Linux-Misc Digest #844, Volume #24 Sun, 18 Jun 00 01:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Levelling audio files ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Fonts, Netscape and the upgrade to RH6.2 (Robert Love)
HELP! dropping 50% of packets to one domain, and only one domain. (Scott Davison)
Tape backup: tar versus dump (Craig McCluskey)
tarring dos/windows files (Bruceh)
Error log for boot-up? (Steve Browne)
Re: How to make RealPLayer a plug-in? (Neville Cobb)
Re: Mandrake 7.1 installation error ("Bruce")
how to bash redirect stdout stderr without buffering (Tim Richardson)
HELP!!! ("Michael Brailsford")
Re: Mandrake 7.1: is it fixed yet? ("Ferdinand V. Mendoza")
Helix Gnome and esd (Chuck Hakari)
Re: Missing characters in Netscape pages ("D. Stimits")
Re: Can't load Linux (Carl Fink)
Re: Cable Moden Setup Questions (Carl Fink)
Re: download + install Linux (Robert L)
Re: Tape backup: tar versus dump (mark carroll)
Re: Linux using up 256 Mb??? ("Dr. Guillermo A. Morales")
VMware under SuSE 6.1 Problem :-( (iMpU)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Levelling audio files
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:38:51 GMT
Dirk Freese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Does anyone know where to find something that fits my needs? (Shell
: programs preferred)
SOX.
Regards,
Friedhelm
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Microsoft is NOT the answer. Microsoft is the Question.
The answer is: "NO!"
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phone + fax: +49-40-5236562 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Robert Love <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fonts, Netscape and the upgrade to RH6.2
Date: 16 Jun 2000 17:43:16 -0500
I was running just fine with RH 6.0, including web browsing
with Netscape. Last weekend I upgraded to RH 6.2 and everything
is OK except fonts look funny in Netscape. Some large fonts
are so coarse as to be unreadable. How do I recover from
this? All advice appreciated.
Bob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Davison)
Subject: HELP! dropping 50% of packets to one domain, and only one domain.
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 02:41:31 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all.
I have a slight problem.
I have a redhat 6.1 machine (Sun Ultra 10) set up as my router here at
the office. My line to the rest of the world works like this: I have
a 100baseTx switch that I plug into that I don't have control over.
>From there, there are 2 routers. One that goes to purdue.edu at
100baseTx and one that goes to my isp with a T1. Any traffic through
my router to purdue.edu drops 50% of the packets. However, everything
works perfectly to any other server that I want to hit. I have tried
switching NICs, but to no avail.
Now, in order to test this, I have put a different linux box on the
same line. (different cable from machine to wall, but to the same
port on the wall). This linux box is a standard x86 workstation.
named, etc. is not running on this one. it has the exact same problem
going to purdue.edu. Now for the fun part. Reboot the linux box to
windows NT, and it works perfectly. purdue.edu and all.
If I take the network cable from the linux box (either one) and unplug
it from the wall, wait a few seconds, then plug it back in, the
machine reinitializes the card (I am assuming ) and everything works
fine. I set up a ping to www.purdue.edu and after about icmp_seq 500,
it starts dropping packets again.
anyone have any ideas?
The router that I am plugged into has been changed from autodetection
to forced 100baseT full-duplex, 100baseT half-duplex, etc. but
nothing has worked.
I would appreciate any advice you could give.
--Scott Davison
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Software Developer
Maxim I/T
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From: Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Tape backup: tar versus dump
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 21:40:40 -0500
In reading the tape backup discussions in the comp.os.linux.*
newsgroups,
I read of some using tar for backups and some using dump (of the
standard
Linux commands, that is, 3rd party applications are a different story --
and
unacceptable to my dissertation advisor). We're using an HP 35480A (a
DDS DC [DDS-1 with hardware compression] SCSI drive).
How can one decide between tar and dump? Both have terse man pages (what
do you expect? :-) ) but dump's seems more inscruitable than tar's. I
know
what tar does (and how to write a short shell script to make it a
proper backup utility), but I don't really have a handle on dump.
In reading dump's man page, I find it backs up either filesystems or
directories. In backing up directories, it seems to work like tar.
In backing up filesystems, I understand that it works on a partition-by-
partition basis. I have been told that in doing so, it makes an image of
what is on the partition, but have seen no documentation that describes
what's exactly going on.
In any event, it seems that neither tar nor dump backup the MBR and the
partition size table. Thus in recovering from a total disk loss, one
would
have to partition the (new) hard disk, roll the backup tapes onto the
new
disk partitions one-by-one, and then run /sbin/lilo to write the MBR. Is
dump better for this than tar? How does one decide?
In addition, the different backup levels of dump are confusing. Why ten
different levels? Why not just two (full and incremental)? And how does
the, "Tower of Hanoi algorithm," help maintain the integrity of one's
data backup?
As you can tell, I have a lot of questions!
Craig
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From: Bruceh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: tarring dos/windows files
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 02:50:36 GMT
I am tarring files from my dos/Windows partition and am getting
several errors:
tar: File <xxx> shrunk by <#> bytes, padding with zeros
When I read the tar file with
tar -tvf
it stops at the first <xxx> file during the tar -cvf. However
adding a -i (ignore blocks of zeros in archive) I can get past
the barrier.
If I try to read the tar file in Windows using WinZip I do not
have an equivalent -i method.
What causes the error in the first place and is there a way
I can overcome the problem?
Thanks.
-bruceh-
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From: Steve Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Error log for boot-up?
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 20:56:38 -0600
I've just installed Mandrake 7.1 (99% RedHat), and while the
single-CPU kernel boots up fine on my dual-Celeron system, the SMP
kernel hangs on "checking for new hardware". Both 2.2.15-4mdksmp and
2.2.16-4mdksmp hang. Previous versions of Mandrake have not had this
problem on this machine.
Is there any way to enable an errorlog.text for a partial boot, so I
can backtrack and see just what the kernel is looking for and can't
find? I would guess it is related to the "kudzu" app, but other than
that I'm stumped.
Thank you,
Steve
Stephen B. Browne
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From: Neville Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to make RealPLayer a plug-in?
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:03:08 +1000
Andrew
There is a good article at the following site that describes how to set
up real player for netscape.
http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/software/realg2.html
Nev
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Andrew Purugganan wrote:
> I have Nutscrape 4.6 and Real PLayer 7, but NS doesn't treat RP as a
> plug-in, even though it's listed in the Help/About Plug-ins, and the
> correct *.ram extension has been 'linked' to it.
> Why doesn't RP autostart when I click on a *.ram or *.ra URL?
> TIA
> --
> jazz annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org
> Registered linux user no. 164098
> Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
> --- OUT THERE??
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From: "Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.1 installation error
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 03:04:54 GMT
Just tried the same thing and got the same error message. Any work
arounds/solutions/suggestions?
"T.T. Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8i9u05$8g4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi, just tried to install Mandrake 7.1 off the net (I have T1
> connection), but got this error message during installation:
>
> An error occurred: dpslist.ordered mismatch against hdlist files
>
> What's wrong? I had Mandrake 7.0 installed in my hard disk but I
> thought that 7.1 already reformated all the partitions.. any idea?
> thanks!
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: Tim Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to bash redirect stdout stderr without buffering
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 03:13:20 GMT
I have a perl script that is hanging requiring me to ctrl-c it.
I want to send the output (stdout) to the developer, but because it
crashes and I have to kill it, the redirect file is always empty, which
I suppose has something to do with buffering. Is there a way of doing an
unbuffered redirect from bash?
--
Tim Richardson
(search string: qweeblebeast)
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Michael Brailsford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP!!!
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 21:05:52 -0600
When installing Mandrake, I get half way through the install, and I get
problems. I've searched high and low for an answer, but I can't find
anything for my specific problem. Ok, here are the specifics. I downloaded
Mandrake, and put the Mandrake directory on root on my c:\. I bought and
installed a new 10.2 GB hardrive that I will be dedicating to Linux, that
drive is d:\. When I create the boot disks I use hd.img, to install from
the hardrive. When I reboot, everything works perfectly well. I have no
problems creating the partitions on d: or anything like that(I have a "/",
"/home", and swap partitions). Then when DrakX attempts to continue
installing the packages, it gives me "depslist.ordered does not match
hdlist" error. I think the problem may be that since the drive it is
installing from is DOS the directories "RPMS", and "RPMS2" are in lowercase,
and Linux needs them to be uppercase. I have tried to find "mv" to rename
them, but I have had no luck. I can't just rename them in DOS since it is
case insensitive. When I attempt to continue with the install I get other
errors, but I am assuming that they are all a result of the first error.
What do you think? Any help would be VERY greatly appreciated. BTW this is
my first Linux install, so if possible I would like to stay with the
graphical install as much as possible. Thanks in advance.
Michael
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From: "Ferdinand V. Mendoza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.1: is it fixed yet?
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 07:50:41 +0400
I have just installed recently the final release of 7.1
and I could say that so far it is the most massive and
the coolest. It has found all the pieces of my hardware
during install time.
I'm running on Xfree4.0 and seems to be okay although
it doesn't support DPMS unlike the earlier releases.
Reiserfs is the thing to go. I like it. No more fsck's when
you boot the machine from a power failure or hitting
the reset button deliberately or by accident.
Ferdinand
Christopher Wong wrote:
> Have they fixed up the bugs that made Mandrake 7 so maddening? Some of
> these I reported, to no avail. Many problems tend not to be discovered
> by reviewers who only try the installation step. Here is some of what
> I encountered:
>
> - XEmacs info system broken. They compressed the info files with
> bzip2, but forgot to tell XEmacs how to handle them. This bug was
> originally reported on Sep 1999, and was still broken in version 6.1
> and 7. Is it STILL busted?
>
> - The ftape driver did not work. Somewhere between Mandrake 5 and 6,
> it broke. My floppy tape drive would not work until I manually loaded
> zftape.o. I reported the problem to Mandrake, and they closed the bug
> without fixing it. Still broken in Mandrake 7.
>
> - Upgrade install did not. I tried their upgrade installation over my
> Mandrake 6.1 machine. I tweaked the selection of packages and ran the
> upgrade. After the install, I found that most of the packages were not
> upgraded. I think there was some dependency issues that they neglected
> to handle or inform me about. I had to upgrade many of the packages by
> hand.
>
> - Mandrake Security (msec) gone berzerk. One of their security
> customization scripts had a bug that clobbered my /etc/inittab,
> rendering my system unbootable. Most unnerving. The security settings
> did not make sense for a network-connected individual user. Why isn't
> there a setting that gives strong network security but relaxed user
> security? A lot of the settings at the "normal" level was rather
> irritating, preventing user access to a lot of normally accessible
> directories and files. Moreover, the thing regularly scheduled lengthy
> (and noisy) disk scans to check permissions.
>
> Chris
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From: Chuck Hakari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Helix Gnome and esd
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 19:06:56 -0800
I have just installed Helix Gnome from RPM's over an existing Gnome
installation on a Redhat 6.0 system. The problem I am having now is that
the session appears to lock up, but when I switch terminals and run top,
I find that esd is running with 97% of the cpu. Most of the time I can
kill esd and get back to work, but I would like to know if anyone else
has had this problem.
Thanks!
Chuck Hakari
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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 22:01:52 -0600
From: "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Missing characters in Netscape pages
Christopher Wong wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dances
> With Crows wrote:
> >On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:27:36 GMT, Christopher Wong
> ><<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> >>When browsing the web with Netscape or kfm, I often come across pages
> >>where some characters do not display in the browser. I would see a '?'
> >>or some other generic placeholder depending on the font I am
> >>using. The undisplayed characters are generally punctuation characters
> >>such as quotes. I usually use Microsoft's TrueType fonts when
> >>browsing. This is probably a well-known problem, so I would appreciate
> >>it if someone could point me to a document explaining the problem and
> >>work-arounds. Thanks in advance.
> >
> >The problem is boneheaded Web designers who use direct character codes
> >like — in their HTML. (ASCII code 151, shows as an em-dash under
> >Lose9x.) You'll find that all the characters that show up as "?" are in
> >the range 128-159, which is not defined in the ISO 8859-1 standard.
> >There probably isn't a workaround for Netscape, but you have the source to
> >kfm and someone could probably kludge something in to display " for the
> >"Stupid Quotes" and -- for the dashes. Submit a feature request to the
> >Mozilla team if no one's done so already.
>
> Ah, so that's it. Still, it would be hard to argue that the designers
> are being "boneheaded": they could just as easily argue that this is a
> deficiency in Linux/X. The HTML standard (I am looking at the HTML
> 4.01 spec on w3c.org) specifies ISO10646 aka Unicode as the HTML
> standard for the numerical character references. And of course, the
> ISO10646 standard defines a lot more characters than the ISO8859-1
> standard. Web designers could argue that Linux web browsers are not
> standards compliant. Is there a better argument to present to
> webmasters than "you bonehead, you are not following the standard"?
>
> I suppose another way to fix this problem is to have a web proxy fix
> up the HTML stream on the fly. This has the effect of modifying the
> content, so I am not sure what the legal issues there are behind
> this. It may be asking too much to have Junkbuster handle this, but it
> would be nice.
>
> Chris
I suppose you could also write a plugin for NS to remap certain unknown
characters on-the-fly, if they are in a string or other displayable
text. Personally, I find all browsers to be a bit braindead, partly due
to wars over javascript standards, and other business concerns.
On the other hand, unicode is rather difficult to support properly.
Making browsers show up the same isn't easy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: Can't load Linux
Date: 17 Jun 2000 22:17:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 17 Jun 2000 18:30:07 GMT Scott Szymanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Is fsck like scandisk for windows?
Sort of. It's like all the parts except the "surface scan". In
Linux, you'd be using badblocks for a surface scan.
To invoke fsck on a typical Linux volume, you would type something
like:
e2fsck -fv /dev/hda1
Where "e2fsck" means "run a file system check on an e2fs volume".
(The second extended file system (e2fs) is the standard type of disk
partition for Linux through kernel 2.2.x._) The "-fv" means "fix any
problems you detect without asking me" and "tell me what you're
doing." /dev/hda1 means "the first partition on the first IDE hard
disk drive."
In Linux and other Unix-like systems, typing
man e2fsck
at a command prompt will give you help on using that command.
I agree with the advice you got to use "shutdown -h now" before
turning off your computer. Use "shutdown -r now" to reboot.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum
<http://dm.net>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: Cable Moden Setup Questions
Date: 17 Jun 2000 22:19:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 17 Jun 2000 19:31:38 GMT Java__Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> . . . I have a few messages pop up that basically say that I can
>not connect to the a site . . .
The first thing anyone trying to help with a computer problem wants
is the *exact* messages. You should also post the output of the
commands
/sbin/ifconfig
and
/sbin/route
before and after trying to connect.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I-Con's Science and Technology Programming
<http://www.iconsf.org/>
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From: Robert L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: download + install Linux
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 04:22:32 GMT
Robert L wrote:
> I want to install Mandrake on my Linux system. I have 2 system on
> internet, one with windows (9.6 Gig ) and one with Linux (5 Gig).
> I want to download the full Mandrake on my windows system, and install
> mdk using ftp.
> Here's 3 reason why i don't want to use known ftp server.
> 1) I'm using PPPoE for internet, the network image don't suported it.
> 2) Even if my connection is fast, it may not be very stable. ( from 20
> to 100 K/s )
> 3) I have a small fast Lan ( 2 computer using 100 mpbs ethernet card )
> and i can install it rapidly without download.
>
> Is it posible? ( my windwos is configures as 192.168.1.3 )
> Which file should i download? ( iso or the Mandrake directory )
>
> Thanks.
Hi,
I have try it and it's going to work.
I make the install looking to my windows box using ftp.
And it was easy.
Bye.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mark carroll)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Tape backup: tar versus dump
Date: 18 Jun 2000 04:35:32 GMT
Also be aware of cpio. (-:
-- Mark
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From: "Dr. Guillermo A. Morales" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Linux using up 256 Mb???
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 05:02:08 GMT
Grant,
Excellent explanation!!! It is very clear now ow to interpret those
values.
I tried the "free" command and there is 75588 bytes are actually used.
Is this OK? I'm running X (Gnome), Netscape and a terminal. I find hard
to believe that this will take about 74 Mb or RAM. Please correct me if
I'm wrong.
I also tried the command "top", as previously suggested, and I see that:
1) Under user there's guille, root and also nobody! How come is root
displayed if I'm only logged in as guille (my user account)?
2) According to "top" the SIZE of X is 47 Mb and ld-linux.so.2 is 36 Mb
! Is this right? Would this be because I also installed KDE?
By the way, sorry for posting 3 threads in one. I don't post very often
to newsgroups. So, to make sure that I would send the message to the
originally selected newsgroups I selected my own message, clicked on the
"reply" button, and simply changed the title of the message. I didn't
know/realize that it would still send the message as part of the
original thread.
Sorry for the mistake. It won't happen again.
I hope to hear from you soon.
Guillermo (email: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> In article <0tQ25.4101$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dr. Guillermo A. Morales
>wrote:
>
> >Hi, I just installed Red Hat 6.1 on my PC (Pentium III, 256 Mb of RAM).
>
> Good on ya!
>
> >I logged on, played with my new Linux system for a while, then
> >I typed the command "free" and I was told that Linux was using
> >almos all the available RAM and had used some memory from the
> >Swap file too!!!
>
> Sure it's using your RAM. That's what it's _there_ for. Tell
> you what: pull out all but 64M and mail it to me. That will
> keep your Linux system from using all that RAM. ;)
>
> >I think there's something going on here. Could anybody please
> >tell me why this is happening
>
> Linux will use all of the RAM available. Anything not used for
> programs will be used for disk cache and buffers. Processes
> that aren't active will get shoved out onto swap so that the
> RAM can be used for other things, like programs that _are_
> active and to cache files that are being used.
>
> >and how to fox it?
>
> It most probably doesn't need fixing.
>
> Look closely and the memory usage and see how much of it is
> being used for a disk cache and disk buffers:
>
> [root@localhost lib]# free
> total used free shared buffers cached
> Mem: 63008 61284 1724 18580 6176 41460
> -/+ buffers/cache: 13648 49360
> Swap: 136544 5008 131536
>
> OK, I've got 64M and 61M is used. That sounds bad since I'm
> not doing much, but look at the second line.
>
> 49M is used for disk cache and buffers, and only 13M is
> actually being used up by programs (mostly just X which is up
> to 9M at the moment).
>
> --
> Grant Edwards grante Yow! QUIET!! I'm being
> at CREATIVE!! Is it GREAT
> visi.com yet? It's s'posed to SMOKEY
> THE BEAR...
--
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Guillermo A. Morales
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: iMpU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: VMware under SuSE 6.1 Problem :-(
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 12:54:05 -0400
Hi,
Having the hardest time configuring VMware under SuSE 6.1 :(
Basically, during the installation of VMware (2.0), installer finds
that none of the module is compatible with running kernel and wants to
create it. Ask for Kernel header file directory.
/usr/src/linux/include, but then I can't go further. It doesn't except
any path. Anybody encountered this problem before?
Impu
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