Linux-Misc Digest #691, Volume #20 Fri, 18 Jun 99 21:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: vgetty problems (Sybren Stuvel)
Re: Can I use two separate mice? ("dpc")
boot question (William Wueppelmann)
Re: Can I use two separate mice? (Monte Phillips)
Re: vgetty problems (Sybren Stuvel)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest
News (Moritz Moeller-Herrmann)
Re: editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks (William Burrow)
Oracle dba password??? (Raymonds Doetjes)
Re: Commercially speaking....? ("mike ryder")
Re: Netscape problem w/Apache (John Hovell)
Re: Netscape problem w/Apache ("Brent Davies")
Re: Parition Magic 4.01 obliterated my ext2 partition (Walt Shekrota)
Re: Virus scanner for Linux? (Curley)
Re: Parition Magic 4.01 obliterated my ext2 partition (Walt Shekrota)
Re: Shutdown (Colin Watson)
Re: OK, Whats wrong with this kernel configuration??? (Colin Watson)
Re: Linux vs Linux? (Alex Lam)
Re: Parition Magic 4.01 obliterated my ext2 partition (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: Netscape problem w/Apache ("Brent Davies")
Has anyone got ip masquerade working on SuSE 6.1? (Allen Ashley)
Re: Linux box for computer newbies : suggestions please ! (Alain Southiere)
Correction (Re: Linux box for computer newbies : suggestions please !) (Alain
Southiere)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest
News (Jason O'Rourke)
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From: Sybren Stuvel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: vgetty problems
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:15:33 +0000
Marc Mutz wrote:
> Would you guys please stop posting your whole syslogs?!
>
> Marc
Sorry if I overloaded the newsgroup. I've cancelled the
full-syslog-message, and here is my new one. Satisfied?
Hi there!
I've just installed mgetty-1.1.12 and am now using vgetty. Everything
works OK, the phone is neatly picked up after 5 rings. There is a nice
beep, and voice-messages are being recorded. One drawback: vgetty won't
play my welcome-message. So the only thing people hear when they call me
is a short silence, a beep, and then more silence. I've included my
vgetty-log. Does anyone have a suggestion?
Using Win9x, I can succesfully use an answering-machine-program, so my
modem supports all the needed functions.
Greetz,
Sybren Stuvel
06/18 11:52:47 yS3 vgetty: experimental test release 0.7.4 / 21Jan98
06/18 11:52:47 yS3 mgetty: experimental test release 1.1.12-Jan27
06/18 11:52:47 yS3 reading generic configuration from config file
/usr/local//etc/mgetty+sendfax/voice.conf
06/18 11:52:47 yS3 reading program vgetty configuration from config
file /usr/local//etc/mgetty+sendfax/voice.conf
06/18 11:52:47 yS3 reading port ttyS3 configuration from config file
/usr/local//etc/mgetty+sendfax/voice.conf
06/18 11:52:47 yS3 check for lockfiles
06/18 11:52:47 yS3 locking the line
06/18 11:52:47 yS3 lowering DTR to reset Modem
06/18 11:52:48 yS3 send: \dATQ0V1H0[0d]
06/18 11:52:48 yS3 waiting for ``OK'' ** found **
06/18 11:52:48 yS3 send: ATS0=0Q0&D3&C1[0d]
06/18 11:52:48 yS3 waiting for ``OK'' ** found **
06/18 11:52:48 yS3 mdm_send: 'ATI'
06/18 11:52:48 yS3 non-numeric ID string: 'ATS0=0Q0&D3&C1'
06/18 11:52:48 ygetty: unexpected byte _ from voice modem
06/17 14:21:05 yS3 vgetty: unexpected byte O from voice modem
06/17 14:21:05 yS3 vgetty: unexpected byte K from voice modem
06/17 14:21:05 yS3 vgetty: unexpected byte _ from voice modem
06/17 14:21:05 yS3 vgetty: unexpected byte _ from voice modem
06/17 14:21:08 yS3 vgetty: unexpected byte _ from voice modem
06/17 14:21:08 yS3 vgetty: unexpected byte E from voice modem
06/17 14:21:08 yS3 vgetty: unexpected byte R from voice modem
06/17 14:21:08 yS3 vgetty: unexpected byte R from voice modem
06/17 14:21:08 yS3 vgetty: unexpected byte O from voice modem
06/17 14:21:08 yS3 vgetty: unexpected byte R from voice modem
06/17 14:21:08 yS3 vgetty: unexpected byte _ from voice modem
06/17 14:21:08 yS3 vgetty: unexpected byte _ from voice modem
06/17 14:21:09 yS3 vgetty: unexpected byte O from voice modem
06/17 14:21:09 yS3 vgetty: unexpected byte K from voice modem
06/17 14:21:09 yS3 vgetty: unexpected byte _ from voice modem
06/17 14:21:12 yS3 recording voice file
/var/spool/voice/incoming/va00453.rmd
06/17 14:21:21 yS3 closing voice modem device
06/17 14:21:21 ##### message keep, length=00:00:08, name='',
caller=none, dev=ttyS3, pid=453
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From: "dpc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can I use two separate mice?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:01:25 -0400
What? I use two mice myself! (when I'm in win that is) as my secondary
mouse is a lot more manueverable when playing Quake2. <grin> People always
ask me why I have two mice - I just shrug...whatever, why not? Comes in
quite handy sometimes. 8)
dpc
...just shootin' the wind...
Monte Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> ROFLMAO!
> Lets see now, first there was the teats on a boar, then refridgerators
> at the north pole ....... I think two mice on a PC qualifies to enter
> that domain.
>
> heheh jes' kiddin'
> On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:00:36 -0400, Ed Gatzke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Is there a relatively easy way to use two mice separately? I know X is
> >set up to control mouse input, but could I hook up an old serial mouse
> >to /dev/ttyS0 and try to get mouse info from that?
> >Ideally, I would like to write code to get and use the secondary mouse
> >information. I thought about looking through the source for X, but I
> >really wouldn't know where to start.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
Subject: boot question
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 20:48:05 GMT
A question: I've placed a symlink to /etc/init.d/ipfwadm in
/etc/rc3.d/S95ipfwadm. The permissions are all correct, and all of the
other scripts (which are also symlinks) in /etc/rc3.d/ are running at boot
time, but my firewall script isn't. If I manually run /etc/init.d/ipfwadm
after boot time, it works alright, so the script itself isn't broken. (All
it does is check to see if /sbin/ipfwadm exists and runs it with my startup
parameters. /sbin is on the root partition, so it shouldn't be a problem
with unmounted filesystems either.)
Before I go into a major investigation over this, I was hoping someone
might have some insight or pointers.
--
It is pitch black.
You are likely to be spammed by a grue.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Monte Phillips)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can I use two separate mice?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 20:33:18 GMT
ROFLMAO!
Lets see now, first there was the teats on a boar, then refridgerators
at the north pole ....... I think two mice on a PC qualifies to enter
that domain.
heheh jes' kiddin'
On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:00:36 -0400, Ed Gatzke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is there a relatively easy way to use two mice separately? I know X is
>set up to control mouse input, but could I hook up an old serial mouse
>to /dev/ttyS0 and try to get mouse info from that?
>Ideally, I would like to write code to get and use the secondary mouse
>information. I thought about looking through the source for X, but I
>really wouldn't know where to start.
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From: Sybren Stuvel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: vgetty problems
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:06:14 +0000
Marc Mutz wrote:
> Would you guys please stop posting your whole syslogs?!
>
> Marc
Ehm... I'm not a royalty, so you could just address me as a single
person...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Moritz Moeller-Herrmann)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft
Retest News
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 23:13:14 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 17 Jun 1999 20:10:33 -0700, Jason O'Rourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Stuart Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Your logic is even worse. You note above that the subroutine was skipped.
>>Did they reinstate that routine? I would have thought that a prudent
>>manufacturer would have to be sure they could support it. If they didn't,
>>that would leave them open to lawsuits in the litigious USA.
>
>The point is that they didn't remove it, and instead left it in a way so
>that it could easily be implemented. The issue was not in making it run
>on drdos, it was to make sure it wouldn't run.
>
>As for the ridiculous statement about the litigious USA: if that were
>true, MS would be out of business by now. Just in the last couple months,
>we've seen the Melissa attack, this recent nasty worm, and the knowledge
>that anyone could exploit IIS with a single line of code.
Oh PLEASE, do not forget the nice identification number that was left turned
on "by accident". My my, we collected all this data "by accident". Too bad fo
people who want to stay anonymous.
--
Moritz Moeller-Herrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 3585990 # Not only
Get my public pgp / gpg key from # Open Source(TM)
http://webrum.uni-mannheim.de/jura/moritz/pubkeymoritz # but also
KDE forever! Use Linux to impress your friends! # Open Minded!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks
Date: 18 Jun 1999 22:03:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:14:47 GMT,
Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Sounds pretty true to form. The head space of that day was
>that IBM was the Evil Empire and Bill Gates and Microsoft
>was the giant killer. He was the giant killer that broke the
>Lotus 123 monopoly on powerful spreadsheets, broke the Apple
>monopoly on PC GUIs, broke the monopoly of Word Perfect word
>processors, broke the dBase monopoly and broke the Adobe
>monopoly on quality scalable screen/print fonts.
Broke the monopoly of web browsers....
>More on IBM - do you remember their "TopView" vaporware PC
>windowing system - they actually backed down when Apple
>threatened to go "Postal" if they continued development.
>Apple was pretty hostile to anybody that threatened their
>monopoly on the desktop GUI operating system.
Topview was real. Dunno if it ever went retail though, it was
supposedly horribly slow and clunky. A company by the name of
Quarterdeck picked up rights to Topview, integrated it with their DESQ
product and came out with that Windex to Windows -- DESQview.
Maybe if they had released DESQview/X on time, the general public might
know what X is, maybe.
>technology! The problem with Apple is the Apple Marketing
>Department and Apple's frenzied supporters. The problem with
>Microsoft? Maybe they have just gotten too big!
The problem with Apple is their top management, the directors. Jobs has
been like a breath of fresh air to an otherwise dying company.
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: Raymonds Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Oracle dba password???
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 00:39:29 +0200
I just finished installing Oracle on RH 6.0 (Jezus is that hard!!!)
And there are some bugs in the install script. I gave a dba password but
he probably did'nt accepted that password or it was reset.
Now I need the default dba password anyone???
Raymond
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From: "mike ryder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 23:37:48 +0100
Jeff Shern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > >DOS was part way there, indeed some non MS versions of DOS
> > >were multi-tasking. And for that matter Concurrent CP/M was
> > >also multi-tasking...
> >
> > Yeah, I remember double-DOS. Anyone here ever been subjected to Pick?
Yeah, I'm into Pick - a really clever O/S with its own database - minimal
hardware with lots of users.
And now - you should see it zip running on Linux !
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From: John Hovell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Netscape problem w/Apache
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 23:02:23 GMT
You were right about the .htm being the problem. Have you restarted the web
server since you changed httpd.conf? I had this same problem. I forget if
there were additional steps I needed to make in order to fix this.
Good luck
-John
Brent Davies wrote:
> I am using RH 5.1 and Apache for my web site. I developed the website with
> Hot Metal Pro. The problem is with Netscape Navigator. When I address the
> URL I get the main page the way I should. From that point forward, no
> matter how many links I click on, only the raw HTML code is displayed in the
> Netscape browser. Internet Explorer works perfectly.
>
> I thought it might be the fact that all of my web pages use the extension
> .htm instead .html, but I made sure that the .htm extension is in the search
> order in httpd.conf.
>
> Has anyone seen this behavior before? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> -Brent
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From: "Brent Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Netscape problem w/Apache
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 23:16:22 GMT
I have restarted the httpd service every time that I change anything. Just
to be safe, I did it again after receiving your posting. No good.
The DirectoryIndex line in srm.conf has a list of files to look for. The
order is:
index.htm
index.html
index.shtml
index.cgi
That's it. If you can remember what you did to fix this, please let me
know.
Thanks,
Brent
John Hovell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> You were right about the .htm being the problem. Have you restarted the
web
> server since you changed httpd.conf? I had this same problem. I forget
if
> there were additional steps I needed to make in order to fix this.
>
> Good luck
> -John
>
> Brent Davies wrote:
>
> > I am using RH 5.1 and Apache for my web site. I developed the website
with
> > Hot Metal Pro. The problem is with Netscape Navigator. When I address
the
> > URL I get the main page the way I should. From that point forward, no
> > matter how many links I click on, only the raw HTML code is displayed in
the
> > Netscape browser. Internet Explorer works perfectly.
> >
> > I thought it might be the fact that all of my web pages use the
extension
> > .htm instead .html, but I made sure that the .htm extension is in the
search
> > order in httpd.conf.
> >
> > Has anyone seen this behavior before? Any help will be greatly
appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Brent
>
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From: Walt Shekrota <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Parition Magic 4.01 obliterated my ext2 partition
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 23:30:49 GMT
Why use tape .... disks are cheap and tape fails besides being slow.
Just a thought. Please don't be offended :)
-Walt
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curley)
Subject: Re: Virus scanner for Linux?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 23:45:07 GMT
On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:13:33 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart
Honsberger) scribbled:
>On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 04:56:41 GMT, Curley wrote:
>
>>Really? Set your watch back 20 years?
>>Is that why microsoft is always incorporating the cutting edge / new
>>technologies in it's operating system? I'm not vouching for the
>>stability of their OS's, or the quality of their products, but they
>>are definately not 20 years in the past.
>
>Oh.. So that's why OS/2 beat NT by 4+ years? The GUI interface beat them
>by atleast 8 years?
Right now, Windows is the the operating system that incorporates the
most new technology available. Not Linux, Not OS/2.
I'm not saying that Windows 'always' is this way, but right now, and
for 90% of it's life span, my original statement is true. I was just
basing that comment on the guys .sig file, that's all.
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From: Walt Shekrota <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Parition Magic 4.01 obliterated my ext2 partition
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 23:47:04 GMT
Actually I think you missed me entirely ...
I'm NOT advocating not doing backups, I'm simply pointing out that if you can mount
the space without using partition magic it is a better alternative.
(certainly safer)
Backups should always be done ... at least minmally, most recently changed files.
Sorry didn't mean to ruffle feathers, just advocating thought before
action.
-Walt
Then at some point in future a full backup and restore would defrag
and consolidate the mounts. PM although I like it too is a scarey tool.
When I think backup I'm talking hard disk!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Shutdown
Date: 18 Jun 1999 23:41:29 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Leonard Evens wrote:
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > I use Redhat 6.0.
> > >
> > > If I reboot the machine with shutdown -r then, while rebooring it`s
> > > say`s ;
> > >
> > > / device is busy
> > >
> > > and it won`t umount /, leaving me with an uncleanly umount ed
> > > filesystem when I reboot.
> > > This doesn`t happen when I reboot with shutdown -h .
> >
> > I'm not sure why you want to do shutdown -r since you can reboot
> > simply by using Ctrl-Alt-Del (if you are running Linux on a PC).
> > But I just checked my lap top which is running RH 6.0 and shutdown
> > -r now seemed to work just fine.
> >
> > I don't know why there should be a difference between -r and -h,
> > but something may be misconfigured. The easy answer is that the
> > error message you get is correct and something is being done on
> > the root file system which can't be interrupted. But I can't
> > think of what that could be. Try it again and check the running
> > processes.
>
> Maybe the original posted didn't logout/shut down X properly before
> he tried to shut the whole system?
That shouldn't be necessary - on the rare occasions I reboot, it
doesn't make any difference whether I'm logged in or not, though
admittedly I do tend to shut down X.
The real issue is probably that some process is hanging around that
didn't respond to a kill -9. (To the original poster: you did see
"sending KILL signal to all processes", or similar, in the shutdown
messages, didn't you? If not, your shutdown scripts are badly broken.)
The only thing I've encountered which doesn't respond to SIGKILLs is a
hard NFS mount whose server is not responding; if you have any of
those, then try mounting them with the additional mount option "intr".
Next time you reboot, check first with 'ps aux' to see if you have any
processes in state "D" (uninterruptible sleep, usually waiting for
input/output). Most processes should be in state "S" or "R", possibly
with additional state letters on the end (read 'man ps'). Any "D"
processes may be a problem, and those will indicate to you where you
should investigate in more detail.
--
Colin Watson [cjw44 at cam.ac.uk]
Trinity College, Cambridge, and Computer Science [riva.ucam.org]
"Logic is about flogging a dead horse."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: OK, Whats wrong with this kernel configuration???
Date: 18 Jun 1999 23:30:28 GMT
In article <7ke2ki$oft$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jeld The Dark Elf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <QzIWukMRIGqp-pn2-efcTUyIe9KoJ@localhost>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > M " " " " " " elf binaries
[...]
> > M second extended fs support
>
> OK Let's see. First thing I noticed is that you compiled ELF support as
> module. Try to compile it into the kernel.
Yep - also "second extended fs" (ext2) support must be compiled in, if
you're using an ext2 filesystem as your root partition.
The general (and simple, once you're aware of it) rule is that
anything which is needed before kerneld (the kernel module loader)
starts *must* be compiled into the kernel (i.e. "*"). Otherwise the
kernel won't be able to use it while booting, as the code which loads
modules hasn't started yet.
kerneld starts shortly after the system enters the default runlevel
(usually 2 or 3). From a glance through your configuration, it looks
like the two modules above are the only two additional options which
need to be compiled in (unless I've missed something).
--
Colin Watson [cjw44 at cam.ac.uk]
Trinity College, Cambridge, and Computer Science [riva.ucam.org]
"Ammo is cheap, remember?" - The Internet Oracle
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux vs Linux?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:02:12 -0700
Mike Persell wrote:
>
> I am fairly new to the Linux ranks. I will say that my system is already
> MS free and I'm loving it.
>
> My question is...I have SuSE 6.1 installed and I'm doing okay but still
> feel like I could do more with the more popular distributions like RH
> and
> Mandrake. I tried once to install RH6 and it won't find any of my NICs,
> an
> IBM Etherjet, a Netgear FA310TX or a 3COM 3c900. I bought SuSE 6.1
> because
> it sees al the hardware in the box. I borrowed a friends Mandrake 6.0
> for
> a trial run and the same problem happened, no eth0 with any of the NICs
> installed (I only use one at a time, btw).
>
> I have been given a copy of Mandrake 6.0 for dad's day. Is Mandrake vs
> SuSE
> worth buying a supported NIC?
>
> Mike
No, SuSE is better developed than RH. Mandrake is just a copy of RH.
I still can't get RH installed on any of my hardware (from 6, 7 years
old to one month old) since RH 4.0. And I've tried RH 4.2, 5.0 and 5.2
as well.
SuSE, FreeBSD installed at the first pass without any problem on all my
hardware,
including those that chocked RH for years.
No. Not worth to buy a NIC for RH.
Alex Lam.
*Remove all the upper case Xs if reply by e mail.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Parition Magic 4.01 obliterated my ext2 partition
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 23:57:48 GMT
In article <JEAa3.54$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Walt Shekrota wrote:
>Why use tape .... disks are cheap and tape fails besides being slow.
14 tapes, one for every day and two sets, 112GB, about $98. 14 disks,
one for every day, two sets, 112GB, about $2800 ... aside from the
need of a screw driver.
>Just a thought. Please don't be offended :)
At least I am not offended, I am on off ... $2702 ... that makes for
a nice holiday.
Ta',
Juergen
--
\ Real name : J�rgen Heinzl \ no flames /
\ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
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From: "Brent Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Netscape problem w/Apache
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 00:03:07 GMT
> are HoTMetaL and Internet Explorer now
> available for linux or . . . Not that I
> would use the latter but I might consider the former.
Well, I'm not sure if they are available. I am using a Windows box to
create
the web site with HotMetal Pro. I don't know if a WYSIWYG editor in Linux.
As for Internet Explorer, I don't know if there is one for Linux, but there
is one
for Solaris. I use Netscape on Linux, but this web site (like most out
there)
will be accessed from Windows machines, as well as UNIX-based
machines. I need to make sure it works for all systems and browsers.
> why do you post to so many Linux groups?
Because I believe my problem is with Linux/Apache. I'm SURE that it's my
fault, but the Linux groups are where I will find my answers.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen Ashley)
Subject: Has anyone got ip masquerade working on SuSE 6.1?
Date: 19 Jun 1999 00:14:57 GMT
Simple question: how did you do it?
Now, both the susehelp and online instructions in the SuSE databank
are wrong, so I have some specific questions:
1. How did you find out about ipchains? I had to grep the entire
source tree looking for ipfwadm to find out that I had to learn
about ipchains. There is a good site at mediaone that translates
the ipfwadm commands into ipchains.
2. What specific options did you enable when you compiled the
kernel. The instructions given by SuSE refer to non-existent
kernel options. I think I turned on what I had to, but I am
not sure.
3. Where did you get the necessary modules, such as ip_masq_ftp
and such that are mentioned in the online databank, but cannot
be added to 6.1? What did you do after downloading the 6Mb
kernmod.rpm file?
4. Would you ever buy another SuSE distribution?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alain Southiere)
Subject: Re: Linux box for computer newbies : suggestions please !
Date: 19 Jun 1999 00:09:06 GMT
On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 02:35:09, Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 18 Jun 1999, Alain Southiere wrote:
>
> > So, I'm thinking about getting a laptop that's a couple
> > of years old (I could have a good price on a P133 Thinkpad,
> > 20MB RAM and 1.3 GB HD, which should be sufficient, IMHO).
>
> KDE and Staroffice might be a bit too much for 20MB. I'm using neither but
> I saw Staroffice on Solaris recently eating up 40+MB.
Well, I checked again with the guy and I was wrong. It
has 40MB of RAM, which seems more reasonable. What do you
think ?
> I would recommend using a simple lightweight window manager (personally I
> use wm2) together with a nice filemanager (I use tkdesk but there are
> others). And Applixware might cost a little more than Staroffice but it
> doesn't need so much memory. Just my two cents,
Never tried Applixware... Is it friendly enough for
total newbies ? How about filters ? Can it import and
export to MSOffice format ?
I was under the impression Applixware is bundled with
one of the major distribution, OpenLinux, I think. Is
that right ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alain Southiere)
Subject: Correction (Re: Linux box for computer newbies : suggestions please !)
Date: 19 Jun 1999 00:12:04 GMT
On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 00:10:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alain Southiere) wrote:
After further verification, I confirmed the laptop has
40MB of memory, not 20MB. It was pretty much a consensus
that 20MB wasn't enough for KDE+Netscape. Will 40MB be
adequate, though ?
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Alain Southiere | If fifty million people
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason O'Rourke)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft
Retest News
Date: 18 Jun 1999 17:03:33 -0700
Stuart Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>You seem to be taking a rather sinister view of all this. Do you think that
>it might be possible that MS programmers are just lazy? Maybe they just
>didn't remove it because they didn't get around to it. Maybe it wasn't a
>high priority.
I guess you had never heard the joke- 'Dos isn't done until Lotus doesn't
run.' (Lotus might not view that as a joke, but I don't think the
statement was proven).
MS has a history of releasing new versions of dos and windows that breaks
the current release of their main competitors. It was especially bad with
the release of 3.1.
>It isn't MS's problem if someone exploits the tools provided in an Office
>app. However it might be if a product didn't work as advertised - win 3.1
>on DR-DOS for instance.
>Does this mean that if I wrote a virus in VB that MS would be responsible?
In my mind, yes. They created a 'feature' that has brought IS departments
using Office to their knees. This started with the tame but annoying word
macro virus and has now gotten quite dangerous.
>>and the knowledge
>> that anyone could exploit IIS with a single line of code.
>Are you suggesting that *nix has no bugs? Or requires no patches to get
>running securely? ALL operating systems have bugs that must be patched, I
>don't care if it's linux, NT, Solaris etc. And why has no-one found this
>bug until now - IIS 4.0 has been out for quite a while now...
Unix certainly has had its troubles, especially with sendmail. But at
this point, most of the issues have been resolved. Open source code and
20 years of release time have been helpful. Meanwhile, Windows and NT
have been used for networking for but a few years and it's pretty clear
that this is going to continue for quite some time. MS won't get sued
over it, they'll make a killing selling fixes instead. Or perhaps people
will start to realize the costs and move on.
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