Linux-Misc Digest #662, Volume #21 Fri, 3 Sep 99 19:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: any RAMDISK programs out there? (William Burrow)
Re: Netscape font rendition: Linux vs Windows (Grant Edwards)
Re: Distributions RH, Suse, Mandrake (Ben Belchak)
Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (John Halpenny)
Re: Is MS *.asf format supported? ("Charles Sullivan")
Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Froilan P Montenegro)
Re: The Microsoft/Linux Conspiracy (Pieter Wenk)
Re: new to linux (Pieter Wenk)
Re: dual boot win 98 (Pieter Wenk)
Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Guy Macon)
Real Player won't work under 2.2.x kernels ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Running a program on a SGI from a PC with LINUX system (Assad Khan)
Re: Lynx History? (William Burrow)
Re: mem change = kernel panic. (Chris Salin)
Re: World Linux Day -- 17 September (Phillip Lord)
Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Walter Francis)
Re: Kernel will not boot. ("jo.Oswald")
amount of modems in linux... ("Ruairi")
Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Rennie Allen)
Re: bypassing fsck (Alan J. Wylie)
Grep with Paragraph option (Eric Tanhehco Chua)
Re: Running a program on a SGI from a PC with LINUX system (Timothy J. Lee)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: any RAMDISK programs out there?
Date: 3 Sep 1999 20:47:11 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 19:23:00 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Does someone know of any programs that set up a ramdisk (i.e. portion of
>the memory that is accessed like a filesystem)? Preferably, the program
>should take care of copying some files of my choice to the ramdisk when
>it starts and move them back to hard disk before the computer shuts
>down. (Of course, this could also be done with a separate script.)
>Ideally, it would also have compression (such ramdisks existed in the
>days of computers that ran from floppy), but that is not necessary, I
>have plenty of spare RAM.
The Linux Router distro does this. It does this for a reason. You
haven't mentioned why you'd want to do this, but there are a few
different reasons. Would any of them be why you want to do it? No one
here can tell....
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: grant@nowhere. (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Netscape font rendition: Linux vs Windows
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 19:43:17 GMT
In article <7qp0rj$olm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark P. Nelson wrote:
>1. Don't use <font size=>. Use the relative tags <big> and <small>,
> and throw away your first page completely.
> Read this page: http://www.mcsr.olemiss.edu/~mudws/font.html
>
>2. Don't make the whole thing rely on javascript for navigation. I
> don't want my hard disk erased, or my screen filled up with advertising,
> so I turn it off and leave it off. onClick="window.close(I'm outa here.)"
Bravo!
Don't make navigation rely on graphics (image maps) either. I
usually use lynx, and have graphics turned off (in netscape) by
default. I realize if presenting graphics is the whole point
of the page, then it needs some graphics -- and when I get to
the page I want, I'll look at graphics. Just don't require them
for navigation.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! I like the way ONLY
at their mouths move... They
visi.com look like DYING OYSTERS
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Belchak)
Subject: Re: Distributions RH, Suse, Mandrake
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 18:59:44 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I was looking over the various distributions available at the
> computer store and noticed Mandrake, which appears to be RH 6.0
> plus some extra stuff, for less than half the price of RH 6.0.
> What's the catch?
>
> I had RH 5.2 on my old HDD and would like to get Linux back and
> running, but I can't see forking over almost $80 for RH 6.2. I
> could just reinstall 5.2, but would like the newer kernel and
> Gnome.
>
> It appears that Red Hat's rpm is more standardized than
> Suse's packager, which would make getting new software easier
> than with Suse. Are there any problems with, say, installing
> Suse 6.2 over RH 5.2? What are the pro's and con's of Suse
> vs. RH?
> --
> Eric Goforth | Senior Applications Programmer | SimTek, Inc.
>
> If you'd like to respond via e-mail remove the what's between ew and
> goforth in my return address to get my real e-mail address.
Well, the beauty of Linux is the fact that if you want upgrades, they're all
free...What you can do is install RedHat 5.2 or whatever version you have right now
and download the newer kernels and any packages that you'd like to update...
There isn't much difference between the distributions except for newer versions of
popular software modules and kernel revs. I would suggest saving your money and
spending a little more time upgrading your packages...
--
Ben Belchak
iEngineer.com
I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture
us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.
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From: John Halpenny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 21:00:02 -0400
Linus Torvalds wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Birch <nospam> wrote:
> >
> >QNX does a number of things right that Linux does flat wrong (true
> >_uncrashable_ (almost) micro kernel, real time performance etc)
>
> Ehhh..
>
> Sure, teh QNX microkernel is pretty uncrashable. But have you ever asked
> yourself why? Maybe because it doesn't do all that much.
> Put it in a general-purpose system, do some real work with it, open it
> up to people who aren't polite, and see what happens. Not many people
> care that the microkernel hasn't crashed when everything else has.
That's the point. Because of QNX architecture, it doesn't have to do all that
much.You don't have to 'open it up' to do real work.
>
>
> >I'm sure you're right, the problem for QNX is that few people know how
> >good it is because it is so expensive (aimed at a different market).
>
> It's good for that market. But think about that _really_ means for a
> moment. Don't make the mistake of extrapolating goodness in a very
> specialized market into goodness a more real-life and much less
> constrained market.
>
>
> Linus
>
> There will always be a market for a general system that does almost
> everything. There is also a
> market for multimedia, games and set-top boxes that can do a few things
> well. With computer
> prices declining, there are more products sold for specific tasks, and these
> will not need a lot of
> software - just good software.
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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is MS *.asf format supported?
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:23:15 -0400
Richard Steiner wrote in message ...
>Here in comp.os.linux.misc, Errin Watusikac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>spake unto us, saying:
>
>>Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> Beat Rupp wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I have a decent movie in asf format here and unfortulately it only
>>> > works with windows netshow player. Any suggestions to get that running
>>> > in Linux?
>>>
>>> ASF is a proprietary Microsoft format. Until somebody reverse
>>> engineers it you're not going to get support under Linux.
>>
>>ASF is NOT proprietary; NO file format is proprietary.
>
>Who here remembers the fight between Phil Katz and SEA over the .ARC
>archive file format? :-)
>
>Wasn't the main reason for that conflict the fact that PKARC was capable
>of handling the ARC format?
>
>Or am I misremembering?
My recollection is that the fight was over Katz's use of the name
"ARC", in both the program name and as a file extension. SEA
considered that a trademark.
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From: Froilan P Montenegro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.os.qnx
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:42:23 -0400
comp.sys.amiga.misc: 3-Sep-99 Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and R.. by John
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> QNX does a number of things right that Linux does flat wrong (true
> _uncrashable_ (almost) micro kernel, real time performance etc)
Actually, take a look (if you haven't already) at the Ballista project
at Carnegie Mellon
('http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/edrc-ballista/www/') in which QNX
was found to be the least robust amongst several major POSIX compliant
OS's (including Linux). An interesting response by QNX is also posted
there.
- Froilan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pieter Wenk)
Subject: Re: The Microsoft/Linux Conspiracy
Date: 3 Sep 1999 20:38:41 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jon Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> The way to change that is to change people's expectations. And Linux is
> helping to do that, I think.
I guess it does, provided the developers are starting to listen on the
user's wishes. Not only freaks, but all the new users switching from M$
Windows to Linux.
In particular, they have to take care, that the configuration work, is
getting by far more easier ie. config. printers, ZIP-Drive etc.
Regards
--
/ / (_)____ __ ____ __
Pieter Wenk / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / Vevey/Switzerland
/____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pieter Wenk)
Subject: Re: new to linux
Date: 3 Sep 1999 21:02:46 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
AngryMob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
>
>> Hi, I am really new to linux, so I want to obtain more info. My system
>> now is pentium II with two partition. One partition is 2.0 gig for
>> win95 and MSDOS, the other partition 1.0 gig for winNT. Both partitions
>> are FAT. Where can I download linux and what version should I use
>> because there are many different linux to me? Is it hard to install
>> linux? I really appreciate your help.
>
> if you had two children, and you had to decide on which one gets to live,
> who would you chose.... well to apply that to your current problem, say good
> bye to either one of your win 95 or win nt partitions... good luck... =)
>
Yeap, and I would suggest in addition to buy a second HD to install Linux.
Now LILO will certainly be able to launch Win 95 or Linux, but if this
is working also with NT I do not know.
And "DownloadW Linux.....please, buy the CD's...
Regards
.
/ / (_)____ __ ____ __
Pieter Wenk / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / Vevey/Switzerland
/____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pieter Wenk)
Subject: Re: dual boot win 98
Date: 3 Sep 1999 20:54:30 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>
> Lilo will boot Linux, but it will not, to the best of my knowledge, give
> you the option of booting to Linux, Windows, OR some other OS at boot time.
Perhaps I do miss something. Are you claiming,that LILO is unable to give
the choice booting either Windows or Linux ? LILO is a bootmanager, and
allows multi-booting.
I have absolute no problem in booting either to Win or Linux with LILO.
Regards
--
/ / (_)____ __ ____ __
Pieter Wenk / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / Vevey/Switzerland
/____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Guy Macon)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: 02 Sep 1999 10:10:42 PDT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Green) wrote:
>> Why to lose advantages of realtime OS, as QNX is? We Amigans are pissed of
>> by Linux enough. It's as multimedia friendly as Win3.1 is, so judge for
>> yourself. Linux is just big hype of last years, no technicla revolution, so
>> who cares ...
>
>One might wonder why you would be in a Linux newsgroup if that is your opinion.
>While I'm sure your point is valid, in your opinion, why intice flamers??????
On the face of it, the choice of newsgroups seems right. The Amiga
subsiderary of Gateway announced that they would use the QNX kernel,
then changed to the Linux Kernel, then fired the fellow who made the
decision. This is of interest to comp.os.qnx, comp.sys.amiga.misc,
and comp.os.linux.misc readers.
The language is indeed inflamatory and the charges are pretty much
untrue. Just big hype? No technical revolution? Maybe in Bill Gate's
dreams... Even the comment about multimedia friendliness is flawed.
Amiga isn't talking about using Linux or QNX. They are talking about
using the Linux or QNX kernel and writing an Amiga Style OS around it.
Multimedia capabilities are in the main OS, not just in the kernel.
If you are willing to make a complete break from the past (which is
not what Linux is about, and one reason Linux is strong and NextStep
is dead), then the QNX kernel is (in my opinion) technically superior.
This is, of course, relative; the Linux kernel is really really good.
I still have great hopes for Amiga. If they start with the QNX kernel
and write an OS on top of it that is at least as good as the original
Amiga had, with the ability to dual boot and run Linux or Microsquish,
they can capture a niche market and have 0.1% to 1% of the PC market,
with a slim chance of doing much better. That's enough to make a nice
profitable division of Gateway.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Real Player won't work under 2.2.x kernels
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 21:21:18 GMT
Hi,
I have found that the real media player won't work right under the sound
driver included with the 2.2.x kernels. Less than one second of sound
will play and then a general error message will pop up.
Has anyone else had this problem? If so, were you able to solve it?
Thanks,
James
========
to respond by email please remove the number three from my address
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From: Assad Khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running a program on a SGI from a PC with LINUX system
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 17:36:58 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
type 'man telnet' without the quotes
You can telnet to ANY machine from ANY machine using telnet.
Sylvain Haudegond wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> Do anyone know if it's possible to run a program on a Silicon Graphics
> (Indigo XS24/R4000 with Irix5.3) from a PC with Linux 6.0. Does the rlogin
> command work for this ? Are these two systems "compatible" ?
> TIA
>
> Sylvain
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: Lynx History?
Date: 3 Sep 1999 20:53:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 04:36:52 GMT,
Ken Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Does lynx have a history or cache like Netscape? If so where is it?
Press ? (the question mark key) for much useful info about Lynx,
including how to find out what the keys are for accessing the cache.
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: Chris Salin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.config
Subject: Re: mem change = kernel panic.
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 16:11:07 -0500
Whenever you change lilo.conf, you need to run lilo (just type it). This
will update with what is in the config file. If you can't even get to a
prompt, boot up with your rescue disk, then make the change, run lilo,
reboot.
Chris Salin
HellNo wrote:
> Hi linux users!
>
> Well, I thought I was getting to grips with Linux until now. I'm unning
> RH5.2 (2.2.5) on a PII
>
> I had to downgrade the machine from 192 MB of RAM to 128 MB, so I hanged
> the reference to the amount of mem in Lilo.conf to 128 MB, saved it and
> ran lilo to validate the changes. I shut the box down, rebooted and
> this is what I get:
>
> ---cut---
> Memory: 0K/0K available (0K kernel code, 0K
> reserved, 0K data, 0K init) Unable to handle Kernel NULL pointer
> dereference at virtual address 00000000
>
> ...
>
> Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!
> In swapper task - not syncing.
> ---cut---
>
> If anyone has a clue on what I did wrong, let me know. Adding the 64 MB
> back is not a solution. ;)
>
> Thanks a lot
> Ed.
> PS: The kernel isn't new enough for me not to have to declare amounts of
> RAM higher than 64 MB in lilo.conf
>
> --
> HellNo
> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ICQ: 21535717
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Phillip Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: World Linux Day -- 17 September
Date: 03 Sep 1999 22:54:17 +0100
>>>>> "Phil" == Phil Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Phil> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Phil> [EMAIL PROTECTED] "mlw" writes:
>> I am in the Massachusetts south shore area. Just a few miles
>> south of Boston, off Rt-3. Anyone planning something, just e-mail
>> me and I am willing use my web services to aid the cause.
>>
>> BTW: If you are a non-linux user, but would like to be one, and
>> you are in my area. Drop me an e-mail and maybe I can make a copy
>> of RedHat 6.0, Mandrake 6.0 (my current favorite), SuSE, Caldera,
>> or Debian.
Phil> That's a good idea. Does anyone in the London area want a copy
Phil> of Red Hat 5.2, complete with manual?
Quite possibly...
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From: Walter Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 14:10:37 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Jeffrey C. Dege" wrote:
> _Every_ Amiga user I knew in the old days moved to Linux years back.
> A few of them still use the Amiga as well. Most have abandoned it.
Gotta jump on here, I did the same.. :) I was given a PC and used Win98
for about 2.5 months, and absolutely hated it. Started with RedHat 5.2,
now have 6.0 and love it.
> Personally, I bought my Amiga 1000 in 1987, my Linux box in 1994, and
> sold my Amiga 2500 in 1998.
500 in 1988, 2000 is 1991, and that same 2000 is still running today,
along side my Linux box. The poor 1084 monitor died last year though..
Not to say the 2000 is in perfect health, it has trouble rebooting, but
I've decided it's probably a bad ram chip on the motherboard which I'll
replace some day.
> We're all still rather fond of the Amiga, and rather nostalgic about it.
> There are a number of things about the Amiga that I really wish would
> make it into the mainstream.
I love my Amiga, and I'd really like to say I still use it but I
don't.. :( It crunches RC5 blocks, and basically serves me documents
on its harddrives. I have over 10 years of information on those hard
drives, I'm to this day trying to decide how I want to migrate it to the
Linux box. Part of me doesn't want to migrate it at all, so I'll be
forced to use the Amiga. But eventually, she's gonna die. I have the
*OLD* Watchtower distro of Linux on the Amiga, and have actually
considered buying the 'Gems' CD from RedHat, but have since decided I'd
rather have one Linux box and an Amiga. :)
> Now it may well be that the few holdouts who are still hanging on have
> some sort of gripe against Linux, but I'll lay odds that there are
> far more former Amiga users in the Linux camp than there are current
> Amiga users.
Just don't mention Linux on #amiga_warez on Galaxy Net. Of course, you
have to have identd working right to even get in, but that's another
story.
--
Walter Francis
http://wally.hplx.net Powered by RedHat 6.0
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From: "jo.Oswald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,sbay.linux,umich.linux,com.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Kernel will not boot.
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 21:37:31 GMT
Hi,
There are a couple of solutions:
One is to recompile the kernel, and use more loadable modules...
this would make it smaller.
The other is to use the command make bzImage, and bzlilo, this should
help fix the problem....:-))
Josef Oswald
private Spam-free address:
linux (DOT) os AT chello (DOT) at :-)
Craig Toshack wrote:
>
> I am currently experiencing a problem with a kernel + modules I
> compiled. I was able to create the .config file and run the folowing
> command:
>
> 1) make dep
> 2) make clean
> 3) make boot
> 4) make modules
> 5) make modules_install
>
> I backed up the original modules by renaming the directory and I did the
> same for my original kernel by renaming the link to vmlinuz.old. I then
> ran "make zlilo" which is supposed to copy the new kernel image to the
> /boot directory and a number fo other things.
>
> Next, I editied the /etc/lilo.conf file for the new kernel and ran
> /sbin/lilo -t -v to test the config for lilo. It ther reports back that
> the kernel is too big.
>
> Anyone know what happens and if there is a fix.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help!
>
> Craig Toshack ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
> --
> What Happens if you get scared half to death twice?
--
Josef Oswald
private Spam-free address:
linux (DOT) os AT chello (DOT) at :-)
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From: "Ruairi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: amount of modems in linux...
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 22:41:33 +0100
I posted an earlier message (below) regarding probs with external modem. I
think I've cured it. Even though the modem was external I still had the
original win modem inside the PC, I could only get a response from the
external modem by taking out the internal modem. This was even after trying
all combinations of com settings etc. I cannot set the com port in the
intenral modem as it's plug and play.
Can there only be one modem on a Redhat 5.2 Linux system? Both modems sat
side by side ok in Windows 95/98 and NT.
Cheers,
Ruairi
============================original
post------------------------------------------------------------
Hello,
I have one of those Intenral Winmodem which Linux does not recognise.
In the meantime I purchased an externa 33.6 Micocom OfficePorte Voice modem
on the assumption that external modems are 'real' modems and that it would
work. I think Microcom is owned by Compaq
However, I cannot get the system to recognise it. In minicom I set the
modem up and when exiting it says 'initializing modem' and nothing at all,
no lights or anything flash on the modem. When the words initializing modem
disappear and the terminal screen appears but when I try and type AT on the
keyboard nothing appears on screen. All I can do is press CTRL A Z for
help. It does'nt matter what com port I place it on.
The modem works ok in windows.
Any one know if this modem can work with Redhat 5.2? I think the modem may
be plug and play, even if a plug and play modem is external will there still
be probs. Plug and Play is a guess, there's nothing in the modem doc to say
plug and play.
thanks,
Ruairi
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From: Rennie Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 21:35:14 GMT
In article <7qp61e$73i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Torvalds) wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Birch <nospam>
wrote:
> >
> >QNX does a number of things right that Linux does flat wrong (true
> >_uncrashable_ (almost) micro kernel, real time performance etc)
>
> Ehhh..
>
> Sure, teh QNX microkernel is pretty uncrashable. But have you ever
asked
> yourself why? Maybe because it doesn't do all that much.
Wouldn't be a microkernel otherwise.
> Put it in a general-purpose system, do some real work with it, open it
> up to people who aren't polite, and see what happens. Not many people
> care that the microkernel hasn't crashed when everything else has.
Ah, the "everything else" in this statement are memory protected
processes just like in Linux; no more or less likely to crash on either
platform. The main difference is that drivers are also memory protected
processes in QNX.
Right at this moment I'm developing a QNX driver on the platform that I
am using to type in this posting. Ooops my driver has a condition where
it goes into a tight loop at high priority, no problem, just kill the
process (from a console with a higher priority than the driver under
development). This scenerio occured 5 minutes, zero reboots, and one
simple bug fix ago... (the driver is working fine now, thank you).
This would almost certainly have been a reboot in Linux.
> >I'm sure you're right, the problem for QNX is that few people know
how
> >good it is because it is so expensive (aimed at a different market).
>
> It's good for that market. But think about that _really_ means for a
> moment. Don't make the mistake of extrapolating goodness in a very
> specialized market into goodness a more real-life and much less
> constrained market.
Don't make the mistake of thinking that there is no such a thing as a
well designed O/S that can be successfully used in any application that
requires an O/S. What makes you believe that there is some inherent
limitation that precludes this ?
There is no question that Linux has the momentum behind it to be well
received as a desktop O/S, and I think this is great. But it is wrong
to state that there is some golden rule that precludes the existance of
an O/S capable of servicing different markets.
btw: I am typing this in on netscape running on our engineering Linux
server, and displayed on my QNX desktop under XFree86. Glad Linux
exists, thank you for excellent effort Linus.
--
"In order to form an immaculate member of a flock
of sheep one must, above all, be a sheep"
- Albert Einstein
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan J. Wylie)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: bypassing fsck
Date: 03 Sep 1999 22:42:25 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> How can I set things up so that certain partitions are never checked at
> boot time? (They are not written to, and several are normally not read
> from either. I just don't want to have to mount them by hand in the rare
> but occuring case that I need something from them, so they are in
> /etc/fstab.
Try mounting them readonly: add "ro" to the options
Also change the pass field to 0
My cd-rom line shows the sort of thing you want:
/dev/hdd /cdrom iso9660 ro,user 0 0
>
> By the way, for those partitions that I want checked, can I arrange fsck
> to run at shutdown time instead of boot time?
And what if the power fails?
>
> System is RH5.2, KDE, kernel 2.2.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Tanhehco Chua)
Subject: Grep with Paragraph option
Date: 3 Sep 1999 21:48:40 GMT
I use the paragraph option on AIX and I don't see it in linux.
Does anyone have a work around. I need this option.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy J. Lee)
Subject: Re: Running a program on a SGI from a PC with LINUX system
Date: 3 Sep 1999 22:08:58 GMT
Reply-To: see-signature-for-email-address---junk-not-welcome
"Sylvain Haudegond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|Do anyone know if it's possible to run a program on a Silicon Graphics
|(Indigo XS24/R4000 with Irix5.3) from a PC with Linux 6.0. Does the rlogin
|command work for this ? Are these two systems "compatible" ?
Assuming you can login with telnet, rlogin, rsh, or ssh, you
can then run the program.
If it uses X, be sure the DISPLAY environment variable is set
properly before starting the program.
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