Linux-Misc Digest #806, Volume #20 Sun, 27 Jun 99 13:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: first/second/third world (Richard Kulisz)
Re: Mounting NTFS? ("Nick Thomas")
Xemacs on RH5.2 (Dan Eaton)
Re: NT the best web platform? (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: Problems with XFree86 and Monitor ("Ron")
Re: Lost disk space! (Wierd!) (James Knott)
Re: Conveting plain-text username and password files (Frank Hahn)
Re: PROXY (Frank Hahn)
Re: (Newbie) Problem in mounting a DOS partition (DonJr)
Re: Installing Glibc (gene)
Why can't I remove IPX from the kernel? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Viral matters [completely off-topic] (John Thompson)
Re: A couple of newbie questions (NF Stevens)
Re: can't run executable (NF Stevens)
Re: How does one read a CDROM in Linux? (Silviu Minut)
How does one read a CDROM in Linux? (Frank Conte)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest
News (Anthony Ord)
Re: wvdial can't find modem on Com 3?? FIXED ("Ronald Haynes")
Re: What is fds_bits? (root)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: first/second/third world
Date: 26 Jun 1999 20:12:18 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>US is not some snow white because no country in the world is
*Some* countries don't use "international obligations" as a justification
for imperialism. *Some* nations actually do help the world. Sweden is a
very example of such a nation.
>Chomsky is good on grammars, and that is where he should stay.
And you're good at nothing so why the hell are you expressing yourself?
>Last time I checked he claimed that terror by communist guerillas
Naturally, he claimed no such thing. Chomsky has been vilified by the
corporate media; it has a lot to do with the fact that he attacks the
corporate media at every turn.
Chomsky has stated that /our/ atrocities should be more of a concern to
us than some other guy's atrocities because we can do something about our
own behaviour, and if we aren't responsible for our own actions then how
the fuck can we be for someone else's? The media took this position and
twisted it beyond any recognition.
>was justified or in Russia there was no terror really. I wonder
>if he claimed that if he has gone through that himself.
I wonder if you'd claim that if you had read any of Chomsky's books or
articles yourself ... yeah, you probably would; stupidity reigns supreme.
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From: "Nick Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED](remove zz)>
Subject: Re: Mounting NTFS?
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:25:43 +0100
Adrian Hands wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>$ rpm -q samba
>samba-2.0.3-8
>$ smbmount "//machine_name/c" "password" -I host -c "mount
>/mnt/mount_point"
>
>Where machine_name is the smb name of your NT box,
>c is the shared-resource you want to mount,
>password is the password,
>host is the dns name (or ip address ?) of the nt box,
>and /mnt/mount_point is where you want it mounted.
>
>Keep an eye on /var/log/samba/smb.log and nmb.log if you have trouble
>
Sorry what I meant, was that the NTFS partition is on a hard disk
in my standalone machine.
I need to know the appropriate format of the 'mount' command,
mount -t <something> /dev/hda6 /mnt/point
Or something similar.
Any more help?
Nick
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From: Dan Eaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.emacs.xemacs,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Xemacs on RH5.2
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 14:29:39 GMT
I am trying to install xemacs and I am running RH5.2 on a P400. The
install seemed to go fine with no errors. I used rpm as follows to do
the install:
rpm-Uvh
ftp://sunsite.org.uk/Mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/redhat/powertools/5.2/SRPMS/
-
xemacs-20.4-2.src.rpm
As I stated, the above command completed with no errors (about 2hrs
later). However, it did not
install anything in my /usr/bin directory or my /usr/lib directories as
expected. RPM query
on the xemacs package(rpm -q xemacs) indicates that xemacs package is
not installed. What am I doing wrong? I have even tried ftp'ing the
rpm file to my root directory and running the rpm install
from there with the same results. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.
Dan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: 27 Jun 1999 15:13:33 GMT
On Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:17:18 +0100, John Hughes wrote:
>Your evidence suggests you cannot configure NT properly.
I see comments like this all the time, and I wonder: does NT really have
this much touted "ease of administration" ? I always hear NT advocates
say "you configured it wrong", but they are incapable of pointing out
*what* was ( or in the absence of detailed information, what *might have*
) been configured incorrectly, which makes one wonder if configuring NT is
not even a science, but a black art.
--
Donovan
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From: "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems with XFree86 and Monitor
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:22:09 +0200
Reply-To: "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
try Xconfigurator
Ron
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Knott)
Subject: Re: Lost disk space! (Wierd!)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:31:18 -0400
Reply-To: James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Ryan T. Rhea" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Has anyone seen my lost 25MB?
Sorry, I haven't. ;-)
--
E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: Conveting plain-text username and password files
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:44:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 25 Jun 1999 20:39:27 GMT, William Burrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 17:14:39 +0000,Kerry J. Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Thanks. Please email me as well as I don't always have the time to
>>check these newsgroups.
>
>Please take the time to check, just use the search or scoring facility
>of your reader to find the subject line.
>
There is also http://www.deja.com for those that are newsreader
impaired! ;)
Sorry for the waste of bandwidth.
--
Frank Hahn
H. L. Mencken's Law:
Those who can -- do.
Those who can't -- teach.
Martin's Extension:
Those who cannot teach -- administrate.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: PROXY
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:44:14 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:25:59 -0400, Marlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I linux box(198.168.200.1) doing PPP. How do I get WIN95
>> (198.168.200.2) Browser to connect to the internet through the linux
>> box?
>> I can telnet from win95 to linux.
>
>I too am trying to do the same thing. I have a Linux box with IP
>192.168.1.254 with my Win95 logged into in with samba. My Win95's IP is
>192.168.1.2.
>
>How do I get my Win95 client to share my PPP connection that Linux has
>up and running?
>
After setting up IP Masquerading on the Linux machine, you need to
tell the Windows machine to use the Linux machine as its gateway.
Go into the TCP/IP setup on the Windows machine. There is a box
to enter the gateway address. This needs to be the IP address of
the Linux machine.
In this same area on the Windows machine, there is a place to put
the IP numbers of your DNS machine. I placed the numbers provided
by my ISP here also.
--
Frank Hahn
Immigration is the sincerest form of flattery.
-- Jack Paar
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From: DonJr <donjr@[127.0.0.1]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: (Newbie) Problem in mounting a DOS partition
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:26:58 -0400
Dave Brown wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Redding wrote:
> >
> >M$ assume that you are only ever going to want 1 primary partition and so
> >if you actually do partition your disk it will create an extended
> >partition for you and then create logical partitions within that logical
> >partition. Hence your logical partitions will be called /dev/hda5,
> >/dev/hda6, etc...but only up to 8 as you can only have 4 logical
> >partitions within an extended partition.
> >
> Shh. Don't tell my hard drive. I've got a whole lot more than 4
> logical partitions in my extended partition. I think it's actually
> 14. (Large disk; I like 1 Gb partition sizes.)
>
> --
> Dave Brown Austin, TX
Shh. Don't tell my hard drive.
20 gig and currently has 17 partitions on it:
hda1 = Win95 .5 gig
hda2 = boot 16meg
had3 = a special 3 gig ext2
hda4 = extended
hda5 = ?
had6 = /
..... { I won't boor you any more}
hda17 = swap
The limit is somewhere around 255. You just have to make the dev
references to access them.
It even possible to have more then one extended partition.
And it's possible to have more then 4 primary partitions.
{-: just that MS based Operating Systems don't get along to well with
the later, but so what :-}
--
-----------------------
Don E. Groves, Jr.
my Email is jetnick AT erols DOT com
I'll add a witty saying here later.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (gene)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Installing Glibc
Date: 27 Jun 1999 15:29:05 GMT
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Why can't I remove IPX from the kernel?
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:51:49 GMT
Ok everyone, I have this problem and I don't understand why I am
getting this problem. Anyway, I am trying to remove IPX and Appletalk
from the kernel (I am using Red Hat 6.0). Anyway, if I do, and run the
make modules and make modules_install, and then do a depmod -a. I get a
whole slew of unresolved modules. What the hell? Why am I getting this
if I am just removing those two modules from the menuconfig?
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Viral matters [completely off-topic]
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 08:10:03 -0600
Abigail wrote:
> John Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on MMCXXV September MCMXCIII
> in <URL:news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> <> Dan Carson wrote:
> <> >
> <> > Unfortunately, "hacking root" is getting more practical all the time. For
> <> > some reason, some people want Linux to "compete" with Microsoft. So in the
> <> > interest of making Linux "easy to use", the Standard Operating Procedure
> <> > is becoming:
> <> >
> <> > 1. Download anything you see on the net with a '.rpm' extension.
> <> >
> <> > 2. su root.
> <> >
> <> > 3. Type rpm -whatever.
> <> >
> <> > 4. Voila! Something happened! I have no idea what, but whatever it was,
> <> > it ran as root!
> <> >
> <> > Now maybe /bin/ls is suid root and does something in addition to the
> <> > standard functionality.
> <> >
> <> > Am I just being paranoid?
> <>
> <> That's why many people use pgp signatures with the rpm's
> <> they build.
> I wasn't aware of that functionality of PGP. Is it only 5.0 that
> refuses to sign files that contain viri, or does 2.6.x have that
> functionality as well?
Smartypants.
The signature allows to you determine whether the package
actually came from who it claims to have come from. If
you're truly paranoid about the rpm's you install you will
only get them from trusted sources. And/or build them from
source code you have personally studied to ensure that there
are no "back doors" that can be exploited.
But I'm sure a big computer guru like you alreay knew
this...
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: A couple of newbie questions
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:31:17 GMT
"Ken Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This isn't a problem - just a newbie trying to understand the boot process.
>
>I boot my machine from a floppy using Lilo. The diskette has the usual
>etc/lilo.conf and /boot/message.
>No matter how much I change the /boot/message file, (like changing the
>timeout from 100 to 200 and/or adding text to the bottom of the file) I
>still get the standard message with the 10 second time out. That is, it
>looks like it is getting another message file from somewhere else. There is
>no lilo.conf or message on my hard drive unless they are hidden.
>
>Questions: Is the lilo message file used when booting from the floppy? Or
>does it just boot straight up from the image?
You need to run lilo after making any changes to lilo.conf so that
these changes are written to the boot sector.
Norman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: can't run executable
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:31:16 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning) wrote:
>Bill Unruh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>:Jacob Ratkiewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>: >That will probably work. If it does, you may want to add the
>: >./ directory to your path to avoid having to type it every
>
>: This is also dangerous. A hacker puts a rogue program named
>: ls into /tmp. You just type ls while you are in /tmp, and
>: instead of running the system ls, it runs the rogue program.
>: Better just to get used to typing ./ This is especially true
>: of root.
>: a) Do not put . into the path of root.
>: b) If you really want . in your path, put it in as the very
>: last item in the path, certainly not the first.
>
>I've heard this argument before. I accepted it then because I
>didn't know any better. Now I think I can almost refute it; I
>could definitely refute it if the man page was more explicit
>(see below). Please explain the flaw in my logic if I am
>incorrect.
[snip]
Have you never mistyped "ls" as "sl"?
Norman
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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How does one read a CDROM in Linux?
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:50:41 -0400
As root
>mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
I bet you've tried this. If it didn't work here are a few possible
reasons.
Make sure you do have the directory /mnt/cdrom. If you don't, create it
mkdir /mnt/cdrom
Secondly, /dev/cdrom is a link to the actual /dev/hd? corresponding to
your cdrom. Normally, the motherboard has two slots for the ribbon
cables that go to the hard disk, cdrom, zip disk. On each cable can be 2
drives: master and slave.
Specifically,
slot 1: master /dev/hda
slave /dev/hdb
slot 2: master /dev/hdc
slave /dev/hdd
Usually the first hard disk is /dev/hda. The cdrom is on /dev/hdb. So
make a link
ln -s /dev/hdb /dev/cdrom
Then the above mount command will work. Of course, you can use directly
/dev/hdb instead of /dev/cdrom.
If your cdrom is not on /dev/hdb (e.g on /dev/hdc) then of course you
will use the appropriate letter.
All this discussion refers to ide drives.
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt is extremely useful.
Silviu Minut
Frank Conte wrote:
> I've been having problems mounting a CD Rom in Linux RH 5.2
> I've tried the mount command but to no avail. Any help would be
> appreciated?
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From: Frank Conte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How does one read a CDROM in Linux?
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 16:27:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've been having problems mounting a CD Rom in Linux RH 5.2
I've tried the mount command but to no avail. Any help would be
appreciated?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft
Retest News
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 16:10:47 GMT
On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 15:11:20 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
wrote:
>On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 18:15:46 GMT, Anthony Ord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:56:07 +0100, Robin Becker
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <7l280k$1d9i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hughes
>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>>>How about these? Did MS cheat also? ;)
>>>>
>>>>http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/stories/reviews/0,6755,2256617,00.html
>>>>
>>>>http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/jumps/0,4270,401961,00.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>...
>>>a bit off topic, but an article in my paper, the Independent, states
>>>that M$'s encarta has different versions for different countries. If M$
>>>can claim in the US that Edison (October 1879) invented the electric
>>>light bulb before Swan (February 1879) then a few adjustments to
>>>benchmark results seem minor. Apparently the M$ mouthpiece says these
>>>sort of 'facts' aren't always black and white etc etc.
>>
>>It's just to appease the American public. Just like the
>>Second World War went from 1941 (when the Americans joined)
>>to 1945. What was it before that? A bun fight?
>
> Does Encarta say that? American public school textbooks
> certainly don't. Ours even covered the concentration camps.
What do you mean "even"? Any reason why they shouldn't?
>[deletia]
Regards
Anthony
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| They fall apart |
| When the walls come tumbling in |
| Though we may deserve it |
| It will be worth it - Depeche Mode |
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From: "Ronald Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: wvdial can't find modem on Com 3?? FIXED
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 10:10:29 -0700
Hi, thanks for everyones help.... the problem had to
do with the PNP initialization on boot up... I had
to overide this by uncommenting a line in the serial
file in /etc/rc.d. Upon doing this, wvdial now sees my modem.
Thanks,
R Haynes
Bill Unruh wrote in message <7l4fea$bfn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In <7l49tr$bgs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Ronald Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
>
>>Hi, I have installed Suse 6.1, and have "configured" my modem
>>with Yast under Com 3 (in dos). Seems to work...
>
>>running wvdial on /etc/wvdial.conf fails because no
>>modem is found either on ttyS1 or ttyS2 (supposedly the
>>correct location... )
>
>I have had trouble getting wvdial to run. That could be your problem.
>you may have a winmodem. Was that configuring under dos, under a dos
>session on windows? Winmodems will not work under Linux.
>
>
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: What is fds_bits?
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:41:12 +0800
Pete wrote:
> hard to say without seeing more output.
>
> perhaps a missing include file? or an honest to god bug (hard to fathom
> though).
>
> need more details...
>
> pete
>
> Jarvis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : Hi, i was trying to compile BitchX on redhat6.0 and i got this error
> : about
> : structure has no member "fds_bits"
> : Does anyone know what is missing from my system?
>
> --
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> The best way to accelerate a win95 system is at 9.81 m/s^2
here!!
gcc -O2 -Wall -D_VERSION_=\"BitchX\" -I../include -c commands.c
commands.c: In function `echocmd':
commands.c:1897: warning: implicit declaration of function `tputs'
commands.c: In function `e_debug':
commands.c:4685: structure has no member named `fds_bits'
make[1]: *** [commands.o] Error 1
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