Linux-Misc Digest #844, Volume #20 Tue, 29 Jun 99 11:13:14 EDT
Contents:
Re: glibc on cvs where? (Mads Dydensborg)
Re: Documentation issues. (Ketil Z Malde)
Re: Routing two Internet Networks ("T.J. Weber")
Re: Linux loses in NT tests ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux jingle ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
PS and graphics driver (Ionut Georgescu)
Re: booting linux from NT bootloader...don't work ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux loses in NT tests (Rod Smith)
Re: converting emails (Jon Skeet)
Re: undo password checking (Jon Skeet)
Re: Wordperfect and color printing (Vinh Le)
Re: Wordperfect and color printing (Rod Smith)
Re: Mac-emulation on Linux? ("Brian J. Johnson")
Maine hosts/ISPs ("dharmabm")
Re: remote printing ("Fraggle Huebsch")
Re: Printer broken with new kernel.. (Matthew P. Cummings)
Re: Default file permissions (Jon Skeet)
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From: Mads Dydensborg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: glibc on cvs where?
Date: 29 Jun 1999 14:01:22 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (F. Heitkamp) writes:
> I've read that a person could get glibc development
> via CVS. Where? Also is there a list of bugs in
> glibc available?
A good place to start is probably www.gnu.org
Mads
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.unix.bsd.misc
Subject: Re: Documentation issues.
From: Ketil Z Malde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:32:05 GMT
Richard Kettlewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I think the thing that would improve that for me is if Emacs could
> recognize the keys `RET RET' in the context where starting a new
> paragraph would make sense (i.e. where either <p> or </p><p> would be
> allowed in e.g. HTML or Linuxdoc) and do the appropriate thing.
I usually get by with replacing all RET RETs with RET </p><p> RET, and
fixing the first and last, if I'm converting typed text to HTML or
similar. If I'm writing HTML myself, I don't really mind the C-c C-e
p RET to insert the proper tags.
BTW, didn't the original Linuxdoc DTD - you know, the one designed to
be converted to LaTeX, and nothing but - treat double-RET paragraphs
automatically by working black and ugly magic on the SGML-declaration?
> To do that properly I suppose Emacs would have to know which entity
> in a given DTD was supposed to represent a paragraph. If my
> understanding is correct that's not something that the DTD can
> really tell you...?
No, you'd have to do it on a case-by-case basis. You don't always
have anything like paragraphs.
> (Obviously this wouldn't represent a solution for people who don't use
> Emacs SGML mode.)
Well, they probably want the pain anyway :-)
-kzm
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From: "T.J. Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,linux.net
Subject: Re: Routing two Internet Networks
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 07:18:43 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ben Short wrote:
> Wouldnt you need to set the default gateway on the 10.201 IP block?
>
> route add default gw 10.201.30.1
>
> and similarly do the same for all other computer which use the IP block?
My fear is that it sets the default gateway for all IPs on the
computer. Can I have two 'default routes' on the same computer?
--t.j.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux loses in NT tests
Date: 29 Jun 1999 12:02:35 GMT
Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
= (Do you think any of the distro menus really tell you anything other
= than the initial installation start up?)
= Most of the menus are junk.
You mean manuals?
SuSE has quite a lot of the Linux Documentation Project on the CD.
(Including the Network Administration Guide and the System Administration
Guide... Both of these look very usefull...)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux jingle
Date: 29 Jun 1999 11:48:14 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Thomas Zajic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
= On 22 Jun 1999 20:03:07 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:
= > [ ... ]
= > "Linux: when you absolutely, positively have to be up overnight!"
= > [With all due apologies to the appropriate shipping company.]
= Shipping company? Personally, this reminds me of the Quake manual ...
= from MANUAL.TXT:
= VI. Your New Environment
= A. Firepower
= You are blessed with eight different Means o' Mass Destruction. Each has
= its place in a balanced diet.
= [ ... ]
= Rocket Launcher
= For when a grenade positively, absolutely, has to be there on time.
Looks like they're "Paying homage" to the same advert....
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|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ |
|X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! >*SULK*<|
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ionut Georgescu)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: PS and graphics driver
Date: 29 Jun 1999 12:34:06 GMT
Hi there,
I've got this problem with handling PS files. I mean, as a normal user I can use dvips
and gv to work with them, but a2ps will not work. If I run gv as a root than it messes
up my XWindows and I have to quit with Ctrl+Alt+Backspace. I also tried xv. It works
with anything but PS.
If in normal text mode, as root, I try to use a2ps, ps2pdf or any other command that
has something to do with PS than it simply displays "Using VGA driver" and does
nothing else.
Can anyone explain me how these PS things and the graphics driver are linked together ?
The box: Debian/GNU Linux 1.3 AMD K6 233MHz, 64RAM, ATI Mach64 Xpert@Work, V-1024
monitor setted as 800x600, H:31.2-37.9, V:50-90, refresh 60 non-interlaced, depth 8.
No printer physically installed. Otherwise the machine works just fine.
The OS is the standard with no upgrades. It is not my personal box and I don't now
unfortunately the libraries' and the kernel's versions.
Thanks a lot,
Johnny
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* "In Windows you can do everything Microsoft wants you to do; in Unix you
* can do anything the computer is able to do."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: booting linux from NT bootloader...don't work
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:39:41 GMT
Hi Andy,
I am sorry but I do not have an answer for you. However, i do have
aquestion for you.I am having trouble booting into windows from the
LILO boot loader. Did you place LILO in the master boot record? or in
the linux root partition? I think this is my problem but I am not sure.
In article <7labdr$3db$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Andreas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi,
>
> i just installed redhat 60 on my pc
> i have two harddisk first is /dev/sda contains winNT on a FAT
partition and
> two NTFS formatted partitions (1gb, 2x1.5gb)
> second (primary on ide) is /dev/hda with small FAT (200mb) hda1
conatins
> win95 and hda2 (200mb) with the linux root partition
> (therefore its within the first 1024 sectors, right)
> both as primary partitions an extended contains a swap part. and /usr
as
> well as another two FAT partions (2x2gb)
>
> NT boots win95 fine and i now added the linux entry to boot.ini after
> copying the linux bootsector to sda1 (the one nt boots from)
> (dd if=/dev/hda2 of=bootsect.lin bs=512 count=1
> boot.ini:
> c:\bootsect.lin=linux)
>
> when trying to boot it brings me several numbers to the screen which
> actually don't stop .....
> from bootdisk everything is just fine.
>
> anybody has an idea what's going wrong?
>
> ...the question is NOT why i want to have that much of windows
running on my
> pc!
>
> thanks
> Andy
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Linux loses in NT tests
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:01:12 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> I tried it on 5 machines, RH chocked on all 5 , but the other distros
> were able to installed properly and smoothly on the same 5 machines.
> I tried RH 4.0, 4.2, 5.2.
> Non were able to even finish the initial installation.
>
> Would you call that junk if that happens to you?
Not unless I knew that sort of experience was common. The fact of the
matter is that ALL distributions get their share of installation problem
reports. Given the popularity of Red Hat, it's likely that SOMEBODY would
have it fail on five out of five machines. That person happened to be
you. I'd be surprised if you couldn't find a similar tale of woe from
somebody trying SuSE, or Debian, or Caldera. Plenty of others (myself
included) have had no problems installing Red Hat.
That said, it's certainly possible that Red Hat runs into more install
problems than other distributions, but it's impossible to judge this
accurately from newsgroup postings, for any of a number of reasons. What
might be more interesting would be some sort of database providing
comparisons of installation experiences on the same computers. With that
and proper statistical analyses, you could begin to draw conclusions.
--
Rod Smith
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Author of _Special Edition Using WordPerfect for Linux_, from Que;
see http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith/books.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: converting emails
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:07:02 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> - to convert the message (from different formats like netscape or
> outlook express) into html
What do you mean by the different formats? If your linux box is receiving
the message, it should be in the standard (RFC 821 and 822) formats. You
would only need to know Netscape/OE formats if you're using the mail
client's own storage, which it doesn't *sound* like you are...
--
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: undo password checking
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:09:13 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi , I am redhat user . When we setting password with some word which
> is in the dictationary .
>
> Can I cancel this setting when setting a password next time ?
It's not very clear what you mean, but I *think* you want
passwd -o
Try man passwd to check.
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http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/
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From: Vinh Le <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wordperfect and color printing
Date: 29 Jun 1999 14:23:02 GMT
Rod Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Color printing *IS* supported in the downloadable version. You do need to
: install an appropriate color printer driver, though (color PostScript
: printer if you're going through Ghostscript, or one for your specific
: model of printer otherwise). You can check my web page for more details:
: http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith/wpfonts.html
Thanks for the response Rod!
After further tinkering on my part, I discovered that the HP Laserjet
Color Postscript drivers added a little bit of extra code at the top
of the output file to tell the HP to switch to postscript mode. This
prevented lp from using ghostscript to interpret the postscript. I
found that if I just deleted this first line and did a "cat file | lpr"
everything would work fine.
So, after discovering that, I looked for another postscript driver
that was pure, i.e. didn't add extra stuff. I found that in the
QMS Colorscript and QMS magicscript printer drivers, the latter one
you list on your site.
In summary: If you're using a non-postscript color printer with
ghostscript and Wordperfect, use one of the QMS Colorscript or
QMS magicscript printer drivers.
Vinh Le
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Wordperfect and color printing
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:06:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <7l8ull$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Vinh Le <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hey,
>
> Just a quick question: Does Wordperfect 8 support color
> printing in the retail version? The free downloadable
> version has the option ghosted. Obtaining the key
> doesn't add the feature either.
Color printing *IS* supported in the downloadable version. You do need to
install an appropriate color printer driver, though (color PostScript
printer if you're going through Ghostscript, or one for your specific
model of printer otherwise). You can check my web page for more details:
http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith/wpfonts.html
--
Rod Smith
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http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith
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Author of _Special Edition Using WordPerfect for Linux_, from Que;
see http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith/books.html
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From: "Brian J. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Mac-emulation on Linux?
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:55:58 -0500
"Anthony D. Saxton" wrote:
>
> Matt Denton wrote:
>
> > In article <7gjd3s$cdo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "FM"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > 2. Buy a Macintosh and dual boot with Linux/MacOS
> >
> > This is probably the best option - LinuxPPC is pretty solid, MKlinux
> > (easier to install?) is a bit sluggish as it runs on top of a Mach
> > microkernel instead of natively but is a decent port of Linux nonetheless.
> >
> > Me, I'm looking forward to Sheepshaver (http://www.sheepshaver.com) MacOS
> > VM for Linux to see how that works...
> >
> > --
> > Matt Denton
> > San Francisco, USA
>
> SheepShaver's fine for those of us privilidged few using the PowerPC version
> of linux. It won't help anyone that doesn't have a PREP, BeBox or PowerMac
> though.
You may want to check out BasiliskII, a GPLed 68K Mac emulator from the
same folks who are doing SheepShaver. It's designed for portability and
appears to run under Intel linux (although I've only tried it under SGI
Irix so far.) It's still very much alphaware, but is seeing frequent
updates.
http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bauec002/B2Main.html
Brian J. Johnson
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From: "dharmabm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Maine hosts/ISPs
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 03:48:28 -0400
Hello all!
I am looking for a linux-based web host and/or ISP in the Portland Maine
area. If replying offline, remove the obvious!
PEACE!!!
kevin
"We do doodly do doodly do doodly do,
What we must muddily must muddily must muddily must,
Muddily do muddily do muddily do muddily do,
'Til we bust bodily bust bodily bust bodily bust."
- Kurt Vonnegut
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From: "Fraggle Huebsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: remote printing
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:28:34 +0200
Hi!
Yes indeed there were some changes:
The device for standard printer is now lp0, not lp1 any longer.
Get further info at the SuSE support db:
http://www.suse.de/sdb/en/html/key_form.html
good luck, Fraggle
Miguel Lastra wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hello
>
> I jus upgraded form Suse 6.0 (2.0.36) to Suse 6.1 (2.2.27). I did
>reinstall the whole system, and now remote printing is not working. When
>I type lpq it says that the remote daemon is busy, but my other computer
>with SUSE 6.0 can print flawleesly on the same remote printer.
>
> Has something changed concerning the lpq daemon ??
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
> Miguel
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From: cummings@TRY-IT&PAYstingray.net (Matthew P. Cummings)
Subject: Re: Printer broken with new kernel..
Date: 29 Jun 1999 12:12:45 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> and I just get a ' No such device' error.
Then stick it in the kernel as either a module, or compiled into it. I am
using 2.2.10 and it works fine for me.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: Default file permissions
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:18:07 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Well, I had no luck with this one in *.linux.help, so I give it a shot here!
>
> If I have a directory '/foo/bar', is it possible to set an "umask" on just
> that directory. I want all the files created in that directory to recieve a
> special permission whilst files created elsewhere get the usual permissions.
> Is it possible?
>
> I got the suggestion to set up cron-job to run "chmod -R" but cron's lowest
> update interval is minute. I want "instant access", immediatly when the file
> is created the permissions change.
>
> Right now it looks as though I have to develop my on little FS. But that's OK,
> at least I'll learn something! :-)
Well, there's a grotty hack that you could put in which would do *some*
of what you want. Alias cd so that it checks for the presence of a
special file (eg .umask ?) in the directory you want to change to, and
changes your umask appropriately. Note that that wouldn't do things for
all *files* in that directory, only files you created when you were *in*
that directory. Probably not what you want, but thought I'd mention the
idea...
--
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/
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