Linux-Misc Digest #662, Volume #25 Sun, 3 Sep 00 22:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Is delphi5 good for linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Microsoft Linux ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Installing Mandrake on top of Caldera ? (Lyndon)
Re: Question about "%F" (Christopher Browne)
Re: ncurses, /usr/share/terminfo v /usr/lib/terminfo (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: so what do I do with my spare CPU cycles? ("Peter Enzerink")
Re: Question about "%F" ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Partitions ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Lilo broken??? ("Ez-Aton")
Re: Bas 0.5 - BASIC interpreter ("Doug Rickard")
How are modules loaded and used? (mike)
How are Icons associated with programs on Desktop (mike)
Re: How are modules loaded and used? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Netscape HDD accessing (Grega Bremec)
Re: Microsoft Linux ("Gareth Williams")
Re: Microsoft Linux ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: so what do I do with my spare CPU cycles? ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: How are Icons associated with programs on Desktop (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Way to launch Nutscrape to NOT drag other processes? (Andrew Purugganan)
newgrp ("Shahriar Mohktari")
Please contribute. Null modem serial connection Windows/Linux ("Arctic Storm")
Re: Way to launch Nutscrape to NOT drag other processes? ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Is delphi5 good for linux?
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 22:02:02 GMT
www.vbforlinux.com/delphi say their delphi5 can program linux like VB.
is it good?
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft Linux
Date: 3 Sep 2000 22:12:40 GMT
Yura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Thanks, we won't! :)
We won't what?
Peter
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From: Lyndon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Installing Mandrake on top of Caldera ?
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 15:18:38 -0700
You can do this if you have an empty (unused, extra) partition in your
HD. Just install Caldera into that empty partition. Otherwise, I havn't
experienced installing two Linux flavors one on top of another. All I've
done is install one version beside another (physically side by side
occupying different partitions on the HD).
Hope this helps.
Have a nice day.
Martin Racette wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I would like to know if it is possible to install Mandrake 7.1 without
> erasing Caldera, I mean replacing the OS but not losing all the
> information was already written to disk
>
> I don't have any possiblity to move my /home directory to any other
> part of the disk(s)
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> Merci a l'avance
>
> Martin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Question about "%F"
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 22:24:03 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Yura would say:
> Hi!
>Almost alway I configure MIME types, I add "application %f" and it works.
>
>My question is - what does %f really means?
>And where can I get some more info about this trigers.
>It's really interesting for me. I wanna get into the "guts" :)
Probably this indicates that the application info gets transformed
into the command by replacing %f with the filename.
Thus, if whatever application decoded the application component
generated the file /tmp/mm.thisfile
And you defined "/usr/X11R6/bin/xv %f",
It'll generate the command
/usr/X11R6/bin/xv /tmp/mm.thisfile
The reason for this to be particularly useful is if there is a need
to submit other options, such as with:
/usr/bin/X11R6/bin/xv -filename %f
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if (argc > 1 && strcmp(argv[1], "-advice") == 0) {
printf("Don't Panic!\n");
exit(42);
}
(Arnold Robbins in the LJ of February '95, describing RCS)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: ncurses, /usr/share/terminfo v /usr/lib/terminfo
Date: 3 Sep 2000 22:25:54 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Key wrote:
>In article <8os8bb$puv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Well what you are requesting is a patch for the problem.
>
>I suppose what I am really saying is that given the distribution vendors
>(such as RedHat) can't agree with each other (or even themselves), if the
>problem we solved in the actual ncurses source (at source), we wouldn't have
>to rely on the the distributions people.
>
> slackware 3.4 /usr/lib/terminfo
> redhat 6.1 /usr/share/terminfo
> redhat 6.2 /usr/lib/terminfo !
>
>Sure, I can symlink, or set $TERMINFO, but thats just too much for some users.
[-]
See the FHS - /usr/share/terminfo seems to be quite right and fine. It
is not the software's problem if they don't get it right. People pay them
to do they job, so let them deliver.
Setting TERMINFO in /etc/profile is not much of a problem either and IMHO
if the one in charge of the machine has a problem with that he/she/it ought
not to be in charge.
Cheers,
Juergen
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From: "Peter Enzerink" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.society.futures,sci.astro.amateur
Subject: Re: so what do I do with my spare CPU cycles?
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:28:15 +1100
> In Windows, it can run in screensaver-only
> mode or in always-running mode. In the latter mode, I notice a definite
> and severe slowdown of the system.
Then there is something wrong with your system resource wise as the
SETI@home thread has a lower priority than normal threads, so it goes
dormant when anything else of higher priority is happening. If your machine
has low memory however, you may be seeing some lag due to swapping.
Cheers
~~~
Peter Enzerink
email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www http://enzerink.net/peter/astronomy/
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question about "%F"
Date: 3 Sep 2000 22:23:50 GMT
Yura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Almost alway I configure MIME types, I add "application %f" and it works.
: My question is - what does %f really means?
: And where can I get some more info about this trigers.
Read netscape's help on mime types. Alternatively, you could check up
on the governing RFCs.
(a blind deaf and dumb person would guess that %f stood for filename -
now if only I could remember what %s and %u stood for :-).
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.help
Subject: Re: Partitions
Date: 3 Sep 2000 22:20:34 GMT
Dux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
:> Dux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
:> :> Dux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> :> : couldn't set up Lilo boot or something. The problems I have are
:> Here is the result of a search on my disk:
:>
:> barney:/usr/oboe/ptb/lang/c/nbd/nbd-2.4.10% locate Partition
:> /usr/doc/Linux-mini-HOWTOs/Partition
:> /usr/doc/Linux-mini-HOWTOs/Partition-Rescue
:> barney:/usr/oboe/ptb/lang/c/nbd/nbd-2.4.10%
:>
:> and as you can see, they are installed under /usr/doc/*HOWTO*/ on my
:> disk. I don't know where you've put your copy, but it might well be
:> nearby. In general, if you don't know where something is, you should
:> search for it as above. If it isn't on your disk, search on the net, or
:> on your cd, or in other obvious places. The FAQ for this newsgroup
:> strikes me as good reading too! And as a random guess, I just looked up
:> www.linuxdoc.org on the net, and hit the howtos there too:
:>
:> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Partition-1.html
: What I mean is I can't find the file, are you sure it exists. The URL you sent
: me gave me a dead link.
I didn't send you anything. As to your not being able to find the file, I
can't help you with that, until you state what is the command you
are using, and quote the result of the serach. I gave you a full transcript
of what I did. What happens when you do it?
To find the url, I did "lynx http://www.linuxdoc.org/". I leave the
rest as an exercise to you (hint: drop the final component of the URL
and look at the directory above ...). I KNOW you're capable of using
your wits ...
Peter
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From: "Ez-Aton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Lilo broken???
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 01:39:49 +0200
Also doing 'fdisk /mbr' from dos.
Ez.
"Lyndon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Reinstalling Windows will get rid of that "li"
>
> JoAnn Elliott wrote:
> >
> > I was reading the new group.
> > What program is this? I had installed linux on my laptop and then
decided to
> > restore my laptop from CD and now the lilo get to just up to the
> > line...."li..." and I removed the whold linux off and now was trying to
> > reinstall windows. Even did a fdisk and reformat and still the partial
lilo
> > on reboot. I need to restore the MBR and get that thing off, please help
me
> > as I have worked several hours on this project already.
> >
> > please respond to me personally as well as the group.
> >
> > JoAnn Elliott
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Doug Rickard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bas 0.5 - BASIC interpreter
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:28:09 +1000
Michael,
I have downloaded a copy to look at but until I get a chance to do that I
have one question - are line numbers mandatory on ALL lines, or does it use
the QBASIC approach that line number are only needed for labels, etc?
Doug.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
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>
> Bas is an interpreter for the programming language BASIC, written in
> ANSI C for UNIX systems. It is meant to be compatible to typical BASIC
> interpreters of the 1980s, thus providing a "standard" BASIC. For that
> reason, the syntax of the language has not been changed, unlike many other
> UNIX BASIC interpreters. Although staying compatible, it incorporates
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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How are modules loaded and used?
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 19:31:37 -0400
Hi,
I would like to have a detailed understanding of how modules are
Loaded
in Linux. When a distribution is compiled, you get lots of modules. And
there
is a file called modules.dep and a program depmod. and it seems all the
modules reside in /lib/modules. How do they work?
Are the modules all loaded at once. What determines what and which
modules
are loaded? It is said if one needs to load a specific module
automatically,one
should put it in the rc.local file. What about all the other modules
that
the system needs to run? What loads them? If I have a piece of hardware,
say a cdrom and I change it for another type and brand, does the system
know to use another driver? Or, do all the cdrom drivers check the
cdrom
to see which one should be loaded? Etc..
Thanks
Mike
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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How are Icons associated with programs on Desktop
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 19:37:18 -0400
Hi,
I created a "shortcut" for Netscape on my KDE desktop and I had to
choose
an icon from a window full of icons. There was no Netscape icon there
so I chose one that I thought would suit it. How do I get the "real"
Netscape
icon to be displayed as my desktop short cut? Where to the icons reside
and
how are they associated with programs? Is there a graphics program
where I can create my own icons?
Thanks
Mike
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How are modules loaded and used?
Date: 3 Sep 2000 23:43:11 GMT
mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I would like to have a detailed understanding of how modules are
: Loaded in Linux.
So read the Modules-HOWTO (or just man depmod, kerneld, kmod, and
friends).
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grega Bremec)
Subject: Re: Netscape HDD accessing
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 23:50:19 GMT
...and [EMAIL PROTECTED] used the keyboard:
>Whenever I use Netscape in Windowmaker, after about half an hour
>Windowmaker becomes unusable because the system gets clogged up with
>HDD accessing, and I can't do anything but kill the X Server. What's
>going on? Neither Lynx nor kfm have the same problem, and the
>HDD activity goes back to normal after I kill X.
>I'm running a P333 with 32MB ram, and using Netscape 4.61.
I bet it's the swapping. Consider purchasing more RAM, using a
different browser, or having to kill and restart netscape on regular
intervals (i.e. before the swapping starts).
On my system (PII-300/256M), a typical netscape 4.73 process that's
been running for about two hours is eating up some 30Megs of memory.
Add to that about 20-40Megs that X takes up (depending on your
display's settings and the video driver you use), the memory that
WindowMaker utilizes (shouldn't be much, but it surely exceeds 2Megs),
and you'll soon find out that a swap file of 64MB is the very bottom
if you intend on running some other programs besides just these.
Cheers,
--
Grega Bremec
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.gbsoft.org/
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From: "Gareth Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft Linux
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 01:07:43 +0000
"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake unto the multitude, saying:
> Yura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Thanks, we won't! :)
>
> We won't what?
I think the original posting said "Get this..." (spoof M$ version of Linux)
Ergo: Yura says "... we won't"
--
All the best, GH Williams.
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft Linux
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 19:06:15 -0500
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Nelson Pulgar quoth:
~~ Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 13:37:17 -0400
~~ From: Nelson Pulgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Subject: Microsoft Linux
~~
~~ Check this!!!!
~~ www.mslinux.org
~~
ROTFLMAO.
The sad thing is, someone will think this is real, then in a couple
of weeks this NG will be flooded with "Where do I get MS Linux?"
questions. The reason I say that is because the site LOOKS like
the MS site.
anm
--
Andrew N. McGuire
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
perl -le'print map?"(.*)"?&&($_=$1)&&s](\w+)]\u$1]g&&$_=>`perldoc -qj`'
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Crossposted-To: comp.society.futures,sci.astro.amateur
From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: so what do I do with my spare CPU cycles?
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 19:13:26 -0500
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Dan Jacobson quoth:
~~ Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:59:34 +0800
~~ From: Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc, comp.society.futures, sci.astro.amateur
~~ Subject: so what do I do with my spare CPU cycles?
~~
~~ So what can I do with my extra CPU cycles? Any 'extra cycles for peace'
~~ to
~~ donate to [but I am not on-line all day]? When my 166Mhz computer is
[ snip ]
~~ Hmmm, wait, I'm timidly into GPS and astronomy, perhaps I could have it
~~ compile an immediate version of a sky chart for my personal area, which
~~ would be too slow real-time..?
~~
~~ Or maybe it's OK to not be computing everything, all the time.
Sounds like SETI@home is just the thing for you.
( Burns up lots of CPU cycles )
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu
anm
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Andrew N. McGuire
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Subject: Re: How are Icons associated with programs on Desktop
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 00:20:01 GMT
mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
> I created a "shortcut" for Netscape on my KDE desktop and I had to
> choose
> an icon from a window full of icons. There was no Netscape icon there
> so I chose one that I thought would suit it. How do I get the "real"
> Netscape
> icon to be displayed as my desktop short cut? Where to the icons reside
> and
> how are they associated with programs? Is there a graphics program
> where I can create my own icons?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
Icons are stored in /usr/share/icons (or $KDEDIR/share/icons in
general) on a system-wide basis and ~/.kde/share/icons for each
user. You associate an icon to a program by right clicking the
properties and under the execute tab, selecting the appropriate icon.
To create your own icons, use the KDE icon editor or somthing more
general like Gimp. You will need to save it in .xpm format.
--
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Way to launch Nutscrape to NOT drag other processes?
Date: 4 Sep 2000 01:08:16 GMT
I have the mp3 player going (xmms) and when Netscape goes to a link-heavy
site I start hearing xmms falter, slow down, and so on because NS likes
to gobble up CPU cycles. Is there any way to launch it in X without
letting it hurt my multimedia experience ;-) This is one reason I haven't
moved to 4.7 because I'm afraid it just keeps getting voracious in
appetite.
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??
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From: "Shahriar Mohktari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: newgrp
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:24:47 -0400
Hi there,
I am running redhat6.2. I have some problems with newgrp. I let a group say
groupa have password. if user1 does not belong to this group and gives the
command "newgrp groupa" he will be asked for the password. Then when user1
enters password he gets the messgae "permission denied".
What is the problem? any idea?
Shahriar Mokhtari
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From: "Arctic Storm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Please contribute. Null modem serial connection Windows/Linux
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 01:36:53 GMT
I am unable to find a "how to" on establishing a null modem serial
connection between a Win98SE/Win2K computer and a Linux computer.
There have been many posts confirming such connection, but no "step-by-step"
instructions on how to accomplish it.
I depleted the web search engines without success.
I search the "Linux Documentation Project" web site (the authority on Linux
information) without success.
Would someone please contribute to the Linux community by creating a web
page with a *detailed* step-by-step instructions on establishing a null
modem serial connection between a Win98SE/Win2K computer and a Linux
computer. And perhaps add to the Linux Documentation Project.
Thank you.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please remove the "-SpamShield-" to send me email. Thanks.
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Way to launch Nutscrape to NOT drag other processes?
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 20:56:03 -0500
On 4 Sep 2000, Andrew Purugganan quoth:
~~ Date: 4 Sep 2000 01:08:16 GMT
~~ From: Andrew Purugganan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Subject: Way to launch Nutscrape to NOT drag other processes?
~~
~~ I have the mp3 player going (xmms) and when Netscape goes to a link-heavy
~~ site I start hearing xmms falter, slow down, and so on because NS likes
~~ to gobble up CPU cycles. Is there any way to launch it in X without
~~ letting it hurt my multimedia experience ;-) This is one reason I haven't
~~ moved to 4.7 because I'm afraid it just keeps getting voracious in
~~ appetite.
man nice
man renice
anm
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Andrew N. McGuire
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