray in my BMW. I am pretty sure
that
> > BMW
> > would laugh me all the way back across the Atlantic if I showed up
in
> > Bavaria demanding my $39.95 and asking them to remove my ash tray.
> >
> > I would like to proclaim June 15th as Generic Refund Day. Please
feel
> > free
> > to visit all of your favorite corporations to demand refunds for the
> > extraneous stuff they give you that you don�t use. I will also be
> > starting
> > a Generic Refund newsletter ($15.00 + S&H; Sorry, no refunds!) to
tell
> > people how they can get refunds for all those useless things they
get
> > when
> > they buy other things.
> >
> > In closing, I think the Linux community should grow up. No amount of
> > whining and complaining is going to change the realities of life, so
I
> > will
> > just stick with the AS/400 and be happy. Maybe I�ll see some of you
at
> > Generic Refund Day when I demand I refund from Dell for that damn
> > useless Z
> > key I never use. Oops, I guess that refund is history now!
>
> BMW sells the ashtray as part of the car, and dell the key as part of
the
> keyboard. When Compaq sells a computer with windows95 isntalled, they
are
> /forcing/ you (supposedly) to not only use, but buy (for $80) a
non-compaq
> product. Moreover, to use windose, we must agree to the User End
License
> Agreement or wot-not. If we do not, it is /illegal/ to use it. So we
say we
> don't agree, we are not allowed to use the product, so they cannot
make us pay
> for it. Simple.
>
> As far as sekurity goes, in an open-source product you can /fix/ the
holes,
> rather than hope no-one notices it's there. Just my two cents.
> Latenar
>
> ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^
^^^
> ^^please forward to the jerk who wrote the article if you have his
email^^
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>
I purposely put his email address at the to of the article so others
could send him email about this. :^)
Regards,
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From: "Giles Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Testing for presence of files
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:48:33 +0100
Could anyone please help????
I have encountered a difference between how Sco Unix and Red Hat Linux 5.2
interprets metacharacters in script tests.
E.g.
if [ -f file*.txt ]
then
echo files present
fi
This works in Unix if there is more than one file matching the criteria, but
it doesn't in Linux. I get the error "Too many arguments".
Is there any way around this ??
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christoph Krempe)
Subject: mingetty restore
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:05:18 GMT
I've killed all my /sbin/mingetty-processes so that I have no more
console-logins. How can I restore them without reboot?
Gruss
Ch. Krempe
Universitaetsbibliothek der Christoph Krempe
Freien Universitaet Berlin Tel.: 030 / 838 4583
- Rechenzentrum - email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Garystrasse 39, 14195 Berlin URL: http://www.ub.fu-berlin.de/~ck
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Newbie: How to DE-install a program in Linux??
Date: 16 Jun 1999 15:37:05 GMT
In his obvious haste, [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled thusly:
: Hi there!
: Please tell me: what is the best way to DE-install a program. I'm using
: SuSE-Linux and I've used Slackware. Installing a program isn't hard,
: just untar and compile it (make install etc. - if it work). BUT I don't
: know what a program needs to exist and what I should remove if I wish to
: delete it.
If you installed it with make-install, chances are, the Makefile also
contains a rule for uninstall...
Try make-uninstall when you're in the directory you compiled it from.
: When I install a rpm-package it seems to be very easy to deinstall it.
: But what if I like to manually deinstall a programm or just a part of a
: rpm-package? Which libs and header-files should I remove? Is this a
: problem similar to the registry in Windows??
RPM keeps a track on dependencies. There are commands in the rpm program
that will tell you what programs depend on what libraries, and so on.
man rpm.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David T. Blake)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Any Mail Application for commercial use
Date: 16 Jun 1999 07:51:58 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>qmail works well commercially, and has fewer security holes.
Qmail is very nicely configurable with a single directory
containing text files to define the configuration.
I am not aware of any security holes - there was $10k offered and
uncollected for anyone to execute any operation on a machine running
qmail that they did not have permission to execute while logged in.
--
Dave Blake
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Mikael Wetterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cdrom-module
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:39:59 +0200
I've 'successfully' compiled 2.2.5 ( SuSE 6,1)
but I cant get my IDE Atapi Cdrom to work as a module.
I get lockups when I mount.
Compiled into kernel works perfect.
The drive was detected during boot after I added to modules.conf :
alias block-major-3 ide-probe=20
Am I missing something else here ?
Mikael Wetterman
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From: Kaya Imre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DOS command line replacement
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:32:57 +0000
Would someone please tell me how to implemet the DOS command
copy a + b > prn
in Linux
TIA
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From: "Chad Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft
Retest News
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:56:16 -0700
Donovan Rebbechi wrote in message ...
>On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:45:57 -0700, Chad Mulligan wrote:
>>
>
>>>With 1 caveot: Linux applications *are* Solaris applications.
>>>
>>
>>Are they now.. Hmm does IE for Solaris run on RH6.0? How about Oracle 8.0?
>>Sun Net Manager? WABI?
>
>WABI and Oracle run on linux ( though if you're buying oracle licenses, the
>cost of the solaris license is peanuts anyway ) IE ? who cares. THe Solaris
>version is a POS.
>
Couldn't be worse that Netscape.
>>>Scalability concerns stem from the fear of not being able to give your
>>>applications enough horsepower. If you develop open Linux solutions,
>>>you can always scale on up to any "big iron" UNIX you wish to.
>[snip]
>> Big Iron's days >are numbered.
>[snip]
>>26 as I recall, in eight redundant clusters, supported by redundant fast
>[snip]
>>And the best part, as far as joe public is concerned, it's a single entity.
>
>In otherwords, the scalability of the individual servers is not terribly
>important, as it's fairly easy to split a website between multiple machines
>in a way that is transparent to the visitors.
Funny concept that isn't it. I know customer service is a foreign idea to UNIX
admins but, hey, you get to write scripts all day,so what the hell.
>
>It's kind of funny that I didn't see you saying anything like this in the
>Mindcraft threads (-;
>
Different discusions require different data. A point of fact though, I believe I
did make some comment on the distributed computing model. But that may have been
another time. In any case, the "High End" server from the Mindcraft tests seems to
be exactly this low end cluster you've been claiming to have someware. MS has it in
production, where's yours?
>cheers,
>
>--
>Donovan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: Testing for presence of files
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:54:15 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Could anyone please help????
>
> I have encountered a difference between how Sco Unix and Red Hat Linux 5.2
> interprets metacharacters in script tests.
>
> E.g.
>
> if [ -f file*.txt ]
> then
> echo files present
> fi
>
> This works in Unix if there is more than one file matching the criteria, but
> it doesn't in Linux. I get the error "Too many arguments".
>
> Is there any way around this ??
At a guess, the shell is expanding file*.txt inline. Try using something
like find instead. An example is:
if [ "`find . -maxdepth ` -name 'file*.txt'`" != "" ]
then
echo files present
fi
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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE strange question.
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:47:46 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> The news reader(KRM 0.4.8) that came with KDE desktop was working
> okay
> for a couple days, but now it will disappear after fetching new
> articles from news server.
>
> Any remedy for this strange behavior?
Only a rather drastic one:
Make a backup of ~/.kde/share/apps/krn and then remove it.
This will have the side effect of forgetting your newsgroups and
subscribed list, but you can recover it from the backup (which file it
is is rather obvious).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Wong)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Shared libs: DLL hell for Linux
Date: 15 Jun 1999 15:49:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I would like to hear some advice (and perhaps a pointer to a URL, if
any) on handling shared library versioning in Linux. Each new Linux
distribution brings with it another set of upgraded shared
libraries. Far too many times, I download an RPM only to be told of
failed dependencies due to my not having the very latest shared
libraries. Is this the curse of a Linux user: forced frequent upgrades?
Perhaps somebody could point me to a howto or primer on shared libraries
under Linux. Looking under /usr/lib, I see (for example), a
libglib.so.1.0.4, a libglib.so.1.0.6, and a link to
libglib.so. Obviously, there can only be one libglib.so, so is there a
purpose to having multiple versions of the library around?
Perhaps my main concern is in commercial applications: imagine a vendor
sending binary distributions to customers. A vendor may not be able to
ask customers to all upgrade their Linux distributions in lockstep. Yet,
that vendor may be developing on a relatively up-to-date set of
libraries. Does the only viable solution consist of shipping statically
linked executables?
--
Chris
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From: Mark Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:25:12 +0100
Stuart Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jun 1999, mlw wrote:
>>XFree86 does not need to multitask programs because it run on operating
>>systems that naturally have this capability.
> My point exactly - Microsoft should have put multitasking (and a lot of
> the other things that windows does) in DOS, instead of in Windows.
DOS was part way there, indeed some non MS versions of DOS
were multi-tasking. And for that matter Concurrent CP/M was
also multi-tasking...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:04:55 -0700
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:08:33 +0200, Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It was the 15 Jun 1999 17:44:20 GMT...
>...and Aaron M. Renn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:46:26 +0200, Richard Hickling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>> >This is what it always comes down to: entrenched immovable laws. Some aspects of
>> >the US legislative system are now out-of-date and have fallen behind more
>> >progressive and versatile systems overseas. Time for a spring cleaning.
>>
>> It's a good thing the US has entrenched and immovable laws about freedom.
>>
>> Given Europe's abysmal track record for the last 1500 years (including
>> the present century) I don't think that the Europeans are in any position
>> to be lecturing the US about the way governments ought to behave.
>
>Heh. Your track record is just barely over 200 years, you started out
>as Puritans and idealists, you had no reason whatsoever to wreak havoc
That would be 350 years ago, not 200. What's that about myopia.
>and look what you've managed to screw up in spite of all that.
>
>Entrenched and immovable laws about freedom my ass. It's the same
Some things SHOULD be immovable.
>problem all over the planet, you've got no halo over your collective
>heads or something.
We're not the ones spouting righteous indignation about
our nation being more 'orderly' because we treat the
general population as if they cannot be trusted.
This kind of situation rather supports our quaint notions
regarding liberty and immovable laws.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft
Retest News
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:04:42 -0700
On Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:56:16 -0700, Chad Mulligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Donovan Rebbechi wrote in message ...
>>On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:45:57 -0700, Chad Mulligan wrote:
[deletia]
>>In otherwords, the scalability of the individual servers is not terribly
>>important, as it's fairly easy to split a website between multiple machines
>>in a way that is transparent to the visitors.
>
>Funny concept that isn't it. I know customer service is a foreign idea to UNIX
>admins but, hey, you get to write scripts all day,so what the hell.
If the service is not available then no customer servicing
can go on. Bell Labs engineers love to hark upon this point.
That they do works rather in your favor.
[deletia]
Mind you, Linux webserver clustering was one of the first things
that was brought up HERE when this Mindcraft BS first broke.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux RAID Reliability?
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:00:26 GMT
Ok, I'm sorry if this is a FAQ, but I don't have a lot of time
for research on this one...
I am a network administrator in a coporate environment and our
department's linux enthusiast. I like linux and use it for everything
I can. However, I was just tasked with setting up a 30Gb+ file server
and I really need reliable/cheap solutions. I plan on setting up a
new Dell workstation with 2 15Gb IDE drives and then using the kernel's
md driver to make one 30Gb volume. This volume will be then shared
over the network via Samba and/or NFS. The installation *could* be
based on any of the standard Linux distributions, but I have a personal
preference for SuSE 6.1.
Could some of you with experience with this sort of configuration
give me some pointers about reliability of this kind of setup. Also,
what size of memory would you recommend for this type of
configuration -- is 128Mb enough(this machine will be feeding 6
clients at 100Mb/s at first and may scale upward to 50 or so as
time goes on). Any potential pitfalls you can point out would also
be helpful. Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: _.-._PPP SETUP_.-._
Date: 16 Jun 1999 16:14:22 GMT
On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:53:44 +0930, Klea Dzonsons wrote:
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>Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>When Im using KPPP, it will dial and then give the error message "pppd died
>unexpectantly"
>When using minicom it will connect for a few seconds and then give the error
>message
>"NO CARRIER" and hang up
Try using kppp, with the terminal based authentication ( so you can see
what's going on )
Make sure pppd is suid, and that /etc/ppp/options is empty.
--
Donovan
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